Guest guest Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Dear Bobby ji, The effect of an upaya lasts only for a year whether it is based on Janma Kundali or Varsh Phal kundali. Therefore a karak once buried does not mean that the effect has been destroyed for the whole life. But remember burying a karak is also used for strengthening or revitalising a planet, which is different from destroying a planet. In Lal Kitab burying to strengthen or re-enforcing a planet is very frequently used. This burying is done in the place where the planet is placed. Just to give you an example : If the sun is weak and badly placed in the 7th house; for the ' maali, grahasti and ketu ki mandi haalat ke liye' the book suggests to bury 7 small square pieces of copper in a place where grass grows. This burying is to strengthen the Sun and make it a benefic for the above mentioned areas. Similarly for Sun + merc in the 8th house it is advised to bury a little gur { sun } in a glass bottle {merc } in the shamshaan or kabristaan. This again is to strengthen the two planets placed in the 8th house { shamshaan } and make them benefic. There are quite a few other examples too. But every astrologer has to be careful about destroying the effect by burying. It is a rarely used upaya. Our Guru ji, Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji prefers distancing the effect { immersing in flowing water} rather than destroying it even if it is for a year. If a planet is badly placed in the Janma kundali already and happens to be badly placed in the varsh phal kundali also, in that case destroying the effect may be considered; I said may be. With regards, Varun Trivedi , Bobby Mehrotra <bobbyusd wrote: > > Dear Trivediji, > I have been following the discussions with great interest. I am a beginner. My query is related to the burrying of a karak and thus depriving the native of both the benefic and the malefic effect of the planet. > > In the post below you write that by burrying, the effect of a planet is destroyed for a year. Now, the upayas are based on the janam kundli and varsh phal kundali. If a karak is to be buried according to the janam kundali, does that mean the effect would last a life time?? Because, the varsh phal kundali is for a particular year, and based on the planetary configuration for that particular year, upayas would be recommended. This may or may not require burial of the same or of some other karak > With warm regards > Bobby Mehrotra > varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > Dear Shashank ji & Kulbir Bhai, > > Assuming that Venus is acting malefic after studying the entire > Kundali, the astrologer who had advised burying Jau in a barren > place is correct and also logical. > > It would have been better if the astrologer had advised Shashank ji > to ask his wife to buy the jau and gift it to shashank ji for burial. > > The logic of the upaya is simple. Venus is made up of rahu+ketu. In > the 12th house if Venus is adjudged as malefic , then it has to be > the Rahu constituent of it who would give malefic results in the > 12th house because the Ketu would be a benefic planet there. > > Wife { venus } gifting the jau means that venus is parting away with > the rahu constituent. Jau buried in a barren place would mean that > the effects of it are destroyed for that year. For some astrologers > it could also mean that Rahu has been deposited in the 6th house, > where it would not act malefic. > > Whatever be the case, the constituent of venus which was creating > the problem has been taken care of. > > The Ketu constituent of venus would be a benefic in the 12th and > hence the Venus would start getting benefic once it has shed off the > malefic part.. > > With regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > , " kulbirbains " > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > shashank ji plese read the latest message by tyagi ji. apart from > that > > i can only vaguely guess that the person who suggested this upaya > did > > it for the reason that there may be some natal or varshphal > > consideration where rahu must be troubling venus. as for ur > question > > jau is realted to venus only when rahu is associated with venus. > > nothing to do with venus alone. > > kulbir > bains - > > -- In , " shashank.dikshit " > > <shashank.dikshit@> wrote: > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > I have venus in the 12th house and have marital problems. I have > > been > > > advised to bury jau in veeran jagah. Sir how is jau related to > venus? > > > > > > respectfully, > > > > > > Shashank > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Dear Trivediji, Thankyou so much for clarifying. My initial understanding was different. This would mean, that both the janam and varshphal kundalis are analysed together before an upaya(s) is given. The janam kundali remains the same for life and the varshphal keeps changing for the relevant year. Sir, would it be appropriate to delve here into the history of lal kitab. My understanding after reading Pt. Bhooshan Priyaji's postings on the group, is that the lal kitab has its origins in Islam. Pt. Roopchand Joshiji translated (from urdu/arabic to hindi) and improved on it in his 1948 and 1952 editions respectively. He also introduced the samadhan concept to the lal kitab tradition. Sir, with Priyaji as your guru, you are indeed in noble company. With warm regardsBobbyvarun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: Dear Bobby ji,The effect of an upaya lasts only for a year whether it is based on Janma Kundali or Varsh Phal kundali. Therefore a karak once buried does not mean that the effect has been destroyed for the whole life.But remember burying a karak is also used for strengthening or revitalising a planet, which is different from destroying a planet. In Lal Kitab burying to strengthen or re-enforcing a planet is very frequently used. This burying is done in the place where the planet is placed.Just to give you an example : If the sun is weak and badly placed in the 7th house; for the ' maali, grahasti and ketu ki mandi haalat ke liye' the book suggests to bury 7 small square pieces of copper in a place where grass grows. This burying is to strengthen the Sun and make it a benefic for the above mentioned areas.Similarly for Sun + merc in the 8th house it is advised to bury a little gur { sun } in a glass bottle {merc } in the shamshaan or kabristaan. This again is to strengthen the two planets placed in the 8th house { shamshaan } and make them benefic.There are quite a few other examples too.But every astrologer has to be careful about destroying the effect by burying. It is a rarely used upaya. Our Guru ji, Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji prefers distancing the effect { immersing in flowing water} rather than destroying it even if it is for a year.If a planet is badly placed in the Janma kundali already and happens to be badly placed in the varsh phal kundali also, in that case destroying the effect may be considered; I said may be.With regards,Varun Trivedi , Bobby Mehrotra <bobbyusd wrote:>> Dear Trivediji,> I have been following the discussions with great interest. I am a beginner. My query is related to the burrying of a karak and thus depriving the native of both the benefic and the malefic effect of the planet.> > In the post below you write that by burrying, the effect of a planet is destroyed for a year. Now, the upayas are based on the janam kundli and varsh phal kundali. If a karak is to be buried according to the janam kundali, does that mean the effect would last a life time?? Because, the varsh phal kundali is for a particular year, and based on the planetary configuration for that particular year, upayas would be recommended. This may or may not require burial of the same or of some other karak> With warm regards> Bobby Mehrotra> varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote:> Dear Shashank ji & Kulbir Bhai,> > Assuming that Venus is acting malefic after studying the entire > Kundali, the astrologer who had advised burying Jau in a barren > place is correct and also logical.> > It would have been better if the astrologer had advised Shashank ji > to ask his wife to buy the jau and gift it to shashank ji for burial.> > The logic of the upaya is simple. Venus is made up of rahu+ketu. In > the 12th house if Venus is adjudged as malefic , then it has to be > the Rahu constituent of it who would give malefic results in the > 12th house because the Ketu would be a benefic planet there. > > Wife { venus } gifting the jau means that venus is parting away with > the rahu constituent. Jau buried in a barren place would mean that > the effects of it are destroyed for that year. For some astrologers > it could also mean that Rahu has been deposited in the 6th house, > where it would not act malefic. > > Whatever be the case, the constituent of venus which was creating > the problem has been taken care of.> > The Ketu constituent of venus would be a benefic in the 12th and > hence the Venus would start getting benefic once it has shed off the > malefic part..> > With regards,> > Varun Trivedi> > , "kulbirbains" > <kulbirbains@> wrote:> >> > shashank ji plese read the latest message by tyagi ji. apart from > that > > i can only vaguely guess that the person who suggested this upaya > did > > it for the reason that there may be some natal or varshphal > > consideration where rahu must be troubling venus. as for ur > question > > jau is realted to venus only when rahu is associated with venus. > > nothing to do with venus alone.> > kulbir > bains -> > -- In , "shashank.dikshit" > > <shashank.dikshit@> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > > > > I have venus in the 12th house and have marital problems. I have > > been > > > advised to bury jau in veeran jagah. Sir how is jau related to > venus?> > > > > > respectfully,> > > > > > Shashank> > >> >> > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Dear Bobby ji, Yes when analyzing, both the kundalis have to be studied. It is rather surprising you got the impression that Lal Kitab has its origins in Islamic tradition. On the contrary the Lal Kitab had its origin in Vedic Indian astrology tradition which had been prevalent in the hilly regions of the North India. Lal Kitab is a part of Vedic tradition. For further clarifications you could read an article in the files of group by Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji titled ‘ myths and the reality of Lal Kitab’ In total there have been five publications of Lal Kitab. The first one came out in 1939 followed by the ones in 1940,1941,1942 and 1952. They are all separate books. The last one of 1952 being the most exhaustive treatment of the system spreading over 1173 pages. With regards, Varun Trivedi , Bobby Mehrotra <bobbyusd wrote: > > Dear Trivediji, > Thankyou so much for clarifying. My initial understanding was different. This would mean, that both the janam and varshphal kundalis are analysed together before an upaya(s) is given. The janam kundali remains the same for life and the varshphal keeps changing for the relevant year. > > Sir, would it be appropriate to delve here into the history of lal kitab. My understanding after reading Pt. Bhooshan Priyaji's postings on the group, is that the lal kitab has its origins in Islam. Pt. Roopchand Joshiji translated (from urdu/arabic to hindi) and improved on it in his 1948 and 1952 editions respectively. He also introduced the samadhan concept to the lal kitab tradition. > > Sir, with Priyaji as your guru, you are indeed in noble company. > > With warm regards > Bobby > varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > Dear Bobby ji, > > The effect of an upaya lasts only for a year whether it is based on > Janma Kundali or Varsh Phal kundali. Therefore a karak once buried > does not mean that the effect has been destroyed for the whole life. > > But remember burying a karak is also used for strengthening or > revitalising a planet, which is different from destroying a planet. > In Lal Kitab burying to strengthen or re-enforcing a planet is very > frequently used. This burying is done in the place where the planet > is placed. > > Just to give you an example : > > If the sun is weak and badly placed in the 7th house; for the ' > maali, grahasti and ketu ki mandi haalat ke liye' the book suggests > to bury 7 small square pieces of copper in a place where grass > grows. This burying is to strengthen the Sun and make it a benefic > for the above mentioned areas. > > Similarly for Sun + merc in the 8th house it is advised to bury a > little gur { sun } in a glass bottle {merc } in the shamshaan or > kabristaan. This again is to strengthen the two planets placed in > the 8th house { shamshaan } and make them benefic. > > There are quite a few other examples too. > > But every astrologer has to be careful about destroying the effect > by burying. It is a rarely used upaya. Our Guru ji, Pt. Bhooshan > Priya ji prefers distancing the effect { immersing in flowing water} > rather than destroying it even if it is for a year. > > If a planet is badly placed in the Janma kundali already and happens > to be badly placed in the varsh phal kundali also, in that case > destroying the effect may be considered; I said may be. > > With regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > , Bobby Mehrotra > <bobbyusd@> wrote: > > > > Dear Trivediji, > > I have been following the discussions with great interest. I am > a beginner. My query is related to the burrying of a karak and thus > depriving the native of both the benefic and the malefic effect of > the planet. > > > > In the post below you write that by burrying, the effect of a > planet is destroyed for a year. Now, the upayas are based on the > janam kundli and varsh phal kundali. If a karak is to be buried > according to the janam kundali, does that mean the effect would last > a life time?? Because, the varsh phal kundali is for a particular > year, and based on the planetary configuration for that particular > year, upayas would be recommended. This may or may not require > burial of the same or of some other karak > > With warm regards > > Bobby Mehrotra > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > Dear Shashank ji & Kulbir Bhai, > > > > Assuming that Venus is acting malefic after studying the entire > > Kundali, the astrologer who had advised burying Jau in a barren > > place is correct and also logical. > > > > It would have been better if the astrologer had advised Shashank > ji > > to ask his wife to buy the jau and gift it to shashank ji for > burial. > > > > The logic of the upaya is simple. Venus is made up of rahu+ketu. > In > > the 12th house if Venus is adjudged as malefic , then it has to be > > the Rahu constituent of it who would give malefic results in the > > 12th house because the Ketu would be a benefic planet there. > > > > Wife { venus } gifting the jau means that venus is parting away > with > > the rahu constituent. Jau buried in a barren place would mean that > > the effects of it are destroyed for that year. For some > astrologers > > it could also mean that Rahu has been deposited in the 6th house, > > where it would not act malefic. > > > > Whatever be the case, the constituent of venus which was creating > > the problem has been taken care of. > > > > The Ketu constituent of venus would be a benefic in the 12th and > > hence the Venus would start getting benefic once it has shed off > the > > malefic part.. > > > > With regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > shashank ji plese read the latest message by tyagi ji. apart > from > > that > > > i can only vaguely guess that the person who suggested this > upaya > > did > > > it for the reason that there may be some natal or varshphal > > > consideration where rahu must be troubling venus. as for ur > > question > > > jau is realted to venus only when rahu is associated with venus. > > > nothing to do with venus alone. > > > kulbir > > bains - > > > -- In , " shashank.dikshit " > > > <shashank.dikshit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > I have venus in the 12th house and have marital problems. I > have > > > been > > > > advised to bury jau in veeran jagah. Sir how is jau related to > > venus? > > > > > > > > respectfully, > > > > > > > > Shashank > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Dear Trivdeiji, Read the file myths and reality in the file section. Do the use of urdu words give an indication of its origin? Or is this a field of reserach?With warm regards Bobbyvarun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: Dear Bobby ji,Yes when analyzing, both the kundalis have to be studied.It is rather surprising you got the impression that Lal Kitab has its origins in Islamic tradition. On the contrary the Lal Kitab had its origin in Vedic Indian astrology tradition which had been prevalent in the hilly regions of the North India. Lal Kitab is a part of Vedic tradition.For further clarifications you could read an article in the files of group by Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji titled ‘ myths and the reality of Lal Kitab’In total there have been five publications of Lal Kitab. The first one came out in 1939 followed by the ones in 1940,1941,1942 and 1952. They are all separate books. The last one of 1952 being the most exhaustive treatment of the system spreading over 1173 pages.With regards,Varun Trivedi , Bobby Mehrotra <bobbyusd wrote:>> Dear Trivediji,> Thankyou so much for clarifying. My initial understanding was different. This would mean, that both the janam and varshphal kundalis are analysed together before an upaya(s) is given. The janam kundali remains the same for life and the varshphal keeps changing for the relevant year.> > Sir, would it be appropriate to delve here into the history of lal kitab. My understanding after reading Pt. Bhooshan Priyaji's postings on the group, is that the lal kitab has its origins in Islam. Pt. Roopchand Joshiji translated (from urdu/arabic to hindi) and improved on it in his 1948 and 1952 editions respectively. He also introduced the samadhan concept to the lal kitab tradition.> > Sir, with Priyaji as your guru, you are indeed in noble company.> > With warm regards> Bobby> varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote:> Dear Bobby ji,> > The effect of an upaya lasts only for a year whether it is based on > Janma Kundali or Varsh Phal kundali. Therefore a karak once buried > does not mean that the effect has been destroyed for the whole life.> > But remember burying a karak is also used for strengthening or > revitalising a planet, which is different from destroying a planet. > In Lal Kitab burying to strengthen or re-enforcing a planet is very > frequently used. This burying is done in the place where the planet > is placed.> > Just to give you an example : > > If the sun is weak and badly placed in the 7th house; for the ' > maali, grahasti and ketu ki mandi haalat ke liye' the book suggests > to bury 7 small square pieces of copper in a place where grass > grows. This burying is to strengthen the Sun and make it a benefic > for the above mentioned areas.> > Similarly for Sun + merc in the 8th house it is advised to bury a > little gur { sun } in a glass bottle {merc } in the shamshaan or > kabristaan. This again is to strengthen the two planets placed in > the 8th house { shamshaan } and make them benefic.> > There are quite a few other examples too.> > But every astrologer has to be careful about destroying the effect > by burying. It is a rarely used upaya. Our Guru ji, Pt. Bhooshan > Priya ji prefers distancing the effect { immersing in flowing water} > rather than destroying it even if it is for a year.> > If a planet is badly placed in the Janma kundali already and happens > to be badly placed in the varsh phal kundali also, in that case > destroying the effect may be considered; I said may be.> > With regards,> > Varun Trivedi> > , Bobby Mehrotra > <bobbyusd@> wrote:> >> > Dear Trivediji,> > I have been following the discussions with great interest. I am > a beginner. My query is related to the burrying of a karak and thus > depriving the native of both the benefic and the malefic effect of > the planet.> > > > In the post below you write that by burrying, the effect of a > planet is destroyed for a year. Now, the upayas are based on the > janam kundli and varsh phal kundali. If a karak is to be buried > according to the janam kundali, does that mean the effect would last > a life time?? Because, the varsh phal kundali is for a particular > year, and based on the planetary configuration for that particular > year, upayas would be recommended. This may or may not require > burial of the same or of some other karak> > With warm regards> > Bobby Mehrotra> > varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote:> > Dear Shashank ji & Kulbir Bhai,> > > > Assuming that Venus is acting malefic after studying the entire > > Kundali, the astrologer who had advised burying Jau in a barren > > place is correct and also logical.> > > > It would have been better if the astrologer had advised Shashank > ji > > to ask his wife to buy the jau and gift it to shashank ji for > burial.> > > > The logic of the upaya is simple. Venus is made up of rahu+ketu. > In > > the 12th house if Venus is adjudged as malefic , then it has to be > > the Rahu constituent of it who would give malefic results in the > > 12th house because the Ketu would be a benefic planet there. > > > > Wife { venus } gifting the jau means that venus is parting away > with > > the rahu constituent. Jau buried in a barren place would mean that > > the effects of it are destroyed for that year. For some > astrologers > > it could also mean that Rahu has been deposited in the 6th house, > > where it would not act malefic. > > > > Whatever be the case, the constituent of venus which was creating > > the problem has been taken care of.> > > > The Ketu constituent of venus would be a benefic in the 12th and > > hence the Venus would start getting benefic once it has shed off > the > > malefic part..> > > > With regards,> > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > , "kulbirbains" > > <kulbirbains@> wrote:> > >> > > shashank ji plese read the latest message by tyagi ji. apart > from > > that > > > i can only vaguely guess that the person who suggested this > upaya > > did > > > it for the reason that there may be some natal or varshphal > > > consideration where rahu must be troubling venus. as for ur > > question > > > jau is realted to venus only when rahu is associated with venus. > > > nothing to do with venus alone.> > > kulbir > > bains -> > > -- In , "shashank.dikshit" > > > <shashank.dikshit@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Sir,> > > > > > > > I have venus in the 12th house and have marital problems. I > have > > > been > > > > advised to bury jau in veeran jagah. Sir how is jau related to > > venus?> > > > > > > > respectfully,> > > > > > > > Shashank> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> >> > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger> Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2007 Report Share Posted May 1, 2007 Dear Bobby ji, There is nothing unusual about the Urdu words. The first four books were published from Lahore. In those days the educated populace of western Punjab used those words in their every day vocabulary. It is only now that we find those words alien. Secondly, Pt. Roopchand ji { peace be upon him} was more fluent in Urdu as compared to Hindi, and naturally chose to write it in Urdu. Therefore the language it is written in is no pointer to its origin; it is the concepts and the principles of the system which prove that the origin of the book is from Vedic astrology. Regards, Chandra Prakash , Bobby Mehrotra <bobbyusd wrote: > > Dear Trivdeiji, > Read the file myths and reality in the file section. Do the use of urdu words give an indication of its origin? Or is this a field of reserach? > With warm regards > Bobby > varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > Dear Bobby ji, > > Yes when analyzing, both the kundalis have to be studied. > > It is rather surprising you got the impression that Lal Kitab has > its origins in Islamic tradition. On the contrary the Lal Kitab had > its origin in Vedic Indian astrology tradition which had been > prevalent in the hilly regions of the North India. Lal Kitab is a > part of Vedic tradition. > > For further clarifications you could read an article in the files of > group by Pt. Bhooshan Priya ji titled ‘ myths and > the reality of Lal Kitab’ > > In total there have been five publications of Lal Kitab. The first > one came out in 1939 followed by the ones in 1940,1941,1942 and > 1952. They are all separate books. The last one of 1952 being the > most exhaustive treatment of the system spreading over 1173 pages. > > With regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > , Bobby Mehrotra > <bobbyusd@> wrote: > > > > Dear Trivediji, > > Thankyou so much for clarifying. My initial understanding was > different. This would mean, that both the janam and varshphal > kundalis are analysed together before an upaya(s) is given. The > janam kundali remains the same for life and the varshphal keeps > changing for the relevant year. > > > > Sir, would it be appropriate to delve here into the history of > lal kitab. My understanding after reading Pt. Bhooshan Priyaji's > postings on the group, is that the lal kitab has its origins in > Islam. Pt. Roopchand Joshiji translated (from urdu/arabic to hindi) > and improved on it in his 1948 and 1952 editions respectively. He > also introduced the samadhan concept to the lal kitab tradition. > > > > Sir, with Priyaji as your guru, you are indeed in noble company. > > > > With warm regards > > Bobby > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > Dear Bobby ji, > > > > The effect of an upaya lasts only for a year whether it is based > on > > Janma Kundali or Varsh Phal kundali. Therefore a karak once buried > > does not mean that the effect has been destroyed for the whole > life. > > > > But remember burying a karak is also used for strengthening or > > revitalising a planet, which is different from destroying a > planet. > > In Lal Kitab burying to strengthen or re-enforcing a planet is > very > > frequently used. This burying is done in the place where the > planet > > is placed. > > > > Just to give you an example : > > > > If the sun is weak and badly placed in the 7th house; for the ' > > maali, grahasti and ketu ki mandi haalat ke liye' the book > suggests > > to bury 7 small square pieces of copper in a place where grass > > grows. This burying is to strengthen the Sun and make it a benefic > > for the above mentioned areas. > > > > Similarly for Sun + merc in the 8th house it is advised to bury a > > little gur { sun } in a glass bottle {merc } in the shamshaan or > > kabristaan. This again is to strengthen the two planets placed in > > the 8th house { shamshaan } and make them benefic. > > > > There are quite a few other examples too. > > > > But every astrologer has to be careful about destroying the effect > > by burying. It is a rarely used upaya. Our Guru ji, Pt. Bhooshan > > Priya ji prefers distancing the effect { immersing in flowing > water} > > rather than destroying it even if it is for a year. > > > > If a planet is badly placed in the Janma kundali already and > happens > > to be badly placed in the varsh phal kundali also, in that case > > destroying the effect may be considered; I said may be. > > > > With regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > , Bobby Mehrotra > > <bobbyusd@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Trivediji, > > > I have been following the discussions with great interest. I am > > a beginner. My query is related to the burrying of a karak and > thus > > depriving the native of both the benefic and the malefic effect of > > the planet. > > > > > > In the post below you write that by burrying, the effect of a > > planet is destroyed for a year. Now, the upayas are based on the > > janam kundli and varsh phal kundali. If a karak is to be buried > > according to the janam kundali, does that mean the effect would > last > > a life time?? Because, the varsh phal kundali is for a particular > > year, and based on the planetary configuration for that particular > > year, upayas would be recommended. This may or may not require > > burial of the same or of some other karak > > > With warm regards > > > Bobby Mehrotra > > > varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > Dear Shashank ji & Kulbir Bhai, > > > > > > Assuming that Venus is acting malefic after studying the entire > > > Kundali, the astrologer who had advised burying Jau in a barren > > > place is correct and also logical. > > > > > > It would have been better if the astrologer had advised Shashank > > ji > > > to ask his wife to buy the jau and gift it to shashank ji for > > burial. > > > > > > The logic of the upaya is simple. Venus is made up of rahu+ketu. > > In > > > the 12th house if Venus is adjudged as malefic , then it has to > be > > > the Rahu constituent of it who would give malefic results in the > > > 12th house because the Ketu would be a benefic planet there. > > > > > > Wife { venus } gifting the jau means that venus is parting away > > with > > > the rahu constituent. Jau buried in a barren place would mean > that > > > the effects of it are destroyed for that year. For some > > astrologers > > > it could also mean that Rahu has been deposited in the 6th > house, > > > where it would not act malefic. > > > > > > Whatever be the case, the constituent of venus which was > creating > > > the problem has been taken care of. > > > > > > The Ketu constituent of venus would be a benefic in the 12th and > > > hence the Venus would start getting benefic once it has shed off > > the > > > malefic part.. > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > , " kulbirbains " > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > shashank ji plese read the latest message by tyagi ji. apart > > from > > > that > > > > i can only vaguely guess that the person who suggested this > > upaya > > > did > > > > it for the reason that there may be some natal or varshphal > > > > consideration where rahu must be troubling venus. as for ur > > > question > > > > jau is realted to venus only when rahu is associated with > venus. > > > > nothing to do with venus alone. > > > > kulbir > > > bains - > > > > -- In , " shashank.dikshit " > > > > <shashank.dikshit@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > I have venus in the 12th house and have marital problems. I > > have > > > > been > > > > > advised to bury jau in veeran jagah. Sir how is jau related > to > > > venus? > > > > > > > > > > respectfully, > > > > > > > > > > Shashank > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > > > Check out what you're missing if you're not on Messenger > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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