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June 20, 2007

native no.4 kulbir singh bains dob 15-02-1971, tob 08:50am,

chandigarh.

in this tewa shukra is in 10th house ; sahni is in 2nd house.

thereby they become saathi grah. when shukr shani become saathi

grahs and the native keeps a relation outside his marriage his or

her spouse is bound to do the same and trouble is in store for him,.

the native was married in 1999 at that time he was what we

call " sire ka aayaash " . soon he found his spouse cheating upon him

by meeting her ex lover and divorce took place within 6 months.

if anybody has same data of shani shukkr saathi grahs please refrain

from extramarital affairs and report here. u r free to post by

anonymous ids.

kulbir bains.

, " kulbirbains "

<kulbirbains wrote:

>

> Bhai kamaal ho gaya hamara naam bhi scholoron ki list me aa gaya.

> agar lalkitab ki kripa mujh jaise moodhmat par is tarh ho sakti

hai

> to intelligent banda to pata nahin isme kya paa le.

> khair. i am forwarding three kundalis.

> 1. sudhir sood; dob; 08-12-1969 tob 04:50am, chandigarh.

> 2. bunty; dob 07-12-1974 tob 21:00 chandigarh.

> 3. gurnam; dob 08-12-1970 tob o5:08am chandigarh.

> the distinctive factor is

> 1.in kundali no.1 ans 2 mangal rahu is in house no 5. both the

> natives lost their nephew.(1942 mangal-5). native no2 got his arm

> lost in an accident. native no 1 also had it broken and was

restored

> with prolonged medical and surgical cure.

> 2. in kundali no 1 and 3 shani is in no 7 and guru in no1. both

> couldn't complete degree level education nor any of their siblings

> or parents. both stared their career from a very low level but

> native no.1 is a multimillionare today but native no3 is

struggling

> to make both ends meet. i remember consulting their horoscopes

with

> shri umesh sharma about 4 or 5 years ago. umesh ji told both of

them

> to abstain from alchohol. native no.1 progressed phenomenoly in

> property business untill he abstained as soon as he took to

drinking

> troubles started. native no 3 continued and still drinks daily and

> is still in the same position. rather his problems complicated.

> kulbir bains.

> , " varun_trvd "

> <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kulbir Bhai,

> >

> > I agree with you.

> >

> > Any kundali brought to the group by any of the Lal Kitab

scholars

> > like Yog Raj ji, Nirmal ji, Pt.Lalkitabee ji, Umesh Sharma ji,

or

> > you will be discussed here.

> > Initially let us restrict it to the LK scholars only. If the

> > experiment is successful we could open this facility for every

> one.

> > Just lets see how it goes.

> >

> > With regards

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> > , kulbir bains

> > <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > >

> > > varun ji only one group of pt. bhooshanpriya

> is

> > catering to this demand in the true sense. please take some time

> off

> > and go through other groups and u will become aware of the havoc

> > created out there.

> > > regarding the problem of chaos, i have already stated that

> > moderators should have the final word on discussing any kundali

> > depending upon urgency of the native's problem or if it has any

> > technical issue involved.

> > > and the moderator should have the final word regarding

> > recommending upayas which come up from different members.

> > > aam ke aam ghuthlion ke daam. discussion ke liye points bhi

> > milenge aur members ki help bhi hoti rahegi.

> > > kulbir bains

> > >

> > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > > Dear Kulbir Bhai,

> > >

> > > I agree with your suggestion but with a slight reservation. We

> > will

> > > be very happy if you and Pt. Lalkitabee ji bring any kundali

to

> > the

> > > group for discussion. We know there will be educational value

in

> > > that discussion.

> > >

> > > But opening the group for discussing the kundalis of every one

> may

> > > not be advisable. There are already three Lal Kitab groups

> > catering

> > > to those who want their kundalis analyzed and seek remedies.

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> > >

> > > , " kulbirbains "

> > > <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear moderators,

> > > > i would like to bring to ur notice an issue that needs ur

> urgent

> > > > attention. i know this group bars individual kundali

> discussion.

> > > but and

> > > > incident forced me to bring some facts to ur kind notice.

some

> > > days back

> > > > i posted my data on lalkitab group for dr. kiranjit ji.

> although

> > i

> > > got

> > > > some valuable advise from bhatia ji but was shocked to see

my

> > mail

> > > box

> > > > flooded by persons offering various pujas, kalaps, yantras,

> > > offering

> > > > lalkitab remedies at a price i don't like to mention here.

> > what's

> > > more i

> > > > haven't ever heard of them in lalkitab circles or read any

of

> > their

> > > > message in any forums.

> > > > my humble submission are

> > > > 1. let the troubled persons file there problems here.

> > > > 2. let the moderators chose as to which kundali is to be

> > discussed.

> > > > 3. let the members give there views and in the end the

> > moderators

> > > select

> > > > which upayas suit most.

> > > > this will make discussions more lively and interesting plus

it

> > > would

> > > > promote the true lk spirit.

> > > > it's time to share some burden of bhooshan priya ji.

> > > > i know this is totally against the principles mentioned on

the

> > > openng

> > > > page of this group but change is an unchangeable truth.

baaki

> as

> > > said in

> > > > earlier message also i have earned the right to say anything

> > > unpleasent

> > > > or pleasent and get away with it. for others who want to

> > emaluate

> > > my

> > > > example please note it is not an easy way, i have received

my

> > > share of

> > > > thrashing from almost all the e gurus.

> > > > kulbir bains

> > > >

> > >

> > > Kulbir Bains

> > >

> > > The DELETE button on Mail is unhappy. Know why?

> > >

> >

>

June 23, 2007

Respected Kulbir Ji

I refer to your analysis of jupiter in no1 and shani in no7. It is

interesting what you say - my friends mother has this placement in

her chart also - however she has completed a double MA, her father

was a phd and her mother a BA. In addition to this her career

started at a high level but completely stopped at a young age. Her

marriage life however has been very bad, divorce took place, she

then got back together with her husband and then there was another

prolonged separation. She is still not happy with her married life -

I think this is the due to shani being in the 7th. Can you please go

on to tell me what the married life was like for natives 1 and 3?

Did both these natives also take part in many religious activities

with constant company of sadhus? Many thanks

Kindest regards

Sorabh Sharma

, " kulbirbains "

<kulbirbains wrote:

>

> native no.4 kulbir singh bains dob 15-02-1971, tob 08:50am,

> chandigarh.

> in this tewa shukra is in 10th house ; sahni is in 2nd house.

> thereby they become saathi grah. when shukr shani become saathi

> grahs and the native keeps a relation outside his marriage his or

> her spouse is bound to do the same and trouble is in store for

him,.

> the native was married in 1999 at that time he was what we

> call " sire ka aayaash " . soon he found his spouse cheating upon

him

> by meeting her ex lover and divorce took place within 6 months.

> if anybody has same data of shani shukkr saathi grahs please

refrain

> from extramarital affairs and report here. u r free to post by

> anonymous ids.

> kulbir bains.

>

> , " kulbirbains "

> <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> >

> > Bhai kamaal ho gaya hamara naam bhi scholoron ki list me aa

gaya.

> > agar lalkitab ki kripa mujh jaise moodhmat par is tarh ho sakti

> hai

> > to intelligent banda to pata nahin isme kya paa le.

> > khair. i am forwarding three kundalis.

> > 1. sudhir sood; dob; 08-12-1969 tob 04:50am, chandigarh.

> > 2. bunty; dob 07-12-1974 tob 21:00 chandigarh.

> > 3. gurnam; dob 08-12-1970 tob o5:08am chandigarh.

> > the distinctive factor is

> > 1.in kundali no.1 ans 2 mangal rahu is in house no 5. both the

> > natives lost their nephew.(1942 mangal-5). native no2 got his

arm

> > lost in an accident. native no 1 also had it broken and was

> restored

> > with prolonged medical and surgical cure.

> > 2. in kundali no 1 and 3 shani is in no 7 and guru in no1. both

> > couldn't complete degree level education nor any of their

siblings

> > or parents. both stared their career from a very low level but

> > native no.1 is a multimillionare today but native no3 is

> struggling

> > to make both ends meet. i remember consulting their horoscopes

> with

> > shri umesh sharma about 4 or 5 years ago. umesh ji told both of

> them

> > to abstain from alchohol. native no.1 progressed phenomenoly in

> > property business untill he abstained as soon as he took to

> drinking

> > troubles started. native no 3 continued and still drinks daily

and

> > is still in the same position. rather his problems complicated.

> > kulbir bains.

> > , " varun_trvd "

> > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > >

June 23, 2007

Dear Sorqbh,

plz confirm that husband was much fair than her?

Thanks

Regards

Umesh Sharma

, " mrsorabhsharma "

<mrsorabhsharma wrote:

>

> Respected Kulbir Ji

>

> I refer to your analysis of jupiter in no1 and shani in no7. It is

> interesting what you say - my friends mother has this placement in

> her chart also - however she has completed a double MA, her father

> was a phd and her mother a BA. In addition to this her career

> started at a high level but completely stopped at a young age. Her

> marriage life however has been very bad, divorce took place, she

> then got back together with her husband and then there was another

> prolonged separation. She is still not happy with her married life -

> I think this is the due to shani being in the 7th. Can you please

go

> on to tell me what the married life was like for natives 1 and 3?

> Did both these natives also take part in many religious activities

> with constant company of sadhus? Many thanks

>

> Kindest regards

> Sorabh Sharma

>

> , " kulbirbains "

> <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> >

> > native no.4 kulbir singh bains dob 15-02-1971, tob 08:50am,

> > chandigarh.

> > in this tewa shukra is in 10th house ; sahni is in 2nd house.

> > thereby they become saathi grah. when shukr shani become saathi

> > grahs and the native keeps a relation outside his marriage his or

> > her spouse is bound to do the same and trouble is in store for

> him,.

> > the native was married in 1999 at that time he was what we

> > call " sire ka aayaash " . soon he found his spouse cheating upon

> him

> > by meeting her ex lover and divorce took place within 6 months.

> > if anybody has same data of shani shukkr saathi grahs please

> refrain

> > from extramarital affairs and report here. u r free to post by

> > anonymous ids.

> > kulbir bains.

> >

> > , " kulbirbains "

> > <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhai kamaal ho gaya hamara naam bhi scholoron ki list me aa

> gaya.

> > > agar lalkitab ki kripa mujh jaise moodhmat par is tarh ho sakti

> > hai

> > > to intelligent banda to pata nahin isme kya paa le.

> > > khair. i am forwarding three kundalis.

> > > 1. sudhir sood; dob; 08-12-1969 tob 04:50am, chandigarh.

> > > 2. bunty; dob 07-12-1974 tob 21:00 chandigarh.

> > > 3. gurnam; dob 08-12-1970 tob o5:08am chandigarh.

> > > the distinctive factor is

> > > 1.in kundali no.1 ans 2 mangal rahu is in house no 5. both the

> > > natives lost their nephew.(1942 mangal-5). native no2 got his

> arm

> > > lost in an accident. native no 1 also had it broken and was

> > restored

> > > with prolonged medical and surgical cure.

> > > 2. in kundali no 1 and 3 shani is in no 7 and guru in no1. both

> > > couldn't complete degree level education nor any of their

> siblings

> > > or parents. both stared their career from a very low level but

> > > native no.1 is a multimillionare today but native no3 is

> > struggling

> > > to make both ends meet. i remember consulting their horoscopes

> > with

> > > shri umesh sharma about 4 or 5 years ago. umesh ji told both of

> > them

> > > to abstain from alchohol. native no.1 progressed phenomenoly in

> > > property business untill he abstained as soon as he took to

> > drinking

> > > troubles started. native no 3 continued and still drinks daily

> and

> > > is still in the same position. rather his problems complicated.

> > > kulbir bains.

> > > , " varun_trvd "

> > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > > >

>

June 23, 2007

sorabh ji poora data bhej do dasrusti check par lete hain.

yes it is true both of them have trouble with their spouses. divorce

bas sirf is karan se nahin hua ki unki wives garib parivar ko belong

karti hain unqualified hain isliye unke paas saath rahne ke ilawa

koi aur chara hi nahin tha.

kulbir bains

, " mrsorabhsharma "

<mrsorabhsharma wrote:

>

> Respected Kulbir Ji

>

> I refer to your analysis of jupiter in no1 and shani in no7. It is

> interesting what you say - my friends mother has this placement in

> her chart also - however she has completed a double MA, her father

> was a phd and her mother a BA. In addition to this her career

> started at a high level but completely stopped at a young age. Her

> marriage life however has been very bad, divorce took place, she

> then got back together with her husband and then there was another

> prolonged separation. She is still not happy with her married

life -

> I think this is the due to shani being in the 7th. Can you please

go

> on to tell me what the married life was like for natives 1 and 3?

> Did both these natives also take part in many religious activities

> with constant company of sadhus? Many thanks

>

> Kindest regards

> Sorabh Sharma

>

> , " kulbirbains "

> <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> >

> > native no.4 kulbir singh bains dob 15-02-1971, tob 08:50am,

> > chandigarh.

> > in this tewa shukra is in 10th house ; sahni is in 2nd house.

> > thereby they become saathi grah. when shukr shani become saathi

> > grahs and the native keeps a relation outside his marriage his

or

> > her spouse is bound to do the same and trouble is in store for

> him,.

> > the native was married in 1999 at that time he was what we

> > call " sire ka aayaash " . soon he found his spouse cheating upon

> him

> > by meeting her ex lover and divorce took place within 6 months.

> > if anybody has same data of shani shukkr saathi grahs please

> refrain

> > from extramarital affairs and report here. u r free to post by

> > anonymous ids.

> > kulbir bains.

> >

> > , " kulbirbains "

> > <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhai kamaal ho gaya hamara naam bhi scholoron ki list me aa

> gaya.

> > > agar lalkitab ki kripa mujh jaise moodhmat par is tarh ho

sakti

> > hai

> > > to intelligent banda to pata nahin isme kya paa le.

> > > khair. i am forwarding three kundalis.

> > > 1. sudhir sood; dob; 08-12-1969 tob 04:50am, chandigarh.

> > > 2. bunty; dob 07-12-1974 tob 21:00 chandigarh.

> > > 3. gurnam; dob 08-12-1970 tob o5:08am chandigarh.

> > > the distinctive factor is

> > > 1.in kundali no.1 ans 2 mangal rahu is in house no 5. both the

> > > natives lost their nephew.(1942 mangal-5). native no2 got his

> arm

> > > lost in an accident. native no 1 also had it broken and was

> > restored

> > > with prolonged medical and surgical cure.

> > > 2. in kundali no 1 and 3 shani is in no 7 and guru in no1.

both

> > > couldn't complete degree level education nor any of their

> siblings

> > > or parents. both stared their career from a very low level but

> > > native no.1 is a multimillionare today but native no3 is

> > struggling

> > > to make both ends meet. i remember consulting their horoscopes

> > with

> > > shri umesh sharma about 4 or 5 years ago. umesh ji told both

of

> > them

> > > to abstain from alchohol. native no.1 progressed phenomenoly

in

> > > property business untill he abstained as soon as he took to

> > drinking

> > > troubles started. native no 3 continued and still drinks daily

> and

> > > is still in the same position. rather his problems complicated.

> > > kulbir bains.

> > > , " varun_trvd "

> > > <varun_trvd@> wrote:

> > > >

>

June 23, 2007

yes both of them are very much fond of sadhu sants and often go out

of their way to help religious people.