Gutka [ 1941, Lal Kitab ] dictionary part

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brahspat khanna no 8 page 47 line 13 VIRANE ME SONE KI KANE WH

DOONDH LEGA. this word kane is not there in dictionary part. i kept

guessing whether it could be khaan (mines) or kannne ( sticks of

sarkanda) untill somebody told me that khaan ( mines) are reffered

as kaan in persian/urdu.

please incorporte such words in the next edition of gutka.

kulbir bains

 

, " lalkitabee "

<lalkitabee wrote:

>

> Respected Prabhakar Ji

> Weldon, say my congrats & ashirwad to both junior prabhakars.It is

> really an appriciatable work.But i felt that its dictionary

portion

> may need more amendments, still this part of this book is very

best

> effort.Any how ,again im saying we have need of an URDU Expert

like u

> & u cant sit in rest after publishing this book & u have to be

aware

> making the sense of Urdu transletrated words from Gutka carefully

in

> future for the readers.

> With Regards

> Pt.Lalkitabee

> V.shukla

> www.lalkitabee.com

> Mb.9812020001

> , " Yograj Prabhakar "

> <yr_prabhakar@> wrote:

> >

> > Param Adarniye Dr. Suresh Chandra Upadhyaye jee,

> > Sa'adar Pranaam.

> >

> > First of all, I am feeling obliged and honored to receive such a

> great

> > response from a prominent personality like your good-self. This

> > inspirational appreciation for my work has certainly boost my

> morale to

> > do better in future. Sir, this work is the result of devotion

and

> hard

> > work of Shri Nirmal Bhardwaj jee and my younger son Rahul

Prabhakar,

> > kindly bless them too .

> >

> > A complete detail regarding price, discount and availability of

the

> book

> > can be found in Message no. 899 of this group.

> >

> > Respectfully

> > Yograj Prabhakar

> >

> >

> > , " "

> > <@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members,

> > >

> > > I have read the Hindi transliteration version of 1941 urdu

edition

> > > of the Lal Kitab by one of our group members Shri Yograj

> Prabhakar.

> > >

> > > It is an extremely well done transliteration. He has taken

great

> > > pains to retain the original page numbers and even the line

> numbers.

> > > This is a great job to preserve the original authenticity of

the

> > > book.

> > >

> > > It becomes all the more important and useful for people like

me

> who

> > > keep referring to the Urdu editions quite often. Earlier it

used

> to

> > > take me a considerable time to locate information in the Urdu

> > > edition { my Urdu reading is painfully slow}, with the help of

> > > Prabhakar ji's transliterated book I can locate the information

> > > within seconds. An exhaustive glossary of urdu, Persian and

> Punjabi

> > > words at the end is a great help.

> > >

> > > The 1952 edition of the Lal Kitab , the fifth and the last in

the

> > > series, can be understood better only if one has read the

> previous

> > > edition of 1942. Similarly the 1939 and the 1940 editions go in

> > > tandem.

> > >

> > > The 1941 { Gutka } is one such Lal Kitab book which is brief,

> > > concise and complete in itself. It will make sense even if you

> > > haven't read the other editions. Of all the five editions, I

find

> > > the 1941 { Gutka } as the easiest to understand. Most useful

also

> > > since it is so handy.

> > >

> > > Therefore, all those who want to learn Lal Kitab system,

should go

> > > through this book. I'd rather say that they start with this

book

> > > before graduating to the other editions.

> > >

> > > I would request Prabhakar ji to post in the group details as

where

> > > to get it from and for how much.

> > >

> > > God bless you

> > >

> > > Bhooshan Priya

> > >

> >

>

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Respected Kulbir Ji

 

Even im not so familiar with Gutka I use normally 42 & 52 editions ,

there also 52 edition ,but as per my little knowledge " KANE " is

mines. May be this wrong, so Mr. Yograj ji is best athourity for

doubts of Urdu language to explain it, either it used for the term

of MINEs or STICKS OF SARKANDA.

For the convenience of readers.I request Mr. Yograj Ji to clear this

doubt,

 

With regards

 

Pt. Lalkitabee

www.lalkitabee.com

Mb.9812020001

, " kulbirbains "

<kulbirbains wrote:

>

> brahspat khanna no 8 page 47 line 13 VIRANE ME SONE KI KANE WH

> DOONDH LEGA. this word kane is not there in dictionary part. i kept

> guessing whether it could be khaan (mines) or kannne ( sticks of

> sarkanda) untill somebody told me that khaan ( mines) are reffered

> as kaan in persian/urdu.

> please incorporte such words in the next edition of gutka.

> kulbir bains

>

> , " lalkitabee "

> <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Prabhakar Ji

> > Weldon, say my congrats & ashirwad to both junior prabhakars.It

is

> > really an appriciatable work.But i felt that its dictionary

> portion

> > may need more amendments, still this part of this book is very

> best

> > effort.Any how ,again im saying we have need of an URDU Expert

> like u

> > & u cant sit in rest after publishing this book & u have to be

> aware

> > making the sense of Urdu transletrated words from Gutka

carefully

> in

> > future for the readers.

> > With Regards

> > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > V.shukla

> > www.lalkitabee.com

> > Mb.9812020001

> > , " Yograj Prabhakar "

> > <yr_prabhakar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Param Adarniye Dr. Suresh Chandra Upadhyaye jee,

> > > Sa'adar Pranaam.

> > >

> > > First of all, I am feeling obliged and honored to receive such

a

> > great

> > > response from a prominent personality like your good-self. This

> > > inspirational appreciation for my work has certainly boost my

> > morale to

> > > do better in future. Sir, this work is the result of devotion

> and

> > hard

> > > work of Shri Nirmal Bhardwaj jee and my younger son Rahul

> Prabhakar,

> > > kindly bless them too .

> > >

> > > A complete detail regarding price, discount and availability of

> the

> > book

> > > can be found in Message no. 899 of this group.

> > >

> > > Respectfully

> > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > >

> > >

> > > , " "

> > > <@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members,

> > > >

> > > > I have read the Hindi transliteration version of 1941 urdu

> edition

> > > > of the Lal Kitab by one of our group members Shri Yograj

> > Prabhakar.

> > > >

> > > > It is an extremely well done transliteration. He has taken

> great

> > > > pains to retain the original page numbers and even the line

> > numbers.

> > > > This is a great job to preserve the original authenticity of

> the

> > > > book.

> > > >

> > > > It becomes all the more important and useful for people like

> me

> > who

> > > > keep referring to the Urdu editions quite often. Earlier it

> used

> > to

> > > > take me a considerable time to locate information in the Urdu

> > > > edition { my Urdu reading is painfully slow}, with the help of

> > > > Prabhakar ji's transliterated book I can locate the

information

> > > > within seconds. An exhaustive glossary of urdu, Persian and

> > Punjabi

> > > > words at the end is a great help.

> > > >

> > > > The 1952 edition of the Lal Kitab , the fifth and the last in

> the

> > > > series, can be understood better only if one has read the

> > previous

> > > > edition of 1942. Similarly the 1939 and the 1940 editions go

in

> > > > tandem.

> > > >

> > > > The 1941 { Gutka } is one such Lal Kitab book which is brief,

> > > > concise and complete in itself. It will make sense even if

you

> > > > haven't read the other editions. Of all the five editions, I

> find

> > > > the 1941 { Gutka } as the easiest to understand. Most useful

> also

> > > > since it is so handy.

> > > >

> > > > Therefore, all those who want to learn Lal Kitab system,

> should go

> > > > through this book. I'd rather say that they start with this

> book

> > > > before graduating to the other editions.

> > > >

> > > > I would request Prabhakar ji to post in the group details as

> where

> > > > to get it from and for how much.

> > > >

> > > > God bless you

> > > >

> > > > Bhooshan Priya

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Respected Lalkitabee ji,

 

Why bother shri Yograj ji for this small clarification?

 

The word 'kaanen' used on page 47 line # 13 is a plural form of the

word 'kaan' which in Urdu is used for 'mines' or 'khaan' in hindi.

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " lalkitabee "

<lalkitabee wrote:

>

> Respected Kulbir Ji

>

> Even im not so familiar with Gutka I use normally 42 & 52

editions ,

> there also 52 edition ,but as per my little knowledge " KANE " is

> mines. May be this wrong, so Mr. Yograj ji is best athourity for

> doubts of Urdu language to explain it, either it used for the term

> of MINEs or STICKS OF SARKANDA.

> For the convenience of readers.I request Mr. Yograj Ji to clear

this

> doubt,

>

> With regards

>

> Pt. Lalkitabee

> www.lalkitabee.com

> Mb.9812020001

> , " kulbirbains "

> <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> >

> > brahspat khanna no 8 page 47 line 13 VIRANE ME SONE KI KANE WH

> > DOONDH LEGA. this word kane is not there in dictionary part. i

kept

> > guessing whether it could be khaan (mines) or kannne ( sticks of

> > sarkanda) untill somebody told me that khaan ( mines) are

reffered

> > as kaan in persian/urdu.

> > please incorporte such words in the next edition of gutka.

> > kulbir bains

> >

> > , " lalkitabee "

> > <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Prabhakar Ji

> > > Weldon, say my congrats & ashirwad to both junior prabhakars.It

> is

> > > really an appriciatable work.But i felt that its dictionary

> > portion

> > > may need more amendments, still this part of this book is very

> > best

> > > effort.Any how ,again im saying we have need of an URDU Expert

> > like u

> > > & u cant sit in rest after publishing this book & u have to be

> > aware

> > > making the sense of Urdu transletrated words from Gutka

> carefully

> > in

> > > future for the readers.

> > > With Regards

> > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > > V.shukla

> > > www.lalkitabee.com

> > > Mb.9812020001

> > > , " Yograj Prabhakar "

> > > <yr_prabhakar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Param Adarniye Dr. Suresh Chandra Upadhyaye jee,

> > > > Sa'adar Pranaam.

> > > >

> > > > First of all, I am feeling obliged and honored to receive

such

> a

> > > great

> > > > response from a prominent personality like your good-self.

This

> > > > inspirational appreciation for my work has certainly boost my

> > > morale to

> > > > do better in future. Sir, this work is the result of devotion

> > and

> > > hard

> > > > work of Shri Nirmal Bhardwaj jee and my younger son Rahul

> > Prabhakar,

> > > > kindly bless them too .

> > > >

> > > > A complete detail regarding price, discount and availability

of

> > the

> > > book

> > > > can be found in Message no. 899 of this group.

> > > >

> > > > Respectfully

> > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, " "

> > > > <@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have read the Hindi transliteration version of 1941 urdu

> > edition

> > > > > of the Lal Kitab by one of our group members Shri Yograj

> > > Prabhakar.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is an extremely well done transliteration. He has taken

> > great

> > > > > pains to retain the original page numbers and even the line

> > > numbers.

> > > > > This is a great job to preserve the original authenticity

of

> > the

> > > > > book.

> > > > >

> > > > > It becomes all the more important and useful for people

like

> > me

> > > who

> > > > > keep referring to the Urdu editions quite often. Earlier it

> > used

> > > to

> > > > > take me a considerable time to locate information in the

Urdu

> > > > > edition { my Urdu reading is painfully slow}, with the

help of

> > > > > Prabhakar ji's transliterated book I can locate the

> information

> > > > > within seconds. An exhaustive glossary of urdu, Persian and

> > > Punjabi

> > > > > words at the end is a great help.

> > > > >

> > > > > The 1952 edition of the Lal Kitab , the fifth and the last

in

> > the

> > > > > series, can be understood better only if one has read the

> > > previous

> > > > > edition of 1942. Similarly the 1939 and the 1940 editions

go

> in

> > > > > tandem.

> > > > >

> > > > > The 1941 { Gutka } is one such Lal Kitab book which is

brief,

> > > > > concise and complete in itself. It will make sense even if

> you

> > > > > haven't read the other editions. Of all the five editions,

I

> > find

> > > > > the 1941 { Gutka } as the easiest to understand. Most

useful

> > also

> > > > > since it is so handy.

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore, all those who want to learn Lal Kitab system,

> > should go

> > > > > through this book. I'd rather say that they start with this

> > book

> > > > > before graduating to the other editions.

> > > > >

> > > > > I would request Prabhakar ji to post in the group details

as

> > where

> > > > > to get it from and for how much.

> > > > >

> > > > > God bless you

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhooshan Priya

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Kulbir bains, This word is Sonay ki kaanay mean The Gold Mines. kaanay mean Mines not sticks. Regardskulbirbains <kulbirbains wrote: brahspat khanna no 8 page 47 line 13 VIRANE ME SONE KI KANE WH DOONDH LEGA. this word kane is not there in dictionary part. i kept guessing whether it could be khaan (mines) or kannne ( sticks of sarkanda) untill somebody told me that khaan ( mines) are reffered as kaan in

persian/urdu.please incorporte such words in the next edition of gutka.kulbir bains , "lalkitabee" <lalkitabee wrote:>> Respected Prabhakar Ji> Weldon, say my congrats & ashirwad to both junior prabhakars.It is > really an appriciatable work.But i felt that its dictionary portion > may need more amendments, still this part of this book is very best > effort.Any how ,again im saying we have need of an URDU Expert like u > & u cant sit in rest after publishing this book & u have to be aware > making the sense of Urdu transletrated words from Gutka carefully in > future for the readers.> With Regards> Pt.Lalkitabee> V.shukla> www.lalkitabee.com> Mb.9812020001> , "Yograj Prabhakar" > <yr_prabhakar@> wrote:> >> > Param Adarniye Dr. Suresh Chandra Upadhyaye jee,> > Sa'adar Pranaam.> > > > First of all, I am feeling obliged and honored to receive such a > great > > response from a prominent personality like your good-self. This> > inspirational appreciation for my work has certainly boost my > morale to> > do better in future. Sir, this work is the result of devotion and > hard> > work of Shri Nirmal Bhardwaj jee and my younger son Rahul Prabhakar,> > kindly bless them too .> > > > A complete detail regarding price, discount and availability of the > book> > can be found in Message no. 899 of this group.> > > >

Respectfully> > Yograj Prabhakar> > > > > > , ""> > <@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear members,> > >> > > I have read the Hindi transliteration version of 1941 urdu edition> > > of the Lal Kitab by one of our group members Shri Yograj > Prabhakar.> > >> > > It is an extremely well done transliteration. He has taken great> > > pains to retain the original page numbers and even the line > numbers.> > > This is a great job to preserve the original authenticity of the> > > book.> > >> > > It becomes all the more important and useful for people like me > who> > > keep referring to the

Urdu editions quite often. Earlier it used > to> > > take me a considerable time to locate information in the Urdu> > > edition { my Urdu reading is painfully slow}, with the help of> > > Prabhakar ji's transliterated book I can locate the information> > > within seconds. An exhaustive glossary of urdu, Persian and > Punjabi> > > words at the end is a great help.> > >> > > The 1952 edition of the Lal Kitab , the fifth and the last in the> > > series, can be understood better only if one has read the > previous> > > edition of 1942. Similarly the 1939 and the 1940 editions go in> > > tandem.> > >> > > The 1941 { Gutka } is one such Lal Kitab book which is brief,> > > concise and complete in itself. It will make sense even if you> > > haven't read the other editions.

Of all the five editions, I find> > > the 1941 { Gutka } as the easiest to understand. Most useful also> > > since it is so handy.> > >> > > Therefore, all those who want to learn Lal Kitab system, should go> > > through this book. I'd rather say that they start with this book> > > before graduating to the other editions.> > >> > > I would request Prabhakar ji to post in the group details as where> > > to get it from and for how much.> > >> > > God bless you> > >> > > Bhooshan Priya> > >> >>

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Respectable Kulbeer ji,

 

It is hard to believe that a scholar of your stature who is a blue eye

kid of Shri Prabhakar ji is confused over a simple word. Kitab mein

laikha hai " soney kee kaaney " haan agar " soney key kaaney " likha hota

tab to doubt ya confusion ki gunjayash thi. Agar ye word kaaney yani

ki sarkanda hota to iske pehle " kee " shabad nahi lagta. Aur badi

simple si common sense ki baat hai ki sarkande to kabhi soney ke ho

bhi nahi sakte. Lekin agar yeh sirf " Roti Khande vele terian muchhan

kyon hilldian han ? " wali kawayad hai, tab to baat hi aur hai.

 

Lalkitabee ji, ap jaisa vidvan jisne 1942 aur 1952 ko padha hai wo bhi

is shabad par confuse ho gaya? 1942 ki kitab mein Jupiter 8 mein bhi

to same yahi word use huye hain, wahan par apne iska kya meaning liya

tha? Varun ji has rightly said that we should not bother Prabhakar ji

for these petty clarifications, in my humble opimnion we should

rather follow the example of the fatherly figure of this group Prof

upadhyaya jee and try to feel the positive vibes of Prabhakar jee's

book, by the way, I am also enjoying the divine energy of his great

work.

 

with regards

Surinder Sood

 

, Dawar <milestone_3 wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir bains,

>

> This word is Sonay ki kaanay mean The Gold Mines. kaanay mean

Mines not sticks.

>

> Regards

>

> kulbirbains <kulbirbains wrote:

> brahspat khanna no 8 page 47 line 13 VIRANE ME SONE KI

KANE WH

> DOONDH LEGA. this word kane is not there in dictionary part. i kept

> guessing whether it could be khaan (mines) or kannne ( sticks of

> sarkanda) untill somebody told me that khaan ( mines) are reffered

> as kaan in persian/urdu.

> please incorporte such words in the next edition of gutka.

> kulbir bains

>

> , " lalkitabee "

> <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Prabhakar Ji

> > Weldon, say my congrats & ashirwad to both junior prabhakars.It is

> > really an appriciatable work.But i felt that its dictionary

> portion

> > may need more amendments, still this part of this book is very

> best

> > effort.Any how ,again im saying we have need of an URDU Expert

> like u

> > & u cant sit in rest after publishing this book & u have to be

> aware

> > making the sense of Urdu transletrated words from Gutka carefully

> in

> > future for the readers.

> > With Regards

> > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > V.shukla

> > www.lalkitabee.com

> > Mb.9812020001

> > , " Yograj Prabhakar "

> > <yr_prabhakar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Param Adarniye Dr. Suresh Chandra Upadhyaye jee,

> > > Sa'adar Pranaam.

> > >

> > > First of all, I am feeling obliged and honored to receive such a

> > great

> > > response from a prominent personality like your good-self. This

> > > inspirational appreciation for my work has certainly boost my

> > morale to

> > > do better in future. Sir, this work is the result of devotion

> and

> > hard

> > > work of Shri Nirmal Bhardwaj jee and my younger son Rahul

> Prabhakar,

> > > kindly bless them too .

> > >

> > > A complete detail regarding price, discount and availability of

> the

> > book

> > > can be found in Message no. 899 of this group.

> > >

> > > Respectfully

> > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > >

> > >

> > > , " "

> > > <@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members,

> > > >

> > > > I have read the Hindi transliteration version of 1941 urdu

> edition

> > > > of the Lal Kitab by one of our group members Shri Yograj

> > Prabhakar.

> > > >

> > > > It is an extremely well done transliteration. He has taken

> great

> > > > pains to retain the original page numbers and even the line

> > numbers.

> > > > This is a great job to preserve the original authenticity of

> the

> > > > book.

> > > >

> > > > It becomes all the more important and useful for people like

> me

> > who

> > > > keep referring to the Urdu editions quite often. Earlier it

> used

> > to

> > > > take me a considerable time to locate information in the Urdu

> > > > edition { my Urdu reading is painfully slow}, with the help of

> > > > Prabhakar ji's transliterated book I can locate the information

> > > > within seconds. An exhaustive glossary of urdu, Persian and

> > Punjabi

> > > > words at the end is a great help.

> > > >

> > > > The 1952 edition of the Lal Kitab , the fifth and the last in

> the

> > > > series, can be understood better only if one has read the

> > previous

> > > > edition of 1942. Similarly the 1939 and the 1940 editions go in

> > > > tandem.

> > > >

> > > > The 1941 { Gutka } is one such Lal Kitab book which is brief,

> > > > concise and complete in itself. It will make sense even if you

> > > > haven't read the other editions. Of all the five editions, I

> find

> > > > the 1941 { Gutka } as the easiest to understand. Most useful

> also

> > > > since it is so handy.

> > > >

> > > > Therefore, all those who want to learn Lal Kitab system,

> should go

> > > > through this book. I'd rather say that they start with this

> book

> > > > before graduating to the other editions.

> > > >

> > > > I would request Prabhakar ji to post in the group details as

> where

> > > > to get it from and for how much.

> > > >

> > > > God bless you

> > > >

> > > > Bhooshan Priya

> > > >

> > >

> >

 

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Respected Mr. Sood

Read my words in previous mail carefully, where already I cleared my

terms about meaning reagrding this word " KAANE " .I cleared that i used

this words in the terms of mines. As per botheration

of Prabhakar Ji, He is an athourity of urdu language in our group. I

believe that sometimes experts also may be confused about some Urdu

Words & may misinterpretept like ANDHON & BACHCHON. Though I blelieve

that Mr. Prabhakar is a best way to confirm the terms of any Urdu

word .Anyone can be confused at any word & the best way is

discussion.It can be raised by Kulbir Ji or me.Knowledge has no

limit. Confusing Urdu word may be in Lalkitab or any Nazm or Bazm, I

have only reliable source to clarify & that is Mr. Prabhakar. & im

sure that he will not take it as botheration at all.If he feels any

botheration can excuse himself & we will never bother him. & a request

With regards

Pt.Lalkitabee

 

, " Surinder Sood "

<s3_sood wrote:

>

> Respectable Kulbeer ji,

>

> It is hard to believe that a scholar of your stature who is a blue

eye

> kid of Shri Prabhakar ji is confused over a simple word. Kitab mein

> laikha hai " soney kee kaaney " haan agar " soney key kaaney " likha

hota

> tab to doubt ya confusion ki gunjayash thi. Agar ye word kaaney yani

> ki sarkanda hota to iske pehle " kee " shabad nahi lagta. Aur badi

> simple si common sense ki baat hai ki sarkande to kabhi soney ke ho

> bhi nahi sakte. Lekin agar yeh sirf " Roti Khande vele terian muchhan

> kyon hilldian han ? " wali kawayad hai, tab to baat hi aur hai.

>

> Lalkitabee ji, ap jaisa vidvan jisne 1942 aur 1952 ko padha hai wo

bhi

> is shabad par confuse ho gaya? 1942 ki kitab mein Jupiter 8 mein bhi

> to same yahi word use huye hain, wahan par apne iska kya meaning

liya

> tha? Varun ji has rightly said that we should not bother Prabhakar

ji

> for these petty clarifications, in my humble opimnion we should

> rather follow the example of the fatherly figure of this group Prof

> upadhyaya jee and try to feel the positive vibes of Prabhakar jee's

> book, by the way, I am also enjoying the divine energy of his great

> work.

>

> with regards

> Surinder Sood

>

> , Dawar <milestone_3@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir bains,

> >

> > This word is Sonay ki kaanay mean The Gold Mines. kaanay mean

> Mines not sticks.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > kulbirbains <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > brahspat khanna no 8 page 47 line 13 VIRANE ME SONE KI

> KANE WH

> > DOONDH LEGA. this word kane is not there in dictionary part. i

kept

> > guessing whether it could be khaan (mines) or kannne ( sticks of

> > sarkanda) untill somebody told me that khaan ( mines) are

reffered

> > as kaan in persian/urdu.

> > please incorporte such words in the next edition of gutka.

> > kulbir bains

> >

> > , " lalkitabee "

> > <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Prabhakar Ji

> > > Weldon, say my congrats & ashirwad to both junior prabhakars.It

is

> > > really an appriciatable work.But i felt that its dictionary

> > portion

> > > may need more amendments, still this part of this book is very

> > best

> > > effort.Any how ,again im saying we have need of an URDU Expert

> > like u

> > > & u cant sit in rest after publishing this book & u have to be

> > aware

> > > making the sense of Urdu transletrated words from Gutka

carefully

> > in

> > > future for the readers.

> > > With Regards

> > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > > V.shukla

> > > www.lalkitabee.com

> > > Mb.9812020001

> > > , " Yograj Prabhakar "

> > > <yr_prabhakar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Param Adarniye Dr. Suresh Chandra Upadhyaye jee,

> > > > Sa'adar Pranaam.

> > > >

> > > > First of all, I am feeling obliged and honored to receive

such a

> > > great

> > > > response from a prominent personality like your good-self.

This

> > > > inspirational appreciation for my work has certainly boost my

> > > morale to

> > > > do better in future. Sir, this work is the result of devotion

> > and

> > > hard

> > > > work of Shri Nirmal Bhardwaj jee and my younger son Rahul

> > Prabhakar,

> > > > kindly bless them too .

> > > >

> > > > A complete detail regarding price, discount and availability

of

> > the

> > > book

> > > > can be found in Message no. 899 of this group.

> > > >

> > > > Respectfully

> > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " "

> > > > <@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have read the Hindi transliteration version of 1941 urdu

> > edition

> > > > > of the Lal Kitab by one of our group members Shri Yograj

> > > Prabhakar.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is an extremely well done transliteration. He has taken

> > great

> > > > > pains to retain the original page numbers and even the line

> > > numbers.

> > > > > This is a great job to preserve the original authenticity

of

> > the

> > > > > book.

> > > > >

> > > > > It becomes all the more important and useful for people

like

> > me

> > > who

> > > > > keep referring to the Urdu editions quite often. Earlier it

> > used

> > > to

> > > > > take me a considerable time to locate information in the

Urdu

> > > > > edition { my Urdu reading is painfully slow}, with the help

of

> > > > > Prabhakar ji's transliterated book I can locate the

information

> > > > > within seconds. An exhaustive glossary of urdu, Persian and

> > > Punjabi

> > > > > words at the end is a great help.

> > > > >

> > > > > The 1952 edition of the Lal Kitab , the fifth and the last

in

> > the

> > > > > series, can be understood better only if one has read the

> > > previous

> > > > > edition of 1942. Similarly the 1939 and the 1940 editions

go in

> > > > > tandem.

> > > > >

> > > > > The 1941 { Gutka } is one such Lal Kitab book which is

brief,

> > > > > concise and complete in itself. It will make sense even if

you

> > > > > haven't read the other editions. Of all the five editions,

I

> > find

> > > > > the 1941 { Gutka } as the easiest to understand. Most

useful

> > also

> > > > > since it is so handy.

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore, all those who want to learn Lal Kitab system,

> > should go

> > > > > through this book. I'd rather say that they start with this

> > book

> > > > > before graduating to the other editions.

> > > > >

> > > > > I would request Prabhakar ji to post in the group details

as

> > where

> > > > > to get it from and for how much.

> > > > >

> > > > > God bless you

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhooshan Priya

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's

> user panel and lay it on us.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

respected Sood sahib; perhaps u have not read this transliteration

otherwise u wouldn't have replied my querry by the logic of matra

i.e. " soney kee kaaney " haan agar " soney key kaaney " .

the same page on which this line appears has GARU in line no.3. so

when the whole matra has been missing it would be inappropriate to

jump on conclusion on its basis alone.

 

for the uninitiated this could be GURU and GERU has well.

perhaps u have also not read the forwarding message by the

authour/publisher where readers have been requested to send in the

words for dictionary part at the end. i was just following that.

 

secondly prabhakar ji is also a human and while mixing ANDHEY & BACHCHEY in

translation ' kalliyan muchhan hi nahin, sabh kuch hi hil gaya si' and if not

clarified by lalkitabee ji; it would have been followed by many of the members.

 

this group is for discussion and members are welcome to put on their

ideas but please do some labour before posting them.at least read

the page i.e not more than 15 lines under observation.

thanx

kulbir bains

 

, " Surinder Sood "

<s3_sood wrote:

>

> Respectable Kulbeer ji,

>

> It is hard to believe that a scholar of your stature who is a blue

eye

> kid of Shri Prabhakar ji is confused over a simple word. Kitab

mein

> laikha hai " soney kee kaaney " haan agar " soney key kaaney " likha

hota

> tab to doubt ya confusion ki gunjayash thi. Agar ye word kaaney

yani

> ki sarkanda hota to iske pehle " kee " shabad nahi lagta. Aur badi

> simple si common sense ki baat hai ki sarkande to kabhi soney ke ho

> bhi nahi sakte. Lekin agar yeh sirf " Roti Khande vele terian

muchhan

> kyon hilldian han ? " wali kawayad hai, tab to baat hi aur hai.

>

> Lalkitabee ji, ap jaisa vidvan jisne 1942 aur 1952 ko padha hai wo

bhi

> is shabad par confuse ho gaya? 1942 ki kitab mein Jupiter 8 mein

bhi

> to same yahi word use huye hain, wahan par apne iska kya meaning

liya

> tha? Varun ji has rightly said that we should not bother Prabhakar

ji

> for these petty clarifications, in my humble opimnion we should

> rather follow the example of the fatherly figure of this group Prof

> upadhyaya jee and try to feel the positive vibes of Prabhakar jee's

> book, by the way, I am also enjoying the divine energy of his

great

> work.

>

> with regards

> Surinder Sood

>

> , Dawar <milestone_3@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir bains,

> >

> > This word is Sonay ki kaanay mean The Gold Mines. kaanay mean

> Mines not sticks.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > kulbirbains <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > brahspat khanna no 8 page 47 line 13 VIRANE ME SONE KI

> KANE WH

> > DOONDH LEGA. this word kane is not there in dictionary part. i

kept

> > guessing whether it could be khaan (mines) or kannne ( sticks of

> > sarkanda) untill somebody told me that khaan ( mines) are

reffered

> > as kaan in persian/urdu.

> > please incorporte such words in the next edition of gutka.

> > kulbir bains

> >

> > , " lalkitabee "

> > <lalkitabee@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Prabhakar Ji

> > > Weldon, say my congrats & ashirwad to both junior

prabhakars.It is

> > > really an appriciatable work.But i felt that its dictionary

> > portion

> > > may need more amendments, still this part of this book is very

> > best

> > > effort.Any how ,again im saying we have need of an URDU Expert

> > like u

> > > & u cant sit in rest after publishing this book & u have to be

> > aware

> > > making the sense of Urdu transletrated words from Gutka

carefully

> > in

> > > future for the readers.

> > > With Regards

> > > Pt.Lalkitabee

> > > V.shukla

> > > www.lalkitabee.com

> > > Mb.9812020001

> > > , " Yograj Prabhakar "

> > > <yr_prabhakar@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Param Adarniye Dr. Suresh Chandra Upadhyaye jee,

> > > > Sa'adar Pranaam.

> > > >

> > > > First of all, I am feeling obliged and honored to receive

such a

> > > great

> > > > response from a prominent personality like your good-self.

This

> > > > inspirational appreciation for my work has certainly boost

my

> > > morale to

> > > > do better in future. Sir, this work is the result of

devotion

> > and

> > > hard

> > > > work of Shri Nirmal Bhardwaj jee and my younger son Rahul

> > Prabhakar,

> > > > kindly bless them too .

> > > >

> > > > A complete detail regarding price, discount and availability

of

> > the

> > > book

> > > > can be found in Message no. 899 of this group.

> > > >

> > > > Respectfully

> > > > Yograj Prabhakar

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In

, " "

> > > > <@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have read the Hindi transliteration version of 1941 urdu

> > edition

> > > > > of the Lal Kitab by one of our group members Shri Yograj

> > > Prabhakar.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is an extremely well done transliteration. He has taken

> > great

> > > > > pains to retain the original page numbers and even the

line

> > > numbers.

> > > > > This is a great job to preserve the original authenticity

of

> > the

> > > > > book.

> > > > >

> > > > > It becomes all the more important and useful for people

like

> > me

> > > who

> > > > > keep referring to the Urdu editions quite often. Earlier

it

> > used

> > > to

> > > > > take me a considerable time to locate information in the

Urdu

> > > > > edition { my Urdu reading is painfully slow}, with the

help of

> > > > > Prabhakar ji's transliterated book I can locate the

information

> > > > > within seconds. An exhaustive glossary of urdu, Persian

and

> > > Punjabi

> > > > > words at the end is a great help.

> > > > >

> > > > > The 1952 edition of the Lal Kitab , the fifth and the last

in

> > the

> > > > > series, can be understood better only if one has read the

> > > previous

> > > > > edition of 1942. Similarly the 1939 and the 1940 editions

go in

> > > > > tandem.

> > > > >

> > > > > The 1941 { Gutka } is one such Lal Kitab book which is

brief,

> > > > > concise and complete in itself. It will make sense even if

you

> > > > > haven't read the other editions. Of all the five editions,

I

> > find

> > > > > the 1941 { Gutka } as the easiest to understand. Most

useful

> > also

> > > > > since it is so handy.

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore, all those who want to learn Lal Kitab system,

> > should go

> > > > > through this book. I'd rather say that they start with

this

> > book

> > > > > before graduating to the other editions.

> > > > >

> > > > > I would request Prabhakar ji to post in the group details

as

> > where

> > > > > to get it from and for how much.

> > > > >

> > > > > God bless you

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhooshan Priya

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's

> user panel and lay it on us.

> >

>