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Respected Yog Raj ji,

 

You seem to have misunderstood my message. I have nothing

against'charity'. Charity in any form and by any one is always

beneficial for the man kind.

 

What I was reacting to is the phrase used by Respected Kiranjit ji:

 

" help was done by pundit ji with his 'sidhi'. "

 

It is this that I do not want to be propagated. I believe that the

help was done by the upaya. Yes, Pandit ji might have used his

intuition { or call it siddhi if you like} to analyse and identify

the planet/s causing problems.But ultimately it were the upaya that

helped the jatak.

 

With regards,

 

Varun Trivedi.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Yograj Prabhakar

<yr_prabhakar wrote:

>

> Dear Varun Bhai,

>

> I appreciate your concern and pain regarding unnecessary myths

about Lal Kitab and Pt. Roop Chand Joshi ji. These myths and

misconceptions has really harmed the cause of Lal Kitab astrology

very badly. And we should work honestly so that this sacred

scripture does not become a laughing stock.

>

> But with all due respect and apology, I beg to differ with your

notion of Myth (in response to Dr. Kiranjit Jis mail). Rest assured,

the concept of Charity it is not at all a myth, rather a 100%

truth. The only thing Dr. Kiranjit ji is not aware of is the usage

of that charity money. A largest part of this money was donated to a

Pingalwada in Jalandhar, people from the Pingalwada used to come on

a fixed date to collect their share. Some part of this charity money

was given for the marriages of underprivileged girls. Many of the

benefited families of Doaba region of Punjab can still verify what

Pundit Ji has done for them in the need of hour.

>

> Kindly note that these are not any hearsay rather these are the

words of Pundit Somdutt ji and Shri Ravinder Joshi ji (Pundit jis

grandson – Dohtaa, who lives in Phagwara and is working in the

administration section of the Punjab Police). This fact can be

verified from the Veteran Lal Kitab Maharishi Shri Sumat Prasad ji

if anybody has any doubt. Moreover, for me it is hard to digest that

a true devotee of the revered Lal Kitab like Dr. Kiranjit ji will

ever thought of creating any myth, or spreading any misinformation.

>

> You have mentioned that Pt. Ji was a simple saintly man (yes he

really was), but how come you know that? Is there any indication in

any of the book regarding his personality, or is it your personal

opinion from his writings only? Varun Bhai, we have seen Pt. Jis

photograph as a simple village folk, but do you know that Pundit ji

also use to wear attractive three-piece suit and sport a colorful

Necktie? And that he also use to speak chaste and fluent English?

Perhaps not many people are not aware that Pt. ji was also called

Baba ji, Pt. Roop Lal, Lamba Pundat and Pharwale wala Pundat by

nears and dears?

>

> I fully agree that we should go by the facts rather than the word

of mouth, but sometimes everything is not written anywhere.

>

>

> Respectfully

> Yograj Prabhakar

>

>

> varun_trvd <varun_trvd

wrote: Respected Kiranjit Kumar ji,

>

> Please for God’s sake let us not weave another myth around the

Lal

> Kitab. Such myths have already done a great damage to the cause

of

> the Lal Kitab. It is because of these baseless myths LK is

> considered more a book of Totka-Tona than a serious treatise on

> astrology.

>

> If I believe this myth then I will also have to believe that the

> upaya are all irrelevant. I will also have to believe that what

ever

> pandit ji achieved in alleviating the misery of the common man

was

> not through the upaya suggested by him but through the help of

these

> spirits who delivered redemption at the door steps of the person

> like a postman.

>

> Logically it would mean that upaya suggested by those, who do not

> have any of these spirits at their command, would be futile.

>

> We all know that Pandit ji was a siddh purush. He was a siddh

purush

> not because he had some ghosts or spirits at his command, but

> because he was a well meaning person who wanted the well being of

> every one without asking any thing for him in return. He was a

> simple saintly man.

>

> I would, therefore, request members to be careful about what they

> say because these things have a far reaching impact and make LK a

> laughing stock amongst the astrology community.

>

> With regards,

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

> , kiranjit kumar

> <kapatjal@> wrote:

> >

> > dear kulbir ji,

> > there r two different things on the page posted by respected

> umesh ji:

> > one is varsha phal kundlis and the remedies thereof-remedies

> which have been transliterated ably by prabhakar ji.

> > second is the complete address of BR Gupta ji.It is this

address

> which has been encircled by respected pundit ji and in this

very

> circle only the words 'charity' and the 'dates' appear by or

before

> which the work of mr . gupta was to be got done-one is to provide

> him protection and the other is for mr. gupta's promotion. This

is

> what respected pundit ji did with his 'sidhi'--he would ask the

> complete address to be written(he would stress it again and again

> with the example that if the postman was to deliver a letter at

this

> address, he should be able to do so easily) and then respected

> pundit ji would encicle it with red ink with his pen;write the

> purpose e.g. promotion and then by charity in good sense.Earlier

he

> used to write only by charity;but then someone got promoted to

RBI

> governor and his only son died after he was promoted. Thereafter;

he

> started adding the words'in good sense' so that no harm is done

to

> the person whose help was done by pundit ji with his

> > 'sidhi'.

> > 'By charity', he did not ask the person to give something

> himself to charity. Instead, pundit ji would ask the person to

hand

> him over 10% of the financial gains after the work was done by

> his 'sidhi'.In those times, the amount would be quite meagre as

the

> pay scales were not very high. I do not know for what purpose

the

> money was used by pundit ji--but it can be safely asumed that it

was

> used for the appeasement of 'sidhi'.

> > Pundit ji never accepted any gratifications; the pens ,if

> gifted to him,must have been from very very close associates or

> friends.Since he had served in AG office ,Simla; he had quite

wide

> circle of friends.Even from persons whose work was done bu him

> through his powers, he never charged or asked for any money

except

> for the charity which he would tell at the time of writing with

red

> ink.

> > i hope this clarifies about charity and pundit ji's power

> of 'sidhi'. I have quoted all this from by first hand experience

> with respected pundit ji in the year 1979.

> > With best wishes;

> > sincerely,

> > kiranjeet

> >

> >

> >

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