Guest guest Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Dear Jeetu As far as my knowledge is when two planets occupy each others enemy house like moon in saturns house and saturn in moons house - it is neutralised. They both give benefic results (it is best to confirm this with the senior members)- in addition to this saturn in the 10th house is not always a benefic. It is doubtful. Regards Sorabh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2007 Report Share Posted April 28, 2007 naveen ji; consider saturn to be iron, moon as dhar(sharp edge); so hathyar ki dhar is the best description for this combination. saturn and moon also form masnui or artficial ketu. kulbir bains - -- In , " mail2aggarwal " <aggarwal.naveen wrote: > > Respected Kulbir ji > > I have a similiar kind of question. > > As per my knowledge Saturn + Moon conjuction in any house is > considered bad. > > Let me state some scenario. 4th house is the MATA sthan where Moon > gives very good result. In the same way, in 10th house, saturn gives > very good result. If suppose, saturn is in 4th house and Moon is in 10 > house, will this conbination be called as bad? > > Moon in the 10th house will ensure long life of native however Saturn > in 4th will deprive native from Sukh. > > I know certain remedies for it. I just want to confirm if I am on the > right path. > > 1) Pouring 4 kg of Milk on every birthday in well. > > 2) Pouring 4 bottles of liquor in flowing water on every birthday. > 3) Pouring 50 ml of liquor on muddy floor for 43 days. > 4) Putting 200 gms of Sarson ke Dhana in earthened pot and burying it > in barren place. > 5) Filling Ganga Jal in silver glass, put square piece of silver and > keep it in house. > 6) Keeping honey in round silver box. > 7) Keeping rice washed with milk in round silver box. > > Your thoughts on it. > > Regards > NA > > , " kulbirbains " > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > Sir, i would like to point out a peculiar situation here and that is > > when moon (as in this case) or sun occupies the 9th house, it > > aspects the fifth house which is an exception to the general rules > > of aspects as per LK. for further discussion i think the moderator > > as already made it clear that u will have to study urself and come > > up with a detailed statement as per ur apprehensions or doubts so > > instead of a generalised statement ask for something specific to be > > discussed. > > kulbir bains - > > -- In , " hii_tell_me " > > <hii_tell_me@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected all gurujans(Priya ji,kulbir ji,lalkitabee ji & other > > > respected members) > > > > > > 1)Its my request to pls discuss the effects of saturn+moon > > > combination in the 9th house.PLs discuss its remedies also. > > > > > > > > > 2) wht does lal kitab say about saturn+moon combination.is it good > > or > > > bad. > > > > > > > > > 3) Is there any other permant remedy except from lunar eclipse > > upaya. > > > > > > 4) Some astrolger has written that there can be loss of eye sight > > > also.is it so? > > > > > > > > > Thanx & Regards > > > > > > jeetu > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Dear Kulbir Ji, Since as per you, this type of combination forms KETU so do you think that in such scenarios one should perform the remedies for Ketu which are stated below. 1) Donate 3 banana in temple for 43 days. 2) Wear yellow thread/ Gold chain around the neck. 3) Donating White Dhoti with black border to young pandit continiously for 9 weeks. 4) Donating black and white blanket in temple for 4 days. 5) Installing triangular flag on the top of the mandir for 43 days. Also let me know, performing under mentioned remedies will give any result or not. Regards NA , " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains wrote: > > naveen ji; consider saturn to be iron, moon as dhar(sharp edge); so > hathyar ki dhar is the best description for this combination. saturn > and moon also form masnui or artficial ketu. > kulbir bains - > -- In , " mail2aggarwal " > <aggarwal.naveen@> wrote: > > > > Respected Kulbir ji > > > > I have a similiar kind of question. > > > > As per my knowledge Saturn + Moon conjuction in any house is > > considered bad. > > > > Let me state some scenario. 4th house is the MATA sthan where Moon > > gives very good result. In the same way, in 10th house, saturn > gives > > very good result. If suppose, saturn is in 4th house and Moon is > in 10 > > house, will this conbination be called as bad? > > > > Moon in the 10th house will ensure long life of native however > Saturn > > in 4th will deprive native from Sukh. > > > > I know certain remedies for it. I just want to confirm if I am on > the > > right path. > > > > 1) Pouring 4 kg of Milk on every birthday in well. > > > > 2) Pouring 4 bottles of liquor in flowing water on every birthday. > > 3) Pouring 50 ml of liquor on muddy floor for 43 days. > > 4) Putting 200 gms of Sarson ke Dhana in earthened pot and burying > it > > in barren place. > > 5) Filling Ganga Jal in silver glass, put square piece of silver > and > > keep it in house. > > 6) Keeping honey in round silver box. > > 7) Keeping rice washed with milk in round silver box. > > > > Your thoughts on it. > > > > Regards > > NA > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > Sir, i would like to point out a peculiar situation here and > that is > > > when moon (as in this case) or sun occupies the 9th house, it > > > aspects the fifth house which is an exception to the general > rules > > > of aspects as per LK. for further discussion i think the > moderator > > > as already made it clear that u will have to study urself and > come > > > up with a detailed statement as per ur apprehensions or doubts so > > > instead of a generalised statement ask for something specific to > be > > > discussed. > > > kulbir > bains - > > > -- In , " hii_tell_me " > > > <hii_tell_me@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected all gurujans(Priya ji,kulbir ji,lalkitabee ji & other > > > > respected members) > > > > > > > > 1)Its my request to pls discuss the effects of saturn+moon > > > > combination in the 9th house.PLs discuss its remedies also. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) wht does lal kitab say about saturn+moon combination.is it > good > > > or > > > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Is there any other permant remedy except from lunar eclipse > > > upaya. > > > > > > > > 4) Some astrolger has written that there can be loss of eye > sight > > > > also.is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx & Regards > > > > > > > > jeetu > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Dear Aggarwal Saheb, Kulbir ji would be responding to your main query. I just wanted to request you not to keep on mentioning the upaya which you seem to have picked up from some baazar book. There is no such thing as general upaya for any planet except what Pandit ji has mentioned on page # 154 of 1952ed. For Ketu Pandit ji has mentioned just one general upaya " kutton ko rotian daalen " . Now see for yourself this upaya is not mentioned in your list. Therefore whenever you post a message do not mention such upaya because they might give a very wrong impression about the Lal Kitab. The kind of list of upaya you keep mentioning doesn't exist in Lal Kitab. With regards, Chandra Prakash , " mail2aggarwal " <aggarwal.naveen wrote: > > Dear Kulbir Ji, > > Since as per you, this type of combination forms KETU so do you think > that in such scenarios one should perform the remedies for Ketu which > are stated below. > > 1) Donate 3 banana in temple for 43 days. > 2) Wear yellow thread/ Gold chain around the neck. > 3) Donating White Dhoti with black border to young pandit continiously > for 9 weeks. > 4) Donating black and white blanket in temple for 4 days. > 5) Installing triangular flag on the top of the mandir for 43 days. > > Also let me know, performing under mentioned remedies will give any > result or not. > > Regards > NA > > , " kulbirbains " > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > naveen ji; consider saturn to be iron, moon as dhar(sharp edge); so > > hathyar ki dhar is the best description for this combination. saturn > > and moon also form masnui or artficial ketu. > > kulbir bains - > > -- In , " mail2aggarwal " > > <aggarwal.naveen@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Kulbir ji > > > > > > I have a similiar kind of question. > > > > > > As per my knowledge Saturn + Moon conjuction in any house is > > > considered bad. > > > > > > Let me state some scenario. 4th house is the MATA sthan where Moon > > > gives very good result. In the same way, in 10th house, saturn > > gives > > > very good result. If suppose, saturn is in 4th house and Moon is > > in 10 > > > house, will this conbination be called as bad? > > > > > > Moon in the 10th house will ensure long life of native however > > Saturn > > > in 4th will deprive native from Sukh. > > > > > > I know certain remedies for it. I just want to confirm if I am on > > the > > > right path. > > > > > > 1) Pouring 4 kg of Milk on every birthday in well. > > > > > > 2) Pouring 4 bottles of liquor in flowing water on every birthday. > > > 3) Pouring 50 ml of liquor on muddy floor for 43 days. > > > 4) Putting 200 gms of Sarson ke Dhana in earthened pot and burying > > it > > > in barren place. > > > 5) Filling Ganga Jal in silver glass, put square piece of silver > > and > > > keep it in house. > > > 6) Keeping honey in round silver box. > > > 7) Keeping rice washed with milk in round silver box. > > > > > > Your thoughts on it. > > > > > > Regards > > > NA > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir, i would like to point out a peculiar situation here and > > that is > > > > when moon (as in this case) or sun occupies the 9th house, it > > > > aspects the fifth house which is an exception to the general > > rules > > > > of aspects as per LK. for further discussion i think the > > moderator > > > > as already made it clear that u will have to study urself and > > come > > > > up with a detailed statement as per ur apprehensions or doubts so > > > > instead of a generalised statement ask for something specific to > > be > > > > discussed. > > > > kulbir > > bains - > > > > -- In , " hii_tell_me " > > > > <hii_tell_me@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected all gurujans(Priya ji,kulbir ji,lalkitabee ji & other > > > > > respected members) > > > > > > > > > > 1)Its my request to pls discuss the effects of saturn+moon > > > > > combination in the 9th house.PLs discuss its remedies also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) wht does lal kitab say about saturn+moon combination.is it > > good > > > > or > > > > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Is there any other permant remedy except from lunar eclipse > > > > upaya. > > > > > > > > > > 4) Some astrolger has written that there can be loss of eye > > sight > > > > > also.is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx & Regards > > > > > > > > > > jeetu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 Absolutely not; the principle is that when ketu is malefic we can take one msnui part out i.e. shani or chandra depending on placement of ketu not the other way around. kulbir bainsmail2aggarwal <aggarwal.naveen wrote: Dear Kulbir Ji,Since as per you, this type of combination forms KETU so do you thinkthat in such scenarios one should perform the remedies for Ketu whichare stated below.1) Donate 3 banana in temple for 43 days.2) Wear yellow thread/ Gold chain around the neck.3) Donating White Dhoti with black border to young pandit continiouslyfor 9 weeks.4) Donating black and white blanket in temple for 4 days.5) Installing triangular flag on the top of the mandir for 43 days.Also let me know, performing under mentioned remedies will give anyresult or not.RegardsNA , "kulbirbains"<kulbirbains wrote:>> naveen ji; consider saturn to be iron, moon as dhar(sharp edge); so > hathyar ki dhar is the best description for this combination. saturn > and moon also form masnui or artficial ketu.> kulbir bains -> -- In , "mail2aggarwal" > <aggarwal.naveen@> wrote:> >> > Respected Kulbir ji> > > > I have a similiar kind of question.> > > > As per my knowledge Saturn + Moon conjuction in any house is> > considered bad.> > > > Let me state some scenario. 4th house is the MATA sthan where Moon> > gives very good result. In the same way, in 10th house, saturn > gives> > very good result. If suppose, saturn is in 4th house and Moon is > in 10> > house, will this conbination be called as bad?> > > > Moon in the 10th house will ensure long life of native however > Saturn> > in 4th will deprive native from Sukh.> > > > I know certain remedies for it. I just want to confirm if I am on > the> > right path.> > > > 1) Pouring 4 kg of Milk on every birthday in well.> > > > 2) Pouring 4 bottles of liquor in flowing water on every birthday.> > 3) Pouring 50 ml of liquor on muddy floor for 43 days.> > 4) Putting 200 gms of Sarson ke Dhana in earthened pot and burying > it> > in barren place.> > 5) Filling Ganga Jal in silver glass, put square piece of silver > and> > keep it in house.> > 6) Keeping honey in round silver box.> > 7) Keeping rice washed with milk in round silver box.> > > > Your thoughts on it.> > > > Regards> > NA> > > > , "kulbirbains"> > <kulbirbains@> wrote:> > >> > > Sir, i would like to point out a peculiar situation here and > that is> > > when moon (as in this case) or sun occupies the 9th house, it> > > aspects the fifth house which is an exception to the general > rules> > > of aspects as per LK. for further discussion i think the > moderator> > > as already made it clear that u will have to study urself and > come> > > up with a detailed statement as per ur apprehensions or doubts so> > > instead of a generalised statement ask for something specific to > be> > > discussed.> > > kulbir > bains -> > > -- In , "hii_tell_me"> > > <hii_tell_me@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Respected all gurujans(Priya ji,kulbir ji,lalkitabee ji & other> > > > respected members)> > > >> > > > 1)Its my request to pls discuss the effects of saturn+moon> > > > combination in the 9th house.PLs discuss its remedies also.> > > >> > > >> > > > 2) wht does lal kitab say about saturn+moon combination.is it > good> > > or> > > > bad.> > > >> > > >> > > > 3) Is there any other permant remedy except from lunar eclipse> > > upaya.> > > >> > > > 4) Some astrolger has written that there can be loss of eye > sight> > > > also.is it so?> > > >> > > >> > > > Thanx & Regards> > > >> > > > jeetu> > > >> > >> >> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2007 Report Share Posted April 30, 2007 naveen ji , tyagi sahib is correct by word by word. this message should be taken into account by all the learners. now talking about masnui planet as in this case ketu. when ketu is placed malefic in akundali we divide it into 2 parts moon and saturn and depending upon the conditions. take or displace that part which is malefic not the other way around i.e. if moon and saturn are together we cannot perform upaya for ketu. thanx kulbir bains --- In , " cptyagi2007 " <cptyagi2007 wrote: > > Dear Aggarwal Saheb, > > Kulbir ji would be responding to your main query. I just wanted to > request you not to keep on mentioning the upaya which you seem to > have picked up from some baazar book. > > There is no such thing as general upaya for any planet except what > Pandit ji has mentioned on page # 154 of 1952ed. For Ketu Pandit ji > has mentioned just one general upaya " kutton ko rotian daalen " . Now > see for yourself this upaya is not mentioned in your list. > > Therefore whenever you post a message do not mention such upaya > because they might give a very wrong impression about the Lal Kitab. > > The kind of list of upaya you keep mentioning doesn't exist in Lal > Kitab. > > With regards, > > Chandra Prakash , " mail2aggarwal " > <aggarwal.naveen@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kulbir Ji, > > > > Since as per you, this type of combination forms KETU so do you > think > > that in such scenarios one should perform the remedies for Ketu > which > > are stated below. > > > > 1) Donate 3 banana in temple for 43 days. > > 2) Wear yellow thread/ Gold chain around the neck. > > 3) Donating White Dhoti with black border to young pandit > continiously > > for 9 weeks. > > 4) Donating black and white blanket in temple for 4 days. > > 5) Installing triangular flag on the top of the mandir for 43 days. > > > > Also let me know, performing under mentioned remedies will give any > > result or not. > > > > Regards > > NA > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > naveen ji; consider saturn to be iron, moon as dhar(sharp edge); > so > > > hathyar ki dhar is the best description for this combination. > saturn > > > and moon also form masnui or artficial ketu. > > > kulbir > bains - > > > -- In , " mail2aggarwal " > > > <aggarwal.naveen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Kulbir ji > > > > > > > > I have a similiar kind of question. > > > > > > > > As per my knowledge Saturn + Moon conjuction in any house is > > > > considered bad. > > > > > > > > Let me state some scenario. 4th house is the MATA sthan where > Moon > > > > gives very good result. In the same way, in 10th house, saturn > > > gives > > > > very good result. If suppose, saturn is in 4th house and Moon > is > > > in 10 > > > > house, will this conbination be called as bad? > > > > > > > > Moon in the 10th house will ensure long life of native however > > > Saturn > > > > in 4th will deprive native from Sukh. > > > > > > > > I know certain remedies for it. I just want to confirm if I am > on > > > the > > > > right path. > > > > > > > > 1) Pouring 4 kg of Milk on every birthday in well. > > > > > > > > 2) Pouring 4 bottles of liquor in flowing water on every > birthday. > > > > 3) Pouring 50 ml of liquor on muddy floor for 43 days. > > > > 4) Putting 200 gms of Sarson ke Dhana in earthened pot and > burying > > > it > > > > in barren place. > > > > 5) Filling Ganga Jal in silver glass, put square piece of > silver > > > and > > > > keep it in house. > > > > 6) Keeping honey in round silver box. > > > > 7) Keeping rice washed with milk in round silver box. > > > > > > > > Your thoughts on it. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > NA > > > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sir, i would like to point out a peculiar situation here and > > > that is > > > > > when moon (as in this case) or sun occupies the 9th house, it > > > > > aspects the fifth house which is an exception to the general > > > rules > > > > > of aspects as per LK. for further discussion i think the > > > moderator > > > > > as already made it clear that u will have to study urself > and > > > come > > > > > up with a detailed statement as per ur apprehensions or > doubts so > > > > > instead of a generalised statement ask for something > specific to > > > be > > > > > discussed. > > > > > kulbir > > > bains - > > > > > -- In , " hii_tell_me " > > > > > <hii_tell_me@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected all gurujans(Priya ji,kulbir ji,lalkitabee ji & > other > > > > > > respected members) > > > > > > > > > > > > 1)Its my request to pls discuss the effects of saturn+moon > > > > > > combination in the 9th house.PLs discuss its remedies also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) wht does lal kitab say about saturn+moon combination.is > it > > > good > > > > > or > > > > > > bad. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Is there any other permant remedy except from lunar > eclipse > > > > > upaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Some astrolger has written that there can be loss of > eye > > > sight > > > > > > also.is it so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx & Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > jeetu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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