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Dear Kulbir bhai.

 

Like you I had also thought it might be an indication for Rahu. But

the words Pandit ji used for rahu are :

 

“ dimag mein khwabi lahar aur qayasi khayal ki nakla-o-harkatâ€

and “ dimagi lahar ka malikâ€. The Rahu has been associated more

with ‘dimag’ or ‘ mind’ and ‘mental thoughts’ or the ‘waves of

thoughts’

 

Where as the word ‘ antar’ in Hindi is not used for ‘ dimagi’, it

is used for ‘ within’ or ‘internal’ like antar-man ‘ in the heart

within’

 

My lonely musings over the subtitle were to find some mystical

message hidden in this sub title, because it is for the first time I

came across Pandit ji’s choice of beautiful Hindi words ‘aloup’

and ‘antar’, the words Pandit ji normally doesn’t use.

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, kulbir bains

<kulbirbains wrote:

>

> vARUSN JI; Now just relate ALOOP ANTAR KI LEHREN TO RAHU

>

> varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: Dear Kulbir bhai,

>

> You have really thrown a gauntlet in the arena.

> Since yesterday I have been thinking about this subtitle. “ aloup

> antar ki laharenâ€.

> Sounds like a baani from Kabir ji, naav mein nadia doobi jaaya

>

> Aloup = adrasht =imperceptible , hidden, can be felt but not seen,

> was here a while ago, now can’t be seen.

>

> “antar†= like in antar-man = inner , internal, not external, deep-

> deep inside

>

> lahren = waves , rhythms { I like the word rhythms }

>

> Therefore :

>

> Imperceptible internal rhythms,

>

> [ felt but not seen. Since they are ‘aloup’ can not be evaluated

or

> examined. If it is an internal rhythm it can not be measured

> either.]

>

> ooops, leading to more confusion.

>

> Leave it to Kulbir bhai

> Damn it, no wonder Kulbir bhai called it uljhan.

> I am out of it,

> But can I really get away from it.

> It has haunted me for two days.

> Want to have a sound sleep today.

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

> , kulbir bains

> <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> >

> > Really convincing; no not loud thinking brother if we continue

in

> this manner it will definetely yield results. for ur kind

> information just today Guruji Nirmal Bhardwaj told me that the

title

> under which these lines appear is KISMAT and the subtitle before

> these lines appear is termed ANTAR ALOP KI LEHREN. unfortunately

> these words are not mentioned in any of translated versions.

keeping

> this in account and ur benevolent explanantion; i will try to

> understand.

> >

> > varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: Dear Kulbir bhai,

> >

> > Would the Vedic astrology concept help in understanding this

> > dilemma? In the Vedic astrology there is a concept that male

> planets

> > attain completeness { poornataa ko prapt hote hain } in the

female

> > rasis, similarly the female planets achieve completeness in the

> male

> > rasis. This concept has the connotations of the primordial

> Celestial

> > Union of Prakriti and Purush. When these two forces come

together

> > the Shriti { world } is formed. A similar image of Ardh-

Nareeshwar.

> >

> > Can we therefore assume that the male planets achieve strength /

> > completeness { nothing to do with beneficity or maleficity } in

> the

> > female rasis and the female planets in the male rasis. This

> > completeness or strength , whatever word you choose, manifests

in

> > their expression.

> >

> > Since the mercury is an eunuch it achieves the same strength/

> > completeness in its own rasis of ownership.

> >

> > In the context of the papi grah the word “nahi bolte†could mean

> > that they shed off their maleficity in the 2nd house, the

temple.

> In

> > the presence of God they swear to behave.

> >

> > Just a loud thinking!!

> >

> > Sincerely,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> > , " kulbirbains "

> > <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > >

> > > yes express, manifest, activated could be the words but still

> > > something is amiss. how do we ilustrate this condition, male

> > planets

> > > manifest in even houses and female in odd, mercury in 3,6 and

> > rahu

> > > ketu silent in 2 but manifestations of male in odd, female in

> even

> > > and rahu ketu in 2nd are visible.

> > >

> > > kulbir bains -

> > --

> > > In , " cptyagi2007 "

> > > <cptyagi2007@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kulir ji,

> > > >

> > > > Do you think the word " express " or " manifest " could carry

> the

> > > > meaning ?

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Chandra Prakash

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " kulbirbains "

> > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Now how do i translate BOLTE this single word has the key

> but

> > > here

> > > > it

> > > > > is a an idea or a subject in totality

> > > > > kulbir bains-

> > --

> > >

> > > > In

> > > > > , " kulbirbains "

> > > <kulbirbains@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am at my wits ends to understand these lines or what

> lies

> > > > betwen

> > > > > > these lines; 1942 page 61 " NAR GRAH BOLTE JUST KE GHAR

> ME.

> > > STRI

> > > > > BOLTE

> > > > > > TAAK ME HAIN ; BUDH HAI BOLTA 3,6 ME, TO PAAPI NAHIN

BOLTE

> > DO

> > > ME

> > > > > HAIN.

> > > > > > what does it exactly means or signifies.

> > > > > > kulbir bains.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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