Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 Dear Dionisis ji, Yes it is true that the planets in the 8th house do make an impact on the 2nd house. It is said that if the 8th house is unoccupied , then the planets placed in the 2nd will give good results { " khana 8 agar khali ho to khana 2 ummda hoga}. The planets in the 8th may not necessarily destroy the effect of the planets in the 2nd house, but yes they could adversely effect them. Burying is an extreme step and should be taken very rarely. The best way out is to distance the planet by immersing its karak object into a river. Once buried the planet can not be retrieved for that year, where as if distanced it can be retrieved. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " Äéïíýóçò " <mprgrandmaster wrote: > > Dear respected members, > According to Lal Kitab, a planet is the 8th house shall destroy the effects of the planets in the second houses, no matter what planets they are.IS my understranding correct? > If it is right, when there is a planet in the second house and another in the eight house, maybe it is right to " burry " tyhe latter, right? > Please,give your views > Regards, > Dionisis > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 Dear Varun ji, Distancing is what I though at first but I think it might not be a very good solution. As I am a beginner in this field, kindly explain whether and why my thoughts on this are right. I think that distancing is mainly for distancing the malefic effects of a planet, i.e. when there is a malefic planet we immerse it in water so the bad effects are removed but the good ones remain,right? But , in the case of the 8th house, the planets therein will harm the planets in the 2d house , irrespective of them beings friends or enemies. As a result, even if the maleficent of the planet in the 8th house will be removed through the water, it will still harm the planets in the second house, right?While, if the planet in the 8th is completely removed by burying , it will be as if the 8th house was vacant and the planets in the second shall flourish.I still believe burying would not be used , but in extremely rare cases. Still, there is another solution I can think for such a case except fro burying and moving the planet in the 8th in another house (maybe to the second house?). Regards, Dionisis , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd wrote:>> Dear Dionisis ji,> > Yes it is true that the planets in the 8th house do make an impact> on the 2nd house. It is said that if the 8th house is unoccupied ,> then the planets placed in the 2nd will give good results {" khana 8> agar khali ho to khana 2 ummda hoga}. The planets in the 8th may not> necessarily destroy the effect of the planets in the 2nd house, but> yes they could adversely effect them.> > Burying is an extreme step and should be taken very rarely. The best> way out is to distance the planet by immersing its karak object into> a river. Once buried the planet can not be retrieved for that year,> where as if distanced it can be retrieved.> > Regards,> > Varun Trivedi> > > > , "Äéïíýóçò"> <mprgrandmaster@> wrote:> >> > Dear respected members,> > According to Lal Kitab, a planet is the 8th house shall destroy> the effects of the planets in the second houses, no matter what> planets they are.IS my understranding correct?> > If it is right, when there is a planet in the second house and> another in the eight house, maybe it is right to "burry" tyhe> latter, right?> > Please,give your views> > Regards,> > Dionisis> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 Dear Dionisis ji, Immersing a karak object in the flowing water distances the entire planet along with its benefic and malefic effects. It is not true that only the malefic effects are distanced. Therefore distancing is always a better option as to burying in a barren place. Regards, Chandra Prakash , " Ä©ï½ó§²¦quot; <mprgrandmaster wrote: > > Dear Varun ji, > Distancing is what I though at first but I think it might not be a very good solution. As I am a beginner in this field, kindly explain whether and why my thoughts on this are right. > I think that distancing is mainly for distancing the malefic effects of a planet, i.e. when there is a malefic planet we immerse it in water so the bad effects are removed but the good ones remain,right? But , in the case of the 8th house, the planets therein will harm the planets in the 2d house , irrespective of them beings friends or enemies. As a result, even if the maleficent of the planet in the 8th house will be removed through the water, it will still harm the planets in the second house, right?While, if the planet in the 8th is completely removed by burying , it will be as if the 8th house was vacant and the planets in the second shall flourish.I still believe burying would not be used , but in extremely rare cases. Still, there is another solution I can think for such a case except fro burying and moving the planet in the 8th in another house (maybe to the second house?). > Regards, > Dionisis > > , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > Dear Dionisis ji, > > > > Yes it is true that the planets in the 8th house do make an impact > > on the 2nd house. It is said that if the 8th house is unoccupied , > > then the planets placed in the 2nd will give good results { " khana 8 > > agar khali ho to khana 2 ummda hoga}. The planets in the 8th may not > > necessarily destroy the effect of the planets in the 2nd house, but > > yes they could adversely effect them. > > > > Burying is an extreme step and should be taken very rarely. The best > > way out is to distance the planet by immersing its karak object into > > a river. Once buried the planet can not be retrieved for that year, > > where as if distanced it can be retrieved. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > , " Aeiiyoco " > > <mprgrandmaster@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear respected members, > > > According to Lal Kitab, a planet is the 8th house shall destroy > > the effects of the planets in the second houses, no matter what > > planets they are.IS my understranding correct? > > > If it is right, when there is a planet in the second house and > > another in the eight house, maybe it is right to " burry " tyhe > > latter, right? > > > Please,give your views > > > Regards, > > > Dionisis > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 Dear Chandra ji, I am sorry but I am a bit confused.Below is a part of what you said about immersing vs burrying earlier: " Gifting a karak object of a planet in a temple { shelter of God } or immersing it in flowing water { handing it over to the Moon the mother of planets } results in â?? grah nek asar de ya na de lekin manda asar nahi degaâ?? â?¦ the planet may or may not give benefic result but it will not give malefic results. That means there is always a possibility, but not a certainty, that it might give benefic results. But what is certain is that it will refrain from giving malefic results. Where as burying a karak object of a planet makes it certain that it will not give any results, good or bad. After gifting at a temple or immersing in flowing water there is always a possibility of retrieving a planet if necessary, where as after burying even that possibility is ruled out. " Messege#247 So,doen't it mean that immersing distances mainly the malefic effects, but does not remove the planet completely? If both upayas removed the planet copletely, when is burying prefered to immersing in running water? Again, sorry for the confusioon. Regards, Dionisis , " cptyagi2007 " <cptyagi2007 wrote: > > Dear Dionisis ji, > > Immersing a karak object in the flowing water distances the entire > planet along with its benefic and malefic effects. It is not true > that only the malefic effects are distanced. > Therefore distancing is always a better option as to burying in a > barren place. > > Regards, > > Chandra Prakash > > , " Ä©ï½ó§²¦quot; > <mprgrandmaster@> wrote: > > > > Dear Varun ji, > > Distancing is what I though at first but I think it might not be a > very good solution. As I am a beginner in this field, kindly explain > whether and why my thoughts on this are right. > > I think that distancing is mainly for distancing the malefic > effects of a planet, i.e. when there is a malefic planet we immerse > it in water so the bad effects are removed but the good ones > remain,right? But , in the case of the 8th house, the planets > therein will harm the planets in the 2d house , irrespective of them > beings friends or enemies. As a result, even if the maleficent of > the planet in the 8th house will be removed through the water, it > will still harm the planets in the second house, right?While, if the > planet in the 8th is completely removed by burying , it will be as > if the 8th house was vacant and the planets in the second shall > flourish.I still believe burying would not be used , but in > extremely rare cases. Still, there is another solution I can think > for such a case except fro burying and moving the planet in the 8th > in another house (maybe to the second house?). > > Regards, > > Dionisis > > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Dionisis ji, > > > > > > Yes it is true that the planets in the 8th house do make an > impact > > > on the 2nd house. It is said that if the 8th house is > unoccupied , > > > then the planets placed in the 2nd will give good results { " > khana 8 > > > agar khali ho to khana 2 ummda hoga}. The planets in the 8th may > not > > > necessarily destroy the effect of the planets in the 2nd house, > but > > > yes they could adversely effect them. > > > > > > Burying is an extreme step and should be taken very rarely. The > best > > > way out is to distance the planet by immersing its karak object > into > > > a river. Once buried the planet can not be retrieved for that > year, > > > where as if distanced it can be retrieved. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Aeiiyoco " > > > <mprgrandmaster@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear respected members, > > > > According to Lal Kitab, a planet is the 8th house shall destroy > > > the effects of the planets in the second houses, no matter what > > > planets they are.IS my understranding correct? > > > > If it is right, when there is a planet in the second house and > > > another in the eight house, maybe it is right to " burry " tyhe > > > latter, right? > > > > Please,give your views > > > > Regards, > > > > Dionisis > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Dear Dionisis ji, When we immerse a karak object in flowing water, there could be a possibility that the planet might give benefic results. It is just a possibility and not a certainity. A karak object is buried only when we are absolutely certain that the planet will not have to be retrieved at all for the entire year. If we have a slight doubt that the planet may have to be retrieved later at some stage, then we should always choose immersing. Suppose you have buried a karak object and you start getting some adverse effects, then there is no going back. You can not do any thing to ractify the mistake. Where as if the object is immersed it can always be retrieved if there are any adverse effects. Therefore as a precaution also one should only immerse the objects rather than bury them. With regards, Chandra Prakash , " sahajagr19 " <mprgrandmaster wrote: > > Dear Chandra ji, > I am sorry but I am a bit confused.Below is a part of what you said > about immersing vs burrying earlier: " > Gifting a karak object of a planet in a temple { shelter of God } or > immersing it in flowing water { handing it over to the Moon the > mother of planets } results in â¿¿ grah nek asar de ya na de lekin > manda asar nahi degaâ¿¿ ⿦ the planet may or may not give benefic > result but it will not give malefic results. That means there is > always a possibility, but not a certainty, that it might give > benefic results. But what is certain is that it will refrain from > giving malefic results. > > Where as burying a karak object of a planet makes it certain that it > will not give any results, good or bad. > > After gifting at a temple or immersing in flowing water there is > always a possibility of retrieving a planet if necessary, where as > after burying even that possibility is ruled out. " Messege#247 > So,doen't it mean that immersing distances mainly the malefic effects, > but does not remove the planet completely? > If both upayas removed the planet copletely, when is burying prefered > to immersing in running water? > Again, sorry for the confusioon. > Regards, > Dionisis > > , " cptyagi2007 " > <cptyagi2007@> wrote: > > > > Dear Dionisis ji, > > > > Immersing a karak object in the flowing water distances the entire > > planet along with its benefic and malefic effects. It is not true > > that only the malefic effects are distanced. > > Therefore distancing is always a better option as to burying in a > > barren place. > > > > Regards, > > > > Chandra Prakash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Ä©ï½ó§²¦quot; > > <mprgrandmaster@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Varun ji, > > > Distancing is what I though at first but I think it might not be a > > very good solution. As I am a beginner in this field, kindly explain > > whether and why my thoughts on this are right. > > > I think that distancing is mainly for distancing the malefic > > effects of a planet, i.e. when there is a malefic planet we immerse > > it in water so the bad effects are removed but the good ones > > remain,right? But , in the case of the 8th house, the planets > > therein will harm the planets in the 2d house , irrespective of them > > beings friends or enemies. As a result, even if the maleficent of > > the planet in the 8th house will be removed through the water, it > > will still harm the planets in the second house, right?While, if the > > planet in the 8th is completely removed by burying , it will be as > > if the 8th house was vacant and the planets in the second shall > > flourish.I still believe burying would not be used , but in > > extremely rare cases. Still, there is another solution I can think > > for such a case except fro burying and moving the planet in the 8th > > in another house (maybe to the second house?). > > > Regards, > > > Dionisis > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Dionisis ji, > > > > > > > > Yes it is true that the planets in the 8th house do make an > > impact > > > > on the 2nd house. It is said that if the 8th house is > > unoccupied , > > > > then the planets placed in the 2nd will give good results { " > > khana 8 > > > > agar khali ho to khana 2 ummda hoga}. The planets in the 8th may > > not > > > > necessarily destroy the effect of the planets in the 2nd house, > > but > > > > yes they could adversely effect them. > > > > > > > > Burying is an extreme step and should be taken very rarely. The > > best > > > > way out is to distance the planet by immersing its karak object > > into > > > > a river. Once buried the planet can not be retrieved for that > > year, > > > > where as if distanced it can be retrieved. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Aeiiyoco " > > > > <mprgrandmaster@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear respected members, > > > > > According to Lal Kitab, a planet is the 8th house shall destroy > > > > the effects of the planets in the second houses, no matter what > > > > planets they are.IS my understranding correct? > > > > > If it is right, when there is a planet in the second house and > > > > another in the eight house, maybe it is right to " burry " tyhe > > > > latter, right? > > > > > Please,give your views > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Dionisis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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