Budh + Ketu Upaya

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Respected Sir,

 

After an interesting discusion about " BIRRI " I looked up the Budh +

ketu combination in Arun Sanhita.

 

The upaya given for this yog is ' chandra ka upaya sahayata karega'

and later it says ' mangal ka upaya sahayak hoga'.

 

Sir can some one explain why these two different upaya ?

 

Respectfully,

 

Roopak Rastogi

[Guest guest]

Respected Acharya Shukla ji,

 

SIMPLY BRILLIANT !!

 

In most cases the Lal Kitab practioners do not go into such great

detail. You have, through your excercise on Budh + ketu, proved that

one needs to go much deeper into the masnuyee components to devise

the correct upaya.

I loved your simile of the fire in a house to drive home a very

important point. Yes it is true that instead of searching the source

of fire, its cause, and ways to extinguish it,the normal tandency is

to dip the whole house into water.

 

With respect and regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " lalkitabee "

<lalkitabee wrote:

>

>

> Respected Rastogi Ji

>

> Yes there is written in lalkitab as u say. In my opinion no word is

> waste or illogical in this chapter of budh ketu.Im trying to solve

ur

> querry as below im using colors to show available masnuyee part or

> effect of partia masnuyee planet:-

>

> Rastogi ji Varun ji has really explained a methodological &

> systematic approach with mashnuyee concept of lalkitab BUDH+ kETU=

> GURU+RAHU+KETU ,after that 2nd masnuyee part (RAHU) of budh

devided &

> murged to KETU to show

>

>

> GURU+(RAHU+KETU)=GURU+SHUKRA = SHANI ( KETU SWABHAV.)

>

> Now i want to say that in my opinion it has more broad vision with

> masnuyee contents in the chapter of budh+ketu. Im trying to

resolve ur

> doubt about remedies. U can read qoutes from lalkitab in red color

& my

> opinion in Blue

>

> 1.JAB MANGAL NO. 12 HO TO BUDH VA KETU KA NO. - 1 AUR 8 PAR BURAA

ASAR

> NA HOGA, KHWAH VO KAISE HEE AUR KISI TARAH (JUDA JUDA YA MUSHTARKAA

> BAITHEY HON)

>

> Here Pujya pandit ji wrote about mars of 12th & as wel as saying

khana

> no. 1st & 8th never bcome bad if Mars would be posited in 12th in a

> horoscope having budh+ketu combination. Now question is y pandit

ji told

> about mars 12 & khana no. 1st & 8th. Here shud remember that ketu

has

> two types of masnuyee. (1) SHUKRA + SHANI = UNCH KETU (2) CHANDRA +

> SHANI = NEECH KETU.THE CHAPTER STARTS WITH BUDH KETU ,So ---

>

> (i)BUDH + KETU = BUDH + SHUKRA + SHANI (Here bold portion is the

> masnuyee planets of unch ketu)

>

> (ii) BUDH + SHUKRA +SHANI = SOORAJ + SHANI (Here the shukra ,the

1st

> half of masnuyee portion has concerned to budh & now budh +

shukra =

> sooraj ,that is y i wrote sooraj + shani ) U know that suraj is

owner of

> pakka ghar no. 1 & shani is owner of pakka ghar no.8 ,Rahu is

agent of

> saturn & enemy of sun.So it can harm both places.But its pakka

ghar is

> 12th khana. If Mangal will be there ,Rahu can not harm from

anywhere if

> combination of budh ketu will be in horoscope. Mangal is Mahavat &

> controlls elephant (Rahu) from height of elephant.Mangal in 12

means

> Mahavat in sky or at elephant. SO IN MY OPINION KHANA NO. 1ST &

8TH CANT

> BE BAD WITH BUDH KETU COMBINATION DUE TO 12TH MANGAL.

>

> 2. MANGAL KA UPAY MADADGAR

>

HOGA.................................................................

....\

> ...... ladke barbaad hone lagain.

>

> Once we have known to BUDH + SHUKRA +SHANI = SOORAJ + SHANI.

> Now again see if Mangal will be out of 12th then mangal ka upay

kiyaa

> jayegaa. Bcoz SOORAJ + SHANI= Mangal Bad. ( i mean to say

that :-

> budh ki aadhi umra hone par khana no.1 aur 8 ke saath hi mande

budh ki

> nishaniyaan bhi jahir hone lagengi. Then remedy for mars is valid

remedy

>

> 3. no. 3,4,8 main se kisi ek main

>

shukra...............................................................

....\

> ...........kuttey ki dum hoga.

>

> Now again see that y the shukra is important in this chapter &

Pandit ji

> wrote the remedy of chandra.How it is logical.

>

> In my opinion here we have to see masnuyee of both ,budh & NEECH

ketu

> one by one.

>

> BUDH + KETU (neech halat) = guru +rahu + Ketu . Here last

half

> masnuyee of budh & ketu will be treated as masnuyee of shukra.It

means

> if shukra will be placed in khanaa no. 3(pakka ghar budh ka),

khana n0

> 4 (pakkaa ghar chandra ka) & 8th (shani pakka ghar), then posited

budh

> ketu will react its mixed effect of bad shukra. How? see mashnuyee

> " rahu+ketu = shukra " .

>

> At next step again look at masnuyee as BUDH + KETU = BUDH +

chandra +

> shani. here u can see that the all three of this combination r

owner

> of khana no. 3 ,4, 8. If shukraa will be posited in 3,4,8 .The

Moon

> will be most effected. Bcoz shukra in 3rd will boost budh ,in 4th

will

> spoil moon due to DUSHMANI. in 8th will boost ketu's mashnuyee

saturn

> part & over all moon will be effected. So Pandit ji told chandra

ka upay

> madadagaar hoga. According to my opinion if shukra might be in

3rd then

> we shud try to apease moon part of neech ketu & if shukra might be

in

> 4th then we shud strenthen moon by establishing rice.

>

> 8th then we shud try to save & moov moon part of ketu.

>

> In this way Pujya Pandit ji many of times not described so much.

But it

> is the subject of analyzation to choose proper remedy in all

> combinations. So much criterias r there ,we have to pay time &

energy

> to resolve & desolve problems & doubts at the ground of all

observations

> & researches . Otherwise Ghar ke ek kone main lagi aag ko

bujhaane ke

> liye pooraa ghar hi paani main dubo denaa kitnaa munasib hogaa, yeh

> karnaa kitnaa thik hogaa? Jabki honaa to chahiye ki pataa lagaayaa

jaye

> ki aag kis hissey main hai aur aag lagne kaa karan kyaa hai aur use

> bujhaane ke liye kyaa cheez kis tareeke se istemaal kee jaaye.

Maslan

> agar aag bijlee se lagi ho to paani se bujhaanaa thik nahee

hogaa,aur

> agar chemical se lagi ho to us par Kambal nahi daalaa ja saktaa.

Thik

> isi tarike se budh ketu ke silsile main mangal aur chandra dono ka

hee

> upay kar denaa thik nahee hogaa. As wel as in all other aspects of

> analyzations & remedies ,my opinion is same.

>

> anx Varun Ji ur mail helped me to collect

strings

> of formula . Still knowledge is limitless but we have

limitations. So

> if I described any wrong view,i request to learned persons to

moove

> proper steps in lalkitab research.

>

> With Regards

>

> Lalkitabee V.K.Shukla

>

> , " roopak.rastogi "

> <roopak.rastogi@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Sir,

> >

> > After an interesting discusion about " BIRRI " I looked up the

Budh +

> > ketu combination in Arun Sanhita.

> >

> > The upaya given for this yog is ' chandra ka upaya sahayata

karega'

> > and later it says ' mangal ka upaya sahayak hoga'.

> >

> > Sir can some one explain why these two different upaya ?

> >

> > Respectfully,

> >

> > Roopak Rastogi

> >

>