Guest guest Posted July 6, 2007 Report Share Posted July 6, 2007 Respected Tyagi Ji Yes U asked a very logical question.Even some times peole feel shame to demand from Sasural.So in that case also it is important.In my opinion in such circumstances ,one shud take water from a JHARNA , Mere kehney ka matlab hai ki - PAHAAD KA SEENAA PHODKER JOR SE NIKALTAA HUA PAANI BHI ISTEMAAL KIYAA JA SAKTAA HAI.lEKIN SHART EK HI HOGI KI PAANI SEEDHEY HEE KISI BARTAN MAIN IKATTHA KAR LIYAA JAYE AUR USE GHAR LAA-KER 43 DIN TAK PIYAA JAAYE. KYONKI KHANA NO 2 KO LALKITAB MAIN PAHAADON KI JANZEER (KOHESAAR) BHI BOLAA GAYAA HAI.AISE MAIN USKAA PAANI HEE THEEK RAHEGAA.AGAR CHAANDI KE GILAAS MAIN ISKA SEWAN KIYAA JAAYE TO BHI BURAA NAHI. AB YAH NA POOCHH LENAA KI AISE MAIN MADIR SE LIYAA HUA PAANI BHI CHALEGAA YA NAHI.MANDIR SE LIYAA PAANI KI UPAAY KE TAUR PAR VO TASEER NAHI HOGI.DOOSRI TARF JAB IS TARAH SE PAANI LIYAA JAYE TO CHANDAR KO POORI TARIKE SE KUNDALI MAIN JIS JAGAH PAR BAITHA HO US KHANA NO. KE MUTALKAA BAKHOOBI ANALYZE KARNAA BHI JAROORI HO JAATAA HAI.MAN MARZI SE UCHH KA CHANDAR ISTEMAAL NAHI KIYAA JA SAKTA. JAB ISTEMAAL KARNE KI GUNJAISH HO TABHI KIYAA JA SAKTAA HAI.VARNAA DUNIYAAN KA HAR INSAAN UCHH KA CHANDAR PAHAAD SE LANEY KE LIYE CHAL PADEGA AAP JAB CHANDAR KE PAANI KE BAARE MAIN DHYAAN SE READ KARENGEY TO SAMAJH AA JAYEGAA. with regards Pt.Lalkitabee , " cptyagi2007 " <cptyagi2007 wrote: > > Respected Lalkitabee ji, > > I was just wondering if some one is not married and doesn't have a > sasural, and he can't get a chandi ka gilas, then what can he do? Any > alternative to this upaya? > > Respectfully, > > Chandra Prakash > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Guru Lalkitabee ji, Pahar se paani to laye yeh maan kar ki uchcha ke chandra ka paani laye hain. par kahin aisa na ho jaye ki paani shani ka aajaye. with respect, Varun Trivedi , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee wrote: > > Respected Tyagi Ji > Yes U asked a very logical question.Even some times peole feel shame > to demand from Sasural.So in that case also it is important.In my > opinion in such circumstances ,one shud take water from a JHARNA , > Mere kehney ka matlab hai ki - PAHAAD KA SEENAA PHODKER JOR SE > NIKALTAA HUA PAANI BHI ISTEMAAL KIYAA JA SAKTAA HAI.lEKIN SHART EK > HI HOGI KI PAANI SEEDHEY HEE KISI BARTAN MAIN IKATTHA KAR LIYAA JAYE > AUR USE GHAR LAA-KER 43 DIN TAK PIYAA JAAYE. KYONKI KHANA NO 2 KO > LALKITAB MAIN PAHAADON KI JANZEER (KOHESAAR) BHI BOLAA GAYAA > HAI.AISE MAIN USKAA PAANI HEE THEEK RAHEGAA.AGAR CHAANDI KE GILAAS > MAIN ISKA SEWAN KIYAA JAAYE TO BHI BURAA NAHI. > AB YAH NA POOCHH LENAA KI AISE MAIN MADIR SE LIYAA HUA PAANI > BHI CHALEGAA YA NAHI.MANDIR SE LIYAA PAANI KI UPAAY KE TAUR PAR VO > TASEER NAHI HOGI.DOOSRI TARF JAB IS TARAH SE PAANI LIYAA JAYE TO > CHANDAR KO POORI TARIKE SE KUNDALI MAIN JIS JAGAH PAR BAITHA HO US > KHANA NO. KE MUTALKAA BAKHOOBI ANALYZE KARNAA BHI JAROORI HO JAATAA > HAI.MAN MARZI SE UCHH KA CHANDAR ISTEMAAL NAHI KIYAA JA SAKTA. JAB > ISTEMAAL KARNE KI GUNJAISH HO TABHI KIYAA JA SAKTAA HAI.VARNAA > DUNIYAAN KA HAR INSAAN UCHH KA CHANDAR PAHAAD SE LANEY KE LIYE CHAL > PADEGA > AAP JAB CHANDAR KE PAANI KE BAARE MAIN DHYAAN SE READ KARENGEY TO > SAMAJH AA JAYEGAA. > with regards > Pt.Lalkitabee > , " cptyagi2007 " > <cptyagi2007@> wrote: > > > > Respected Lalkitabee ji, > > > > I was just wondering if some one is not married and doesn't have a > > sasural, and he can't get a chandi ka gilas, then what can he do? > Any > > alternative to this upaya? > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Chandra Prakash > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Aadarneeya Lalkitabee ji, A brilliant answer with an equally brilliant alternative. I have my moon in the 5th. Next time when I go to the mountains I must get a can filled with this water. With regards, Chandra Prakash , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee wrote: > > Respected Tyagi Ji > Yes U asked a very logical question.Even some times peole feel shame > to demand from Sasural.So in that case also it is important.In my > opinion in such circumstances ,one shud take water from a JHARNA , > Mere kehney ka matlab hai ki - PAHAAD KA SEENAA PHODKER JOR SE > NIKALTAA HUA PAANI BHI ISTEMAAL KIYAA JA SAKTAA HAI.lEKIN SHART EK > HI HOGI KI PAANI SEEDHEY HEE KISI BARTAN MAIN IKATTHA KAR LIYAA JAYE > AUR USE GHAR LAA-KER 43 DIN TAK PIYAA JAAYE. KYONKI KHANA NO 2 KO > LALKITAB MAIN PAHAADON KI JANZEER (KOHESAAR) BHI BOLAA GAYAA > HAI.AISE MAIN USKAA PAANI HEE THEEK RAHEGAA.AGAR CHAANDI KE GILAAS > MAIN ISKA SEWAN KIYAA JAAYE TO BHI BURAA NAHI. > AB YAH NA POOCHH LENAA KI AISE MAIN MADIR SE LIYAA HUA PAANI > BHI CHALEGAA YA NAHI.MANDIR SE LIYAA PAANI KI UPAAY KE TAUR PAR VO > TASEER NAHI HOGI.DOOSRI TARF JAB IS TARAH SE PAANI LIYAA JAYE TO > CHANDAR KO POORI TARIKE SE KUNDALI MAIN JIS JAGAH PAR BAITHA HO US > KHANA NO. KE MUTALKAA BAKHOOBI ANALYZE KARNAA BHI JAROORI HO JAATAA > HAI.MAN MARZI SE UCHH KA CHANDAR ISTEMAAL NAHI KIYAA JA SAKTA. JAB > ISTEMAAL KARNE KI GUNJAISH HO TABHI KIYAA JA SAKTAA HAI.VARNAA > DUNIYAAN KA HAR INSAAN UCHH KA CHANDAR PAHAAD SE LANEY KE LIYE CHAL > PADEGA > AAP JAB CHANDAR KE PAANI KE BAARE MAIN DHYAAN SE READ KARENGEY TO > SAMAJH AA JAYEGAA. > with regards > Pt.Lalkitabee > , " cptyagi2007 " > <cptyagi2007@> wrote: > > > > Respected Lalkitabee ji, > > > > I was just wondering if some one is not married and doesn't have a > > sasural, and he can't get a chandi ka gilas, then what can he do? > Any > > alternative to this upaya? > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Chandra Prakash > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Respected Tyagi Ji Yes U can do it.But it is my advice to take care properly. Bcoz Moon is itself will be a suject of analyzation.VARNAA JIS JIS KA MOON 5TH MAIN HOGAA VO SABHI MOUNTAINS SE PAHAAD KA PAANI BATOR LENGEY. It is only subject to analyze 8th,2nd, 6th & 11th khanas. As wel as 9th 2nd & 4th khanas. Otherwise only water of PAHAAD can not do anything.I know U & Varun will peep into my words. So if im unable to express my views ,then pardon me.I regard ur all seeking & peeping views. Bcoz only that kind of nature can help to elaborate properly whole lalkitab astrology.But my word is not last.U can also be there with ur words under the lalkitab system approach. With Regards Pt.Lalkitabee , " cptyagi2007 " <cptyagi2007 wrote: > > Aadarneeya Lalkitabee ji, > > A brilliant answer with an equally brilliant alternative. I have my > moon in the 5th. Next time when I go to the mountains I must get a > can filled with this water. > > With regards, > > Chandra Prakash , " lalkitabee " > <lalkitabee@> wrote: > > > > Respected Tyagi Ji > > Yes U asked a very logical question.Even some times peole feel > shame > > to demand from Sasural.So in that case also it is important.In my > > opinion in such circumstances ,one shud take water from a JHARNA , > > Mere kehney ka matlab hai ki - PAHAAD KA SEENAA PHODKER JOR SE > > NIKALTAA HUA PAANI BHI ISTEMAAL KIYAA JA SAKTAA HAI.lEKIN SHART EK > > HI HOGI KI PAANI SEEDHEY HEE KISI BARTAN MAIN IKATTHA KAR LIYAA > JAYE > > AUR USE GHAR LAA-KER 43 DIN TAK PIYAA JAAYE. KYONKI KHANA NO 2 KO > > LALKITAB MAIN PAHAADON KI JANZEER (KOHESAAR) BHI BOLAA GAYAA > > HAI.AISE MAIN USKAA PAANI HEE THEEK RAHEGAA.AGAR CHAANDI KE GILAAS > > MAIN ISKA SEWAN KIYAA JAAYE TO BHI BURAA NAHI. > > AB YAH NA POOCHH LENAA KI AISE MAIN MADIR SE LIYAA HUA PAANI > > BHI CHALEGAA YA NAHI.MANDIR SE LIYAA PAANI KI UPAAY KE TAUR PAR VO > > TASEER NAHI HOGI.DOOSRI TARF JAB IS TARAH SE PAANI LIYAA JAYE TO > > CHANDAR KO POORI TARIKE SE KUNDALI MAIN JIS JAGAH PAR BAITHA HO US > > KHANA NO. KE MUTALKAA BAKHOOBI ANALYZE KARNAA BHI JAROORI HO JAATAA > > HAI.MAN MARZI SE UCHH KA CHANDAR ISTEMAAL NAHI KIYAA JA SAKTA. JAB > > ISTEMAAL KARNE KI GUNJAISH HO TABHI KIYAA JA SAKTAA HAI.VARNAA > > DUNIYAAN KA HAR INSAAN UCHH KA CHANDAR PAHAAD SE LANEY KE LIYE CHAL > > PADEGA > > AAP JAB CHANDAR KE PAANI KE BAARE MAIN DHYAAN SE READ KARENGEY TO > > SAMAJH AA JAYEGAA. > > with regards > > Pt.Lalkitabee > > , " cptyagi2007 " > > <cptyagi2007@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Lalkitabee ji, > > > > > > I was just wondering if some one is not married and doesn't have > a > > > sasural, and he can't get a chandi ka gilas, then what can he do? > > Any > > > alternative to this upaya? > > > > > > Respectfully, > > > > > > Chandra Prakash > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 dear Lalkitabee ji, chander ke paani ka asar Lk men read kiya.Par yeh paani ka asar education se related diya gaya hai.Chasme ke paani ki simli moon 2 ke education ke result se concerned hai. Is liye is ko rahu ki remedy ke liye use karna kaise plausible hai.adhik se adhik apne logic se ise use karna ho to chahsme ka paani chander 2 men agar education theek na chal rahi ho or education ka koi laabh nazar na aata ho us waqt ise socha ja sakta hai.har khana number ke liye alag alag paani ki taaseer di hui hai,ise no.5 men kaise fit karenge.please clarify. To original question, i would say that in such a case, rahu ki general remedy kar li jayei.e. chaandi ke gilaas ka istemaal peene wali cheeson ke liye karna or some other remedy for rahu as rahu was in no.12 in varshphal kundli of gupta ji. with regards and best wsihes; sincerely, kiranjeet We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 Hello everybody I had a question based on your discussion. When is one required to take chandi ka glass from sasuraal or drink pahad ka paani..When moon is in 5th house or second house? I also read in one of your discussion saying that mars and saturn in 11th house will not give good result if aspected by jupiter and also that for ketu in 10th one should offer to sun god water mixed with milk. I saw a chart which has ketu in 10th..mars and saturn in 11th in rashi 6 and moon and jupiter in 5th in rashi 12. He is going through moon mahadasha. Does he need to get chandi ka glass from his sasural and is his mars and saturn adversely affected by jupiters aspect from 5th house..if yes what he should do? For ketu in 10th is offering water with milk the only remedy? In one of forums discussion it said for such a placement one should not lend money to others without written document as the latter would not repay him the amount otherwise. Is that true? What does lal kitaab quote about this placement? Yours sincerely Sanyakiranjit kumar <kapatjal wrote: dear Lalkitabee ji, chander ke paani ka asar Lk men read kiya.Par yeh paani ka asar education se related diya gaya hai.Chasme ke paani ki simli moon 2 ke education ke result se concerned hai. Is liye is ko rahu ki remedy ke liye use karna kaise plausible hai.adhik se adhik apne logic se ise use karna ho to chahsme ka paani chander 2 men agar education theek na chal rahi ho or education ka koi laabh nazar na aata ho us waqt ise socha ja sakta hai.har khana number ke liye alag alag paani ki taaseer di hui hai,ise no.5 men kaise fit karenge.please clarify. To original question, i would say that in such a case, rahu ki general remedy kar li jayei.e. chaandi ke gilaas ka istemaal peene wali cheeson ke liye karna or some other remedy for rahu as rahu was in no.12 in varshphal kundli of gupta ji. with regards and best wsihes; sincerely, kiranjeet We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Dear Sanya ji, If you had read the original write up by respected Lalkitabee ji carefully, you would have known when it becomes necessary to either get a silver tumbler from the in-laws or get the water from the mountains. Summarizing what respected Lalkitabee ji had said : The Lal Kitab says that the monsoon winds arise from the ocean of the 9th house and strike against the mountain of the 2nd house and fall as rain on the plains of the 4th house. If there is enough evidence of the monsoon clouds rising from the ocean of the 9th house and striking against the mountain of the 2nd and for some unexplained reason the monsoon gets stuck up in the 2nd house and consequently there is no rain on the plains of the 4th house then the upaya suggested above is to be done to lead the monsoon from the 2nd house to the 4th house. This upaya is to bring the rain onto the plains of the 4th house.In other words retrieve the stuck up monsoon in the 2nd house But there is a precaution to be taken. As the Book says, khana 6 ki salah lekar khana 8 baa-rasta 11 ke khana 2 mein na-gahani karega, the 8th house on the advice of the 6th will have a malicious effect on the 2nd through the 11th house. Therefore this upaya of silver tumbler is to be done only after possible malefic effect to the 2nd from the 6th, 8th and the 11th is nullified. You would realize that the entire context of this upaya hinges around the 9th and is relevant for two things ( a ) Finances and ( b ) Bhagya, and the key bhav being the 9th house. Therefore if the Moon is associated with either the 9th or the 2nd house in some form, this upaya can be done. Now coming to your specific queries : [ a ] yes if mars and Saturn placed in the 11th house are under the aspect of Jupiter then the results of both the planets will be destroyed. He could be in debt in spite of good income. This can be nullified if he establishes things of his own money and not bought by the money of his father. [ b ] The upaya you mentioned for Ketu 10 is in the context of the change of place. It is not a general upaya for ketu in 10th. You have to work out the upaya for that kundali yourself. Regards, Varun Trivedi , sanya mehra <sanyamehra_80 wrote: > > Hello everybody > I had a question based on your discussion. > When is one required to take chandi ka glass from sasuraal or drink pahad ka paani..When moon is in 5th house or second house? > > I also read in one of your discussion saying that mars and saturn in 11th house will not give good result if aspected by jupiter and also that for ketu in 10th one should offer to sun god water mixed with milk. > > I saw a chart which has ketu in 10th..mars and saturn in 11th in rashi 6 and moon and jupiter in 5th in rashi 12. > > He is going through moon mahadasha. > Does he need to get chandi ka glass from his sasural and is his mars and saturn adversely affected by jupiters aspect from 5th house..if yes what he should do? > > For ketu in 10th is offering water with milk the only remedy? > > In one of forums discussion it said for such a placement one should not lend money to others without written document as the latter would not repay him the amount otherwise. Is that true? > > What does lal kitaab quote about this placement? > > Yours sincerely > Sanya > > kiranjit kumar <kapatjal wrote: > dear Lalkitabee ji, > chander ke paani ka asar Lk men read kiya.Par yeh paani ka asar education se related diya gaya hai.Chasme ke paani ki simli moon 2 ke education ke result se concerned hai. > Is liye is ko rahu ki remedy ke liye use karna kaise plausible hai.adhik se adhik apne logic se ise use karna ho to chahsme ka paani chander 2 men agar education theek na chal rahi ho or education ka koi laabh nazar na aata ho us waqt ise socha ja sakta hai.har khana number ke liye alag alag paani ki taaseer di hui hai,ise no.5 men kaise fit karenge.please clarify. > To original question, i would say that in such a case, rahu ki general remedy kar li jayei.e. chaandi ke gilaas ka istemaal peene wali cheeson ke liye karna or some other remedy for rahu as rahu was in no.12 in varshphal kundli of gupta ji. > with regards and best wsihes; > sincerely, > kiranjeet > > > We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love > (and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list. > > > > Send free SMS to your Friends on Mobile from your Messenger. Download Now! http://messenger./download.php > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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