Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Dear Pram Chopra, After reading through all your " wandering,and ill- informed writings " ,except for quoting verbatim fro a few books,I am constrained to classify you as one among the many " sooth-sayers " who abound in India,who bring disrepute to the glorious Science that Astrology IS...a virtual " jack of all and master of none " ... You even refuse to answer my queries cogently... May God help you... L.Y.Rao. , Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: > > Dear Group Members > > God Bless U All > > Which Gem will Suit me? > > A few learned astrologers find that a particular planet in its period will give adverse results to a person. So to mitigate the evil effects they suggest the stone or gem governed by that malefic planet. According to Prof. Krishnamurti, it is wrong and actually doing harm to the consultant. > > Suppose Venus has to cause Diabetes, if one suggests that sweets are governed by Venus and one taking much of sweets, will reduce the evil effects of Venus, how far this learned Astrologer will be helpful to the patient. > > Again, if Mars donates arrogance, independence, disobedience, etc. and thereby Mars threatens dispute among husband and wife, what is the meaning of suggesting to put on coral or Ruby indicated by Mars or to keep ready a lathi or a knife or a revolver loaded, governed by Mars. Suppose due to evil Mars, one¢s hut is in fire, consider how wise the learned adviser is, if he suggests to pour highly inflammable ones on the fire, since inflammable ones are governed by Mars. > > If Saturn indicates laziness, lethargic tendency and slow in one¢s action, how can there be any benefit by painting the wall with blue color, purchasing blue cloth for curtain and Blue car for his use. The result will be similar to an old (Saturn) deaf (Saturn) person crossing the road and Saturn afflicted driver or owner delaying in reducing the speed by applying the brake. Reader know what the results would be . > > If Moon is evil and it threatens loose motion, if one suggests a liquid purgative to the patient what will be the result? If moon threatens, drowning in one¢s horoscope and if one uses pearl according to an advice, do you know what will happen? Mind you, Moon will keep him for some hours by the side of the pearls at the bottom of the sea and after a few hours, lift his body up to the surface and carry the bloated dead body to the shores. > > So, what is the wise suggestion ? Prof. Krishnamutri says that when a house is in fire, we throw water and sand; when one is lazy, we give stimulant; when there is diabetes, we giveinsulin to control. Therefore, that which will nullify the evil is to be suggested. That planet which is auspicious, is to be taken. > > According to Krishnamurti Padhdhati note The Sub Lord of the 1st , 2nd and that of the 11th Cusp (House Degrees). Note which houses are signified by them. If they are not at all connected in any manner with 6th or 8th or 12th then use that color or metal or Gem which is indicated by the Sub Lord of 1st, 2nd and 11th. Even if the Sub Lord of the 1st or 2nd or 11th Cusp happens to be significator of 6 or 8 or 12, reject the color or metal or gem indicated by such a Sub Lord. > > Suggesting Gem to Any body is not a easy task to be taken, it too needs minute calculations which must be done well before hand. I can give you detail and accurate analysis through the base of Kpsystem so that you must be confirmed before buying such costly Gems whether you have to buy it or not. What I need is Your Famous Name and Any Number within (1---249) [Horary Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti]. > > A Foresight Prince of India > Pram Chopra > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > http://tv./collections/222 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 So you are the person who enquires Seniors or Bosses about their work and you show them the business you have given to them through your social gatherings and you want justice by letting them down. Isn't this wandering astroiniket. who are the person you want to be or can be or should be. Pram astroiniket <astroiniket Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:41:28 AM Re: KP systems query: see Jyotish_Prashna Group for detail Dear Pram Chopra,After reading through all your "wandering,and ill-informed writings",except for quoting verbatim fro a few books,I amconstrained to classify you as one among the many "sooth-sayers" whoabound in India,who bring disrepute to the glorious Science thatAstrology IS...a virtual "jack of all and master of none"...You even refuse to answer my queries cogently...May God help you...L.Y.Rao., Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Group Members> > God Bless U All> > Which Gem will Suit me?> > A few learned astrologers find that a particular planet in its period will give adverse results to a person. So to mitigate the evil effects they suggest the stone or gem governed by that malefic planet. According to Prof. Krishnamurti, it is wrong and actually doing harm to the consultant.> > Suppose Venus has to cause Diabetes, if one suggests that sweets are governed by Venus and one taking much of sweets, will reduce the evil effects of Venus, how far this learned Astrologer will be helpful to the patient.> > Again, if Mars donates arrogance, independence, disobedience, etc. and thereby Mars threatens dispute among husband and wife, what is the meaning of suggesting to put on coral or Ruby indicated by Mars or to keep ready a lathi or a knife or a revolver loaded, governed by Mars. Suppose due to evil Mars, one¢s hut is in fire, consider how wise the learned adviser is, if he suggests to pour highly inflammable ones on the fire, since inflammable ones are governed by Mars.> > If Saturn indicates laziness, lethargic tendency and slow in one¢s action, how can there be any benefit by painting the wall with blue color, purchasing blue cloth for curtain and Blue car for his use. The result will be similar to an old (Saturn) deaf (Saturn) person crossing the road and Saturn afflicted driver or owner delaying in reducing the speed by applying the brake. Reader know what the results would be .> > If Moon is evil and it threatens loose motion, if one suggests a liquid purgative to the patient what will be the result? If moon threatens, drowning in one¢s horoscope and if one uses pearl according to an advice, do you know what will happen? Mind you, Moon will keep him for some hours by the side of the pearls at the bottom of the sea and after a few hours, lift his body up to the surface and carry the bloated dead body to the shores.> > So, what is the wise suggestion ? Prof. Krishnamutri says that when a house is in fire, we throw water and sand; when one is lazy, we give stimulant; when there is diabetes, we giveinsulin to control. Therefore, that which will nullify the evil is to be suggested. That planet which is auspicious, is to be taken. > > According to Krishnamurti Padhdhati note The Sub Lord of the 1st , 2nd and that of the 11th Cusp (House Degrees). Note which houses are signified by them. If they are not at all connected in any manner with 6th or 8th or 12th then use that color or metal or Gem which is indicated by the Sub Lord of 1st, 2nd and 11th. Even if the Sub Lord of the 1st or 2nd or 11th Cusp happens to be significator of 6 or 8 or 12, reject the color or metal or gem indicated by such a Sub Lord.> > Suggesting Gem to Any body is not a easy task to be taken, it too needs minute calculations which must be done well before hand. I can give you detail and accurate analysis through the base of Kpsystem so that you must be confirmed before buying such costly Gems whether you have to buy it or not. What I need is Your Famous Name and Any Number within (1---249) [Horary Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti] . > > A Foresight Prince of India> Pram Chopra> > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > http://tv.. com/collections/ 222> Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 pram ji, about your knowledge of astrology and mantra, i think in all rooms all members know very well, if any one have doubt can see Jyotish_prashna and other rooms also, where you were unanswered, when spesific questions asked to you by members like sunil nair and L.Y. Rao and others. when you do not have knowledge of shastras, why you trying to making fool to others as Mr. Rao wrote in Jyotish_Prashna Group you are jack of all trade but master of none, in my opinion you are even not jack of any trade. stop making fools to others, first earn knowledge then come and discuss. if just by reading one may be knowledgeble, i think proof reader of a printing press must be most knowledgeble person. you talk about KP system what you know about KP system, if you know something go to KP System room and put your views their, as you get answers in other rooms you will get worst from their. you can talk about any system but come with knowledge, not just surfacieal, i have read your postings in Jyoutish Remedy room also , their you also treated in same manner by senior astrologers. do not try to make fool to members, now a days every one knows about you and your knowledge also. be good human being first. niket saraswat , Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: > > So you are the person who enquires Seniors or Bosses about their work and you show them the business you have given to them through your social gatherings and you want justice by letting them down. Isn't this wandering astroiniket. > > who are the person you want to be or can be or should be. > > Pram > > > > astroiniket <astroiniket > > Monday, July 30, 2007 10:41:28 AM > Re: KP systems query: see Jyotish_Prashna Group for detail > > Dear Pram Chopra, > After reading through all your " wandering,and ill- > informed writings " ,except for quoting verbatim fro a few books,I am > constrained to classify you as one among the many " sooth-sayers " who > abound in India,who bring disrepute to the glorious Science that > Astrology IS...a virtual " jack of all and master of none " ... > You even refuse to answer my queries cogently... > May God help you... > > L.Y.Rao. > > , Pram Chopra > <pramchopra1964@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Group Members > > > > God Bless U All > > > > Which Gem will Suit me? > > > > A few learned astrologers find that a particular planet in its > period will give adverse results to a person. So to mitigate the evil > effects they suggest the stone or gem governed by that malefic > planet. According to Prof. Krishnamurti, it is wrong and actually > doing harm to the consultant. > > > > Suppose Venus has to cause Diabetes, if one suggests that sweets > are governed by Venus and one taking much of sweets, will reduce the > evil effects of Venus, how far this learned Astrologer will be > helpful to the patient. > > > > Again, if Mars donates arrogance, independence, disobedience, etc. > and thereby Mars threatens dispute among husband and wife, what is > the meaning of suggesting to put on coral or Ruby indicated by Mars > or to keep ready a lathi or a knife or a revolver loaded, governed by > Mars. Suppose due to evil Mars, one¢s hut is in fire, consider how > wise the learned adviser is, if he suggests to pour highly > inflammable ones on the fire, since inflammable ones are governed by > Mars. > > > > If Saturn indicates laziness, lethargic tendency and slow in one¢s > action, how can there be any benefit by painting the wall with blue > color, purchasing blue cloth for curtain and Blue car for his use. > The result will be similar to an old (Saturn) deaf (Saturn) person > crossing the road and Saturn afflicted driver or owner delaying in > reducing the speed by applying the brake. Reader know what the > results would be . > > > > If Moon is evil and it threatens loose motion, if one suggests a > liquid purgative to the patient what will be the result? If moon > threatens, drowning in one¢s horoscope and if one uses pearl > according to an advice, do you know what will happen? Mind you, Moon > will keep him for some hours by the side of the pearls at the bottom > of the sea and after a few hours, lift his body up to the surface and > carry the bloated dead body to the shores. > > > > So, what is the wise suggestion ? Prof. Krishnamutri says that when > a house is in fire, we throw water and sand; when one is lazy, we > give stimulant; when there is diabetes, we giveinsulin to control. > Therefore, that which will nullify the evil is to be suggested. That > planet which is auspicious, is to be taken. > > > > According to Krishnamurti Padhdhati note The Sub Lord of the 1st , > 2nd and that of the 11th Cusp (House Degrees). Note which houses are > signified by them. If they are not at all connected in any manner > with 6th or 8th or 12th then use that color or metal or Gem which is > indicated by the Sub Lord of 1st, 2nd and 11th. Even if the Sub Lord > of the 1st or 2nd or 11th Cusp happens to be significator of 6 or 8 > or 12, reject the color or metal or gem indicated by such a Sub Lord. > > > > Suggesting Gem to Any body is not a easy task to be taken, it too > needs minute calculations which must be done well before hand. I can > give you detail and accurate analysis through the base of Kpsystem so > that you must be confirmed before buying such costly Gems whether you > have to buy it or not. What I need is Your Famous Name and Any Number > within (1---249) [Horary Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti] . > > > > A Foresight Prince of India > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's > > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > > http://tv.. com/collections/ 222 > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 that's i Know what do you know now. I am here give fruit of God only for those persons who are destined to take those fruits from me. Let me have the power of a foresight vision of Tri kaal Drishti then I will handle all the persons secrets or what ever you want from me. astroiniket <astroiniket Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:55:26 PM Re: KP systems query: see Jyotish_Prashna Group for detail pram ji, about your knowledge of astrology and mantra, i think in all rooms all members know very well, if any one have doubt can see Jyotish_prashna and other rooms also, where you were unanswered, when spesific questions asked to you by members like sunil nair and L.Y. Rao and others.when you do not have knowledge of shastras, why you trying to making fool to others as Mr. Rao wrote in Jyotish_Prashna Group you are jack of all trade but master of none, in my opinion you are even not jack of any trade.stop making fools to others, first earn knowledge then come and discuss. if just by reading one may be knowledgeble, i think proof reader of a printing press must be most knowledgeble person. you talk about KP system what you know about KP system, if you know something go to KP System room and put your views their, as you get answers in other rooms you will get worst from their.you can talk about any system but come with knowledge, not just surfacieal, i have read your postings in Jyoutish Remedy room also , their you also treated in same manner by senior astrologers.do not try to make fool to members, now a days every one knows about you and your knowledge also.be good human being first.niket saraswat, Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ ...> wrote:>> So you are the person who enquires Seniors or Bosses about their work and you show them the business you have given to them through your social gatherings and you want justice by letting them down. Isn't this wandering astroiniket.> > who are the person you want to be or can be or should be.> > Pram> > > > astroiniket <astroiniket@ ...>> > Monday, July 30, 2007 10:41:28 AM> Re: KP systems query: see Jyotish_Prashna Group for detail> > Dear Pram Chopra,> After reading through all your "wandering,and ill-> informed writings",except for quoting verbatim fro a few books,I am> constrained to classify you as one among the many "sooth-sayers" who> abound in India,who bring disrepute to the glorious Science that> Astrology IS...a virtual "jack of all and master of none"...> You even refuse to answer my queries cogently...> May God help you...> > L.Y.Rao.> > , Pram Chopra > <pramchopra1964@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Group Members> > > > God Bless U All> > > > Which Gem will Suit me?> > > > A few learned astrologers find that a particular planet in its > period will give adverse results to a person. So to mitigate the evil > effects they suggest the stone or gem governed by that malefic > planet. According to Prof. Krishnamurti, it is wrong and actually > doing harm to the consultant.> > > > Suppose Venus has to cause Diabetes, if one suggests that sweets > are governed by Venus and one taking much of sweets, will reduce the > evil effects of Venus, how far this learned Astrologer will be > helpful to the patient.> > > > Again, if Mars donates arrogance, independence, disobedience, etc. > and thereby Mars threatens dispute among husband and wife, what is > the meaning of suggesting to put on coral or Ruby indicated by Mars > or to keep ready a lathi or a knife or a revolver loaded, governed by > Mars. Suppose due to evil Mars, one¢s hut is in fire, consider how > wise the learned adviser is, if he suggests to pour highly > inflammable ones on the fire, since inflammable ones are governed by > Mars.> > > > If Saturn indicates laziness, lethargic tendency and slow in one¢s > action, how can there be any benefit by painting the wall with blue > color, purchasing blue cloth for curtain and Blue car for his use. > The result will be similar to an old (Saturn) deaf (Saturn) person > crossing the road and Saturn afflicted driver or owner delaying in > reducing the speed by applying the brake. Reader know what the > results would be .> > > > If Moon is evil and it threatens loose motion, if one suggests a > liquid purgative to the patient what will be the result? If moon > threatens, drowning in one¢s horoscope and if one uses pearl > according to an advice, do you know what will happen? Mind you, Moon > will keep him for some hours by the side of the pearls at the bottom > of the sea and after a few hours, lift his body up to the surface and > carry the bloated dead body to the shores.> > > > So, what is the wise suggestion ? Prof. Krishnamutri says that when > a house is in fire, we throw water and sand; when one is lazy, we > give stimulant; when there is diabetes, we giveinsulin to control. > Therefore, that which will nullify the evil is to be suggested. That > planet which is auspicious, is to be taken. > > > > According to Krishnamurti Padhdhati note The Sub Lord of the 1st, > 2nd and that of the 11th Cusp (House Degrees). Note which houses are > signified by them. If they are not at all connected in any manner > with 6th or 8th or 12th then use that color or metal or Gem which is > indicated by the Sub Lord of 1st, 2nd and 11th. Even if the Sub Lord > of the 1st or 2nd or 11th Cusp happens to be significator of 6 or 8 > or 12, reject the color or metal or gem indicated by such a Sub Lord.> > > > Suggesting Gem to Any body is not a easy task to be taken, it too > needs minute calculations which must be done well before hand. I can > give you detail and accurate analysis through the base of Kpsystem so > that you must be confirmed before buying such costly Gems whether you > have to buy it or not. What I need is Your Famous Name and Any Number > within (1---249) [Horary Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti] . > > > > A Foresight Prince of India> > Pram Chopra> > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's > > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > > http://tv.. com/collections/ 222> >> > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > http://mobile. / go?refer= 1GNXIC> Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 may i know how you will get this trikal siddhi, by doing which sadhna? how you will get it? and what fruit you have from god? we all are querious about that, pls tell us about fruit and trikal siddhi more. , Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: > > that's i Know what do you know now. I am here give fruit of God only for those persons who are destined to take those fruits from me. Let me have the power of a foresight vision of Tri kaal Drishti then I will handle all the persons secrets or what ever you want from me. > > > > > > > astroiniket <astroiniket > > Monday, July 30, 2007 12:55:26 PM > Re: KP systems query: see Jyotish_Prashna Group for detail > > pram ji, about your knowledge of astrology and mantra, i think in all > rooms all members know very well, if any one have doubt can see > Jyotish_prashna and other rooms also, where you were unanswered, when > spesific questions asked to you by members like sunil nair and L.Y. > Rao and others. > > when you do not have knowledge of shastras, why you trying to making > fool to others as Mr. Rao wrote in Jyotish_Prashna Group you are jack > of all trade but master of none, in my opinion you are even not jack > of any trade. > > stop making fools to others, first earn knowledge then come and > discuss. if just by reading one may be knowledgeble, i think proof > reader of a printing press must be most knowledgeble person. you talk > about KP system what you know about KP system, if you know something > go to KP System room and put your views their, as you get answers in > other rooms you will get worst from their. > > you can talk about any system but come with knowledge, not just > surfacieal, i have read your postings in Jyoutish Remedy room also , > their you also treated in same manner by senior astrologers. > > do not try to make fool to members, now a days every one knows about > you and your knowledge also. > > be good human being first. > > niket saraswat > > , Pram Chopra > <pramchopra1964@ ...> wrote: > > > > So you are the person who enquires Seniors or Bosses about their > work and you show them the business you have given to them through > your social gatherings and you want justice by letting them down. > Isn't this wandering astroiniket. > > > > who are the person you want to be or can be or should be. > > > > Pram > > > > > > > > astroiniket <astroiniket@ ...> > > > > Monday, July 30, 2007 10:41:28 AM > > Re: KP systems query: see > Jyotish_Prashna Group for detail > > > > Dear Pram Chopra, > > After reading through all your " wandering,and ill- > > informed writings " ,except for quoting verbatim fro a few books,I am > > constrained to classify you as one among the many " sooth-sayers " who > > abound in India,who bring disrepute to the glorious Science that > > Astrology IS...a virtual " jack of all and master of none " ... > > You even refuse to answer my queries cogently... > > May God help you... > > > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > , Pram Chopra > > <pramchopra1964@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Group Members > > > > > > God Bless U All > > > > > > Which Gem will Suit me? > > > > > > A few learned astrologers find that a particular planet in its > > period will give adverse results to a person. So to mitigate the > evil > > effects they suggest the stone or gem governed by that malefic > > planet. According to Prof. Krishnamurti, it is wrong and actually > > doing harm to the consultant. > > > > > > Suppose Venus has to cause Diabetes, if one suggests that sweets > > are governed by Venus and one taking much of sweets, will reduce > the > > evil effects of Venus, how far this learned Astrologer will be > > helpful to the patient. > > > > > > Again, if Mars donates arrogance, independence, disobedience, > etc. > > and thereby Mars threatens dispute among husband and wife, what is > > the meaning of suggesting to put on coral or Ruby indicated by Mars > > or to keep ready a lathi or a knife or a revolver loaded, governed > by > > Mars. Suppose due to evil Mars, one¢s hut is in fire, consider how > > wise the learned adviser is, if he suggests to pour highly > > inflammable ones on the fire, since inflammable ones are governed > by > > Mars. > > > > > > If Saturn indicates laziness, lethargic tendency and slow in > one¢s > > action, how can there be any benefit by painting the wall with blue > > color, purchasing blue cloth for curtain and Blue car for his use. > > The result will be similar to an old (Saturn) deaf (Saturn) person > > crossing the road and Saturn afflicted driver or owner delaying in > > reducing the speed by applying the brake. Reader know what the > > results would be . > > > > > > If Moon is evil and it threatens loose motion, if one suggests a > > liquid purgative to the patient what will be the result? If moon > > threatens, drowning in one¢s horoscope and if one uses pearl > > according to an advice, do you know what will happen? Mind you, > Moon > > will keep him for some hours by the side of the pearls at the > bottom > > of the sea and after a few hours, lift his body up to the surface > and > > carry the bloated dead body to the shores. > > > > > > So, what is the wise suggestion ? Prof. Krishnamutri says that > when > > a house is in fire, we throw water and sand; when one is lazy, we > > give stimulant; when there is diabetes, we giveinsulin to control. > > Therefore, that which will nullify the evil is to be suggested. > That > > planet which is auspicious, is to be taken. > > > > > > According to Krishnamurti Padhdhati note The Sub Lord of the 1st > , > > 2nd and that of the 11th Cusp (House Degrees). Note which houses > are > > signified by them. If they are not at all connected in any manner > > with 6th or 8th or 12th then use that color or metal or Gem which > is > > indicated by the Sub Lord of 1st, 2nd and 11th. Even if the Sub > Lord > > of the 1st or 2nd or 11th Cusp happens to be significator of 6 or 8 > > or 12, reject the color or metal or gem indicated by such a Sub > Lord. > > > > > > Suggesting Gem to Any body is not a easy task to be taken, it too > > needs minute calculations which must be done well before hand. I > can > > give you detail and accurate analysis through the base of Kpsystem > so > > that you must be confirmed before buying such costly Gems whether > you > > have to buy it or not. What I need is Your Famous Name and Any > Number > > within (1---249) [Horary Astrology by Prof. K S Krishnamurti] . > > > > > > A Foresight Prince of India > > > Pram Chopra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's > > > Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. > > > http://tv.. com/collections/ 222 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: > mail, news, photos & more. > > http://mobile. / go?refer= 1GNXIC > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink./gmrs/_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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