Childless

August 23, 2007

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Mukesh,What is 21:45am?Respectfully,MichalMUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:16:37 AM[Om Krishna Guru] Childless

Respected gurus,

Here is a case of my relative she is unable to

conceive for last 15 years and now she lost all her

hopes . If some one can study her case and suggest

some thing would be great for ailing couple

Neeru

06-march-1969

21.45 am, delhi

husband

30-jan-1965

03.00 am

delhi

my little knowledge about the subjects says her

husband saturn-sun relationship is not good. after 5

years of marriage his planets actually made wife a

barren. Not only that if they adopt a child he or she

will also die . No santan gopal ytar will work here

and i also see in her horscope some black magic done

by near one to stop child birth .

so now please check case and suggest something .

warm regards

mukesh

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August 23, 2007

this is 21:45 PM not AM

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Mukesh,

>

> What is 21:45am?

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us

>

> Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:16:37 AM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

Respected gurus,

>

> Here is a case of my relative she is unable to

>

> conceive for last 15 years and now she lost all her

>

> hopes . If some one can study her case and suggest

>

> some thing would be great for ailing couple

>

> Neeru

>

> 06-march-1969

>

> 21.45 am, delhi

>

> husband

>

> 30-jan-1965

>

> 03.00 am

>

> delhi

>

> my little knowledge about the subjects says her

>

> husband saturn-sun relationship is not good. after 5

>

> years of marriage his planets actually made wife a

>

> barren. Not only that if they adopt a child he or

> she

>

> will also die . No santan gopal ytar will work here

>

> and i also see in her horscope some black magic done

>

> by near one to stop child birth .

>

> so now please check case and suggest something .

>

> warm regards

>

> mukesh

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________

> _________ _

>

> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here

> and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at

> Games.

>

> http://get.games. / proddesc?

> gamekey=monopoly herenow

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August 24, 2007

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Mukesh,Unfortunately Neeru has some combinations in her chart which are preventing children. This would have been very difficult as retrograde Jupiter can produce a strong desire for children.* Karakamsha has the association of Saturn, Ketu, and Mercury because of parivartana.* In Rasi, MKS Mercury is the 9th lord and is placed in the 5th from Jupiter. A3 and A9 are poorly placed from Lagna.* In Saptamsa Lords of the 9th and 10th are in parivartana.9th from UL is lorded by Saturn and aspected by Mars, which is a combination for adopting children.Respectfully,MichalMUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:34:05 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless this is 21:45 PM not AM --- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote: > Hare Rama Krsna || > > Dear Mukesh, > > What is 21:45am? > > Respectfully, > Michal > > > MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us > > > Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:16:37 AM > [Om Krishna Guru] Childless > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected gurus, > > Here is a case of my relative she is unable to > > conceive for last 15 years and now she lost all her > > hopes . If some one can study her case and suggest > > some thing would be great for ailing couple > > > > Neeru > > 06-march-1969 > > 21.45 am, delhi > > > > husband > > 30-jan-1965 >

> 03.00 am > > delhi > > > > my little knowledge about the subjects says her > > husband saturn-sun relationship is not good. after 5 > > years of marriage his planets actually made wife a > > barren. Not only that if they adopt a child he or > she > > will also die . No santan gopal ytar will work here > > and i also see in her horscope some black magic done > > by near one to stop child birth . > > > > so now please check case and suggest something . > > > > warm regards > > mukesh > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > _________ _ > > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here > and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at

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August 25, 2007

So what is the remedy .

This is good analysis .but i want remedy sir,

regards

mukesh

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Mukesh,

>

> Unfortunately Neeru has some combinations in her

> chart which are preventing children. This would

> have been very difficult as retrograde Jupiter can

> produce a strong desire for children.

>

> * Karakamsha has the association of Saturn, Ketu,

> and Mercury because of parivartana.

>

> * In Rasi, MKS Mercury is the 9th lord and is placed

> in the 5th from Jupiter. A3 and A9 are poorly

> placed from Lagna.

>

> * In Saptamsa Lords of the 9th and 10th are in

> parivartana.

>

> 9th from UL is lorded by Saturn and aspected by

> Mars, which is a combination for adopting children.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us

>

> Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:34:05 PM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

> this is 21:45 PM not

> AM

>

> --- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

>

> > Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Mukesh,

> >

> > What is 21:45am?

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal

> >

> > MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us >

> >

> > Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:16:37 AM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

> >

> > Respected gurus,

> >

> > Here is a case of my relative she is unable to

> >

> > conceive for last 15 years and now she lost all

> her

> >

> > hopes . If some one can study her case and

> suggest

> >

> > some thing would be great for ailing couple

> >

> > Neeru

> >

> > 06-march-1969

> >

> > 21.45 am, delhi

> >

> > husband

> >

> > 30-jan-1965

> >

> > 03.00 am

> >

> > delhi

> >

> > my little knowledge about the subjects says her

> >

> > husband saturn-sun relationship is not good.

> after 5

> >

> > years of marriage his planets actually made wife

> a

> >

> > barren. Not only that if they adopt a child he or

> > she

> >

> > will also die . No santan gopal ytar will work

> here

> >

> > and i also see in her horscope some black magic

> done

> >

> > by near one to stop child birth .

> >

> > so now please check case and suggest something .

> >

> > warm regards

> >

> > mukesh

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________

> _________

> > _________ _

> >

> > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly

> Here

> > and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at

>

> > Games.

> >

> > http://get.games. / proddesc?

> > gamekey=monopoly herenow

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August 25, 2007

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Mukesh,There is a curse of Brahmin in this chart also. Jupiter is recieving the Graha drsti of Rahu and Saturn who own the 5th house. As this is in the 12th house the curse is severe, and Atmakaraka Shani is involved so even worse. She is running Jupiter dasa so this karma she is experiencing.As for the remedy - is there a remedy? Perhaps being childless in a way is the remedy. Worship of Shiva on Mondays would be a good start.Respectfully,Michal----- Original Message

----MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 12:03:44 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

So what is the remedy .

This is good analysis .but i want remedy sir,

regards

mukesh

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Mukesh,

>

> Unfortunately Neeru has some combinations in her

> chart which are preventing children. This would

> have been very difficult as retrograde Jupiter can

> produce a strong desire for children.

>

> * Karakamsha has the association of Saturn, Ketu,

> and Mercury because of parivartana.

>

> * In Rasi, MKS Mercury is the 9th lord and is placed

> in the 5th from Jupiter. A3 and A9 are poorly

> placed from Lagna.

>

> * In Saptamsa Lords of the 9th and 10th are in

> parivartana.

>

> 9th from UL is lorded by Saturn and aspected by

> Mars, which is a combination for adopting children.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us >

>

> Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:34:05 PM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

> this is 21:45 PM not

> AM

>

> --- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal> wrote:

>

> > Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Mukesh,

> >

> > What is 21:45am?

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal

> >

> > MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us>

> >

> > Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:16:37 AM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

> >

> > Respected gurus,

> >

> > Here is a case of my relative she is unable to

> >

> > conceive for last 15 years and now she lost all

> her

> >

> > hopes . If some one can study her case and

> suggest

> >

> > some thing would be great for ailing couple

> >

> > Neeru

> >

> > 06-march-1969

> >

> > 21.45 am, delhi

> >

> > husband

> >

> > 30-jan-1965

> >

> > 03.00 am

> >

> > delhi

> >

> > my little knowledge about the subjects says her

> >

> > husband saturn-sun relationship is not good.

> after 5

> >

> > years of marriage his planets actually made wife

> a

> >

> > barren. Not only that if they adopt a child he or

> > she

> >

> > will also die . No santan gopal ytar will work

> here

> >

> > and i also see in her horscope some black magic

> done

> >

> > by near one to stop child birth .

> >

> > so now please check case and suggest something .

> >

> > warm regards

> >

> > mukesh

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________

> _________

> > _________ _

> >

> > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly

> Here

> > and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at

>

> > Games.

> >

> > http://get.games. / proddesc?

> > gamekey=monopoly herenow

> >

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August 26, 2007

हरे राम कृष्ण॥

Dear Mukesh, Namaskar

The problem seems to be the husbands particularly due to some mistakes

he has been making in his lifestyle.

This can be solved through operation (mars), but definitely its the

doctor who needs to assess this.

Yours sincerely,

--

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Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti

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Michal Dziwulski wrote:

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

Dear Mukesh,

There is a curse of Brahmin in this chart also. Jupiter is recieving

the Graha drsti of Rahu and Saturn who own the 5th house. As this is

in the 12th house the curse is severe, and Atmakaraka Shani is involved

so even worse. She is running Jupiter dasa so this karma she is

experiencing.

As for the remedy - is there a remedy? Perhaps being childless in a

way is the remedy. Worship of Shiva on Mondays would be a good start.

Respectfully,

Michal

-----

Original Message ----

MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us >

Sunday, August 26, 2007 12:03:44 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

So what is the remedy .

This is good analysis .but i want remedy sir,

regards

mukesh

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal (AT) (DOT)

com> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Mukesh,

>

> Unfortunately Neeru has some combinations in her

> chart which are preventing children. This would

> have been very difficult as retrograde Jupiter can

> produce a strong desire for children.

>

> * Karakamsha has the association of Saturn, Ketu,

> and Mercury because of parivartana.

>

> * In Rasi, MKS Mercury is the 9th lord and is placed

> in the 5th from Jupiter. A3 and A9 are poorly

> placed from Lagna.

>

> * In Saptamsa Lords of the 9th and 10th are in

> parivartana.

>

> 9th from UL is lorded by Saturn and aspected by

> Mars, which is a combination for adopting children.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us (AT) (DOT)

com>

> @

. com

> Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:34:05 PM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

> this is 21:45 PM not

> AM

>

> --- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal> wrote:

>

> > Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Mukesh,

> >

> > What is 21:45am?

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal

> >

> > MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us>

> >

> > Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:16:37 AM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

> >

> > Respected gurus,

> >

> > Here is a case of my relative she is unable to

> >

> > conceive for last 15 years and now she lost all

> her

> >

> > hopes . If some one can study her case and

> suggest

> >

> > some thing would be great for ailing couple

> >

> > Neeru

> >

> > 06-march-1969

> >

> > 21.45 am, delhi

> >

> > husband

> >

> > 30-jan-1965

> >

> > 03.00 am

> >

> > delhi

> >

> > my little knowledge about the subjects says her

> >

> > husband saturn-sun relationship is not good.

> after 5

> >

> > years of marriage his planets actually made wife

> a

> >

> > barren. Not only that if they adopt a child he or

> > she

> >

> > will also die . No santan gopal ytar will work

> here

> >

> > and i also see in her horscope some black magic

> done

> >

> > by near one to stop child birth .

> >

> > so now please check case and suggest something .

> >

> > warm regards

> >

> > mukesh

> >

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Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Visti,In the husbands chart the pada of the 9th house from Sun is placed in the 12th house from the Sun and conjoined vargottama Mercury and Venus. This shows an inability to sustain an Atma which I thought was a non-physical condition. So how could medical intervention help? I can see Moon conjoining this combination indicating the doctor and Mars is having drsti showing surgery, but how can we say that this will be successful? Especially given that Karaka and 5th lord Jupiter is in the 6th house aspected by malefics.Respectfully,MichalVisti Larsen <visti Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:18:49 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

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Dear Mukesh, Namaskar

The problem seems to be the husbands particularly due to some mistakes

he has been making in his lifestyle.

This can be solved through operation (mars), but definitely its the

doctor who needs to assess this.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

Michal Dziwulski wrote:

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

Dear Mukesh,

There is a curse of Brahmin in this chart also. Jupiter is recieving

the Graha drsti of Rahu and Saturn who own the 5th house. As this is

in the 12th house the curse is severe, and Atmakaraka Shani is involved

so even worse. She is running Jupiter dasa so this karma she is

experiencing.

As for the remedy - is there a remedy? Perhaps being childless in a

way is the remedy. Worship of Shiva on Mondays would be a good start.

Respectfully,

Michal

-----

Original Message ----

MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us >

Sunday, August 26, 2007 12:03:44 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

So what is the remedy .

This is good analysis .but i want remedy sir,

regards

mukesh

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal (AT) (DOT)

com> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Mukesh,

>

> Unfortunately Neeru has some combinations in her

> chart which are preventing children. This would

> have been very difficult as retrograde Jupiter can

> produce a strong desire for children.

>

> * Karakamsha has the association of Saturn, Ketu,

> and Mercury because of parivartana.

>

> * In Rasi, MKS Mercury is the 9th lord and is placed

> in the 5th from Jupiter. A3 and A9 are poorly

> placed from Lagna.

>

> * In Saptamsa Lords of the 9th and 10th are in

> parivartana.

>

> 9th from UL is lorded by Saturn and aspected by

> Mars, which is a combination for adopting children.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us (AT) (DOT)

com>

> @

. com

> Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:34:05 PM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

> this is 21:45 PM not

> AM

>

> --- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal> wrote:

>

> > Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Mukesh,

> >

> > What is 21:45am?

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal

> >

> > MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us>

> >

> > Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:16:37 AM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

> >

> > Respected gurus,

> >

> > Here is a case of my relative she is unable to

> >

> > conceive for last 15 years and now she lost all

> her

> >

> > hopes . If some one can study her case and

> suggest

> >

> > some thing would be great for ailing couple

> >

> > Neeru

> >

> > 06-march-1969

> >

> > 21.45 am, delhi

> >

> > husband

> >

> > 30-jan-1965

> >

> > 03.00 am

> >

> > delhi

> >

> > my little knowledge about the subjects says her

> >

> > husband saturn-sun relationship is not good.

> after 5

> >

> > years of marriage his planets actually made wife

> a

> >

> > barren. Not only that if they adopt a child he or

> > she

> >

> > will also die . No santan gopal ytar will work

> here

> >

> > and i also see in her horscope some black magic

> done

> >

> > by near one to stop child birth .

> >

> > so now please check case and suggest something .

> >

> > warm regards

> >

> > mukesh

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________

> _________

> > _________ _

> >

> > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly

> Here

> > and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at

>

> > Games.

> >

> > http://get.games. / proddesc?

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August 27, 2007

Dear Mukhesh Chandji,

The Janma lagnam is Thula and the Chandra lagnam is Kanya.The Panchamadhipathy being Shani is debilitated.He is with venus who is the eigth lord from Janma lagnam and both Shani and Venus are placed in the eigth from Moon sign.Sun a malefic is in the fifth house from Chandra Lagnam.All such indications are adverse factors in respect of causing child birth.Similarly the potra Karaka jupiter is in the twelfth from Janma lagnam.He is aspected by Rahu.He is with Ketu.Mars aspects the fifth house from the Janma lagnam.Again these are adverse factors.?Saturn is also debilitated in the Navamsa diagram.Venus and Saturn are in Vargottamamsam.

Saturn is debilitated in Saptamsam too and again he is with Venus there also.Saturn who is the Lord of the fifth house aspects the fifth house from Moon sign.Shani as the lord of the fifth house causes the " Kaka Vandhya Dosham " .Saturn and Venus are in Zero degrees of Aries.It is a weak position for them.There is " Graha Uddham " .etc.We have to examine " Beeja and Kshetra " also.Sun the " badhakadhipathy " is situated in the fifth house.

As Mars is in own sign possibly Venus and saturn are not without strength.saturn is successful in the war.venus is in a Lagna kendram who causes " NeechaBhangam " to Saturn.No planet is combust.Jupiter is with Moon having " Pakasha Balam " .Mercury ,a friend of Saturn is in the fifth house from Moon sign.Jupiter has retrograded towards the eleventh house.Retrogression adds strength to him.There is " Kuja DOsham " both from the Janma Lagnam and Venus.But Mars is in own sign.Possibly that is good.

The " Putra Karaka " jupiters dasa has been in progress since 7-9-1994.and it lasts upto 7-9-2010.

It is absolutely clearly visible therefore that suitable Shanthi Pariharas have to be done.to attain " Putra Yogam " .

What more the " Seven and half year Shanis period " has commenced for the native presently.Sahni being the fifth lord.?He progresses towards the Putra Karaka during the course of his transits.

Mars Bhukthi in Jupiters Mahardasa is between 5-5-2007 and 10-4-2008.

Unless suitable Shanthi pariharas are done the possibility of begetting a child cant become a certainity for the native.

You are welcome to give your kind comments.

Regards,

jagannathan.

On 8/22/07, MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us wrote:

Respected gurus,Here is a case of my relative she is unable toconceive for last 15 years and now she lost all herhopes . If some one can study her case and suggestsome thing would be great for ailing couple Neeru06-march-196921.45 am, delhihusband30-jan-196503.00 amdelhimy little knowledge about the subjects says herhusband saturn-sun relationship is not good. after 5years of marriage his planets actually made wife a

barren. Not only that if they adopt a child he or shewill also die . No santan gopal ytar will work hereand i also see in her horscope some black magic doneby near one to stop child birth .so now please check case and suggest something . warm regardsmukesh ________Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games.

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August 28, 2007

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Dear Michal, Namaskar

Always check the Saptamsa for the final answer. In the husbands chart

the Lagnesha is in trikona to budha and shukra, whilst receiving the

dristi of Shani. Shani is yuti Mangala showing the way out of the

situation. Hence the reason i said this.

Now, tell me based on the wifes chart why the husband is having a

problem?

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

Michal Dziwulski wrote:

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

Dear Visti,

In the husbands chart the pada of the 9th house from Sun is placed in

the 12th house from the Sun and conjoined vargottama Mercury and

Venus.Â This shows an inability to sustain an Atma which I thought was

a non-physical condition.Â So how could medical intervention help?Â I

can see Moon conjoining this combination indicating the doctor and Mars

is having drsti showing surgery, but how can we say that this will be

successful?Â Especially given that Karaka and 5th lord Jupiter is in

the 6th house aspected by malefics.

Respectfully,

Michal

-----

Original Message ----

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

Monday, August 27, 2007 7:18:49 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Mukesh, Namaskar

The problem seems to be the husbands particularly due to some mistakes

he has been making in his lifestyle.

This can be solved through operation (mars), but definitely its

the

doctor who needs to assess this.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

Michal Dziwulski wrote:

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

Dear Mukesh,

There is a curse of Brahmin in this chart also.Â Jupiter is recieving

the Graha drsti of Rahu and Saturn who own the 5th house.Â As this is

in the 12th house the curse is severe, and Atmakaraka Shani is involved

so even worse.Â She is running Jupiter dasa so this karma she is

experiencing.

As for the remedy - is there a remedy?Â Perhaps being childless in a

way is the remedy.Â Worship of Shiva on Mondays would be a good start.

Respectfully,

Michal

-----

Original Message ----

MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us >

Sunday, August 26, 2007 12:03:44 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

So what is the remedy .

This is good analysis .but i want remedy sir,

regards

mukesh

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal (AT) (DOT)

com> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Mukesh,

>

> Unfortunately Neeru has some combinations in her

> chart which are preventing children. This would

> have been very difficult as retrograde Jupiter can

> produce a strong desire for children.

>

> * Karakamsha has the association of Saturn, Ketu,

> and Mercury because of parivartana.

>

> * In Rasi, MKS Mercury is the 9th lord and is placed

> in the 5th from Jupiter. A3 and A9 are poorly

> placed from Lagna.

>

> * In Saptamsa Lords of the 9th and 10th are in

> parivartana.

>

> 9th from UL is lorded by Saturn and aspected by

> Mars, which is a combination for adopting children.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us (AT) (DOT)

com>

> @

. com

> Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:34:05 PM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

> this is 21:45 PM not

> AM

>

> --- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal> wrote:

>

> > Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Mukesh,

> >

> > What is 21:45am?

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal

> >

> > MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us>

> >

> > Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:16:37 AM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

> >

> > Respected gurus,

> >

> > Here is a case of my relative she is unable to

> >

> > conceive for last 15 years and now she lost all

> her

> >

> > hopes . If some one can study her case and

> suggest

> >

> > some thing would be great for ailing couple

> >

> > Neeru

> >

> > 06-march-1969

> >

> > 21.45 am, delhi

> >

> > husband

> >

> > 30-jan-1965

> >

> > 03.00 am

> >

> > delhi

> >

> > my little knowledge about the subjects says her

> >

> > husband saturn-sun relationship is not good.

> after 5

> >

> > years of marriage his planets actually made wife

> a

> >

> > barren. Not only that if they adopt a child he or

> > she

> >

> > will also die . No santan gopal ytar will work

> here

> >

> > and i also see in her horscope some black magic

> done

> >

> > by near one to stop child birth .

> >

> > so now please check case and suggest something .

> >

> > warm regards

> >

> > mukesh

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________

> _________

> > _________ _

> >

> > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly

> Here

> > and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at

>

> > Games.

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August 28, 2007

Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Visti,Here is my thinking, I am not certain about any of these points so please correct me where I'm wrong.* 7th lord in Rasi has drsti of Mercury and Venus?* 7th lord in Navamsa is in parivartana with Jupiter (karaka for children) as well as being heavily afflicted.* Karaka for husband, Jupiter is afflicted in Rasi and Navamsa? However Jupiter is also karaka for children, and we know there is a problem related to the same. So, is there a way we could say it is both Husband and children?* DK is Venus. Jupiter is in the 6th from Venus, and hence in its Marana Karaka Sthana position.Respectfully,MichalVisti Larsen <visti Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:07:33 PMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

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Dear Michal, Namaskar

Always check the Saptamsa for the final answer. In the husbands chart

the Lagnesha is in trikona to budha and shukra, whilst receiving the

dristi of Shani. Shani is yuti Mangala showing the way out of the

situation. Hence the reason i said this.

Now, tell me based on the wifes chart why the husband is having a

problem?

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

Michal Dziwulski wrote:

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

Dear Visti,

In the husbands chart the pada of the 9th house from Sun is placed in

the 12th house from the Sun and conjoined vargottama Mercury and

Venus. This shows an inability to sustain an Atma which I thought was

a non-physical condition. So how could medical intervention help? I

can see Moon conjoining this combination indicating the doctor and Mars

is having drsti showing surgery, but how can we say that this will be

successful? Especially given that Karaka and 5th lord Jupiter is in

the 6th house aspected by malefics.

Respectfully,

Michal

-----

Original Message ----

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

Monday, August 27, 2007 7:18:49 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Mukesh, Namaskar

The problem seems to be the husbands particularly due to some mistakes

he has been making in his lifestyle.

This can be solved through operation (mars), but definitely its

the

doctor who needs to assess this.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

Michal Dziwulski wrote:

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

Dear Mukesh,

There is a curse of Brahmin in this chart also. Jupiter is recieving

the Graha drsti of Rahu and Saturn who own the 5th house. As this is

in the 12th house the curse is severe, and Atmakaraka Shani is involved

so even worse. She is running Jupiter dasa so this karma she is

experiencing.

As for the remedy - is there a remedy? Perhaps being childless in a

way is the remedy. Worship of Shiva on Mondays would be a good start.

Respectfully,

Michal

-----

Original Message ----

MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us >

Sunday, August 26, 2007 12:03:44 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

So what is the remedy .

This is good analysis .but i want remedy sir,

regards

mukesh

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal (AT) (DOT)

com> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Mukesh,

>

> Unfortunately Neeru has some combinations in her

> chart which are preventing children. This would

> have been very difficult as retrograde Jupiter can

> produce a strong desire for children.

>

> * Karakamsha has the association of Saturn, Ketu,

> and Mercury because of parivartana.

>

> * In Rasi, MKS Mercury is the 9th lord and is placed

> in the 5th from Jupiter. A3 and A9 are poorly

> placed from Lagna.

>

> * In Saptamsa Lords of the 9th and 10th are in

> parivartana.

>

> 9th from UL is lorded by Saturn and aspected by

> Mars, which is a combination for adopting children.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us (AT) (DOT)

com>

> @

. com

> Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:34:05 PM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

> this is 21:45 PM not

> AM

>

> --- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal> wrote:

>

> > Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Mukesh,

> >

> > What is 21:45am?

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal

> >

> > MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us>

> >

> > Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:16:37 AM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

> >

> > Respected gurus,

> >

> > Here is a case of my relative she is unable to

> >

> > conceive for last 15 years and now she lost all

> her

> >

> > hopes . If some one can study her case and

> suggest

> >

> > some thing would be great for ailing couple

> >

> > Neeru

> >

> > 06-march-1969

> >

> > 21.45 am, delhi

> >

> > husband

> >

> > 30-jan-1965

> >

> > 03.00 am

> >

> > delhi

> >

> > my little knowledge about the subjects says her

> >

> > husband saturn-sun relationship is not good.

> after 5

> >

> > years of marriage his planets actually made wife

> a

> >

> > barren. Not only that if they adopt a child he or

> > she

> >

> > will also die . No santan gopal ytar will work

> here

> >

> > and i also see in her horscope some black magic

> done

> >

> > by near one to stop child birth .

> >

> > so now please check case and suggest something .

> >

> > warm regards

> >

> > mukesh

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________

> _________

> > _________ _

> >

> > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly

> Here

> > and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at

>

> > Games.

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hare rama krsna

Dear Michael,

The answer rather would lie in Upapada as Your points (except 7L in D9)

are still connected to native.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

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Michal Dziwulski napisaÅ‚(a):

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

Dear Visti,

Here is my thinking, I am not certain about any of these points so

please correct me where I'm wrong.

* 7th lord in Rasi has drsti of Mercury and Venus?

* 7th lord in Navamsa is in parivartana with Jupiter (karaka for

children) as well as being heavily afflicted.

* Karaka for husband, Jupiter is afflicted in Rasi and Navamsa?Â

However Jupiter is also karaka for children, and we know there is a

problem related to the same.Â So, is there a way we could say it is

both Husband and children?

* DK is Venus.Â Jupiter is in the 6th from Venus, and hence in its

Marana Karaka Sthana position.

Respectfully,

Michal

-----

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Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:07:33 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Michal, Namaskar

Always check the Saptamsa for the final answer. In the husbands chart

the Lagnesha is in trikona to budha and shukra, whilst receiving the

dristi of Shani. Shani is yuti Mangala showing the way out of the

situation. Hence the reason i said this.

Now, tell me based on the wifes chart why the husband is having a

problem?

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

Michal Dziwulski wrote:

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

Dear Visti,

In the husbands chart the pada of the 9th house from Sun is placed in

the 12th house from the Sun and conjoined vargottama Mercury and

Venus.Â This shows an inability to sustain an Atma which I thought was

a non-physical condition.Â So how could medical intervention help?Â I

can see Moon conjoining this combination indicating the doctor and Mars

is having drsti showing surgery, but how can we say that this will be

successful?Â Especially given that Karaka and 5th lord Jupiter is in

the 6th house aspected by malefics.

Respectfully,

Michal

-----

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Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

Monday, August 27, 2007 7:18:49 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Mukesh, Namaskar

The problem seems to be the husbands particularly due to some mistakes

he has been making in his lifestyle.

This can be solved through operation (mars), but definitely its

the

doctor who needs to assess this.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

Michal Dziwulski wrote:

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

Dear Mukesh,

There is a curse of Brahmin in this chart also.Â Jupiter is recieving

the Graha drsti of Rahu and Saturn who own the 5th house.Â As this is

in the 12th house the curse is severe, and Atmakaraka Shani is involved

so even worse.Â She is running Jupiter dasa so this karma she is

experiencing.

As for the remedy - is there a remedy?Â Perhaps being childless in a

way is the remedy.Â Worship of Shiva on Mondays would be a good start.

Respectfully,

Michal

-----

Original Message ----

MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us (AT) (DOT)

com>

Sunday, August 26, 2007 12:03:44 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

So what is the remedy .

This is good analysis .but i want remedy sir,

regards

mukesh

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal (AT) (DOT)

com> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Mukesh,

>

> Unfortunately Neeru has some combinations in her

> chart which are preventing children. This would

> have been very difficult as retrograde Jupiter can

> produce a strong desire for children.

>

> * Karakamsha has the association of Saturn, Ketu,

> and Mercury because of parivartana.

>

> * In Rasi, MKS Mercury is the 9th lord and is placed

> in the 5th from Jupiter. A3 and A9 are poorly

> placed from Lagna.

>

> * In Saptamsa Lords of the 9th and 10th are in

> parivartana.

>

> 9th from UL is lorded by Saturn and aspected by

> Mars, which is a combination for adopting children.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us (AT) (DOT)

com>

> @

. com

> Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:34:05 PM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

> this is 21:45 PM not

> AM

>

> --- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal> wrote:

>

> > Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Mukesh,

> >

> > What is 21:45am?

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal

> >

> > MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us>

> >

> > Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:16:37 AM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

> >

> > Respected gurus,

> >

> > Here is a case of my relative she is unable to

> >

> > conceive for last 15 years and now she lost all

> her

> >

> > hopes . If some one can study her case and

> suggest

> >

> > some thing would be great for ailing couple

> >

> > Neeru

> >

> > 06-march-1969

> >

> > 21.45 am, delhi

> >

> > husband

> >

> > 30-jan-1965

> >

> > 03.00 am

> >

> > delhi

> >

> > my little knowledge about the subjects says her

> >

> > husband saturn-sun relationship is not good.

> after 5

> >

> > years of marriage his planets actually made wife

> a

> >

> > barren. Not only that if they adopt a child he or

> > she

> >

> > will also die . No santan gopal ytar will work

> here

> >

> > and i also see in her horscope some black magic

> done

> >

> > by near one to stop child birth .

> >

> > so now please check case and suggest something .

> >

> > warm regards

> >

> > mukesh

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________

> _________

> > _________ _

> >

> > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly

> Here

> > and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at

>

> > Games.

> >

> > http://get.games.

/ proddesc?

> > gamekey=monopoly herenow

> >

> > <!--

> >

> > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial,

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Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rafal,Sometimes your one-liners are quite difficult to interpret. Let me try to understand what you're saying. 7th lord in Rasi doesn't have anything to do with the spouse? But I have seen Jyotishi's use the 7th house and its lord to describe the spouse accurately.9th from UL can show the children coming from the marriage, but how can we see the spouse himself and his problems from UL? Please elaborate.Respectfully,MichalRafal Gendarz

<starsuponme Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:00:58 AMRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

hare rama krsna

Dear Michael,

The answer rather would lie in Upapada as Your points (except 7L in D9)

are still connected to native.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Consultations & Articles:

www.rohinaa. com

Rohinaa Forum: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl

Michal Dziwulski napisaÅ‚(a):

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

Dear Visti,

Here is my thinking, I am not certain about any of these points so

please correct me where I'm wrong.

* 7th lord in Rasi has drsti of Mercury and Venus?

* 7th lord in Navamsa is in parivartana with Jupiter (karaka for

children) as well as being heavily afflicted.

* Karaka for husband, Jupiter is afflicted in Rasi and Navamsa?

However Jupiter is also karaka for children, and we know there is a

problem related to the same. So, is there a way we could say it is

both Husband and children?

* DK is Venus. Jupiter is in the 6th from Venus, and hence in its

Marana Karaka Sthana position.

Respectfully,

Michal

-----

Original Message ----

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:07:33 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Michal, Namaskar

Always check the Saptamsa for the final answer. In the husbands chart

the Lagnesha is in trikona to budha and shukra, whilst receiving the

dristi of Shani. Shani is yuti Mangala showing the way out of the

situation. Hence the reason i said this.

Now, tell me based on the wifes chart why the husband is having a

problem?

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

Michal Dziwulski wrote:

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

Dear Visti,

In the husbands chart the pada of the 9th house from Sun is placed in

the 12th house from the Sun and conjoined vargottama Mercury and

Venus. This shows an inability to sustain an Atma which I thought was

a non-physical condition. So how could medical intervention help? I

can see Moon conjoining this combination indicating the doctor and Mars

is having drsti showing surgery, but how can we say that this will be

successful? Especially given that Karaka and 5th lord Jupiter is in

the 6th house aspected by malefics.

Respectfully,

Michal

-----

Original Message ----

Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

Monday, August 27, 2007 7:18:49 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Mukesh, Namaskar

The problem seems to be the husbands particularly due to some mistakes

he has been making in his lifestyle.

This can be solved through operation (mars), but definitely its

the

doctor who needs to assess this.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

Michal Dziwulski wrote:

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

Dear Mukesh,

There is a curse of Brahmin in this chart also. Jupiter is recieving

the Graha drsti of Rahu and Saturn who own the 5th house. As this is

in the 12th house the curse is severe, and Atmakaraka Shani is involved

so even worse. She is running Jupiter dasa so this karma she is

experiencing.

As for the remedy - is there a remedy? Perhaps being childless in a

way is the remedy. Worship of Shiva on Mondays would be a good start.

Respectfully,

Michal

-----

Original Message ----

MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us (AT) (DOT)

com>

Sunday, August 26, 2007 12:03:44 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

So what is the remedy .

This is good analysis .but i want remedy sir,

regards

mukesh

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal (AT) (DOT)

com> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Mukesh,

>

> Unfortunately Neeru has some combinations in her

> chart which are preventing children. This would

> have been very difficult as retrograde Jupiter can

> produce a strong desire for children.

>

> * Karakamsha has the association of Saturn, Ketu,

> and Mercury because of parivartana.

>

> * In Rasi, MKS Mercury is the 9th lord and is placed

> in the 5th from Jupiter. A3 and A9 are poorly

> placed from Lagna.

>

> * In Saptamsa Lords of the 9th and 10th are in

> parivartana.

>

> 9th from UL is lorded by Saturn and aspected by

> Mars, which is a combination for adopting children.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us (AT) (DOT)

com>

> @

. com

> Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:34:05 PM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

> this is 21:45 PM not

> AM

>

> --- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal> wrote:

>

> > Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Mukesh,

> >

> > What is 21:45am?

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal

> >

> > MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us>

> >

> > Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:16:37 AM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

> >

> > Respected gurus,

> >

> > Here is a case of my relative she is unable to

> >

> > conceive for last 15 years and now she lost all

> her

> >

> > hopes . If some one can study her case and

> suggest

> >

> > some thing would be great for ailing couple

> >

> > Neeru

> >

> > 06-march-1969

> >

> > 21.45 am, delhi

> >

> > husband

> >

> > 30-jan-1965

> >

> > 03.00 am

> >

> > delhi

> >

> > my little knowledge about the subjects says her

> >

> > husband saturn-sun relationship is not good.

> after 5

> >

> > years of marriage his planets actually made wife

> a

> >

> > barren. Not only that if they adopt a child he or

> > she

> >

> > will also die . No santan gopal ytar will work

> here

> >

> > and i also see in her horscope some black magic

> done

> >

> > by near one to stop child birth .

> >

> > so now please check case and suggest something .

> >

> > warm regards

> >

> > mukesh

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________

> _________

> > _________ _

> >

> > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly

> Here

> > and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at

>

> > Games.

> >

> > http://get.games.

/ proddesc?

> > gamekey=monopoly herenow

> >

> > <!--

> >

> > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px; font-family: arial,

> > helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}

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Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!

Play

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Games.

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August 30, 2007

respected guru's,

if you all arrive at some

consensus and suggest something to come out of this .

as layman i can only say studying her horo without

seeing her husband horo doe'snt make sense to me .

regards

mukesh

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> Sometimes your one-liners are quite difficult to

> interpret. Let me try to understand what you're

> saying. 7th lord in Rasi doesn't have anything to

> do with the spouse? But I have seen Jyotishi's use

> the 7th house and its lord to describe the spouse

> accurately.

>

> 9th from UL can show the children coming from the

> marriage, but how can we see the spouse himself and

> his problems from UL? Please elaborate.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme

>

> Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:00:58 AM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

hare rama krsna

>

> Dear Michael,

>

> The answer rather would lie in Upapada as Your

> points (except 7L in D9)

> are still connected to native.

>

> Regards,

>

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

>

> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

>

> Consultations & Articles:

> www.rohinaa. com

>

> Rohinaa Forum: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl

>

> Michal Dziwulski napisaÅ‚(a):

>

> Hare

> Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Here is my thinking, I am not certain about any of

> these points so

> please correct me where I'm wrong.

>

> * 7th lord in Rasi has drsti of Mercury and Venus?

>

> * 7th lord in Navamsa is in parivartana with Jupiter

> (karaka for

> children) as well as being heavily afflicted.

>

> * Karaka for husband, Jupiter is afflicted in Rasi

> and Navamsa?

> However Jupiter is also karaka for children, and we

> know there is a

> problem related to the same. So, is there a way we

> could say it is

> both Husband and children?

>

> * DK is Venus. Jupiter is in the 6th from Venus,

> and hence in its

> Marana Karaka Sthana position.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Michal

>

> -----

> Original Message ----

>

> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

>

> Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:07:33 PM

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

> à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Michal, Namaskar

>

> Always check the Saptamsa for the final answer. In

> the husbands chart

> the Lagnesha is in trikona to budha and shukra,

> whilst receiving the

> dristi of Shani. Shani is yuti Mangala showing the

> way out of the

> situation. Hence the reason i said this.

>

> Now, tell me based on the wifes chart why the

> husband is having a

> problem?

>

> Yours sincerely,

>

> --

>

> Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

>

> Jaimini SJC - Denmark

>

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

>

> For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit:

> http://srigaruda. com

>

> Michal Dziwulski wrote:

>

> Hare

> Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> In the husbands chart the pada of the 9th house from

> Sun is placed in

> the 12th house from the Sun and conjoined vargottama

> Mercury and

> Venus. This shows an inability to sustain an Atma

> which I thought was

> a non-physical condition. So how could medical

> intervention help? I

>

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हरे राम कृष्ण॥

Dear Mukesh, Rafal and Michal, Namaskar

As you would see from my previous mail, we have analyzed both charts

and given advise and remedies. Now I asked Michal whether he could have

made his prediction solely based on the wifes chart, as the husband and

wife do indeed share karma with each other.

Michal and Rafal are both right, but Rafal is definitely straight to

the point on this one.

Michal you are right in your observation of the seventh lord in rasi

as it will undoubtedly show which type of spouse we are

attracting/attracted to, and our entire attitude towards relationships

to begin with. It doesn't serve as an accurate description of the

spouse however, yet is extremely relevant no doubt. For an accurate

description see the seventh house in Navamsa.

More accurately to see the children OR lack of the same, see the

Upapada. If Mercury, Saturn and Venus all associate with the Upapada or

second from it, or their lords, then strong likelihood of infertility

on part of the spouse is indicated. The same influencing the ninth from

Upapada shows whether this will delay or deny children all together.

I think that clarifies things. Michal has advised Shiva worship and

i have advised medical intervention.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

MUKESH ANAND wrote:

respected guru's,

if you all arrive at some

consensus and suggest something to come out of this .

as layman i can only say studying her horo without

seeing her husband horo doe'snt make sense to me .

regards

mukesh

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >

wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> Sometimes your one-liners are quite difficult to

> interpret. Let me try to understand what you're

> saying. 7th lord in Rasi doesn't have anything to

> do with the spouse? But I have seen Jyotishi's use

> the 7th house and its lord to describe the spouse

> accurately.

>

> 9th from UL can show the children coming from the

> marriage, but how can we see the spouse himself and

> his problems from UL? Please elaborate.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

>

> Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:00:58 AM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

> hare rama krsna

>

> Dear Michael,

>

> The answer rather would lie in Upapada as Your

> points (except 7L in D9)

> are still connected to native.

>

> Regards,

>

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> Sri Jagannath Center Guru

>

> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

>

> Consultations & Articles:

> www.rohinaa. com

>

> Rohinaa Forum: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl

>

> Michal Dziwulski napisaÅ‚(a):

>

> Hare

> Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Here is my thinking, I am not certain about any of

> these points so

> please correct me where I'm wrong.

>

> * 7th lord in Rasi has drsti of Mercury and Venus?

>

> * 7th lord in Navamsa is in parivartana with Jupiter

> (karaka for

> children) as well as being heavily afflicted.

>

> * Karaka for husband, Jupiter is afflicted in Rasi

> and Navamsa?

> However Jupiter is also karaka for children, and we

> know there is a

> problem related to the same. So, is there a way we

> could say it is

> both Husband and children?

>

> * DK is Venus. Jupiter is in the 6th from Venus,

> and hence in its

> Marana Karaka Sthana position.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Michal

>

> -----

> Original Message ----

>

> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

>

> Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:07:33 PM

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

> à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Michal, Namaskar

>

> Always check the Saptamsa for the final answer. In

> the husbands chart

> the Lagnesha is in trikona to budha and shukra,

> whilst receiving the

> dristi of Shani. Shani is yuti Mangala showing the

> way out of the

> situation. Hence the reason i said this.

>

> Now, tell me based on the wifes chart why the

> husband is having a

> problem?

>

> Yours sincerely,

>

> --

>

> Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

>

> Jaimini SJC - Denmark

>

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

>

> For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit:

> http://srigaruda.

com

>

> Michal Dziwulski wrote:

>

> Hare

> Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> In the husbands chart the pada of the 9th house from

> Sun is placed in

> the 12th house from the Sun and conjoined vargottama

> Mercury and

> Venus. This shows an inability to sustain an Atma

> which I thought was

> a non-physical condition. So how could medical

> intervention help? I

>

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Namaste Visti

Trusting this note receives you and your â€œgoodâ€

wife in good health and spirits (?) â€¦â€¦..

Wondering whether you can clarify a few

points for me from your note below regarding children?

Why only 2nd and 9th from UL? What about 5th?

Â

Also is the affliction by Mer, Ven and

Sani more pronounced to the House Lords or the Houses themselves re:denial of children?

Appreciate 2nd is for â€œfamilyâ€ - is this

the reason why? I thought â€œfamilyâ€ was more to do with ones â€œclose relativesâ€

as opposed from ones â€œown childrenâ€?

Inaddition re:counting

from UL â€“ is it not dependent upon whether UL is placed in an â€œevenâ€ or â€œoddâ€

sign?

Thanks and best wishes â€¦â€¦

Jai Sita Ram

Ram

On Behalf Of Visti Larsen

30 August 2007 09:35

Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Childless

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear

Mukesh, Rafal and Michal, Namaskar

As you would see from my previous mail, we have analyzed both charts and given

advise and remedies. Now I asked Michal whether he could have made his

prediction solely based on the wifes chart, as the husband and wife do indeed

share karma with each other.

Michal

and Rafal are both right, but Rafal is definitely straight to the point on this

one.

Michal

you are right in your observation of the seventh lord in rasi as it will

undoubtedly show which type of spouse we are attracting/attracted to, and

our entire attitude towards relationships to begin with. It doesn't serve as an

accurate description of the spouse however, yet is extremely relevant no doubt.

For an accurate description see the seventh house in Navamsa.

More

accurately to see the children OR lack of the same, see the Upapada. If

Mercury, Saturn and Venus all associate with the Upapada or second from it, or

their lords, then strong likelihood of infertility on part of the spouse is

indicated. The same influencing the ninth from Upapada shows whether this will

delay or deny children all together.

I think

that clarifies things. Michal has advised Shiva worship and i have advised

medical intervention.

Yours

sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

MUKESH ANAND wrote:

respected

guru's,

if you all arrive at some

consensus and suggest something to come out of this .

as layman i can only say studying her horo without

seeing her husband horo doe'snt make sense to me .

regards

mukesh

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >

wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> Sometimes your one-liners are quite difficult to

> interpret. Let me try to understand what you're

> saying. 7th lord in Rasi doesn't have anything to

> do with the spouse? But I have seen Jyotishi's use

> the 7th house and its lord to describe the spouse

> accurately.

>

> 9th from UL can show the children coming from the

> marriage, but how can we see the spouse himself and

> his problems from UL? Please elaborate.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

>

> Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:00:58 AM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

> hare rama krsna

>

> Dear Michael,

>

> The answer rather would lie in Upapada as Your

> points (except 7L in D9)

> are still connected to native.

>

> Regards,

>

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> Sri Jagannath Center

Guru

>

> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

>

> Consultations & Articles:

> www.rohinaa. com

>

> Rohinaa Forum: http://www.rohinaa.

fora.pl

>

> Michal Dziwulski napisaÃ…â€š(a):

>

> Hare

> Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Here is my thinking, I am not certain about any of

> these points so

> please correct me where I'm wrong.

>

> * 7th lord in Rasi has drsti of Mercury and Venus?

>

> * 7th lord in Navamsa is in parivartana with Jupiter

> (karaka for

> children) as well as being heavily afflicted.

>

> * Karaka for husband, Jupiter is afflicted in Rasi

> and Navamsa?

> However Jupiter is also karaka for children, and we

> know there is a

> problem related to the same. So, is there a way we

> could say it is

> both Husband and children?

>

> * DK is Venus. Jupiter is in the 6th from Venus,

> and hence in its

> Marana Karaka Sthana position.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Michal

>

> -----

> Original Message ----

>

> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>

>

> Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:07:33 PM

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

>

> Dear Michal, Namaskar

>

> Always check the Saptamsa for the final answer. In

> the husbands chart

> the Lagnesha is in trikona to budha and shukra,

> whilst receiving the

> dristi of Shani. Shani is yuti Mangala showing the

> way out of the

> situation. Hence the reason i said this.

>

> Now, tell me based on the wifes chart why the

> husband is having a

> problem?

>

> Yours sincerely,

>

> --

>

> Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

>

> Jaimini SJC - Denmark

>

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

>

> For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit:

> http://srigaruda. com

>

> Michal Dziwulski wrote:

>

> Hare

> Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> In the husbands chart the pada of the 9th house from

> Sun is placed in

> the 12th house from the Sun and conjoined vargottama

> Mercury and

> Venus. This shows an inability to sustain an Atma

> which I thought was

> a non-physical condition. So how could medical

> intervention help? I

>

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Dear Mukesh, For the sake of knowledge did this couple married either in the month of Nov/Dec 1992 or in Mar 1996 ? If not then what is the date of marriage ? As per this chart of female, there might be some obstruction in the reproductive organ. Did this couple saught the advice of Gyanacologist ? Had she ever been gone to D & C operation ? Hope you will give some feed back. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us wrote: So what is the remedy .This is good analysis .but i want remedy sir,regardsmukesh --- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:> Hare Rama Krsna ||> > Dear Mukesh,> > Unfortunately Neeru has some combinations in her> chart which are preventing children. This would> have been very difficult as retrograde Jupiter can> produce a strong desire for children.> > * Karakamsha has the association of Saturn, Ketu,> and Mercury because of parivartana.> > * In Rasi, MKS Mercury is the 9th lord and is placed> in the 5th from Jupiter. A3 and A9 are poorly> placed from Lagna.> > * In Saptamsa Lords of the 9th and 10th are in> parivartana.> > 9th from UL is lorded by Saturn and aspected by> Mars,

which is a combination for adopting children.> > Respectfully,> Michal> > > > > MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us >> > Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:34:05 PM> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless> > this is 21:45 PM not> AM> > --- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal > wrote:> > > Hare Rama Krsna ||> > > > Dear Mukesh,> > > > What is 21:45am?> > > > Respectfully,> > Michal> > > > > > MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us >> > > > Thursday, August 23,

2007 6:16:37 AM> > [Om Krishna Guru] Childless> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected gurus,> > > > Here is a case of my relative she is unable to> > > > conceive for last 15 years and now she lost all> her> > > > hopes . If some one can study her case and> suggest> > > > some thing would be great for ailing couple > > > > > > > > Neeru> > > > 06-march-1969> > > > 21.45 am, delhi> > > > > > > > husband> > > > 30-jan-1965> > > > 03.00 am> > > > delhi> > > > > > > > my little knowledge

about the subjects says her> > > > husband saturn-sun relationship is not good.> after 5> > > > years of marriage his planets actually made wife> a> > > > barren. Not only that if they adopt a child he or> > she> > > > will also die . No santan gopal ytar will work> here> > > > and i also see in her horscope some black magic> done> > > > by near one to stop child birth .> > > > > > > > so now please check case and suggest something . > > > > > > > > warm regards> > > > mukesh > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________> _________> > _________ _> > > > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly> Here> > and

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hare rama krsna

Dear Michael,

When napumsaka yoga touches UL (kona) then spouse has that kind of

problem. That was taught in Serbija.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal

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Michal Dziwulski napisaÅ‚(a):

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

Dear Rafal,

Sometimes your one-liners are quite difficult to interpret.Â Let me try

to understand what you're saying.Â 7th lord in Rasi doesn't have

anything to do with the spouse?Â But I have seen Jyotishi's use the 7th

house and its lord to describe the spouse accurately.

9th from UL can show the children coming from the marriage, but how can

we see the spouse himself and his problems from UL?Â Please elaborate.

Respectfully,

Michal

-----

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Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:00:58 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

hare rama krsna

Dear Michael,

The answer rather would lie in Upapada as Your points (except 7L in D9)

are still connected to native.

Regards,

Rafal Gendarz

Sri Jagannath Center Guru

email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

Consultations & Articles:

www.rohinaa. com

Rohinaa Forum: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl

Michal Dziwulski napisaÅ‚(a):

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

Dear Visti,

Here is my thinking, I am not certain about any of these points so

please correct me where I'm wrong.

* 7th lord in Rasi has drsti of Mercury and Venus?

* 7th lord in Navamsa is in parivartana with Jupiter (karaka for

children) as well as being heavily afflicted.

* Karaka for husband, Jupiter is afflicted in Rasi and Navamsa?Â

However Jupiter is also karaka for children, and we know there is a

problem related to the same.Â So, is there a way we could say it is

both Husband and children?

* DK is Venus.Â Jupiter is in the 6th from Venus, and hence in its

Marana Karaka Sthana position.

Respectfully,

Michal

-----

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Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:07:33 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Michal, Namaskar

Always check the Saptamsa for the final answer. In the husbands chart

the Lagnesha is in trikona to budha and shukra, whilst receiving the

dristi of Shani. Shani is yuti Mangala showing the way out of the

situation. Hence the reason i said this.

Now, tell me based on the wifes chart why the husband is having

a

problem?

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

Michal Dziwulski wrote:

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

Dear Visti,

In the husbands chart the pada of the 9th house from Sun is placed in

the 12th house from the Sun and conjoined vargottama Mercury and

Venus.Â This shows an inability to sustain an Atma which I thought was

a non-physical condition.Â So how could medical intervention help?Â I

can see Moon conjoining this combination indicating the doctor and Mars

is having drsti showing surgery, but how can we say that this will be

successful?Â Especially given that Karaka and 5th lord Jupiter is in

the 6th house aspected by malefics.

Respectfully,

Michal

-----

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Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>

Monday, August 27, 2007 7:18:49 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

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Dear Mukesh, Namaskar

The problem seems to be the husbands particularly due to some mistakes

he has been making in his lifestyle.

This can be solved through operation (mars), but definitely

its

the

doctor who needs to assess this.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com

Michal Dziwulski wrote:

Hare

Rama Krsna ||

Dear Mukesh,

There is a curse of Brahmin in this chart also.Â Jupiter is recieving

the Graha drsti of Rahu and Saturn who own the 5th house.Â As this is

in the 12th house the curse is severe, and Atmakaraka Shani is involved

so even worse.Â She is running Jupiter dasa so this karma she is

experiencing.

As for the remedy - is there a remedy?Â Perhaps being childless in a

way is the remedy.Â Worship of Shiva on Mondays would be a good start.

Respectfully,

Michal

-----

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MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us (AT) (DOT)

com>

Sunday, August 26, 2007 12:03:44 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

So what is the remedy .

This is good analysis .but i want remedy sir,

regards

mukesh

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal (AT) (DOT)

com> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Mukesh,

>

> Unfortunately Neeru has some combinations in her

> chart which are preventing children. This would

> have been very difficult as retrograde Jupiter can

> produce a strong desire for children.

>

> * Karakamsha has the association of Saturn, Ketu,

> and Mercury because of parivartana.

>

> * In Rasi, MKS Mercury is the 9th lord and is placed

> in the 5th from Jupiter. A3 and A9 are poorly

> placed from Lagna.

>

> * In Saptamsa Lords of the 9th and 10th are in

> parivartana.

>

> 9th from UL is lorded by Saturn and aspected by

> Mars, which is a combination for adopting children.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us (AT) (DOT)

com>

> @

. com

> Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:34:05 PM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

> this is 21:45 PM not

> AM

>

> --- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal> wrote:

>

> > Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Mukesh,

> >

> > What is 21:45am?

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal

> >

> > MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us>

> >

> > Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:16:37 AM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

> >

> > Respected gurus,

> >

> > Here is a case of my relative she is unable to

> >

> > conceive for last 15 years and now she lost all

> her

> >

> > hopes . If some one can study her case and

> suggest

> >

> > some thing would be great for ailing couple

> >

> > Neeru

> >

> > 06-march-1969

> >

> > 21.45 am, delhi

> >

> > husband

> >

> > 30-jan-1965

> >

> > 03.00 am

> >

> > delhi

> >

> > my little knowledge about the subjects says her

> >

> > husband saturn-sun relationship is not good.

> after 5

> >

> > years of marriage his planets actually made wife

> a

> >

> > barren. Not only that if they adopt a child he or

> > she

> >

> > will also die . No santan gopal ytar will work

> here

> >

> > and i also see in her horscope some black magic

> done

> >

> > by near one to stop child birth .

> >

> > so now please check case and suggest something .

> >

> > warm regards

> >

> > mukesh

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________

> _________

> > _________ _

> >

> > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly

> Here

> > and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at

>

> > Games.

> >

> > http://get.games.

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> > gamekey=monopoly herenow

> >

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à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Ram, Namaskar

We are just fine, thanks for asking.

Parasara and Jaimini speak solely of the ninth from the Upapada for

seeing the children in the marriage. This has to do with seeing whether

the dharma of the marriage is being upheld or not. But the ninth shows

the overall dharma, i.e. children or not.

The second house from the Upapada shows not only the longevity of the

marriage, but also the spouses health. Specifically a debilitated

planet here or lording it brings ill health to the spouse. Similarly

the combination of Saturn, Venus and Mercury with this second house can

bring infertility to the spouse.

The reason for Saturn, Venus and Mercury to bring this misfortune is

because they are Asuras, and will deny creation itself.

As for counting of Upapada. Parasara has given the dictum for

calculating the upapada WITHOUT riders. Those who have read Jaimini

independently of Parasara have then inferred that the arudha

calculations depend on odd/even sign count. Yet they have only applied

them to Upapada. I cannot say whether there is any other logic to it,

but this logic is quite limited to say the least.

Now, assume we are to make calculations depending on odd/even sign

count that means we are saying that marriage depends on the akriti and

vikriti chakras of counting (Deva keralam). These chakras are ruled by

Saturn. Should Upapada fall in this group? If so then how exactly are

we looking at marriage then? We should be careful with out inferences

here, as whatever we say will surely manifest in our relationship with

our loved ones.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

Ram Jaswal wrote:

Namaste Visti

Â

Trusting

this note receives you and your â€œgoodâ€

wife in good health and spirits (?) â€¦â€¦..

Â

Wondering

whether you can clarify a few

points for me from your note below regarding children?

Â

Why only 2nd

and 9th from UL? What about 5th?

Â

Also is the

affliction by Mer, Ven and

Sani more pronounced to the House Lords or the Houses themselves re:denial of children?

Â

Appreciate

2nd is for â€œfamilyâ€ - is this

the reason why? I thought â€œfamilyâ€ was more to do with ones â€œclose

relativesâ€

as opposed from ones â€œown childrenâ€?

Â

Inaddition re:counting

from UL â€“ is it not dependent upon whether UL is placed in an â€œevenâ€ or

â€œoddâ€

sign?

Â

Thanks and

best wishes â€¦â€¦

Â

Jai Sita Ram

Â

Ram

Â

On Behalf Of Visti

Larsen

30 August 2007

09:35

Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Childless

Â

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤®

à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear

Mukesh, Rafal and Michal, Namaskar

As you would see from my previous mail, we have analyzed both charts

and given

advise and remedies. Now I asked Michal whether he could have made his

prediction solely based on the wifes chart, as the husband and wife do

indeed

share karma with each other.

Michal

and Rafal are both right, but Rafal is definitely straight to the point

on this

one.

Michal

you are right in your observation of the seventh lord in rasi as it

will

undoubtedly show which type of spouse we are attracting/attracted

to, and

our entire attitude towards relationships to begin with. It doesn't

serve as an

accurate description of the spouse however, yet is extremely relevant

no doubt.

For an accurate description see the seventh house in Navamsa.

More

accurately to see the children OR lack of the same, see the Upapada. If

Mercury, Saturn and Venus all associate with the Upapada or second from

it, or

their lords, then strong likelihood of infertility on part of the

spouse is

indicated. The same influencing the ninth from Upapada shows whether

this will

delay or deny children all together.

I think

that clarifies things. Michal has advised Shiva worship and i have

advised

medical intervention.

Yours

sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles

visit: http://srigaruda.com

MUKESH ANAND wrote:

respected

guru's,

if you all arrive at some

consensus and suggest something to come out of this .

as layman i can only say studying her horo without

seeing her husband horo doe'snt make sense to me .

regards

mukesh

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >

wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> Sometimes your one-liners are quite difficult to

> interpret. Let me try to understand what you're

> saying. 7th lord in Rasi doesn't have anything to

> do with the spouse? But I have seen Jyotishi's use

> the 7th house and its lord to describe the spouse

> accurately.

>

> 9th from UL can show the children coming from the

> marriage, but how can we see the spouse himself and

> his problems from UL? Please elaborate.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

>

> Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:00:58 AM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

> hare rama krsna

>

> Dear Michael,

>

> The answer rather would lie in Upapada as Your

> points (except 7L in D9)

> are still connected to native.

>

> Regards,

>

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> Sri Jagannath Center

Guru

>

> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

>

> Consultations & Articles:

> www.rohinaa.

com

>

> Rohinaa Forum: http://www.rohinaa.

fora.pl

>

> Michal Dziwulski napisaÃ…â€š(a):

>

> Hare

> Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Here is my thinking, I am not certain about any of

> these points so

> please correct me where I'm wrong.

>

> * 7th lord in Rasi has drsti of Mercury and Venus?

>

> * 7th lord in Navamsa is in parivartana with Jupiter

> (karaka for

> children) as well as being heavily afflicted.

>

> * Karaka for husband, Jupiter is afflicted in Rasi

> and Navamsa?

> However Jupiter is also karaka for children, and we

> know there is a

> problem related to the same. So, is there a way we

> could say it is

> both Husband and children?

>

> * DK is Venus. Jupiter is in the 6th from Venus,

> and hence in its

> Marana Karaka Sthana position.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Michal

>

> -----

> Original Message ----

>

> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>

>

> Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:07:33 PM

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

>

>

> Dear Michal, Namaskar

>

> Always check the Saptamsa for the final answer. In

> the husbands chart

> the Lagnesha is in trikona to budha and shukra,

> whilst receiving the

> dristi of Shani. Shani is yuti Mangala showing the

> way out of the

> situation. Hence the reason i said this.

>

> Now, tell me based on the wifes chart why the

> husband is having a

> problem?

>

> Yours sincerely,

>

> --

>

> Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

>

> Jaimini SJC - Denmark

>

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

>

> For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit:

> http://srigaruda.

com

>

> Michal Dziwulski wrote:

>

> Hare

> Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> In the husbands chart the pada of the 9th house from

> Sun is placed in

> the 12th house from the Sun and conjoined vargottama

> Mercury and

> Venus. This shows an inability to sustain an Atma

> which I thought was

> a non-physical condition. So how could medical

> intervention help? I

>

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Dear Ram, Namaskar

Now I understand your question.

The fifth house from Upapada is not seen, however we can see the trines

to the ninth house from Upapada to count the children according to one

view.

Arudhas in odd/even signs do not change the count. In fact when we talk

of arudhas, then a reversal would imply that the twelfth house no

longer is a cause of loss nor is the second a bringer of income, but in

fact the reverse of the same. This type of reversal is called

Ganeshachakra (also akriti chakra) as its the path towards moksha. This

only happens when Ketu is joined the arudha AND that person/arudha is

spiritual.

Regarding your second question. If the infertility combination is

associated with the upapada, then the natives spouse will have this

infertility yoga in their saptamsa.

I hope this helps.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

Ram Jaswal wrote:

Namaste Visti

Â

Thanks for

the reply and glad to hear you both

are fine â€¦â€¦

Â

I see your

rationale behind the 2nd and 9th

Houses from UL But you again didnâ€™t mention

5th house

from UL for children â€“ any specific reasons why?

Â

Also I

wasnâ€™t querying the â€œcalculationâ€

of UL But seeking clarification as to whether the direction for

counting of 2nd

and 9th Houses from UL and possibly 5th would depend upon whether UL

was placed

in an even/odd sign?

Â

Inaddition

re:childless what in your

opinion would take preference Mer, Ven & Sani aspecting 2nd and 9th

Houses/Lords

from UL Â in Rasi (D1) OR Mer, Ven &

Sani aspecting Saptamsha (D7) lagna and/or be in Trines to it? Â

Â

Thanks and

good wishes â€¦..

Â

Jai Sita Ram

Â

Ram

Â

On Behalf Of Visti

Larsen

31 August 2007

12:55

Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Childless

Â

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤®

à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Ram,

Namaskar

We are just fine, thanks for asking.

Parasara

and Jaimini speak solely of the ninth from the Upapada for seeing the

children

in the marriage. This has to do with seeing whether the dharma of the

marriage

is being upheld or not. But the ninth shows the overall dharma, i.e.

children

or not.

The second house from the Upapada shows not only the longevity of the

marriage,

but also the spouses health. Specifically a debilitated planet here or

lording

it brings ill health to the spouse. Similarly the combination of

Saturn, Venus

and Mercury with this second house can bring infertility to the spouse.

The reason for Saturn, Venus and Mercury to bring this misfortune is

because

they are Asuras, and will deny creation itself.

As for

counting of Upapada. Parasara has given the dictum for calculating the

upapada

WITHOUT riders. Those who have read Jaimini independently of Parasara

have then

inferred that the arudha calculations depend on odd/even sign count.

Yet they

have only applied them to Upapada. I cannot say whether there is any

other

logic to it, but this logic is quite limited to say the least.

Now,

assume we are to make calculations depending on odd/even sign count

that means

we are saying that marriage depends on the akriti and vikriti chakras

of

counting (Deva keralam). These chakras are ruled by Saturn. Should

Upapada fall

in this group? If so then how exactly are we looking at marriage then?

We

should be careful with out inferences here, as whatever we say will

surely

manifest in our relationship with our loved ones.

Yours

sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles

visit: http://srigaruda.com

Ram Jaswal wrote:

Namaste Visti

Â

Trusting

this note receives you and your â€œgoodâ€ wife in good health

and spirits (?) â€¦â€¦..

Â

Wondering

whether you can clarify a few points for me from your

note below regarding children?

Â

Why only 2nd

and 9th from UL? What about 5th? Â

Â

Also is the

affliction by Mer, Ven and Sani more pronounced to the

House Lords or the Houses themselves re:denial

of

children?

Â

Appreciate

2nd is for â€œfamilyâ€ - is this the reason why? I thought

â€œfamilyâ€ was more to do with ones â€œclose relativesâ€ as opposed from

ones â€œown

childrenâ€?

Â

Inaddition re:counting from UL â€“ is it not

dependent upon whether UL is placed in an â€œevenâ€ or â€œoddâ€ sign?

Â

Thanks and

best wishes â€¦â€¦

Â

Jai Sita Ram

Â

Ram

Â

On Behalf Of Visti

Larsen

30 August 2007

09:35

Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Childless

Â

à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤®

à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear

Mukesh, Rafal and Michal, Namaskar

As you would see from my previous mail, we have analyzed both charts

and given

advise and remedies. Now I asked Michal whether he could have made his

prediction solely based on the wifes chart, as the husband and wife do

indeed

share karma with each other.

Michal

and Rafal are both right, but Rafal is definitely straight to the point

on this

one.

Michal

you are right in your observation of the seventh lord in rasi as it

will

undoubtedly show which type of spouse we are attracting/attracted

to, and

our entire attitude towards relationships to begin with. It doesn't

serve as an

accurate description of the spouse however, yet is extremely relevant

no doubt.

For an accurate description see the seventh house in Navamsa.

More

accurately to see the children OR lack of the same, see the Upapada. If

Mercury, Saturn and Venus all associate with the Upapada or second from

it, or

their lords, then strong likelihood of infertility on part of the

spouse is

indicated. The same influencing the ninth from Upapada shows whether

this will

delay or deny children all together.

I think

that clarifies things. Michal has advised Shiva worship and i have

advised

medical intervention.

Yours

sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

Jaimini SJC - Denmark

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles

visit: http://srigaruda.com

MUKESH ANAND wrote:

respected

guru's,

if you all arrive at some

consensus and suggest something to come out of this .

as layman i can only say studying her horo without

seeing her husband horo doe'snt make sense to me .

regards

mukesh

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal >

wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Rafal,

>

> Sometimes your one-liners are quite difficult to

> interpret. Let me try to understand what you're

> saying. 7th lord in Rasi doesn't have anything to

> do with the spouse? But I have seen Jyotishi's use

> the 7th house and its lord to describe the spouse

> accurately.

>

> 9th from UL can show the children coming from the

> marriage, but how can we see the spouse himself and

> his problems from UL? Please elaborate.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>

>

> Wednesday, August 29, 2007 9:00:58 AM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

Childless

>

> hare rama krsna

>

> Dear Michael,

>

> The answer rather would lie in Upapada as Your

> points (except 7L in D9)

> are still connected to native.

>

> Regards,

>

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> Sri Jagannath

Center Guru

>

> email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com

>

> Consultations & Articles:

> www.rohinaa.

com

>

> Rohinaa Forum: http://www.rohinaa.

fora.pl

>

> Michal Dziwulski napisaÃ…â€š(a):

>

> Hare

> Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> Here is my thinking, I am not certain about any of

> these points so

> please correct me where I'm wrong.

>

> * 7th lord in Rasi has drsti of Mercury and Venus?

>

> * 7th lord in Navamsa is in parivartana with Jupiter

> (karaka for

> children) as well as being heavily afflicted.

>

> * Karaka for husband, Jupiter is afflicted in Rasi

> and Navamsa?

> However Jupiter is also karaka for children, and we

> know there is a

> problem related to the same. So, is there a way we

> could say it is

> both Husband and children?

>

> * DK is Venus. Jupiter is in the 6th from Venus,

> and hence in its

> Marana Karaka Sthana position.

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Michal

>

> -----

> Original Message ----

>

> Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT)

com>

>

> Tuesday, August 28, 2007 11:07:33 PM

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

Childless

>

>

> Dear Michal, Namaskar

>

> Always check the Saptamsa for the final answer. In

> the husbands chart

> the Lagnesha is in trikona to budha and shukra,

> whilst receiving the

> dristi of Shani. Shani is yuti Mangala showing the

> way out of the

> situation. Hence the reason i said this.

>

> Now, tell me based on the wifes chart why the

> husband is having a

> problem?

>

> Yours sincerely,

>

> --

>

> Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

>

> Jaimini SJC - Denmark

>

> email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

>

> For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit:

> http://srigaruda.

com

>

> Michal Dziwulski wrote:

>

> Hare

> Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Visti,

>

> In the husbands chart the pada of the 9th house from

> Sun is placed in

> the 12th house from the Sun and conjoined vargottama

> Mercury and

> Venus. This shows an inability to sustain an Atma

> which I thought was

> a non-physical condition. So how could medical

> intervention help? I

>

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September 1, 2007

respected gurus,

I have seen all discussions between diffrent gurus and

quite impressed as i am layman and i have no knowledge

about the subject . Now let me clarify she had one

abortion in 1995 and therafter she is barren and also

had two larposcopy for cysts . i personally believe

there must be some black magic done by some one or

here husband planets stop producing children fater

certain period of time .now my just two questions .

1. Will she be able to reporduce children in future .

if yes than how .she has undergone all kinds of

medical treatments.

2. Can this couple can adopt a child if yes which one

is boy or girl and will that adopted boy or girl will

survive .

regards

mukesh

--- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

> à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Ram, Namaskar

> Now I understand your question.

> The fifth house from Upapada is not seen, however we

> can see the trines

> to the ninth house from Upapada to count the

> children according to one

> view.

> Arudhas in odd/even signs do not change the count.

> In fact when we talk

> of arudhas, then a reversal would imply that the

> twelfth house no longer

> is a cause of loss nor is the second a bringer of

> income, but in fact

> the reverse of the same. This type of reversal is

> called Ganeshachakra

> (also akriti chakra) as its the path towards moksha.

> This only happens

> when Ketu is joined the arudha AND that

> person/arudha is spiritual.

>

> Regarding your second question. If the infertility

> combination is

> associated with the upapada, then the natives spouse

> will have this

> infertility yoga in their saptamsa.

>

> I hope this helps.

>

> Yours sincerely,

>

> --

> Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

> Jaimini SJC - Denmark

> email: visti

> <visti

> For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit:

> http://srigaruda.com

> <http://srigaruda.com>

>

> Ram Jaswal wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Visti

> >

> > Thanks for the reply and glad to hear you both are

> fine â€¦â€¦

> >

> > I see your rationale behind the 2nd and 9th Houses

> from UL But you

> > again didnâ€™t mention 5th house from UL for

> children â€“ any specific

> > reasons why?

> >

> > Also I wasnâ€™t querying the â€œcalculationâ€ of

> UL But seeking

> > clarification as to whether the direction for

> counting of 2nd and 9th

> > Houses from UL and possibly 5th would depend upon

> whether UL was

> > placed in an even/odd sign?

> >

> > Inaddition re:childless what in your opinion would

> take preference

> > Mer, Ven & Sani aspecting 2nd and 9th Houses/Lords

> from UL in Rasi

> > (D1) OR Mer, Ven & Sani aspecting Saptamsha (D7)

> lagna and/or be in

> > Trines to it?

> >

> > Thanks and good wishes â€¦..

> >

> > Jai Sita Ram

> >

> > Ram

> >

>

------

> >

> > **

> > *On Behalf

> Of *Visti Larsen

> > *Sent:* 31 August 2007 12:55

> > *To:*

> > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Childless

> >

> > à¤¹à¤°à¥‡ à¤°à¤¾à¤® à¤•à¥ƒà¤·à¥à¤£à¥¥

> >

> > Dear Ram, Namaskar

> > We are just fine, thanks for asking.

> >

> > Parasara and Jaimini speak solely of the ninth

> from the Upapada for

> > seeing the children in the marriage. This has to

> do with seeing

> > whether the dharma of the marriage is being upheld

> or not. But the

> > ninth shows the overall dharma, i.e. children or

> not.

> > The second house from the Upapada shows not only

> the longevity of the

> > marriage, but also the spouses health.

> Specifically a debilitated

> > planet here or lording it brings ill health to the

> spouse. Similarly

> > the combination of Saturn, Venus and Mercury with

> this second house

> > can bring infertility to the spouse.

> > The reason for Saturn, Venus and Mercury to bring

> this misfortune is

> > because they are Asuras, and will deny creation

> itself.

> >

> > As for counting of Upapada. Parasara has given the

> dictum for

> > calculating the upapada WITHOUT riders. Those who

> have read Jaimini

> > independently of Parasara have then inferred that

> the arudha

> > calculations depend on odd/even sign count. Yet

> they have only applied

> > them to Upapada. I cannot say whether there is any

> other logic to it,

> > but this logic is quite limited to say the least.

> >

> > Now, assume we are to make calculations depending

> on odd/even sign

> > count that means we are saying that marriage

> depends on the akriti and

> > vikriti chakras of counting (Deva keralam). These

> chakras are ruled by

> > Saturn. Should Upapada fall in this group? If so

> then how exactly are

> > we looking at marriage then? We should be careful

> with out inferences

> > here, as whatever we say will surely manifest in

> our relationship with

> > our loved ones.

> >

> > Yours sincerely,

> >

> > --

> > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru

> > Jaimini SJC - Denmark

> > email: visti

> <visti

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> > Ram Jaswal wrote:

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> > Namaste Visti

> >

> > Trusting this note receives you and your

> â€œgoodâ€ wife in good health

> > and spirits (?) â€¦â€¦..

> >

> > Wondering whether you can clarify a few points for

> me from your note

> > below regarding children?

> >

> > Why only 2nd and 9th from UL? What about 5th?

> >

> > Also is the affliction by Mer, Ven and Sani more

> pronounced to the

> > House Lords or the Houses themselves re:denial of

> children?

> >

> > Appreciate 2nd is for â€œfamilyâ€ - is this the

> reason why? I thought

> > â€œfamilyâ€ was more to do with ones â€œclose

> relativesâ€ as opposed from

>

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Q: It is now 6 years since I am married. I am depressed, since I have no child born. I am studying Astrology. Could you please tell me the planetary positions in a horoscope to indicate for me to be childless.

Suma…..Palayamkottai, Tamil Nadu, India.

Ans: There are some planetary positions in a horoscope to indicate Childlessness. I list below a few of them:

1. The Lord of Lagna (Ascendant) and Mercury occupy the 4 or 7th or 10th house.

2. Mars is placed in the Lagna , Saturn in the 8th house and the Sun in the 5th house;

3. When the 5th or 8th or 12th houses ( any one of them) occupied by malefic;

4. If Venus occupies the 7th house, The Moon in the 10th house and the malefic planets occupy the fourth house.

5. If the malefic in aspect by benefics , occupy the 8th house from the Moon.

6. If the 7th house occupied by Venus and Mercury, 4th house by Malefic and Jupiter in the 5th house.

7. The Moon occupies the fifth house and malefic occupy the Lagna , the Seventh, and the 12th house (he will neither have wife nor children) - in all the given places.

While at this, some of you had asked me to give the planetary positions -combinations - preventing birth of male child , which I add below:

8. Rahu in the 5th house, either in the sign owned by Mars ( Aries or Scorpio) or in aspect by Mars (Rahu in 4th, 7th and 8th house from the position of Mars).

9. Saturn in the 5th house from Lagna and in aspect from the Moon (7th house from Moon) and the lord of 5th house is associated with Rahu ( for example: Let us assume Cancer - Karkataka as Lagna; Saturn is in Scorpio - Vruchika - 5th house to Lagna,, AND The Moon is in Taurus - Rishab - where, the Moon is exalted - and the lord of Scorpio - Mars, is with Rahu in any house in the Horoscope - this result is seen)

10. Jupiter in combination with Rahu or Ketu, Lord of 5th house is weak and or powerless, and the lord of Lagna is combined with Mars ( Example : Let us assume Scorpio- Vruchika, is the Lagna - Lord of 5th house , Pieces - Meena, Jupiter is in Mithuna with Rahu/Kethu- Gemini, the 8th house (weak house to Scorpio) from Scorpio, and is combined with Mars the lord of Lagna - Scorpio - is positioned with Jupiter in Mithuna, this result is seen)

11. Jupiter in association with Mars, Rahu occupies the Lagna and the lord of 5th is placed in th sixth or 8th or 12th house .

12 Lords of Lagna and fifth house, are powerless/weak, and all malefic planets occupy the 5th house, with Jupiter and Mercury.

13. The Lord of Lagna is associated with Rahu and the Lord of 5th house is combined with Mars, and ‘Puthrakaraka’ Jupiter is in aspect from Rahu/Kethu.

There are many more combinations which could indicate preventing birth of male child. +++ Pathi

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