Lal Kitab Discussion Group Request to Sh. Nirmal Bhardwaj

October 24, 2007

Respected Nirmal ji, i appreciate ur courtesy. lalkitabee ji will be free 26-10 onwards. shukla ji's life has always been full of struggle. he has come over the dificulties vailantly. The loss of his mother has left behind a void that i think he will be able to fill with the service of lalkitab. he regards lalkitab too as his mother and is dutybound to serve its cause. kulbirbainsNirmal Kumar Bhardwaj <nirbhar wrote: Dear Kulbir Ji,One of our friend is busy with the last rites of his mother. Let

him free for discussions. we will start later onRegardsNirmal kumar Bhardwaj , "kulbirbains" <kulbirbains wrote:>> Nirmal ji ; in a pervious message u made a request that u want to > discuss some topics again which have been discussed in the group in > the past. Since the sarani topic has been concluded i would requset > ur gudself to post ur querries regarding previous messages at ur > earliest so that they could be answered before we start a new topic.> thanx> kulbirbains> > , "varun_trvd" > <varun_trvd@> wrote:> >> > Respected Members,> > > > There has been a very thorough, objective

and highly technical > > discussion on the sarini. Five different members, Raheja ji, > Chandra > > prakash,shri Nimal Bhardwaj ji , Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji and myself > had > > examined the sarini and we found it inaccurate.> > > > At the end of the debate it is conclusively proved that the Lagna > > degrees acquired from this Sarini will not be accurate. Therefore > it > > should not be used as a Jyotish tool for births within India or > > abroad.> > > > Since we Lal Kitab astrologers do not live and operate in > isolation, > > we operate within a larger community of traditional Vedic > > astrologers, we have to use Jyotish tools which are universally > > accepted as precise and accurate. We can not set up our own > standards > > which are not on par with the rest of the community.> >

> > In spite of our findings if some one wants to continue using this > > sarini, he may do so. But we would request that he/she should not > > associate the name of Lal Kitab with this Sarini. We should not > let > > the impression go around that the Lal Kitab is archaic and > > compromises with quality of precision. > > > > The Lal Kitab is already maligned by some as a book of Tona and > > Totkas. All of us are making great efforts to get the Lal Kitab > > accepted as a very valuable astrology book in the tradition of > Vedic > > astrology and not in the tradition of any dark and secret occult > > system.> > > > Some of us have been very successful in our efforts to make > > traditional astrologers accept that the Lal Kitab is not a book of > > occult tantra, instaed it is a part of traditional Indian

> astrology > > and that is very effective.> > > > Recently when a few traditional Vedic astrology groups chose to > > discuss the Lal Kitab, some of us posed three simple challenges, > > which no body had any answers for. > > > > The first challenge was to find out the most active group > [messages > > per month ] of all the astrology groups. The > Lalkitab_remedies > > group of our guru ji Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji was in the top two > > groups. That shows how popular the Lal Kitab system is. No system > can > > be popular unless it is effective.> > > > The second challenge was : Can some one point out a single upaya > > suggested by Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji which could be called as > Tantrik > > or of occult. No body could find a single upaya of that nature. > Thus > > the

impression that the Lal Kitab is a book of Tona and Totkas was > > laid to rest.> > > > The third challenge was : go to all the groups, type the word > > FEEDBACK in the search and see which group gets the most positive > > feed back. There again the Lalkitab_remedies group had no > > comparison. The Lalkitab remedies group was far, far ahead of the > > rest.> > > > Therefore we would request the Lal Kitab astrologers to please, > not > > do any thing which could compromise the Lal Kitab.> > > > LET THE BOOK BE BIGGER THAN OUR EGOS> > > > Regards and respect to all,> > > > Varun Trivedi> >>Kulbir Bains

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