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Respected Raichurji and all,

 

Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349

 

Para I: As in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification.

 

He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis.

 

But normally in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator of....

 

This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I might have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology or not.

 

As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in 7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?.

 

Anybody has a valid point on this,please clarify me on this point.

 

With thanks and regards

Balaji G

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Balaji,

I think what you have referred to, is a misprint,or error in editing...because as per K.P.,any planet posited in a star of a planet will give the results of the significations denoted by the lord of that star,whethe they will be benefic or malefic to the native, is decided by the sublord...

I guess Balaji, it is now quite clear to you...KSK's books say the above...Astrosecrets also says so,but in several places,else-where, several times...hence this is,in my opinion,a misprint...

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !

"Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan wrote:

 

Respected Raichurji and all,

 

Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349

 

Para I: As in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification.

 

He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis.

 

But normally in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator of....

 

This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I might have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology or not.

 

As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in 7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?.

 

Anybody has a valid point on this,please clarify me on this point.

 

With thanks and regards

Balaji G

 

 

 

 

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Dear Balaji

 

KSK says if the Sub-Lord is..... or is in the constellation of a planet ..signifying...

 

This is the essence of the 4 step method. You check the Sub_lord's significance. You also check the significane of the StarLord of the Sub. I do not have the Book Astro Secrets ....

Here the Basic significators are the House of Residence, and then Houses owned by the Planet. The houes owned become important or Principal signioficators, if they are vacant.

 

Similary when a planet is the starlord of another, the house this occupies, becomes the Pricipal Signifacator , the House owned only if vacant.

 

The basic idea is we should not restrict to Sub only, but consider the Star Lord of this sub.

 

Unfortunately, being influenced by the Traditional way, KSK and KP books always use the

 

expression of "in the constellations of..", where as the more apt expression would be "whose

 

Star Lord Is..". In todays days of computors, KP astrologers do not use the Constellations

 

at all, but refer to the Constellation Lord or Star-Lord.

 

Hope this helps"Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan wrote:

 

Respected Raichurji and all,

 

Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349

 

Para I: As in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification.

 

He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis.

 

But normally in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator of....

 

This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I might have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology or not.

 

As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in 7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?.

 

Anybody has a valid point on this,please clarify me on this point.

 

With thanks and regards

Balaji G

 

 

 

 

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Dear Balaji

Interesting point. But, your Dasha

of Ravi indicates higher education because Sun signifies 4,9 as described

by you. Secondly, You have completed your education in Mer Bhukti because

4th SL is Mercury only. See the following rule, which is true in many horoscopes,

"Even when a SubLord of any Cusp

is not the significator of that Cusp, it gives the result regarding that

Cusp in it's dasha/bhukti"

i.e. Your 4th SL is mer. which has

given the result of 4th house (education) in it's bhukti, even when Mer.

is not the significator of 4th.

This rule is true in many cases i

have seen. I don't know whether this rule is there anywhere in KP.

From our Group, Mr. Ajay Pandav

has also observed the same thing.

I agree with your point of Venus

being the Star lord of sun & sig. of 4,9,11, BUT, apart from the Chart,

we should/must also see the Dashas, Those Dashas which are Sig. of 4,9,11

give higher education, as in your case.

Regards

Abhay

"Balaji G.krishnan" wrote:

Dear punitji I am sorry to say that without

taking full signification of sun--6,4 and 9 then the query cannot be answered.

As told by respected raichurji and Late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,Four step theory

of seeing the signification of sub lord seperately,star lord seperately

and then predicting.Merc---lord of 5,8 occupying 7 and its star lord also

lord of 7 in 7. Then,how can we say about higher education with 4th CSL

not connecting to or signfying 4/9/11.So sun in star of venus lord of 4

and 9 gives a clear chit that higher education is there.More over,I have

completed Higher education successfully only in this Mercury bukthi in

sun dasa. Otherwise the rule said in K.P seems to be a more confusing for

me. THE STAR LORD OF THE SUBLORD CONNECTED TO is what I think right. Please

clarify me. With regardsBALAJI G

Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Balaji

ji, In my opinion we should not take full signification of Sun and take

only the ownership and occupation. So 9th and 4th, the signification due

to Venus -its star lord, should not be taken. You can use them as an infulencing

factor but not significators. Regards, Punit Pandey

On 4/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan

wrote:

Respected

Raichurji and all Thanks for your kind reply in the right time. So,I can

accept the theory of checking the Cuspal Sublord's signification

first and then its star lord's signification As

an example:To verify the chance of having Higher education?

The 4th CSL Mercury(lord of 5 and 8,but 5 is occupied by saturn) So only

8th bhava can be taken here. Mercury occupying 7th and conjoined with mars

lord of 3 and 10 in 7 Merc in star of sun lord of sun,occupying 7th bhava

and Sun in turn in star of venus lord of 4 and 9(9th bhava not occupied

by any planet). So 4th CSL MERC(7,8) IN STAR OF SUN(6,7,4,9) DENOTES POSSIBILITY.YES.Am

I right, sir??. Hope this should be right as otherwise I am not getting

a correct reason for the query. Hope,I am not disturbing you much,Sir.

Once again,Thank you so much for the detailed reply. With PranamsBalaji

G

anant raichur <anant_1608

wrote:

Dear

Balaji KSK says if the Sub-Lord is..... or is in the constellation of a

planet ..signifying... This is the essence of the 4 step method. You check

the Sub_lord's significance. You also check the significane of the

StarLord of the Sub. I do not have the Book Astro Secrets ....Here

the Basic significators are the House of Residence, and then Houses owned

by the Planet. The houes owned become important or Principal signioficators,

if they are vacant. Similary when a planet is the starlord of another,

the house this occupies, becomes the Pricipal Signifacator , the House

owned only if vacant. The basic idea is we should not restrict to Sub only,

but consider the Star Lord of this sub. Unfortunately, being influenced

by the Traditional way, KSK and KP books always use the expression of "in

the constellations of..", where as the more apt expression would be "whose

Star Lord Is..". In todays days of computors, KP astrologers do not

use the Constellations at all, but refer to the Constellation Lord or Star-Lord.

Hope this helps

"Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan

wrote:

Respected

Raichurji and all, Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets

PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349 Para I: As

in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies

houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter

when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies

houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification.

He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in

another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis. But normally

in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise

then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen

that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator

of.... This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I might

have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology

or not. As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in

7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e

merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification

of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?. Anybody has a

valid point on this,please clarify me on this point. With thanks and regardsBalaji

G

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Respected Raichurji and all

 

Thanks for your kind reply in the right time.

 

So,I can accept the theory of checking the Cuspal Sublord's signification first and then its star lord's signification

 

As an example:To verify the chance of having Higher education?

 

The 4th CSL Mercury(lord of 5 and 8,but 5 is occupied by saturn)

 

So only 8th bhava can be taken here.

 

Mercury occupying 7th and conjoined with mars lord of 3 and 10 in 7

 

Merc in star of sun lord of sun,occupying 7th bhava and Sun in turn in star of venus lord of 4 and 9(9th bhava not occupied by any planet).

 

So 4th CSL MERC(7,8) IN STAR OF SUN(6,7,4,9) DENOTES POSSIBILITY.YES.Am I right, sir??.

 

Hope this should be right as otherwise I am not getting a correct reason for the query.

 

Hope,I am not disturbing you much,Sir.

 

Once again,Thank you so much for the detailed reply.

 

With Pranams

Balaji G

 

anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote:

 

Dear Balaji

 

KSK says if the Sub-Lord is..... or is in the constellation of a planet ..signifying...

 

This is the essence of the 4 step method. You check the Sub_lord's significance. You also check the significane of the StarLord of the Sub. I do not have the Book Astro Secrets ....

Here the Basic significators are the House of Residence, and then Houses owned by the Planet. The houes owned become important or Principal signioficators, if they are vacant.

 

Similary when a planet is the starlord of another, the house this occupies, becomes the Pricipal Signifacator , the House owned only if vacant.

 

The basic idea is we should not restrict to Sub only, but consider the Star Lord of this sub.

 

Unfortunately, being influenced by the Traditional way, KSK and KP books always use the

 

expression of "in the constellations of..", where as the more apt expression would be "whose

 

Star Lord Is..". In todays days of computors, KP astrologers do not use the Constellations

 

at all, but refer to the Constellation Lord or Star-Lord.

 

Hope this helps"Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan wrote:

 

Respected Raichurji and all,

 

Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349

 

Para I: As in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification.

 

He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis.

 

But normally in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator of....

 

This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I might have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology or not.

 

As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in 7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?.

 

Anybody has a valid point on this,please clarify me on this point.

 

With thanks and regards

Balaji G

 

 

 

 

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Balaji ji,

 

In my opinion we should not take full signification of Sun and take only the ownership and occupation. So 9th and 4th, the signification due to Venus -its star lord, should not be taken. You can use them as an infulencing factor but not significators.

 

 

Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

On 4/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan wrote:

 

Respected Raichurji and all

 

Thanks for your kind reply in the right time.

 

So,I can accept the theory of checking the Cuspal Sublord's signification first and then its star lord's signification

 

As an example:To verify the chance of having Higher education?

 

The 4th CSL Mercury(lord of 5 and 8,but 5 is occupied by saturn)

 

So only 8th bhava can be taken here.

 

Mercury occupying 7th and conjoined with mars lord of 3 and 10 in 7

 

Merc in star of sun lord of sun,occupying 7th bhava and Sun in turn in star of venus lord of 4 and 9(9th bhava not occupied by any planet).

 

So 4th CSL MERC(7,8) IN STAR OF SUN(6,7,4,9) DENOTES POSSIBILITY.YES.Am I right, sir??.

 

Hope this should be right as otherwise I am not getting a correct reason for the query.

 

Hope,I am not disturbing you much,Sir.

 

Once again,Thank you so much for the detailed reply.

 

With Pranams

Balaji G

 

 

anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote:

 

Dear Balaji

 

KSK says if the Sub-Lord is..... or is in the constellation of a planet ..signifying...

 

This is the essence of the 4 step method. You check the Sub_lord's significance. You also check the significane of the StarLord of the Sub. I do not have the Book Astro Secrets ....

Here the Basic significators are the House of Residence, and then Houses owned by the Planet. The houes owned become important or Principal signioficators, if they are vacant.

 

Similary when a planet is the starlord of another, the house this occupies, becomes the Pricipal Signifacator , the House owned only if vacant.

 

The basic idea is we should not restrict to Sub only, but consider the Star Lord of this sub.

 

Unfortunately, being influenced by the Traditional way, KSK and KP books always use the

 

expression of " in the constellations of.. " , where as the more apt expression would be " whose

 

Star Lord Is.. " . In todays days of computors, KP astrologers do not use the Constellations

 

at all, but refer to the Constellation Lord or Star-Lord.

 

Hope this helps " Balaji G.krishnan " <balaji_g_krishnan

wrote:

 

Respected Raichurji and all,

 

Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349

 

Para I: As in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification.

 

He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis.

 

But normally in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator of....

 

 

This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I might have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology or not.

 

As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in 7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?.

 

Anybody has a valid point on this,please clarify me on this point.

 

With thanks and regards

Balaji G

 

 

 

 

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Dear punitji

 

I am sorry to say that without taking full signification of sun--6,4 and 9 then the query cannot be answered.

 

As told by respected raichurji and Late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,Four step theory of seeing the signification of sub lord seperately,star lord seperately and then predicting.Merc---lord of 5,8 occupying 7 and its star lord also lord of 7 in 7.

 

Then,how can we say about higher education with 4th CSL not connecting to or signfying 4/9/11.So sun in star of venus lord of 4 and 9 gives a clear chit that higher education is there.More over,I have completed Higher education successfully only in this Mercury bukthi in sun dasa.

 

Otherwise the rule said in K.P seems to be a more confusing for me.

 

THE STAR LORD OF THE SUBLORD CONNECTED TO is what I think right.

 

Please clarify me.

 

With regards

BALAJI GPunit Pandey <punitp wrote:

 

Balaji ji,

 

In my opinion we should not take full signification of Sun and take only the ownership and occupation. So 9th and 4th, the signification due to Venus -its star lord, should not be taken. You can use them as an infulencing factor but not significators.

 

Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

On 4/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan wrote:

Respected Raichurji and all

 

Thanks for your kind reply in the right time.

 

So,I can accept the theory of checking the Cuspal Sublord's signification first and then its star lord's signification

 

As an example:To verify the chance of having Higher education?

 

The 4th CSL Mercury(lord of 5 and 8,but 5 is occupied by saturn)

 

So only 8th bhava can be taken here.

 

Mercury occupying 7th and conjoined with mars lord of 3 and 10 in 7

 

Merc in star of sun lord of sun,occupying 7th bhava and Sun in turn in star of venus lord of 4 and 9(9th bhava not occupied by any planet).

 

So 4th CSL MERC(7,8) IN STAR OF SUN(6,7,4,9) DENOTES POSSIBILITY.YES.Am I right, sir??.

 

Hope this should be right as otherwise I am not getting a correct reason for the query.

 

Hope,I am not disturbing you much,Sir.

 

Once again,Thank you so much for the detailed reply.

 

With Pranams

Balaji G

 

 

anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote:

 

Dear Balaji

 

KSK says if the Sub-Lord is..... or is in the constellation of a planet ..signifying...

 

This is the essence of the 4 step method. You check the Sub_lord's significance. You also check the significane of the StarLord of the Sub. I do not have the Book Astro Secrets ....

Here the Basic significators are the House of Residence, and then Houses owned by the Planet. The houes owned become important or Principal signioficators, if they are vacant.

 

Similary when a planet is the starlord of another, the house this occupies, becomes the Pricipal Signifacator , the House owned only if vacant.

 

The basic idea is we should not restrict to Sub only, but consider the Star Lord of this sub.

 

Unfortunately, being influenced by the Traditional way, KSK and KP books always use the

 

expression of "in the constellations of..", where as the more apt expression would be "whose

 

Star Lord Is..". In todays days of computors, KP astrologers do not use the Constellations

 

at all, but refer to the Constellation Lord or Star-Lord.

 

Hope this helps"Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan wrote:

 

Respected Raichurji and all,

 

Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349

 

Para I: As in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification.

 

He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis.

 

But normally in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator of....

 

This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I might have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology or not.

 

As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in 7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?.

 

Anybody has a valid point on this,please clarify me on this point.

 

With thanks and regards

Balaji G

 

 

 

 

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Dear Balaji

Interesting point. But, your Dasha

of Ravi indicates higher education because Sun signifies 4,9 as described

by you. Secondly, You have completed your education in Mer Bhukti because

4th SL is Mercury only. See the following rule, which is true in many horoscopes,

"Even when a SubLord of any Cusp

is not the significator of that Cusp, it gives the result regarding that

Cusp in it's dasha/bhukti"

i.e. Your 4th SL is mer. which has

given the result of 4th house (education) in it's bhukti, even when Mer.

is not the significator of 4th.

This rule is true in many cases i

have seen. I don't know whether this rule is there anywhere in KP.

From our Group, Mr. Ajay Pandav

has also observed the same thing.

I agree with your point of Venus

being the Star lord of sun & sig. of 4,9,11, BUT, apart from the Chart,

we should/must also see the Dashas, Those Dashas which are Sig. of 4,9,11

give higher education, as in your case.

Regards

Abhay

"Balaji G.krishnan" wrote:

Dear punitji I am sorry to say that without

taking full signification of sun--6,4 and 9 then the query cannot be answered.

As told by respected raichurji and Late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,Four step theory

of seeing the signification of sub lord seperately,star lord seperately

and then predicting.Merc---lord of 5,8 occupying 7 and its star lord also

lord of 7 in 7. Then,how can we say about higher education with 4th CSL

not connecting to or signfying 4/9/11.So sun in star of venus lord of 4

and 9 gives a clear chit that higher education is there.More over,I have

completed Higher education successfully only in this Mercury bukthi in

sun dasa. Otherwise the rule said in K.P seems to be a more confusing for

me. THE STAR LORD OF THE SUBLORD CONNECTED TO is what I think right. Please

clarify me. With regardsBALAJI G

Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Balaji

ji, In my opinion we should not take full signification of Sun and take

only the ownership and occupation. So 9th and 4th, the signification due

to Venus -its star lord, should not be taken. You can use them as an infulencing

factor but not significators. Regards, Punit Pandey

On 4/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan

wrote:

Respected

Raichurji and all Thanks for your kind reply in the right time. So,I can

accept the theory of checking the Cuspal Sublord's signification

first and then its star lord's signification As

an example:To verify the chance of having Higher education?

The 4th CSL Mercury(lord of 5 and 8,but 5 is occupied by saturn) So only

8th bhava can be taken here. Mercury occupying 7th and conjoined with mars

lord of 3 and 10 in 7 Merc in star of sun lord of sun,occupying 7th bhava

and Sun in turn in star of venus lord of 4 and 9(9th bhava not occupied

by any planet). So 4th CSL MERC(7,8) IN STAR OF SUN(6,7,4,9) DENOTES POSSIBILITY.YES.Am

I right, sir??. Hope this should be right as otherwise I am not getting

a correct reason for the query. Hope,I am not disturbing you much,Sir.

Once again,Thank you so much for the detailed reply. With PranamsBalaji

G

anant raichur <anant_1608

wrote:

Dear

Balaji KSK says if the Sub-Lord is..... or is in the constellation of a

planet ..signifying... This is the essence of the 4 step method. You check

the Sub_lord's significance. You also check the significane of the

StarLord of the Sub. I do not have the Book Astro Secrets ....Here

the Basic significators are the House of Residence, and then Houses owned

by the Planet. The houes owned become important or Principal signioficators,

if they are vacant. Similary when a planet is the starlord of another,

the house this occupies, becomes the Pricipal Signifacator , the House

owned only if vacant. The basic idea is we should not restrict to Sub only,

but consider the Star Lord of this sub. Unfortunately, being influenced

by the Traditional way, KSK and KP books always use the expression of "in

the constellations of..", where as the more apt expression would be "whose

Star Lord Is..". In todays days of computors, KP astrologers do not

use the Constellations at all, but refer to the Constellation Lord or Star-Lord.

Hope this helps

"Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan

wrote:

Respected

Raichurji and all, Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets

PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349 Para I: As

in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies

houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter

when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies

houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification.

He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in

another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis. But normally

in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise

then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen

that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator

of.... This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I might

have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology

or not. As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in

7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e

merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification

of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?. Anybody has a

valid point on this,please clarify me on this point. With thanks and regardsBalaji

G

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Post your full birth particulars to let me get clear picture.

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

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On 4/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan wrote:

 

Dear punitji

 

I am sorry to say that without taking full signification of sun--6,4 and 9 then the query cannot be answered.

 

As told by respected raichurji and Late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,Four step theory of seeing the signification of sub lord seperately,star lord seperately and then predicting.Merc---lord of 5,8 occupying 7 and its star lord also lord of 7 in 7.

 

 

Then,how can we say about higher education with 4th CSL not connecting to or signfying 4/9/11.So sun in star of venus lord of 4 and 9 gives a clear chit that higher education is there.More over,I have completed Higher education successfully only in this Mercury bukthi in sun dasa.

 

 

Otherwise the rule said in K.P seems to be a more confusing for me.

 

THE STAR LORD OF THE SUBLORD CONNECTED TO is what I think right.

 

Please clarify me.

 

With regards

BALAJI G Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

 

 

 

Balaji ji,

 

In my opinion we should not take full signification of Sun and take only the ownership and occupation. So 9th and 4th, the signification due to Venus -its star lord, should not be taken. You can use them as an infulencing factor but not significators.

 

Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

On 4/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan

> wrote:

Respected Raichurji and all

 

Thanks for your kind reply in the right time.

 

So,I can accept the theory of checking the Cuspal Sublord's signification first and then its star lord's signification

 

As an example:To verify the chance of having Higher education?

 

The 4th CSL Mercury(lord of 5 and 8,but 5 is occupied by saturn)

 

So only 8th bhava can be taken here.

 

Mercury occupying 7th and conjoined with mars lord of 3 and 10 in 7

 

Merc in star of sun lord of sun,occupying 7th bhava and Sun in turn in star of venus lord of 4 and 9(9th bhava not occupied by any planet).

 

So 4th CSL MERC(7,8) IN STAR OF SUN(6,7,4,9) DENOTES POSSIBILITY.YES.Am I right, sir??.

 

Hope this should be right as otherwise I am not getting a correct reason for the query.

 

Hope,I am not disturbing you much,Sir.

 

Once again,Thank you so much for the detailed reply.

 

With Pranams

Balaji G

 

 

anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote:

 

Dear Balaji

 

KSK says if the Sub-Lord is..... or is in the constellation of a planet ..signifying...

 

This is the essence of the 4 step method. You check the Sub_lord's significance. You also check the significane of the StarLord of the Sub. I do not have the Book Astro Secrets ....

Here the Basic significators are the House of Residence, and then Houses owned by the Planet. The houes owned become important or Principal signioficators, if they are vacant.

 

Similary when a planet is the starlord of another, the house this occupies, becomes the Pricipal Signifacator , the House owned only if vacant.

 

The basic idea is we should not restrict to Sub only, but consider the Star Lord of this sub.

 

Unfortunately, being influenced by the Traditional way, KSK and KP books always use the

 

expression of " in the constellations of.. " , where as the more apt expression would be " whose

 

Star Lord Is.. " . In todays days of computors, KP astrologers do not use the Constellations

 

at all, but refer to the Constellation Lord or Star-Lord.

 

Hope this helps " Balaji G.krishnan " <balaji_g_krishnan wrote:

 

Respected Raichurji and all,

 

Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349

 

Para I: As in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification.

 

He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis.

 

But normally in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator of....

 

This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I might have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology or not.

 

As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in 7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?.

 

Anybody has a valid point on this,please clarify me on this point.

 

With thanks and regards

Balaji G

 

 

 

 

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Dear Punit ji,

I find you analysis of KP is excellant. A person approached me with the horoscope of his son and asked me to predict the date of marriage of his son. He gave the following Particulars of his son.

DOB: 17TH JAN'1976 TOB:1805 Hrs. POB: 77E36; 14N41

LAGNA :CANCER MOON AND SAT IN CANCER LAGNA MER,SUN IN 7th

I have done the analysis as per Vedic Astrology.

I gave him the date in October, 2005 , Merc/Sat/Rahu is running at that time.

Can you or any of the members anlyse as per KP and confirm my analysis. Any constructive criticism is welcome in the interest of astrology.

Srenivas DesabhatlaPunit Pandey <punitp wrote:

 

Balaji ji,

 

Post your full birth particulars to let me get clear picture.

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

On 4/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan wrote:

Dear punitji

 

I am sorry to say that without taking full signification of sun--6,4 and 9 then the query cannot be answered.

 

As told by respected raichurji and Late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,Four step theory of seeing the signification of sub lord seperately,star lord seperately and then predicting.Merc---lord of 5,8 occupying 7 and its star lord also lord of 7 in 7.

 

Then,how can we say about higher education with 4th CSL not connecting to or signfying 4/9/11.So sun in star of venus lord of 4 and 9 gives a clear chit that higher education is there.More over,I have completed Higher education successfully only in this Mercury bukthi in sun dasa.

 

Otherwise the rule said in K.P seems to be a more confusing for me.

 

THE STAR LORD OF THE SUBLORD CONNECTED TO is what I think right.

 

Please clarify me.

 

With regards

BALAJI G Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

 

 

Balaji ji,

 

In my opinion we should not take full signification of Sun and take only the ownership and occupation. So 9th and 4th, the signification due to Venus -its star lord, should not be taken. You can use them as an infulencing factor but not significators.

 

Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

On 4/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan > wrote:

Respected Raichurji and all

 

Thanks for your kind reply in the right time.

 

So,I can accept the theory of checking the Cuspal Sublord's signification first and then its star lord's signification

 

As an example:To verify the chance of having Higher education?

 

The 4th CSL Mercury(lord of 5 and 8,but 5 is occupied by saturn)

 

So only 8th bhava can be taken here.

 

Mercury occupying 7th and conjoined with mars lord of 3 and 10 in 7

 

Merc in star of sun lord of sun,occupying 7th bhava and Sun in turn in star of venus lord of 4 and 9(9th bhava not occupied by any planet).

 

So 4th CSL MERC(7,8) IN STAR OF SUN(6,7,4,9) DENOTES POSSIBILITY.YES.Am I right, sir??.

 

Hope this should be right as otherwise I am not getting a correct reason for the query.

 

Hope,I am not disturbing you much,Sir.

 

Once again,Thank you so much for the detailed reply.

 

With Pranams

Balaji G

 

 

anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote:

 

Dear Balaji

 

KSK says if the Sub-Lord is..... or is in the constellation of a planet ..signifying...

 

This is the essence of the 4 step method. You check the Sub_lord's significance. You also check the significane of the StarLord of the Sub. I do not have the Book Astro Secrets ....

Here the Basic significators are the House of Residence, and then Houses owned by the Planet. The houes owned become important or Principal signioficators, if they are vacant.

 

Similary when a planet is the starlord of another, the house this occupies, becomes the Pricipal Signifacator , the House owned only if vacant.

 

The basic idea is we should not restrict to Sub only, but consider the Star Lord of this sub.

 

Unfortunately, being influenced by the Traditional way, KSK and KP books always use the

 

expression of "in the constellations of..", where as the more apt expression would be "whose

 

Star Lord Is..". In todays days of computors, KP astrologers do not use the Constellations

 

at all, but refer to the Constellation Lord or Star-Lord.

 

Hope this helps"Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan wrote:

 

Respected Raichurji and all,

 

Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349

 

Para I: As in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification.

 

He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis.

 

But normally in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator of....

 

This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I might have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology or not.

 

As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in 7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?.

 

Anybody has a valid point on this,please clarify me on this point.

 

With thanks and regards

Balaji G

 

 

 

 

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Dear Punit ji,

I find you analysis of KP is excellant. A person approached me with the horoscope of his son and asked me to predict the date of marriage of his son. He gave the following Particulars of his son.

DOB: 17TH JAN'1976 TOB:1805 Hrs. POB: 77E36; 14N41

LAGNA :CANCER MOON AND SAT IN CANCER LAGNA MER,SUN IN 7th

I have done the analysis as per Vedic Astrology.

I gave him the date in October, 2005 , Merc/Sat/Rahu is running at that time.

Can you or any of the members anlyse as per KP and confirm my analysis. Any constructive criticism is welcome in the interest of astrology.

Srenivas DesabhatlaPunit Pandey <punitp wrote:

 

Balaji ji,

 

Post your full birth particulars to let me get clear picture.

 

Thanks & Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

On 4/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan wrote:

Dear punitji

 

I am sorry to say that without taking full signification of sun--6,4 and 9 then the query cannot be answered.

 

As told by respected raichurji and Late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,Four step theory of seeing the signification of sub lord seperately,star lord seperately and then predicting.Merc---lord of 5,8 occupying 7 and its star lord also lord of 7 in 7.

 

Then,how can we say about higher education with 4th CSL not connecting to or signfying 4/9/11.So sun in star of venus lord of 4 and 9 gives a clear chit that higher education is there.More over,I have completed Higher education successfully only in this Mercury bukthi in sun dasa.

 

Otherwise the rule said in K.P seems to be a more confusing for me.

 

THE STAR LORD OF THE SUBLORD CONNECTED TO is what I think right.

 

Please clarify me.

 

With regards

BALAJI G Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

 

 

Balaji ji,

 

In my opinion we should not take full signification of Sun and take only the ownership and occupation. So 9th and 4th, the signification due to Venus -its star lord, should not be taken. You can use them as an infulencing factor but not significators.

 

Regards,

 

Punit Pandey

On 4/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan > wrote:

Respected Raichurji and all

 

Thanks for your kind reply in the right time.

 

So,I can accept the theory of checking the Cuspal Sublord's signification first and then its star lord's signification

 

As an example:To verify the chance of having Higher education?

 

The 4th CSL Mercury(lord of 5 and 8,but 5 is occupied by saturn)

 

So only 8th bhava can be taken here.

 

Mercury occupying 7th and conjoined with mars lord of 3 and 10 in 7

 

Merc in star of sun lord of sun,occupying 7th bhava and Sun in turn in star of venus lord of 4 and 9(9th bhava not occupied by any planet).

 

So 4th CSL MERC(7,8) IN STAR OF SUN(6,7,4,9) DENOTES POSSIBILITY.YES.Am I right, sir??.

 

Hope this should be right as otherwise I am not getting a correct reason for the query.

 

Hope,I am not disturbing you much,Sir.

 

Once again,Thank you so much for the detailed reply.

 

With Pranams

Balaji G

 

 

anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote:

 

Dear Balaji

 

KSK says if the Sub-Lord is..... or is in the constellation of a planet ..signifying...

 

This is the essence of the 4 step method. You check the Sub_lord's significance. You also check the significane of the StarLord of the Sub. I do not have the Book Astro Secrets ....

Here the Basic significators are the House of Residence, and then Houses owned by the Planet. The houes owned become important or Principal signioficators, if they are vacant.

 

Similary when a planet is the starlord of another, the house this occupies, becomes the Pricipal Signifacator , the House owned only if vacant.

 

The basic idea is we should not restrict to Sub only, but consider the Star Lord of this sub.

 

Unfortunately, being influenced by the Traditional way, KSK and KP books always use the

 

expression of "in the constellations of..", where as the more apt expression would be "whose

 

Star Lord Is..". In todays days of computors, KP astrologers do not use the Constellations

 

at all, but refer to the Constellation Lord or Star-Lord.

 

Hope this helps"Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan wrote:

 

Respected Raichurji and all,

 

Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349

 

Para I: As in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification.

 

He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis.

 

But normally in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator of....

 

This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I might have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology or not.

 

As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in 7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?.

 

Anybody has a valid point on this,please clarify me on this point.

 

With thanks and regards

Balaji G

 

 

 

 

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-

 

Dear Balaji,

 

Further to what Sri Abhay has stated,if we refer to the book of K

Baskaran " Principles of Cuspal Interlinks " , it is clearly stated, a

cuspal sublord is responsible for all matters relating to the

Cusp.If the planet is sublord of more than one cusp,which is

sometimes the case,the affected cusps and hence house matters are

also involved.Sometimes the relation to other cusps come thru the

star lord of the cuspal sublord.

The fructification of matters are governed by the time

meter,Dasa/antar.

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- In , Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...>

wrote:

>

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Dear Abhayji,

 

Thanks for the reply.But my point is 4th for education at the graduation level.Generally related to worldly experiences.But Where is 9th..higher education???.MERC 4TH CSL IN STAR SIGNIFACATOR OF 9TH OR OTHER POINT IS JUP 9TH CSL ASPECTS SUN 180 DEGREES.

 

OR 7TH IS 11TH TO THE 9TH BHAVA .SO THAT IS ENOUGH TO CONCLUDE.WHICH INTERPRETETION IS RIGHT?

 

Merc not only of 4th CSL but also lord of 8th and 8th CSL.So it should have negated the bhava results.Why Not?/???.

 

Please check at your side and reply.

 

With thanks and regards

Balaji GopalakrishnanAbhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote:

Dear Balaji Interesting point. But, your Dasha of Ravi indicates higher education because Sun signifies 4,9 as described by you. Secondly, You have completed your education in Mer Bhukti because 4th SL is Mercury only. See the following rule, which is true in many horoscopes, "Even when a SubLord of any Cusp is not the significator of that Cusp, it gives the result regarding that Cusp in it's dasha/bhukti" i.e. Your 4th SL is mer. which has given the result of 4th house (education) in it's bhukti, even when Mer. is not the significator of 4th. This rule is true in many cases i have seen. I don't know whether this rule is there anywhere in KP. From our Group, Mr. Ajay Pandav has also observed the same thing. I agree with your point of Venus being the Star lord of sun & sig. of 4,9,11, BUT, apart from the Chart, we should/must also see the Dashas, Those Dashas which are Sig. of 4,9,11 give higher education, as in your case. Regards Abhay "Balaji G.krishnan" wrote: Dear punitji I am sorry to say that without taking full signification of sun--6,4 and 9 then the query cannot be answered. As told by respected raichurji and Late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,Four step theory of seeing the signification of sub lord seperately,star lord seperately and then predicting.Merc---lord of 5,8 occupying 7 and its star lord also lord of 7 in 7. Then,how can we say about higher education with 4th CSL not connecting to or signfying 4/9/11.So sun in star of venus lord of 4 and 9 gives a clear chit that higher education is there.More over,I have completed Higher education successfully only in this Mercury bukthi in sun dasa. Otherwise the rule said in K.P seems to be a more confusing for me. THE STAR LORD OF THE SUBLORD CONNECTED TO is what I think right. Please clarify me. With regardsBALAJI G Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Balaji ji, In my opinion we should not take full signification of Sun and take only the ownership and occupation. So 9th and 4th, the signification due to Venus -its star lord, should not be taken. You can use them as an infulencing factor but not significators. Regards, Punit Pandey On 4/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan wrote: Respected Raichurji and all Thanks for your kind reply in the right time. So,I can accept the theory of checking the Cuspal Sublord's signification first and then its star lord's signification As an example:To verify the chance of having Higher education? The 4th CSL Mercury(lord of 5 and 8,but 5 is occupied by saturn) So only 8th bhava can be taken here. Mercury occupying 7th and conjoined with mars lord of 3 and 10 in 7 Merc in star of sun lord of sun,occupying 7th bhava and Sun in turn in star of venus lord of 4 and 9(9th bhava not occupied by any planet). So 4th CSL MERC(7,8) IN STAR OF SUN(6,7,4,9) DENOTES POSSIBILITY.YES.Am I right, sir??. Hope this should be right as otherwise I am not getting a correct reason for

the query. Hope,I am not disturbing you much,Sir. Once again,Thank you so much for the detailed reply. With PranamsBalaji G anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: Dear Balaji KSK says if the Sub-Lord is..... or is in the constellation of a planet ..signifying... This is the essence of the 4 step method. You check the Sub_lord's significance. You also check the significane of the StarLord of the Sub. I do not have the Book Astro Secrets ....Here the Basic significators are the House of Residence, and then Houses owned by the Planet. The houes owned become important or Principal signioficators, if they are vacant. Similary when a planet is the starlord of another, the house this occupies, becomes the Pricipal Signifacator , the House owned only if vacant. The basic idea is we should not restrict to Sub only, but consider the Star Lord of this sub. Unfortunately, being influenced by the Traditional way, KSK and KP books always use the expression of "in the constellations of..", where as the more apt expression would be "whose Star Lord Is..".

In todays days of computors, KP astrologers do not use the Constellations at all, but refer to the Constellation Lord or Star-Lord. Hope this helps "Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan wrote: Respected Raichurji and all, Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349 Para I: As in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification. He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis. But normally in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator of.... This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I

might have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology or not. As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in 7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?. Anybody has a valid point on this,please clarify me on this point. With thanks and regardsBalaji G India Matrimony: Find your life partner online.

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Dear Balaji,

 

Further to what Sri Abhay has stated,if we refer to the book of K

Baskaran " Principles of Cuspal Interlinks " , it is clearly stated, a

cuspal sublord is responsible for all matters relating to the

Cusp.If the planet is sublord of more than one cusp,which is

sometimes the case,the affected cusps and hence house matters are

also involved.Sometimes the relation to other cusps come thru the

star lord of the cuspal sublord.

The fructification of matters are governed by the time

meter,Dasa/antar.

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- In , Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...>

wrote:

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Dear Abhayji,

 

Thanks for the reply.But my point is 4th for education at the graduation level.Generally related to worldly experiences.But Where is 9th..higher education???.MERC 4TH CSL IN STAR SIGNIFACATOR OF 9TH OR OTHER POINT IS JUP 9TH CSL ASPECTS SUN 180 DEGREES.

 

OR 7TH IS 11TH TO THE 9TH BHAVA .SO THAT IS ENOUGH TO CONCLUDE.WHICH INTERPRETETION IS RIGHT?

 

Merc not only of 4th CSL but also lord of 8th and 8th CSL.So it should have negated the bhava results.Why Not?/???.

 

Please check at your side and reply.

 

With thanks and regards

Balaji GopalakrishnanAbhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote:

Dear Balaji Interesting point. But, your Dasha of Ravi indicates higher education because Sun signifies 4,9 as described by you. Secondly, You have completed your education in Mer Bhukti because 4th SL is Mercury only. See the following rule, which is true in many horoscopes, "Even when a SubLord of any Cusp is not the significator of that Cusp, it gives the result regarding that Cusp in it's dasha/bhukti" i.e. Your 4th SL is mer. which has given the result of 4th house (education) in it's bhukti, even when Mer. is not the significator of 4th. This rule is true in many cases i have seen. I don't know whether this rule is there anywhere in KP. From our Group, Mr. Ajay Pandav has also observed the same thing. I agree with your point of Venus being the Star lord of sun & sig. of 4,9,11, BUT, apart from the Chart, we should/must also see the Dashas, Those Dashas which are Sig. of 4,9,11 give higher education, as in your case. Regards Abhay "Balaji G.krishnan" wrote: Dear punitji I am sorry to say that without taking full signification of sun--6,4 and 9 then the query cannot be answered. As told by respected raichurji and Late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,Four step theory of seeing the signification of sub lord seperately,star lord seperately and then predicting.Merc---lord of 5,8 occupying 7 and its star lord also lord of 7 in 7. Then,how can we say about higher education with 4th CSL not connecting to or signfying 4/9/11.So sun in star of venus lord of 4 and 9 gives a clear chit that higher education is there.More over,I have completed Higher education successfully only in this Mercury bukthi in sun dasa. Otherwise the rule said in K.P seems to be a more confusing for me. THE STAR LORD OF THE SUBLORD CONNECTED TO is what I think right. Please clarify me. With regardsBALAJI G Punit Pandey <punitp wrote: Balaji ji, In my opinion we should not take full signification of Sun and take only the ownership and occupation. So 9th and 4th, the signification due to Venus -its star lord, should not be taken. You can use them as an infulencing factor but not significators. Regards, Punit Pandey On 4/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan wrote: Respected Raichurji and all Thanks for your kind reply in the right time. So,I can accept the theory of checking the Cuspal Sublord's signification first and then its star lord's signification As an example:To verify the chance of having Higher education? The 4th CSL Mercury(lord of 5 and 8,but 5 is occupied by saturn) So only 8th bhava can be taken here. Mercury occupying 7th and conjoined with mars lord of 3 and 10 in 7 Merc in star of sun lord of sun,occupying 7th bhava and Sun in turn in star of venus lord of 4 and 9(9th bhava not occupied by any planet). So 4th CSL MERC(7,8) IN STAR OF SUN(6,7,4,9) DENOTES POSSIBILITY.YES.Am I right, sir??. Hope this should be right as otherwise I am not getting a correct reason for

the query. Hope,I am not disturbing you much,Sir. Once again,Thank you so much for the detailed reply. With PranamsBalaji G anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: Dear Balaji KSK says if the Sub-Lord is..... or is in the constellation of a planet ..signifying... This is the essence of the 4 step method. You check the Sub_lord's significance. You also check the significane of the StarLord of the Sub. I do not have the Book Astro Secrets ....Here the Basic significators are the House of Residence, and then Houses owned by the Planet. The houes owned become important or Principal signioficators, if they are vacant. Similary when a planet is the starlord of another, the house this occupies, becomes the Pricipal Signifacator , the House owned only if vacant. The basic idea is we should not restrict to Sub only, but consider the Star Lord of this sub. Unfortunately, being influenced by the Traditional way, KSK and KP books always use the expression of "in the constellations of..", where as the more apt expression would be "whose Star Lord Is..".

In todays days of computors, KP astrologers do not use the Constellations at all, but refer to the Constellation Lord or Star-Lord. Hope this helps "Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan wrote: Respected Raichurji and all, Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349 Para I: As in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification. He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis. But normally in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator of.... This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I

might have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology or not. As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in 7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?. Anybody has a valid point on this,please clarify me on this point. With thanks and regardsBalaji G India Matrimony: Find your life partner online.

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Dear Mr. Balaji

Your point of considering "Sun in the start of Venus" needs checking

in various other horoscopes. I think, normally, we all go till star lord

of the Sub lord & not beyond this step. In your case, the point mentioned

by you sounds correct, but, if it proves correct in many other horoscope

then, one should consider it.

Regards

Abhay

 

 

"Balaji G.krishnan" wrote:

Dear Abhayji, Thanks for the reply.But my point

is 4th for education at the graduation level.Generally related to worldly

experiences.But Where is 9th..higher education???.MERC 4TH CSL IN STAR

SIGNIFACATOR OF 9TH OR OTHER POINT IS JUP 9TH CSL ASPECTS SUN 180 DEGREES. OR

7TH IS 11TH TO THE 9TH BHAVA .SO THAT IS ENOUGH TO CONCLUDE.WHICH INTERPRETETION

IS RIGHT? Merc not only of 4th CSL but also lord of 8th and 8th CSL.So

it should have negated the bhava results.Why Not?/???. Please check

at your side and reply. With thanks and regardsBalaji Gopalakrishnan

Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote:

Dear

Balaji

Interesting point. But, your Dasha

of Ravi indicates higher education because Sun signifies 4,9 as described

by you. Secondly, You have completed your education in Mer Bhukti because

4th SL is Mercury only. See the following rule, which is true in many horoscopes,

"Even when a SubLord of any Cusp

is not the significator of that Cusp, it gives the result regarding that

Cusp in it's dasha/bhukti"

i.e. Your 4th SL is mer. which has

given the result of 4th house (education) in it's bhukti, even when Mer.

is not the significator of 4th.

This rule is true in many cases i

have seen. I don't know whether this rule is there anywhere in KP.

From our Group, Mr. Ajay Pandav

has also observed the same thing.

I agree with your point of Venus

being the Star lord of sun & sig. of 4,9,11, BUT, apart from the Chart,

we should/must also see the Dashas, Those Dashas which are Sig. of 4,9,11

give higher education, as in your case.

Regards

Abhay

"Balaji G.krishnan" wrote:

Dear punitji I am sorry to say that without

taking full signification of sun--6,4 and 9 then the query cannot be answered.

As told by respected raichurji and Late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,Four step theory

of seeing the signification of sub lord seperately,star lord seperately

and then predicting.Merc---lord of 5,8 occupying 7 and its star lord also

lord of 7 in 7. Then,how can we say about higher education with 4th CSL

not connecting to or signfying 4/9/11.So sun in star of venus lord of 4

and 9 gives a clear chit that higher education is there.More over,I have

completed Higher education successfully only in this Mercury bukthi in

sun dasa. Otherwise the rule said in K.P seems to be a more confusing for

me. THE STAR LORD OF THE SUBLORD CONNECTED TO is what I think right. Please

clarify me. With regardsBALAJI G

Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Balaji

ji, In my opinion we should not take full signification of Sun and take

only the ownership and occupation. So 9th and 4th, the signification due

to Venus -its star lord, should not be taken. You can use them as an infulencing

factor but not significators. Regards, Punit Pandey

On 4/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan

wrote:

Respected

Raichurji and all Thanks for your kind reply in the right time. So,I can

accept the theory of checking the Cuspal Sublord's signification

first and then its star lord's signification As

an example:To verify the chance of having Higher education?

The 4th CSL Mercury(lord of 5 and 8,but 5 is occupied by saturn) So only

8th bhava can be taken here. Mercury occupying 7th and conjoined with mars

lord of 3 and 10 in 7 Merc in star of sun lord of sun,occupying 7th bhava

and Sun in turn in star of venus lord of 4 and 9(9th bhava not occupied

by any planet). So 4th CSL MERC(7,8) IN STAR OF SUN(6,7,4,9) DENOTES POSSIBILITY.YES.Am

I right, sir??. Hope this should be right as otherwise I am not getting

a correct reason for the query. Hope,I am not disturbing you much,Sir.

Once again,Thank you so much for the detailed reply. With PranamsBalaji

G

anant raichur <anant_1608

wrote:

Dear

Balaji KSK says if the Sub-Lord is..... or is in the constellation of a

planet ..signifying... This is the essence of the 4 step method. You check

the Sub_lord's significance. You also check the significane of the

StarLord of the Sub. I do not have the Book Astro Secrets ....Here

the Basic significators are the House of Residence, and then Houses owned

by the Planet. The houes owned become important or Principal signioficators,

if they are vacant. Similary when a planet is the starlord of another,

the house this occupies, becomes the Pricipal Signifacator , the House

owned only if vacant. The basic idea is we should not restrict to Sub only,

but consider the Star Lord of this sub. Unfortunately, being influenced

by the Traditional way, KSK and KP books always use the expression of "in

the constellations of..", where as the more apt expression would be "whose

Star Lord Is..". In todays days of computors, KP astrologers do not

use the Constellations at all, but refer to the Constellation Lord or Star-Lord.

Hope this helps

"Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan

wrote:

Respected

Raichurji and all, Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets

PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349 Para I: As

in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies

houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter

when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies

houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification.

He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in

another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis. But normally

in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise

then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen

that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator

of.... This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I might

have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology

or not. As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in

7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e

merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification

of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?. Anybody has a

valid point on this,please clarify me on this point. With thanks and regardsBalaji

G

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Dear Balaji

About the case, I don't think all answers are correct or really near

to the situation. I put the case infront of all only because i myself found

it difficult to judge the problem & i was interested in knowing if

anybody else can judge the real picture. No one has mentioned about Addiction.

Anyway ! it was difficult to judge, no question about it. Of course, analysis

of the chart after knowing the facts is also important, no doubt, otherwise

the science won't develop further.

Regards

Abhay

"Balaji G.krishnan" wrote:

Dear Abhayji Thank you very much for the quiz and

for the reply. Regarding,your quiz,the bhavas which I and mostly by all

are 5,12 predominantly.I believe so from other's reply.The addiction might

be because of any reasons mostly if a person is not mentally happy...he

goes for this.That to ages between 25 to 35 the chances and this population

is more. So,the root cause has been identified almost by many.Like jobless,sexual

problems.May be answers like childless or changing a job or going abroad

are irrelevent here. So,I think the answers are found out my many in a

indirect manner which I hope is true in the real picture.Am I right?.I

am not trying to beg or justify.But it should be true and considered. Regarding

my chart,Astro secrets Part 1 Late. Mr.shanmugham says in page No.349 very

clearly that 10 CSL, planet A in the star of B ,this B if in his own star

as owner of the 6th for Rishaba Lagna or this B if it occupies 6th,then

only it will be known as 6th house signification or connection.That is

what is known as 10th sub signification.Ex.Planet A,CSL OF 10TH in star

of B(lord of 6 in 7) for rishaba lagna and Planet B in planet C (lord of

2 and 5).Here 10th CSL is connecting to 2,5 and not 6 as we think.So he

is in business and not service.Hope U got it right?. He also stresses in

the coming paras,likewise all the cuspal subs are to be understood........

So,when u apply this in my chart,u get clear results.Some will suggest

to rectify without understanding the point.Thats wrong.I have spoke to

many regarding this from DELHI TO KANYAKUMARI.At salem,TN many are accepting

this and following this.I believe that a planet can offer the values of

it star and the value of its star can be determined by its star only. Say

X IN STAR OF Y AND Y IN STAR OF Z. X TAKES WHAT Y GIVES AND Y SHOULD HAVE

SOMETHING TO GIVE WHICH IT RECIEVES FROM Z. U got it?.So,Y

takes from Z to give this through X.This should be the real meaning of

stellar astrology.This information I have given to anurodhji also.But so

far,I dont know the status. In my last five years of conversation,most

of the so-called K.P astrologers they either try to confuse us by saying

new methods,techniques as if they are trying to equate inventors or they

hide many known and valuable informations.Thats why the system is still

not grown here. Wishing you all the best.Take care.bye With regardsBalaji

G

Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote:

Dear

Mr. Balaji

Your point of considering "Sun in the start of Venus" needs checking

in various other horoscopes. I think, normally, we all go till star lord

of the Sub lord & not beyond this step. In your case, the point mentioned

by you sounds correct, but, if it proves correct in many other horoscope

then, one should consider it.

Regards

Abhay

 

 

"Balaji G.krishnan" wrote:

Dear Abhayji, Thanks for the reply.But my point

is 4th for education at the graduation level.Generally related to worldly

experiences.But Where is 9th..higher education???.MERC 4TH CSL IN STAR

SIGNIFACATOR OF 9TH OR OTHER POINT IS JUP 9TH CSL ASPECTS SUN 180 DEGREES.

OR 7TH IS 11TH TO THE 9TH BHAVA .SO THAT IS ENOUGH TO CONCLUDE.WHICH INTERPRETETION

IS RIGHT? Merc not only of 4th CSL but also lord of 8th and 8th CSL.So

it should have negated the bhava results.Why Not?/???. Please check at

your side and reply. With thanks and regardsBalaji Gopalakrishnan

Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote:

Dear

Balaji

Interesting point. But, your Dasha

of Ravi indicates higher education because Sun signifies 4,9 as described

by you. Secondly, You have completed your education in Mer Bhukti because

4th SL is Mercury only. See the following rule, which is true in many horoscopes,

"Even when a SubLord of any Cusp

is not the significator of that Cusp, it gives the result regarding that

Cusp in it's dasha/bhukti"

i.e. Your 4th SL is mer. which has

given the result of 4th house (education) in it's bhukti, even when Mer.

is not the significator of 4th.

This rule is true in many cases i

have seen. I don't know whether this rule is there anywhere in KP.

From our Group, Mr. Ajay Pandav

has also observed the same thing.

I agree with your point of Venus

being the Star lord of sun & sig. of 4,9,11, BUT, apart from the Chart,

we should/must also see the Dashas, Those Dashas which are Sig. of 4,9,11

give higher education, as in your case.

Regards

Abhay

"Balaji G.krishnan" wrote:

Dear punitji I am sorry to say that without

taking full signification of sun--6,4 and 9 then the query cannot be answered.

As told by respected raichurji and Late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,Four step theory

of seeing the signification of sub lord seperately,star lord seperately

and then predicting.Merc---lord of 5,8 occupying 7 and its star lord also

lord of 7 in 7. Then,how can we say about higher education with 4th CSL

not connecting to or signfying 4/9/11.So sun in star of venus lord of 4

and 9 gives a clear chit that higher education is there.More over,I have

completed Higher education successfully only in this Mercury bukthi in

sun dasa. Otherwise the rule said in K.P seems to be a more confusing for

me. THE STAR LORD OF THE SUBLORD CONNECTED TO is what I think right. Please

clarify me. With regardsBALAJI G

Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Balaji

ji, In my opinion we should not take full signification of Sun and take

only the ownership and occupation. So 9th and 4th, the signification due

to Venus -its star lord, should not be taken. You can use them as an infulencing

factor but not significators. Regards, Punit Pandey

On 4/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan

wrote:

Respected

Raichurji and all Thanks for your kind reply in the right time. So,I can

accept the theory of checking the Cuspal Sublord's signification

first and then its star lord's signification As

an example:To verify the chance of having Higher education?

The 4th CSL Mercury(lord of 5 and 8,but 5 is occupied by saturn) So only

8th bhava can be taken here. Mercury occupying 7th and conjoined with mars

lord of 3 and 10 in 7 Merc in star of sun lord of sun,occupying 7th bhava

and Sun in turn in star of venus lord of 4 and 9(9th bhava not occupied

by any planet). So 4th CSL MERC(7,8) IN STAR OF SUN(6,7,4,9) DENOTES POSSIBILITY.YES.Am

I right, sir??. Hope this should be right as otherwise I am not getting

a correct reason for the query. Hope,I am not disturbing you much,Sir.

Once again,Thank you so much for the detailed reply. With PranamsBalaji

G

anant raichur <anant_1608

wrote:

Dear

Balaji KSK says if the Sub-Lord is..... or is in the constellation of a

planet ..signifying... This is the essence of the 4 step method. You check

the Sub_lord's significance. You also check the significane of the

StarLord of the Sub. I do not have the Book Astro Secrets ....Here

the Basic significators are the House of Residence, and then Houses owned

by the Planet. The houes owned become important or Principal signioficators,

if they are vacant. Similary when a planet is the starlord of another,

the house this occupies, becomes the Pricipal Signifacator , the House

owned only if vacant. The basic idea is we should not restrict to Sub only,

but consider the Star Lord of this sub. Unfortunately, being influenced

by the Traditional way, KSK and KP books always use the expression of "in

the constellations of..", where as the more apt expression would be "whose

Star Lord Is..". In todays days of computors, KP astrologers do not

use the Constellations at all, but refer to the Constellation Lord or Star-Lord.

Hope this helps

"Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan

wrote:

Respected

Raichurji and all, Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets

PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349 Para I: As

in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies

houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter

when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies

houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification.

He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in

another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis. But normally

in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise

then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen

that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator

of.... This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I might

have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology

or not. As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in

7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e

merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification

of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?. Anybody has a

valid point on this,please clarify me on this point. With thanks and regardsBalaji

G

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[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Balaji

Your point of considering "Sun in the start of Venus" needs checking

in various other horoscopes. I think, normally, we all go till star lord

of the Sub lord & not beyond this step. In your case, the point mentioned

by you sounds correct, but, if it proves correct in many other horoscope

then, one should consider it.

Regards

Abhay

 

 

"Balaji G.krishnan" wrote:

Dear Abhayji, Thanks for the reply.But my point

is 4th for education at the graduation level.Generally related to worldly

experiences.But Where is 9th..higher education???.MERC 4TH CSL IN STAR

SIGNIFACATOR OF 9TH OR OTHER POINT IS JUP 9TH CSL ASPECTS SUN 180 DEGREES. OR

7TH IS 11TH TO THE 9TH BHAVA .SO THAT IS ENOUGH TO CONCLUDE.WHICH INTERPRETETION

IS RIGHT? Merc not only of 4th CSL but also lord of 8th and 8th CSL.So

it should have negated the bhava results.Why Not?/???. Please check

at your side and reply. With thanks and regardsBalaji Gopalakrishnan

Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote:

Dear

Balaji

Interesting point. But, your Dasha

of Ravi indicates higher education because Sun signifies 4,9 as described

by you. Secondly, You have completed your education in Mer Bhukti because

4th SL is Mercury only. See the following rule, which is true in many horoscopes,

"Even when a SubLord of any Cusp

is not the significator of that Cusp, it gives the result regarding that

Cusp in it's dasha/bhukti"

i.e. Your 4th SL is mer. which has

given the result of 4th house (education) in it's bhukti, even when Mer.

is not the significator of 4th.

This rule is true in many cases i

have seen. I don't know whether this rule is there anywhere in KP.

From our Group, Mr. Ajay Pandav

has also observed the same thing.

I agree with your point of Venus

being the Star lord of sun & sig. of 4,9,11, BUT, apart from the Chart,

we should/must also see the Dashas, Those Dashas which are Sig. of 4,9,11

give higher education, as in your case.

Regards

Abhay

"Balaji G.krishnan" wrote:

Dear punitji I am sorry to say that without

taking full signification of sun--6,4 and 9 then the query cannot be answered.

As told by respected raichurji and Late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,Four step theory

of seeing the signification of sub lord seperately,star lord seperately

and then predicting.Merc---lord of 5,8 occupying 7 and its star lord also

lord of 7 in 7. Then,how can we say about higher education with 4th CSL

not connecting to or signfying 4/9/11.So sun in star of venus lord of 4

and 9 gives a clear chit that higher education is there.More over,I have

completed Higher education successfully only in this Mercury bukthi in

sun dasa. Otherwise the rule said in K.P seems to be a more confusing for

me. THE STAR LORD OF THE SUBLORD CONNECTED TO is what I think right. Please

clarify me. With regardsBALAJI G

Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Balaji

ji, In my opinion we should not take full signification of Sun and take

only the ownership and occupation. So 9th and 4th, the signification due

to Venus -its star lord, should not be taken. You can use them as an infulencing

factor but not significators. Regards, Punit Pandey

On 4/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan

wrote:

Respected

Raichurji and all Thanks for your kind reply in the right time. So,I can

accept the theory of checking the Cuspal Sublord's signification

first and then its star lord's signification As

an example:To verify the chance of having Higher education?

The 4th CSL Mercury(lord of 5 and 8,but 5 is occupied by saturn) So only

8th bhava can be taken here. Mercury occupying 7th and conjoined with mars

lord of 3 and 10 in 7 Merc in star of sun lord of sun,occupying 7th bhava

and Sun in turn in star of venus lord of 4 and 9(9th bhava not occupied

by any planet). So 4th CSL MERC(7,8) IN STAR OF SUN(6,7,4,9) DENOTES POSSIBILITY.YES.Am

I right, sir??. Hope this should be right as otherwise I am not getting

a correct reason for the query. Hope,I am not disturbing you much,Sir.

Once again,Thank you so much for the detailed reply. With PranamsBalaji

G

anant raichur <anant_1608

wrote:

Dear

Balaji KSK says if the Sub-Lord is..... or is in the constellation of a

planet ..signifying... This is the essence of the 4 step method. You check

the Sub_lord's significance. You also check the significane of the

StarLord of the Sub. I do not have the Book Astro Secrets ....Here

the Basic significators are the House of Residence, and then Houses owned

by the Planet. The houes owned become important or Principal signioficators,

if they are vacant. Similary when a planet is the starlord of another,

the house this occupies, becomes the Pricipal Signifacator , the House

owned only if vacant. The basic idea is we should not restrict to Sub only,

but consider the Star Lord of this sub. Unfortunately, being influenced

by the Traditional way, KSK and KP books always use the expression of "in

the constellations of..", where as the more apt expression would be "whose

Star Lord Is..". In todays days of computors, KP astrologers do not

use the Constellations at all, but refer to the Constellation Lord or Star-Lord.

Hope this helps

"Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan

wrote:

Respected

Raichurji and all, Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets

PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349 Para I: As

in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies

houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter

when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies

houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification.

He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in

another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis. But normally

in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise

then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen

that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator

of.... This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I might

have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology

or not. As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in

7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e

merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification

of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?. Anybody has a

valid point on this,please clarify me on this point. With thanks and regardsBalaji

G

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Dear Balaji

About the case, I don't think all answers are correct or really near

to the situation. I put the case infront of all only because i myself found

it difficult to judge the problem & i was interested in knowing if

anybody else can judge the real picture. No one has mentioned about Addiction.

Anyway ! it was difficult to judge, no question about it. Of course, analysis

of the chart after knowing the facts is also important, no doubt, otherwise

the science won't develop further.

Regards

Abhay

"Balaji G.krishnan" wrote:

Dear Abhayji Thank you very much for the quiz and

for the reply. Regarding,your quiz,the bhavas which I and mostly by all

are 5,12 predominantly.I believe so from other's reply.The addiction might

be because of any reasons mostly if a person is not mentally happy...he

goes for this.That to ages between 25 to 35 the chances and this population

is more. So,the root cause has been identified almost by many.Like jobless,sexual

problems.May be answers like childless or changing a job or going abroad

are irrelevent here. So,I think the answers are found out my many in a

indirect manner which I hope is true in the real picture.Am I right?.I

am not trying to beg or justify.But it should be true and considered. Regarding

my chart,Astro secrets Part 1 Late. Mr.shanmugham says in page No.349 very

clearly that 10 CSL, planet A in the star of B ,this B if in his own star

as owner of the 6th for Rishaba Lagna or this B if it occupies 6th,then

only it will be known as 6th house signification or connection.That is

what is known as 10th sub signification.Ex.Planet A,CSL OF 10TH in star

of B(lord of 6 in 7) for rishaba lagna and Planet B in planet C (lord of

2 and 5).Here 10th CSL is connecting to 2,5 and not 6 as we think.So he

is in business and not service.Hope U got it right?. He also stresses in

the coming paras,likewise all the cuspal subs are to be understood........

So,when u apply this in my chart,u get clear results.Some will suggest

to rectify without understanding the point.Thats wrong.I have spoke to

many regarding this from DELHI TO KANYAKUMARI.At salem,TN many are accepting

this and following this.I believe that a planet can offer the values of

it star and the value of its star can be determined by its star only. Say

X IN STAR OF Y AND Y IN STAR OF Z. X TAKES WHAT Y GIVES AND Y SHOULD HAVE

SOMETHING TO GIVE WHICH IT RECIEVES FROM Z. U got it?.So,Y

takes from Z to give this through X.This should be the real meaning of

stellar astrology.This information I have given to anurodhji also.But so

far,I dont know the status. In my last five years of conversation,most

of the so-called K.P astrologers they either try to confuse us by saying

new methods,techniques as if they are trying to equate inventors or they

hide many known and valuable informations.Thats why the system is still

not grown here. Wishing you all the best.Take care.bye With regardsBalaji

G

Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote:

Dear

Mr. Balaji

Your point of considering "Sun in the start of Venus" needs checking

in various other horoscopes. I think, normally, we all go till star lord

of the Sub lord & not beyond this step. In your case, the point mentioned

by you sounds correct, but, if it proves correct in many other horoscope

then, one should consider it.

Regards

Abhay

 

 

"Balaji G.krishnan" wrote:

Dear Abhayji, Thanks for the reply.But my point

is 4th for education at the graduation level.Generally related to worldly

experiences.But Where is 9th..higher education???.MERC 4TH CSL IN STAR

SIGNIFACATOR OF 9TH OR OTHER POINT IS JUP 9TH CSL ASPECTS SUN 180 DEGREES.

OR 7TH IS 11TH TO THE 9TH BHAVA .SO THAT IS ENOUGH TO CONCLUDE.WHICH INTERPRETETION

IS RIGHT? Merc not only of 4th CSL but also lord of 8th and 8th CSL.So

it should have negated the bhava results.Why Not?/???. Please check at

your side and reply. With thanks and regardsBalaji Gopalakrishnan

Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote:

Dear

Balaji

Interesting point. But, your Dasha

of Ravi indicates higher education because Sun signifies 4,9 as described

by you. Secondly, You have completed your education in Mer Bhukti because

4th SL is Mercury only. See the following rule, which is true in many horoscopes,

"Even when a SubLord of any Cusp

is not the significator of that Cusp, it gives the result regarding that

Cusp in it's dasha/bhukti"

i.e. Your 4th SL is mer. which has

given the result of 4th house (education) in it's bhukti, even when Mer.

is not the significator of 4th.

This rule is true in many cases i

have seen. I don't know whether this rule is there anywhere in KP.

From our Group, Mr. Ajay Pandav

has also observed the same thing.

I agree with your point of Venus

being the Star lord of sun & sig. of 4,9,11, BUT, apart from the Chart,

we should/must also see the Dashas, Those Dashas which are Sig. of 4,9,11

give higher education, as in your case.

Regards

Abhay

"Balaji G.krishnan" wrote:

Dear punitji I am sorry to say that without

taking full signification of sun--6,4 and 9 then the query cannot be answered.

As told by respected raichurji and Late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham,Four step theory

of seeing the signification of sub lord seperately,star lord seperately

and then predicting.Merc---lord of 5,8 occupying 7 and its star lord also

lord of 7 in 7. Then,how can we say about higher education with 4th CSL

not connecting to or signfying 4/9/11.So sun in star of venus lord of 4

and 9 gives a clear chit that higher education is there.More over,I have

completed Higher education successfully only in this Mercury bukthi in

sun dasa. Otherwise the rule said in K.P seems to be a more confusing for

me. THE STAR LORD OF THE SUBLORD CONNECTED TO is what I think right. Please

clarify me. With regardsBALAJI G

Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Balaji

ji, In my opinion we should not take full signification of Sun and take

only the ownership and occupation. So 9th and 4th, the signification due

to Venus -its star lord, should not be taken. You can use them as an infulencing

factor but not significators. Regards, Punit Pandey

On 4/25/05, Balaji G.krishnan <balaji_g_krishnan

wrote:

Respected

Raichurji and all Thanks for your kind reply in the right time. So,I can

accept the theory of checking the Cuspal Sublord's signification

first and then its star lord's signification As

an example:To verify the chance of having Higher education?

The 4th CSL Mercury(lord of 5 and 8,but 5 is occupied by saturn) So only

8th bhava can be taken here. Mercury occupying 7th and conjoined with mars

lord of 3 and 10 in 7 Merc in star of sun lord of sun,occupying 7th bhava

and Sun in turn in star of venus lord of 4 and 9(9th bhava not occupied

by any planet). So 4th CSL MERC(7,8) IN STAR OF SUN(6,7,4,9) DENOTES POSSIBILITY.YES.Am

I right, sir??. Hope this should be right as otherwise I am not getting

a correct reason for the query. Hope,I am not disturbing you much,Sir.

Once again,Thank you so much for the detailed reply. With PranamsBalaji

G

anant raichur <anant_1608

wrote:

Dear

Balaji KSK says if the Sub-Lord is..... or is in the constellation of a

planet ..signifying... This is the essence of the 4 step method. You check

the Sub_lord's significance. You also check the significane of the

StarLord of the Sub. I do not have the Book Astro Secrets ....Here

the Basic significators are the House of Residence, and then Houses owned

by the Planet. The houes owned become important or Principal signioficators,

if they are vacant. Similary when a planet is the starlord of another,

the house this occupies, becomes the Pricipal Signifacator , the House

owned only if vacant. The basic idea is we should not restrict to Sub only,

but consider the Star Lord of this sub. Unfortunately, being influenced

by the Traditional way, KSK and KP books always use the expression of "in

the constellations of..", where as the more apt expression would be "whose

Star Lord Is..". In todays days of computors, KP astrologers do not

use the Constellations at all, but refer to the Constellation Lord or Star-Lord.

Hope this helps

"Balaji G.krishnan" <balaji_g_krishnan

wrote:

Respected

Raichurji and all, Kindly clarify me on these lines as given in Astro secrets

PartI written by (Late) Mr.M.P.Shanmugham.page No.349 Para I: As

in this example chart,10th CSL is jupiter.How this Sublord Jupiter signifies

houses 6-8 or houses 7-10-11 is to be explained.This 10th Sublord Jupiter

when deposited in a star that starlord in turn by its star deposit indicated/signifies

houses 6-8 or house 7-10-11.This is exactly what is called 10th sub signification.

He has mentioned again as 10th CSL in star of a planet and that star in

another star signifying matters should be taken for analysis. But normally

in all articles,I have seen only 10TH CSL signifying 7th by its starwise

then predicting as business.But in Guruji K.S.K's articles I have seen

that he is mentioning as CSL in the star of a planet is a significator

of.... This particular aspect of analysis is disturbing me much.I might

have asked a question which might be related to basics of K.P astrology

or not. As already mentioned earlier ,my 4th CSL mercury is directly in

7th and not signifying 9 by starwise.But if I go further seeing its star,i.e

merc in star of sun and sun in venus star......there the signification

of 4,9 is present.And I personally feel should be right?. Anybody has a

valid point on this,please clarify me on this point. With thanks and regardsBalaji

G

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