Guest guest Posted June 24, 2007 Report Share Posted June 24, 2007 Respected Bhatia ji, Thank you for letting us know the nature and the role of the Lal Qalam. Yes, I agree with you that we need not convert Vedic astrology scholars into the believers of the Lal Kitab; nor we should bother whether they recognize the Lal Kitab as a valuable book on astrology or not. But the problem is that most of the time our interaction is with the vedic astrology scholars. This is the reality we can not alter. We can not run away from their questions, we have to face them squarely and boldly with logic and reason. And if there is any thing non-astrological or para-astrological said about the book by any of the Lal Kitab scholars, it becomes difficult for us to explain to the vedic astrology scholars. It is for this reason I made the request that we should not say things which might provide fuel for gossip against the Lal Kitab. With regards, Varun Trivedi , " Rajinder Bhatia " <rajinderbhatia2002 wrote: > > > Respected Varun Trivedi Jee, > > Lal Qalam (LQ) was exclusively Pt Jee's domain (and not a part of the > LalKitab system that you and I know.) It would be of interest to note > that the LQ was not used indiscriminately. Pt Jee had a limit of not > using it more than once a day. There were sometimes long gaps of weeks > when he wouldn't use it at all. But the main point is that this was > done to " order " the removal of the ill effects of grah phal or to get > around grah phal. We need to understand that us mortal beings are/will > not (be) privy to such a privilege. LQ is a special, oince-in- life-time > case. The reason this topic of LQ came about is because of the papers > posted by Umesh jee. For the rest of us, there is LalKitab which is an > ocean unto itself; we can continue to fish for knowledge in it for ever, > without the need of the special siddhis. That is how all of us are > operating (with LalKitab), are we not? And, reasonably successfully, I > might add. > > Nothing against the Vedic astrologers - I myself consult a couple of > them from time to time; I have a very high regard for Vedic - but I am > so overjoyed to read ( it has made my day, and I can say the same for > most of my fellow LalKitabists, too) and I quote from your Email : " In > the astrology community there is already such a great resistance against > the Lal Kitab simply because it has become so very popular.... " etc. > Well, if they are so narrow minded and (perhaps jealous of the success > of LalKitab) it is their problem, why should we worry about converting > them or cater to their whims and fancies? Let them come to us. The > proof is in the pudding. Frankly, I see no predicament here. Best > regards. > > Respectfully, > > Rajinder Bhatia > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Respected Bhatia ji and Kiranjit Ji, > > > > We all agree that Pandit ji had deep insight into the subject and > > why not, after all he was the one who discovered the system. Along > > with the insight into the subject he had tremendous power of > > intuition also. > > > > What I had reacted to was the word ‘siddhi’. In common > parlance this > > word is associated with supernatural, tantra, extraterrestrial, some > > thing not natural or logical . All I wanted to say was that let us > > not associate the word ‘siddhi’ with the knowledge of > Lal Kitab. > > > > If we did that it would mean that after Pandit ji , unless some one > > emerges who has attained a ‘siddhi’, the Lal Kitab > knowledge would > > stay futile and barren. In that case Lal Kitab will no longer be > > treated as a valuable book of astrology, it would be some esoteric > > mysterious book meant for a very few having a ‘siddhi’ > > > > The effort of some of us is to establish the Lal Kitab as a treatise > > on Astrology as valuable as Parashar or Jamini with nothing esoteric > > or mysterious about it; and to get Lal Kitab established in the main > > stream of Indian Vedic astrology. > > > > There are already myths galore about this book. We, a small group, > > make every effort to demystify the book. One more myth added would > > make our task even more difficult. > > > > In the astrology community there is already such a great resistance > > against the Lal Kitab simply because it has become so very popular > > on the net within a couple of years. The Lal Kitab is so popular > > that its remedies group is the second most popular astrology group > > on the entire net. > > > > I hope you can understand our predicament. > > > > With respect and regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kiranjit kumar > > kapatjal@ wrote: > > > > > > dear Varun Ji, > > > It is surprising of a pundit of astrology ; not believing > > in 'riddhi and siddhi' . > > > U perhaps did not read the post carefully. > > > I have only made an endeavour to remove some misconceptions > > about the photo page posted by respected umesh ji and consequently > > thrown light on one aspect of personality of respected pundit ji.For > > u 'sidhi' may be a myth; but everyone,who was in this line, knew > > about his 'siddhi'.I am talking of seventies. > > > Such powers cannot be used indiscriminately. > > > I do not think that u r naive enough to imagine that pundit ji > > was using his powers for 100 odd persons visiting him on Sundays.In > > his Sunday durbaars,he would only ask for a question or two for > > drusti of kundli and pronounce remedies as par Lk.It was Lal kitab > > only which he was practising. surely,u would have read the remedies > > of pundit ji in transliteration of prabhakar ji.LK files were always > > by the side of pundit ji in his Sunday durbaars. > > > I am duty bound to share my experiences outside the daayera of > > LK with all those members who have not met or shall never get a > > chance to meet respected pundit ji.LK is long past of being a myth > > after Hindi versions made their appearance in the market .Totaka - > > toona waali baat to tab thi jab pundits were not able to understand > > it and they made this false propaganda to further their own images. > > > No body can bring its image down and so far no one has appeared > > on the stage to further its image after pundit ji. > > > kabhie milna, varun ji ; aap ko aur bhi bahut si baaten > > sunaayoonga.abhi to aap mere baare mein adhik jaante bhi nahin > > honge.U should utilize your logic and your beautiful writing > > abilities in a better way with a positive attitude; not just for > > the sake of writing. > > > MAY i add that i got my promotion to class I officer in 1979 > > through Punjab public service commision,Patiala with these powers of > > pundit ji and i paid Rs.3.25/-to pundit ji for charity ( 1% of the > > increase in my monthly emoluments;it is 1% for doctors) and thanked > > him with a box of sweets.AND I have no documentary evidence of > > proving if I tell u that I was asstt. to a relative of mine in > > operating upon respected pundit ji " s wife for her eye ailment. > > > Aap hi batayein,agar grah grah phal ka ho aur jis ki koi remedy > > na ho ya kabhi gardish men koi remedy kaam na kar rahi ho, to " rekh > > mein mekh' kaun lagayega; rekh mein mekh kaa zikr LK mein bhi hai. > > > God bless u; > > > My regards and best wishes, > > > sincerely, > > > kiranjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's > > user panel and lay it on us. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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