Guest guest Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Respected Varun Ji Very very beautiful & themetic write-up by u. Im adding some more in this thread,I think u will not mind. sanichchar + rahu wil be analyzed with the mark of Padm or Lehsun.It is clear. But varun ji , as u qouted maut fanda ghar athve hota, nag zamana tarata/ marta ho. [ page 898 urdu ed 52 } In this defination u missed some part (plz pardon me ,i cant stop me due to my GURU KRIPA) We have to take full defination.This is a unique part in this chapter. So im quoting again full BHARI KABEELA PEHLEY GINTEY, SHAHI DAULAT JAR PAATA HO ICHCHHA-DHARI 2 ,12 LETEY, NAAG ZAMANA TAARTAA HO MAUT FANDAA GHAR AATHVAIN HOTEY ----------------------- MARTAA --- Iska matalab lalkitab main saaf saaf likha hai ki agar khana no-2 (right side of kundali) main shani rahu hon to left hand par sheshnaag ka nishaan sanichchar ko ichchha-dhari saanp ke rooop main jahira karega matlab mubarik hoga. Yahaan par gaur karne wali baat hai ki khana no 1 se 6 tak pehli ya right side hai ,aur usmain bhi khana no 2 main shani rahu hone par khana no 12 ki taraf yaani left hand par saanp ka nishan hee faladesh ke faisle main madadgaar hoga .Is jagah mere mutabik Pujya Pandit ji ne jism par kisi bhi nishan ke hone na hone ki shart ko darkinar kar diya hai. Theek iske ualat jab sanichchar rahu no. 12 main hon to saanp ka nishan right hand par hoga aur shayad padm ya lehsun ke nishan ki shart ko yahaan bhi darkinar kiya ja saktaa hai ya insaan ke shareer par uski maujoodgi ke mutabik faislaa lene main madad bhi lee ja sakti hai. Khas baat yah hai ki khana no 8,2,12 ke liye pujya pandit ji ne ek khaas tafseel likh daali hai jo mujhe samajh aayee vah maine likh dee hai. Is maamle main hum Sanya ji ke relative ke horoscope ki aur uske haath ki image ki madad le saktey hain. Usse faisla mukammal ho saktaa hai agar usmain khana no 2 ya 12 main shani aur rahu hon to. Lehsun ke nishan ke liye Pujya Pandit Ji ne ek baat aur likhi hai ki Lehsun ka nishan agar nabhi (NAVAL) se neeche hoga to uska faladesh ya durusti ka faisla juda hoga agar ooper hogaa to uskaa juda hogaa. With regards Pt.Lalkitabee , sanya mehra <sanyamehra_80 wrote: > > Hello > > Its very interesting wht you mentioned for saturn rahu combination as I have seen this combination in one of my relatives chart and its very true what you said. He literally went through hell like time during those years. > > What about people who have jupiter rahu saturn in 8th? > or may be some other planet combined with saturn and rahu in 8th. > Would the effect remain the same? > > Yours sincerely > Sanya > > > > Varun Trivedi <varun_trvd wrote: > Respected Inderjeet ji, > > A very tricky question. > > bhag umra {36-39} tak apni manda, ichhadhari phir hota ho > > Till the age of 36 -39 it will be generally manda and then will bloom into good times > > And now comes the intriguing part > > Saturn and Rahu in the 8th is an interesting proposition. There are two > > contradictory statements in the Book about this combination. > > [ a ] ghar panch ta aathve baitha raja shahon ka banata ho [ page 897 urdu > > ed 52] > > If this combination occurs from the 5th house to the 8th house, he will have > > wealth, > > prosperity and fame. > > Later in the kana vaar description : > > [ b ] maut fanda ghar athve hota, nag zamana tarata/ marta ho. [ page 898 > > urdu ed 52 } > > { this line is missing in Arun sanhita.} > > > If this combination occurs in the 8th house then it will give mrityu tulya > > kashta { misery like hell } between 36th and 39th year or could make one > > flourish. > > Now how to reconcile these two contradictory statements? > > Entirely my personal interpretation and there is no authority I could > > quote from. > > These two results will depend on the existence of a Lahsun or a Padma on the person of the Jatak. > > Padma is a birth mark which can be hidden under the thumb, while a Lahsun is bigger which can not be hidden under the thumb. Lahsun is described as indicator of grahan > > If a person has a padma mark on the right side of his body which stays hidden { posheeda} then the first statement will come true i.e. he will have wealth, prosperity and fame > > If he has a Lahsun on the right side of his body then the second statement will come true i.e. he will have to go through misery of hell during the naag zamaana { 36th to 39th} > > If the Lahsun is on the left, it will give faqeeri also. > The padma on the left will be non-effective. > > If there is neither a padma mark nor a lahsun mark, in that case either of the statement can come true or could have a mixed result i.e. he could be wealthy and renowned and might go through hell between the ages of 36 and 39. > > Regards, > > If there is neither a padma mark nor a lahsun mark, in that case either of the statement can come true or could have a mixed result i.e. he could be wealthy and renowned and might go through hell between the ages of 36 and 39. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > Once upon a time there was 1 GB storage in your inbox. 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Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Respected Pt. Lalkitabee ji, As usual you end up being miles ahead of us. With respect and regards, Chandra Prakash , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee wrote: > > Respected Varun Ji > Very very beautiful & themetic write-up by u. Im adding some more in > this thread,I think u will not mind. > sanichchar + rahu wil be analyzed with the mark of Padm or Lehsun.It > is clear. But varun ji , as u qouted > maut fanda ghar athve hota, nag zamana tarata/ marta ho. [ page 898 > urdu ed 52 } > In this defination u missed some part (plz pardon me ,i cant stop me > due to my GURU KRIPA) > We have to take full defination.This is a unique part in this chapter. > So im quoting again full > BHARI KABEELA PEHLEY GINTEY, SHAHI DAULAT JAR PAATA HO > ICHCHHA-DHARI 2 ,12 LETEY, NAAG ZAMANA TAARTAA HO > MAUT FANDAA GHAR AATHVAIN HOTEY ----------------------- MARTAA -- - > Iska matalab lalkitab main saaf saaf likha hai ki agar khana no-2 > (right side of kundali) main shani rahu hon to left hand par > > sheshnaag ka nishaan sanichchar ko ichchha-dhari saanp ke rooop main > jahira karega matlab mubarik hoga. Yahaan par gaur > > karne wali baat hai ki khana no 1 se 6 tak pehli ya right side > hai ,aur usmain bhi khana no 2 main shani rahu hone par khana > > no 12 ki taraf yaani left hand par saanp ka nishan hee faladesh ke > faisle main madadgaar hoga .Is jagah mere mutabik Pujya > > Pandit ji ne jism par kisi bhi nishan ke hone na hone ki shart ko > darkinar kar diya hai. Theek iske ualat jab sanichchar rahu no. > > 12 main hon to saanp ka nishan right hand par hoga aur shayad padm > ya lehsun ke nishan ki shart ko yahaan bhi darkinar > > kiya ja saktaa hai ya insaan ke shareer par uski maujoodgi ke > mutabik faislaa lene main madad bhi lee ja sakti hai. > Khas baat yah hai ki khana no 8,2,12 ke liye pujya > pandit ji ne ek khaas tafseel likh daali hai jo mujhe samajh > > aayee vah maine likh dee hai. Is maamle main hum Sanya ji ke > relative ke horoscope ki aur uske haath ki image ki madad le > > saktey hain. Usse faisla mukammal ho saktaa hai agar usmain khana no > 2 ya 12 main shani aur rahu hon to. > Lehsun ke nishan ke liye Pujya Pandit Ji ne ek baat aur > likhi hai ki Lehsun ka nishan agar nabhi (NAVAL) se neeche hoga to > uska faladesh ya durusti ka faisla juda hoga agar ooper hogaa to > uskaa juda hogaa. > With regards > Pt.Lalkitabee > > > > , sanya mehra > <sanyamehra_80@> wrote: > > > > Hello > > > > Its very interesting wht you mentioned for saturn rahu > combination as I have seen this combination in one of my relatives > chart and its very true what you said. He literally went through > hell like time during those years. > > > > What about people who have jupiter rahu saturn in 8th? > > or may be some other planet combined with saturn and rahu in 8th. > > Would the effect remain the same? > > > > Yours sincerely > > Sanya > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > Respected Inderjeet ji, > > > > A very tricky question. > > > > bhag umra {36-39} tak apni manda, ichhadhari phir hota ho > > > > Till the age of 36 -39 it will be generally manda and then will > bloom into good times > > > > And now comes the intriguing part > > > > Saturn and Rahu in the 8th is an interesting proposition. There > are two > > > > contradictory statements in the Book about this combination. > > > > [ a ] ghar panch ta aathve baitha raja shahon ka banata ho [ > page 897 urdu > > > > ed 52] > > > > If this combination occurs from the 5th house to the 8th house, > he will have > > > > wealth, > > > > prosperity and fame. > > > > Later in the kana vaar description : > > > > [ b ] maut fanda ghar athve hota, nag zamana tarata/ marta ho. > [ page 898 > > > > urdu ed 52 } > > > > { this line is missing in Arun sanhita.} > > > > > > If this combination occurs in the 8th house then it will give > mrityu tulya > > > > kashta { misery like hell } between 36th and 39th year or could > make one > > > > flourish. > > > > Now how to reconcile these two contradictory statements? > > > > Entirely my personal interpretation and there is no authority I > could > > > > quote from. > > > > These two results will depend on the existence of a Lahsun or a > Padma on the person of the Jatak. > > > > Padma is a birth mark which can be hidden under the thumb, while > a Lahsun is bigger which can not be hidden under the thumb. Lahsun > is described as indicator of grahan > > > > If a person has a padma mark on the right side of his body which > stays hidden { posheeda} then the first statement will come true > i.e. he will have wealth, prosperity and fame > > > > If he has a Lahsun on the right side of his body then the second > statement will come true i.e. he will have to go through misery of > hell during the naag zamaana { 36th to 39th} > > > > If the Lahsun is on the left, it will give faqeeri also. > > The padma on the left will be non-effective. > > > > If there is neither a padma mark nor a lahsun mark, in that case > either of the statement can come true or could have a mixed result > i.e. he could be wealthy and renowned and might go through hell > between the ages of 36 and 39. > > > > Regards, > > > > If there is neither a padma mark nor a lahsun mark, in that case > either of the statement can come true or could have a mixed result > i.e. he could be wealthy and renowned and might go through hell > between the ages of 36 and 39. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > Once upon a time there was 1 GB storage in your inbox. Click > here for happy ending. > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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