Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Respected Sanya ji, The planets in this combination should be studied at two levels; first in their individual capacity, and secondly in terms of masnuyee resultant. The combination of these three planets is invariably malefic in nature. Jupiter is more like a thief , Rahu like one who betrays, and Saturn a poisonous snake; consequently all the three planets become malefic in their nature. This combination becomes all the more malefic if there is a cemetery or veeran sthan on the south of the house the jatak lives in. Considering the masnuyee aspect, Jupiter + Rahu form a Mercury. Hence the combination becomes Saturn + mercury. This again is a very bad combination for the 8th house. The behavior of Saturn in the 8th is said to depend on how the Mercury is placed in the kundali. Mercury in the 8th is very malefic, unless in the company of male planets. Mercury in the 8th has been described as beemari ; zahmat aur laanat; chhupi tabahi ka phanda ; maali hani karnewala ; kodhi etc. Since such a malefic mercury is already in association of the Saturn, the results will be malefic. Therefore analyzing the combination on both the counts, the result comes to the same and that is malefic. ps : next time you post a query, address it respectfully. With Regards, Varun Trivedi , sanya mehra <sanyamehra_80 wrote: > > Hello > > Its very interesting wht you mentioned for saturn rahu combination as I have seen this combination in one of my relatives chart and its very true what you said. He literally went through hell like time during those years. > > What about people who have jupiter rahu saturn in 8th? > or may be some other planet combined with saturn and rahu in 8th. > Would the effect remain the same? > > Yours sincerely > Sanya > > > > Varun Trivedi <varun_trvd wrote: > Respected Inderjeet ji, > > A very tricky question. > > bhag umra {36-39} tak apni manda, ichhadhari phir hota ho > > Till the age of 36 -39 it will be generally manda and then will bloom into good times > > And now comes the intriguing part > > Saturn and Rahu in the 8th is an interesting proposition. There are two > > contradictory statements in the Book about this combination. > > [ a ] ghar panch ta aathve baitha raja shahon ka banata ho [ page 897 urdu > > ed 52] > > If this combination occurs from the 5th house to the 8th house, he will have > > wealth, > > prosperity and fame. > > Later in the kana vaar description : > > [ b ] maut fanda ghar athve hota, nag zamana tarata/ marta ho. [ page 898 > > urdu ed 52 } > > { this line is missing in Arun sanhita.} > > > If this combination occurs in the 8th house then it will give mrityu tulya > > kashta { misery like hell } between 36th and 39th year or could make one > > flourish. > > Now how to reconcile these two contradictory statements? > > Entirely my personal interpretation and there is no authority I could > > quote from. > > These two results will depend on the existence of a Lahsun or a Padma on the person of the Jatak. > > Padma is a birth mark which can be hidden under the thumb, while a Lahsun is bigger which can not be hidden under the thumb. Lahsun is described as indicator of grahan > > If a person has a padma mark on the right side of his body which stays hidden { posheeda} then the first statement will come true i.e. he will have wealth, prosperity and fame > > If he has a Lahsun on the right side of his body then the second statement will come true i.e. he will have to go through misery of hell during the naag zamaana { 36th to 39th} > > If the Lahsun is on the left, it will give faqeeri also. > The padma on the left will be non-effective. > > If there is neither a padma mark nor a lahsun mark, in that case either of the statement can come true or could have a mixed result i.e. he could be wealthy and renowned and might go through hell between the ages of 36 and 39. > > Regards, > > If there is neither a padma mark nor a lahsun mark, in that case either of the statement can come true or could have a mixed result i.e. he could be wealthy and renowned and might go through hell between the ages of 36 and 39. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > Once upon a time there was 1 GB storage in your inbox. Click here for happy ending. > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Respected VarunJi, I have a query however it is not related to 8th house. The reason why I am using the same subject line is; the masnuyee aspect used in the earlier mail will be applicable on my question i.e. Jupiter + Rahu form a Mercury. If you permit, may I float my question with this title across you else I can use other title as well? Warm Regards Naveen Aggarwal --------- --- varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > Respected Sanya ji, > > The planets in this combination should be studied at > two levels; > first in their individual capacity, and secondly in > terms of > masnuyee resultant. > > > The combination of these three planets is invariably > malefic in > nature. Jupiter is more like a thief , Rahu like one > who betrays, > and Saturn a poisonous snake; consequently all the > three planets > become malefic in their nature. This combination > becomes all the > more malefic if there is a cemetery or veeran sthan > on the south of > the house the jatak lives in. > > Considering the masnuyee aspect, Jupiter + Rahu form > a Mercury. > Hence the combination becomes Saturn + mercury. > > This again is a very bad combination for the 8th > house. The behavior > of Saturn in the 8th is said to depend on how the > Mercury is placed > in the kundali. Mercury in the 8th is very malefic, > unless in the > company of male planets. Mercury in the 8th has been > described as > beemari ; zahmat aur laanat; chhupi tabahi ka phanda > ; maali hani > karnewala ; kodhi etc. Since such a malefic mercury > is already in > association of the Saturn, the results will be > malefic. > > Therefore analyzing the combination on both the > counts, the result > comes to the same and that is malefic. > > ps : next time you post a query, address it > respectfully. > > With Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > , sanya > mehra > <sanyamehra_80 wrote: > > > > Hello > > > > Its very interesting wht you mentioned for > saturn rahu > combination as I have seen this combination in one > of my relatives > chart and its very true what you said. He literally > went through > hell like time during those years. > > > > What about people who have jupiter rahu saturn > in 8th? > > or may be some other planet combined with saturn > and rahu in 8th. > > Would the effect remain the same? > > > > Yours sincerely > > Sanya > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi <varun_trvd wrote: > > Respected Inderjeet ji, > > > > A very tricky question. > > > > bhag umra {36-39} tak apni manda, ichhadhari > phir hota ho > > > > Till the age of 36 -39 it will be generally > manda and then will > bloom into good times > > > > And now comes the intriguing part > > > > Saturn and Rahu in the 8th is an interesting > proposition. There > are two > > > > contradictory statements in the Book about this > combination. > > > > [ a ] ghar panch ta aathve baitha raja shahon ka > banata ho [ > page 897 urdu > > > > ed 52] > > > > If this combination occurs from the 5th house to > the 8th house, > he will have > > > > wealth, > > > > prosperity and fame. > > > > Later in the kana vaar description : > > > > [ b ] maut fanda ghar athve hota, nag zamana > tarata/ marta ho. > [ page 898 > > > > urdu ed 52 } > > > > { this line is missing in Arun > sanhita.} > > > > > > If this combination occurs in the 8th house then > it will give > mrityu tulya > > > > kashta { misery like hell } between 36th and > 39th year or could > make one > > > > flourish. > > > > Now how to reconcile these two contradictory > statements? > > > > Entirely my personal interpretation and there is > no authority I > could > > > > quote from. > > > > These two results will depend on the existence > of a Lahsun or a > Padma on the person of the Jatak. > > > > Padma is a birth mark which can be hidden under > the thumb, while > a Lahsun is bigger which can not be hidden under the > thumb. Lahsun > is described as indicator of grahan > > > > If a person has a padma mark on the right side > of his body which > stays hidden { posheeda} then the first statement > will come true > i.e. he will have wealth, prosperity and fame > > > > If he has a Lahsun on the right side of his body > then the second > statement will come true i.e. he will have to go > through misery of > hell during the naag zamaana { 36th to 39th} > > > > If the Lahsun is on the left, it will give > faqeeri also. > > The padma on the left will be non-effective. > > > > If there is neither a padma mark nor a lahsun > mark, in that case > either of the statement can come true or could have > a mixed result > i.e. he could be wealthy and renowned and might go > through hell > between the ages of 36 and 39. > > > > Regards, > > > > If there is neither a padma mark nor a lahsun > mark, in that case > either of the statement can come true or could have > a mixed result > i.e. he could be wealthy and renowned and might go > through hell > between the ages of 36 and 39. > === message truncated === ______________________________\ ____ Got a little couch potato? 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Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Respected Aggarwal saheb, Sure, you should post your query under a new heading of masnuyee planets. lets see what meal we make out of it. Regards, Chandra Prakash , naveen aggarwal <mail2aggarwal wrote: > > Respected VarunJi, > > I have a query however it is not related to 8th house. > The reason why I am using the same subject line is; > the masnuyee aspect used in the earlier mail will be > applicable on my question i.e. Jupiter + Rahu form a > Mercury. > > If you permit, may I float my question with this title > across you else I can use other title as well? > > Warm Regards > Naveen Aggarwal > > --------- > > > --- varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > > Respected Sanya ji, > > > > The planets in this combination should be studied at > > two levels; > > first in their individual capacity, and secondly in > > terms of > > masnuyee resultant. > > > > > > The combination of these three planets is invariably > > malefic in > > nature. Jupiter is more like a thief , Rahu like one > > who betrays, > > and Saturn a poisonous snake; consequently all the > > three planets > > become malefic in their nature. This combination > > becomes all the > > more malefic if there is a cemetery or veeran sthan > > on the south of > > the house the jatak lives in. > > > > Considering the masnuyee aspect, Jupiter + Rahu form > > a Mercury. > > Hence the combination becomes Saturn + mercury. > > > > This again is a very bad combination for the 8th > > house. The behavior > > of Saturn in the 8th is said to depend on how the > > Mercury is placed > > in the kundali. Mercury in the 8th is very malefic, > > unless in the > > company of male planets. Mercury in the 8th has been > > described as > > beemari ; zahmat aur laanat; chhupi tabahi ka phanda > > ; maali hani > > karnewala ; kodhi etc. Since such a malefic mercury > > is already in > > association of the Saturn, the results will be > > malefic. > > > > Therefore analyzing the combination on both the > > counts, the result > > comes to the same and that is malefic. > > > > ps : next time you post a query, address it > > respectfully. > > > > With Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , sanya > > mehra > > <sanyamehra_80@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > Its very interesting wht you mentioned for > > saturn rahu > > combination as I have seen this combination in one > > of my relatives > > chart and its very true what you said. He literally > > went through > > hell like time during those years. > > > > > > What about people who have jupiter rahu saturn > > in 8th? > > > or may be some other planet combined with saturn > > and rahu in 8th. > > > Would the effect remain the same? > > > > > > Yours sincerely > > > Sanya > > > > > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > Respected Inderjeet ji, > > > > > > A very tricky question. > > > > > > bhag umra {36-39} tak apni manda, ichhadhari > > phir hota ho > > > > > > Till the age of 36 -39 it will be generally > > manda and then will > > bloom into good times > > > > > > And now comes the intriguing part > > > > > > Saturn and Rahu in the 8th is an interesting > > proposition. There > > are two > > > > > > contradictory statements in the Book about this > > combination. > > > > > > [ a ] ghar panch ta aathve baitha raja shahon ka > > banata ho [ > > page 897 urdu > > > > > > ed 52] > > > > > > If this combination occurs from the 5th house to > > the 8th house, > > he will have > > > > > > wealth, > > > > > > prosperity and fame. > > > > > > Later in the kana vaar description : > > > > > > [ b ] maut fanda ghar athve hota, nag zamana > > tarata/ marta ho. > > [ page 898 > > > > > > urdu ed 52 } > > > > > > { this line is missing in Arun > > sanhita.} > > > > > > > > > If this combination occurs in the 8th house then > > it will give > > mrityu tulya > > > > > > kashta { misery like hell } between 36th and > > 39th year or could > > make one > > > > > > flourish. > > > > > > Now how to reconcile these two contradictory > > statements? > > > > > > Entirely my personal interpretation and there is > > no authority I > > could > > > > > > quote from. > > > > > > These two results will depend on the existence > > of a Lahsun or a > > Padma on the person of the Jatak. > > > > > > Padma is a birth mark which can be hidden under > > the thumb, while > > a Lahsun is bigger which can not be hidden under the > > thumb. Lahsun > > is described as indicator of grahan > > > > > > If a person has a padma mark on the right side > > of his body which > > stays hidden { posheeda} then the first statement > > will come true > > i.e. he will have wealth, prosperity and fame > > > > > > If he has a Lahsun on the right side of his body > > then the second > > statement will come true i.e. he will have to go > > through misery of > > hell during the naag zamaana { 36th to 39th} > > > > > > If the Lahsun is on the left, it will give > > faqeeri also. > > > The padma on the left will be non-effective. > > > > > > If there is neither a padma mark nor a lahsun > > mark, in that case > > either of the statement can come true or could have > > a mixed result > > i.e. he could be wealthy and renowned and might go > > through hell > > between the ages of 36 and 39. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > If there is neither a padma mark nor a lahsun > > mark, in that case > > either of the statement can come true or could have > > a mixed result > > i.e. he could be wealthy and renowned and might go > > through hell > > between the ages of 36 and 39. > > > === message truncated === > > > > > ___________________ _______________ > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > http://search./search? fr=oni_on_mail & p=summer+activities+for+kids & cs=bz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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