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vARUSN JI; Now just relate ALOOP ANTAR KI LEHREN TO RAHUvarun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: Dear Kulbir bhai,You have really thrown a gauntlet in the arena. Since yesterday I have been thinking about this subtitle. “ aloup antar ki laharenâ€. Sounds like a baani from Kabir ji, naav mein nadia doobi jaayaAloup = adrasht =imperceptible , hidden, can be felt but not seen, was here a while ago, now can’t be seen.“antar†= like in antar-man = inner , internal, not

external, deep-deep insidelahren = waves , rhythms { I like the word rhythms }Therefore :Imperceptible internal rhythms,[ felt but not seen. Since they are ‘aloup’ can not be evaluated or examined. If it is an internal rhythm it can not be measured either.] ooops, leading to more confusion.Leave it to Kulbir bhaiDamn it, no wonder Kulbir bhai called it uljhan.I am out of it,But can I really get away from it.It has haunted me for two days.Want to have a sound sleep today.Varun Trivedi , kulbir bains <kulbirbains wrote:>> Really convincing; no not loud thinking brother if we continue in this manner it will definetely yield results. for ur kind information just today Guruji Nirmal Bhardwaj told me that the title under which

these lines appear is KISMAT and the subtitle before these lines appear is termed ANTAR ALOP KI LEHREN. unfortunately these words are not mentioned in any of translated versions. keeping this in account and ur benevolent explanantion; i will try to understand.> > varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: Dear Kulbir bhai,> > Would the Vedic astrology concept help in understanding this > dilemma? In the Vedic astrology there is a concept that male planets > attain completeness { poornataa ko prapt hote hain } in the female > rasis, similarly the female planets achieve completeness in the male > rasis. This concept has the connotations of the primordial Celestial > Union of Prakriti and Purush. When these two forces come together > the Shriti { world } is formed. A similar image of Ardh-Nareeshwar.> > Can we therefore assume that the male planets achieve

strength / > completeness { nothing to do with beneficity or maleficity } in the > female rasis and the female planets in the male rasis. This > completeness or strength , whatever word you choose, manifests in > their expression.> > Since the mercury is an eunuch it achieves the same strength/ > completeness in its own rasis of ownership.> > In the context of the papi grah the word “nahi bolte†could mean > that they shed off their maleficity in the 2nd house, the temple. In > the presence of God they swear to behave.> > Just a loud thinking!!> > Sincerely,> > Varun Trivedi> > , "kulbirbains" > <kulbirbains@> wrote:> >> > yes express, manifest, activated could be the words but still

> > something is amiss. how do we ilustrate this condition, male > planets > > manifest in even houses and female in odd, mercury in 3,6 and > rahu > > ketu silent in 2 but manifestations of male in odd, female in even > > and rahu ketu in 2nd are visible.> > > > kulbir bains -> --> > In , "cptyagi2007" > > <cptyagi2007@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Kulir ji,> > > > > > Do you think the word " express " or " manifest" could carry the > > > meaning ?> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Chandra Prakash> > > > > > > > > , "kulbirbains" > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Now how do i translate BOLTE this single word has the key but > > here > > > it > > > > is a an idea or a subject in totality> > > > kulbir bains-> --> > > > > In > > > > , "kulbirbains" > > <kulbirbains@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > I am at my wits ends to understand these lines or what lies > > > betwen > > > > > these lines; 1942 page 61 " NAR GRAH BOLTE JUST KE GHAR ME. > > STRI > > > > BOLTE > >

> > > TAAK ME HAIN ; BUDH HAI BOLTA 3,6 ME, TO PAAPI NAHIN BOLTE > DO > > ME > > > > HAIN.> > > > > what does it exactly means or signifies.> > > > > kulbir bains.> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > HereÂ's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers>

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