Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Respected Iqbal ji, I am placed in Aligarh where this book is not available. You might have to contact some one from Delhi or another big city. Regards, Varun Trivedi , punjabilovebug wrote: > > Bhais, > > Where can I procure a copy of this book? Would you be willing to post it to me? > > Best Regards, > Iqbal > USA > > Sent via Blackberry > > > " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd > > Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:12:24 > > Lal Kitab Discussion Group Re: Shamshan ka pani / Kalsi ji > > > Dear Kulbir Bhai, > > Yes, I agree with you. I too have found the book as the best for > planets in the 6th,8th and 12th houses. > > With regards, > > Varun trivedi > > <% 40> @, " kulbirbains " > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > guruji . trik bhavno ki gatha is written by amrita pritam based > upon > > her experiences with acharaya shri Krishyan ashant. ashant ji also > > co-aothoured it but credit goes to amrita pritam for explaing in a > > lucid, simple and griping manner.it is indeed a marvellous book > > published by shilalekh delhi. it is as good as poetry of amrita > > pritam. i have not come across any book on lalkitab or astrology > > which can be compared with this book. > > this book surpasses pt. ashant's own book on 12 houses. > > kulbirbains > > > > <% 40> @, " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Kalsi ji, > > > > > > The query was as to why Pandit ji suggested establishing at home > > the > > > Shamshan ka pani for Mars and Saturn in the 8th house when > > apparently > > > there is no moon involved. > > > > > > Let me briefly summarize what Kulbir Bhai has said. > > > > > > The upaya is based on the Masnuyee resultant of these two planets > > in > > > the 8th house. > > > > > > Mars in the 8th is assumed as ashubh hence = Surya + shani > > > Shani in its pakka ghar assumed as ketu swabhav hence = Jup + > > Venus > > > > > > The resultant masnuyee planets formed from the above = > > > {Surya + Jup } and { Shani + venus} > > > > > > Surya + Jup = moon ; Shani + Venus = Ketu uchcha > > > > > > = moon and Ketu uchcha > > > > > > Since moon [ a resultant constituent ] will get scorched in the > > fire > > > of hell { 8th house } hence it has to be retrieved. Therefore > > Pandit > > > ji suggested that the water from a cremation ground be kept at > home > > > > > > As for the other planets in the 8th house I will advise that you > > > read a beautiful account of them in the book Trik bhavanon ki > > gatha > > > by Pt. Krishna Ashant. > > > > > > After reading the book if you have any queries, some of us will > be > > > very happy to answer them for you. > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40> @, " shivdev.kalsi " > > > <shivdev.kalsi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhooshan Ji, > > > > I am looking at the mosnoovi concept explained by Kulbir Ji for > > > > chander in 8th. He explained that > > > > 1. MA bad = Su + Sa > > > > 2. = Su + Br + Shukr > > > > 3. = Ch + Shukr. > > > > 4. now MA + SA = chandra + shukr + shani > > > > 5. = chandra + UCH ketu. > > > > Please see Sr. No 2 , he has not bifurcated sun and in Sr. No.4 > > > also > > > > not bifurcated Shani. Something seems to be missed in the above. > > > > Secondly, This justification is made for chander in 8th. I > > request > > > > you to spare your precious time for me to illustrate the > > equation > > > > for Venus in 8th, Mars Bad in 8th,Mercury in 8th, Rahu in 8th, > > ketu > > > > in 8th, saturn in 8th and Jupiter in 8th and of course Sun does > > not > > > > require any remedy there. > > > > I am a new to this system and want to understand this great > > concept > > > > of masnooyi invented by the few members of group and giving you > > > > trouble for the typing work. > > > > Your > > > > Shiv Dev Kalsi > > > > <% 40> @, > > > > " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir Bhai, > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right. In both the cases it is the Moon > > which > > > is > > > > > being retrieved from the darkness of the 8th house. In the > > first > > > > > case it is the moon as such in the 8th house where as in the > > case > > > > of > > > > > Mars+Saturn it is the Moon as a resultant of the Masnuyee > > break > > > up > > > > > of these two planets. > > > > > > > > > > It is for this reason that Pt. Rupchand ji advised to bring > > home > > > a > > > > > little shamshan ka pani. > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <% 40> @, " kulbirbains " > > > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohit ji, this could be a possible explanation but only if > > > varun > > > > > ji or > > > > > > lalkitabee ji agree with it as i am a beginner in this > > concept. > > > > > > MA bad = Su + Sa > > > > > > = Su + Br + Shukr > > > > > > = Ch + Shukr. > > > > > > now MA + SA = chandra + shukr + shani > > > > > > = chandra + UCH ketu. > > > > > > may be for this chandra formation in 8 the upaya of > shamshan > > ka > > > > > pani > > > > > > is prescribed. > > > > > > > > > > > > kulbir bainjs > > > > > > --- In > <%40> @, " sharma.rohit80 " > > > > > > <sharma.rohit80@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Lalkitab advises to keep at home the shamshan ka pani > > if > > > > > some > > > > > > one > > > > > > > has moon in the 8th house. One can understand that the > > moon > > > is > > > > > being > > > > > > > taken out of the 8th house through this remedy. > > > > > > > But the same remedy has also been suggested for Mars and > > > Saturn > > > > > > > together in the 8th house. Any clues why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohit Sharma > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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