Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Dear Rangarajan, I donot have experience as you have imagined but my opinion is that when you are working at any point of time , the planetary position of that time will give clues for your problems. So you should combine the RPs with the chart of KP number and see the RPs for better clues. However, I have seen that if some mischieve is being played on you then Mer will repeat as important RP of that situation. Inder , " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy " <ranga@m...> wrote: > > Dear Members, > I have a delicate question. > > All of us know that when we use horary technique, the chart cast using > the number given must reflect the mind (through Moon). In other words, > we expect the person who gave us the number to have a " genuine urge " > to know the answer to his question. Consider the following two scenarios. > > Scenario-1: I am the astrologer. A person who is a disbeliever in > astrology CHALLENGES me openly, asking me to predict whether he will > have a child (assume he has been recently married). I have to offer a > prediction. (Assume this is happening in a live TV show.) > > Scenario-2: I am teaching astrology in an institute. A student in the > class respectfully observes that he is not convinced that Horary can > work and wants me to prove him WRONG by predicting whether he will > have a child (assume he has been recently married). > > There could be other scenarios such as the above, but the point is > that the " client " is unlikely to have a " genuine " desire to know (at > least in these examples) whether he will have a child. > > Will horary work in these cases? If it does not work (esp. in Scenario > - 1), my reputation will be at stake. Of course I could withdraw from > the challenge but it does not bring credibility to the system I practise. > > If astrology is believed (at least by its practitioners) to be a > science, how do you explain such cases? > > Regards, > Rangarajan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Dear Rangaraj The KP Rule, that the Moon should fully refer the question querried by the client, MUST be seriously studied, before tyhe astrologer jumps to give an answer to the querry. In my experience, with RPs the astrologer should be able to find out the matter which a consultant is going to ask, even before the question is proped up. Of course, the astrologer is know the time when the client is going to visit him. I have had fairly good sucess in this. One may not know the exact question, but one will know the house to which the querry is referred. It is difficult to answer hypothetical questions, because Astrology is not a Science which merely follows Rules/Guidelines only Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote: Dear Members,I have a delicate question. All of us know that when we use horary technique, the chart cast usingthe number given must reflect the mind (through Moon). In other words,we expect the person who gave us the number to have a "genuine urge"to know the answer to his question. Consider the following two scenarios.Scenario-1: I am the astrologer. A person who is a disbeliever inastrology CHALLENGES me openly, asking me to predict whether he willhave a child (assume he has been recently married). I have to offer aprediction. (Assume this is happening in a live TV show.)Scenario-2: I am teaching astrology in an institute. A student in theclass respectfully observes that he is not convinced that Horary canwork and wants me to prove him WRONG by predicting whether he willhave a child (assume he has been recently married).There could be other scenarios such as the above, but the point isthat the "client" is unlikely to have a "genuine" desire to know (atleast in these examples) whether he will have a child.Will horary work in these cases? If it does not work (esp. in Scenario- 1), my reputation will be at stake. Of course I could withdraw fromthe challenge but it does not bring credibility to the system I practise.If astrology is believed (at least by its practitioners) to be ascience, how do you explain such cases?Regards,Rangarajan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Dear Mr. Rangarajan, You have really raised a good issue. I am giving my opinion. Other esteemed members may vary with me. As far as horary is concern, as you know it is based on the etherial viberations in the universe. In other words, the question is asked only when such viberations are prevailing which are related with the issue. You must have observed that some times the KP numbers are given but they are never attended ( I have seen many such cases in my case where I have taken a number from an individual but could never attend it till date while few numbers are dealt immediatly or in near future). This shows that etherial viberations previal which are represented by the planetary configuration. That is why we take number in KP. Now refering to the senario 1--> if a man is challenging you for showing the efficacy of the Horary astrology, it will reflect in the chart that the question has not been asked with a sincere desire. The sub-lord of the 1-cusp will show the inclination/involvement of the quarrant with the querry asked. In your own experince you must have observed that when a quarrant approaches to you with a sincere desire that is very well reflected in the chart. The moon of course show the mind of qurrant but the 1-cusp sub-lord also shows the inclination and point of view of the quarrant towards the problem. This, I am saying out of my own littel experince regarding horary astrology. So, as a polished astrologer first of all it can be checked that, is the querry genuine or not, or, is quarrant really involved with the question he has asked or not. Same thing is applied to the senario-2 also. As the student is of astrology he can be demonstrated that his suspection is shown in the chart also. Many a times the influence/connection of sat / 12 H /12L etc with the lagna of the prasna chart show suspicious attitude. This is a humble experince I have shared here. Others may add their own and enlight me. with regards, Anurodh.Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote: Dear Members,I have a delicate question. All of us know that when we use horary technique, the chart cast usingthe number given must reflect the mind (through Moon). In other words,we expect the person who gave us the number to have a "genuine urge"to know the answer to his question. Consider the following two scenarios.Scenario-1: I am the astrologer. A person who is a disbeliever inastrology CHALLENGES me openly, asking me to predict whether he willhave a child (assume he has been recently married). I have to offer aprediction. (Assume this is happening in a live TV show.)Scenario-2: I am teaching astrology in an institute. A student in theclass respectfully observes that he is not convinced that Horary canwork and wants me to prove him WRONG by predicting whether he willhave a child (assume he has been recently married).There could be other scenarios such as the above, but the point isthat the "client" is unlikely to have a "genuine" desire to know (atleast in these examples) whether he will have a child.Will horary work in these cases? If it does not work (esp. in Scenario- 1), my reputation will be at stake. Of course I could withdraw fromthe challenge but it does not bring credibility to the system I practise.If astrology is believed (at least by its practitioners) to be ascience, how do you explain such cases?Regards,Rangarajan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Dear Anurodh, To stress what I raised in my posting on this topic: The two scenarios represent situations where the querant does not " sincerely " ask the question. In other words, Moon might not have connection to the matter. The question I asked in the posting is why Horary should NOT work in these situations. Regards, Rangarajan , Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1> wrote: > Dear Mr. Rangarajan, > > You have really raised a good issue. I am giving my opinion. Other esteemed members may vary with me. > > As far as horary is concern, as you know it is based on the etherial viberations in the universe. In other words, the question is asked only when such viberations are prevailing which are related with the issue. You must have observed that some times the KP numbers are given but they are never attended ( I have seen many such cases in my case where I have taken a number from an individual but could never attend it till date while few numbers are dealt immediatly or in near future). This shows that etherial viberations previal which are represented by the planetary configuration. > That is why we take number in KP. > > Now refering to the senario 1--> if a man is challenging you for showing the efficacy of the Horary astrology, it will reflect in the chart that the question has not been asked with a sincere desire. The sub-lord of the 1-cusp will show the inclination/involvement of the quarrant with the querry asked. > In your own experince you must have observed that when a quarrant approaches to you with a sincere desire that is very well reflected in the chart. The moon of course show the mind of qurrant but the 1-cusp sub-lord also shows the inclination and point of view of the quarrant towards the problem. > This, I am saying out of my own littel experince regarding horary astrology. So, as a polished astrologer first of all it can be checked that, is the querry genuine or not, or, is quarrant really involved with the question he has asked or not. > > Same thing is applied to the senario-2 also. As the student is of astrology he can be demonstrated that his suspection is shown in the chart also. Many a times the influence/connection of sat / 12 H /12L etc with the lagna of the prasna chart show suspicious attitude. > > This is a humble experince I have shared here. Others may add their own and enlight me. > > with regards, > Anurodh. > > Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga@m...> wrote: > > Dear Members, > I have a delicate question. > > All of us know that when we use horary technique, the chart cast using > the number given must reflect the mind (through Moon). In other words, > we expect the person who gave us the number to have a " genuine urge " > to know the answer to his question. Consider the following two scenarios. > > Scenario-1: I am the astrologer. A person who is a disbeliever in > astrology CHALLENGES me openly, asking me to predict whether he will > have a child (assume he has been recently married). I have to offer a > prediction. (Assume this is happening in a live TV show.) > > Scenario-2: I am teaching astrology in an institute. A student in the > class respectfully observes that he is not convinced that Horary can > work and wants me to prove him WRONG by predicting whether he will > have a child (assume he has been recently married). > > There could be other scenarios such as the above, but the point is > that the " client " is unlikely to have a " genuine " desire to know (at > least in these examples) whether he will have a child. > > Will horary work in these cases? If it does not work (esp. in Scenario > - 1), my reputation will be at stake. Of course I could withdraw from > the challenge but it does not bring credibility to the system I practise. > > If astrology is believed (at least by its practitioners) to be a > science, how do you explain such cases? > > Regards, > Rangarajan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Dear Anurodh Kumar, I entirely agree with you,K.P., also goes so far as to say that one should proceed with the analysis only after satisfying oneself that the Moon signifies the question or "reveals the mind"... K.S.K. always held that the Moon stands for "mathi" or the mind... With kind regards, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote: Dear Mr. Rangarajan, You have really raised a good issue. I am giving my opinion. Other esteemed members may vary with me. As far as horary is concern, as you know it is based on the etherial viberations in the universe. In other words, the question is asked only when such viberations are prevailing which are related with the issue. You must have observed that some times the KP numbers are given but they are never attended ( I have seen many such cases in my case where I have taken a number from an individual but could never attend it till date while few numbers are dealt immediatly or in near future). This shows that etherial viberations previal which are represented by the planetary configuration. That is why we take number in KP. Now refering to the senario 1--> if a man is challenging you for showing the efficacy of the Horary astrology, it will reflect in the chart that the question has not been asked with a sincere desire. The sub-lord of the 1-cusp will show the inclination/involvement of the quarrant with the querry asked. In your own experince you must have observed that when a quarrant approaches to you with a sincere desire that is very well reflected in the chart. The moon of course show the mind of qurrant but the 1-cusp sub-lord also shows the inclination and point of view of the quarrant towards the problem. This, I am saying out of my own littel experince regarding horary astrology. So, as a polished astrologer first of all it can be checked that, is the querry genuine or not, or, is quarrant really involved with the question he has asked or not. Same thing is applied to the senario-2 also. As the student is of astrology he can be demonstrated that his suspection is shown in the chart also. Many a times the influence/connection of sat / 12 H /12L etc with the lagna of the prasna chart show suspicious attitude. This is a humble experince I have shared here. Others may add their own and enlight me. with regards, Anurodh.Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote: Dear Members,I have a delicate question. All of us know that when we use horary technique, the chart cast usingthe number given must reflect the mind (through Moon). In other words,we expect the person who gave us the number to have a "genuine urge"to know the answer to his question. Consider the following two scenarios.Scenario-1: I am the astrologer. A person who is a disbeliever inastrology CHALLENGES me openly, asking me to predict whether he willhave a child (assume he has been recently married). I have to offer aprediction. (Assume this is happening in a live TV show.)Scenario-2: I am teaching astrology in an institute. A student in theclass respectfully observes that he is not convinced that Horary canwork and wants me to prove him WRONG by predicting whether he willhave a child (assume he has been recently married).There could be other scenarios such as the above, but the point isthat the "client" is unlikely to have a "genuine" desire to know (atleast in these examples) whether he will have a child.Will horary work in these cases? If it does not work (esp. in Scenario- 1), my reputation will be at stake. Of course I could withdraw fromthe challenge but it does not bring credibility to the system I practise.If astrology is believed (at least by its practitioners) to be ascience, how do you explain such cases?Regards,Rangarajan India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Dear Mr. Rangarajan, You have really raised a good issue. I am giving my opinion. Other esteemed members may vary with me. As far as horary is concern, as you know it is based on the etherial viberations in the universe. In other words, the question is asked only when such viberations are prevailing which are related with the issue. You must have observed that some times the KP numbers are given but they are never attended ( I have seen many such cases in my case where I have taken a number from an individual but could never attend it till date while few numbers are dealt immediatly or in near future). This shows that etherial viberations previal which are represented by the planetary configuration. That is why we take number in KP. Now refering to the senario 1--> if a man is challenging you for showing the efficacy of the Horary astrology, it will reflect in the chart that the question has not been asked with a sincere desire. The sub-lord of the 1-cusp will show the inclination/involvement of the quarrant with the querry asked. In your own experince you must have observed that when a quarrant approaches to you with a sincere desire that is very well reflected in the chart. The moon of course show the mind of qurrant but the 1-cusp sub-lord also shows the inclination and point of view of the quarrant towards the problem. This, I am saying out of my own littel experince regarding horary astrology. So, as a polished astrologer first of all it can be checked that, is the querry genuine or not, or, is quarrant really involved with the question he has asked or not. Same thing is applied to the senario-2 also. As the student is of astrology he can be demonstrated that his suspection is shown in the chart also. Many a times the influence/connection of sat / 12 H /12L etc with the lagna of the prasna chart show suspicious attitude. This is a humble experince I have shared here. Others may add their own and enlight me. with regards, Anurodh.Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote: Dear Members,I have a delicate question. All of us know that when we use horary technique, the chart cast usingthe number given must reflect the mind (through Moon). In other words,we expect the person who gave us the number to have a "genuine urge"to know the answer to his question. Consider the following two scenarios.Scenario-1: I am the astrologer. A person who is a disbeliever inastrology CHALLENGES me openly, asking me to predict whether he willhave a child (assume he has been recently married). I have to offer aprediction. (Assume this is happening in a live TV show.)Scenario-2: I am teaching astrology in an institute. A student in theclass respectfully observes that he is not convinced that Horary canwork and wants me to prove him WRONG by predicting whether he willhave a child (assume he has been recently married).There could be other scenarios such as the above, but the point isthat the "client" is unlikely to have a "genuine" desire to know (atleast in these examples) whether he will have a child.Will horary work in these cases? If it does not work (esp. in Scenario- 1), my reputation will be at stake. Of course I could withdraw fromthe challenge but it does not bring credibility to the system I practise.If astrology is believed (at least by its practitioners) to be ascience, how do you explain such cases?Regards,Rangarajan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Dear Anurodh, To stress what I raised in my posting on this topic: The two scenarios represent situations where the querant does not " sincerely " ask the question. In other words, Moon might not have connection to the matter. The question I asked in the posting is why Horary should NOT work in these situations. Regards, Rangarajan , Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1> wrote: > Dear Mr. Rangarajan, > > You have really raised a good issue. I am giving my opinion. Other esteemed members may vary with me. > > As far as horary is concern, as you know it is based on the etherial viberations in the universe. In other words, the question is asked only when such viberations are prevailing which are related with the issue. You must have observed that some times the KP numbers are given but they are never attended ( I have seen many such cases in my case where I have taken a number from an individual but could never attend it till date while few numbers are dealt immediatly or in near future). This shows that etherial viberations previal which are represented by the planetary configuration. > That is why we take number in KP. > > Now refering to the senario 1--> if a man is challenging you for showing the efficacy of the Horary astrology, it will reflect in the chart that the question has not been asked with a sincere desire. The sub-lord of the 1-cusp will show the inclination/involvement of the quarrant with the querry asked. > In your own experince you must have observed that when a quarrant approaches to you with a sincere desire that is very well reflected in the chart. The moon of course show the mind of qurrant but the 1-cusp sub-lord also shows the inclination and point of view of the quarrant towards the problem. > This, I am saying out of my own littel experince regarding horary astrology. So, as a polished astrologer first of all it can be checked that, is the querry genuine or not, or, is quarrant really involved with the question he has asked or not. > > Same thing is applied to the senario-2 also. As the student is of astrology he can be demonstrated that his suspection is shown in the chart also. Many a times the influence/connection of sat / 12 H /12L etc with the lagna of the prasna chart show suspicious attitude. > > This is a humble experince I have shared here. Others may add their own and enlight me. > > with regards, > Anurodh. > > Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga@m...> wrote: > > Dear Members, > I have a delicate question. > > All of us know that when we use horary technique, the chart cast using > the number given must reflect the mind (through Moon). In other words, > we expect the person who gave us the number to have a " genuine urge " > to know the answer to his question. Consider the following two scenarios. > > Scenario-1: I am the astrologer. A person who is a disbeliever in > astrology CHALLENGES me openly, asking me to predict whether he will > have a child (assume he has been recently married). I have to offer a > prediction. (Assume this is happening in a live TV show.) > > Scenario-2: I am teaching astrology in an institute. A student in the > class respectfully observes that he is not convinced that Horary can > work and wants me to prove him WRONG by predicting whether he will > have a child (assume he has been recently married). > > There could be other scenarios such as the above, but the point is > that the " client " is unlikely to have a " genuine " desire to know (at > least in these examples) whether he will have a child. > > Will horary work in these cases? If it does not work (esp. in Scenario > - 1), my reputation will be at stake. Of course I could withdraw from > the challenge but it does not bring credibility to the system I practise. > > If astrology is believed (at least by its practitioners) to be a > science, how do you explain such cases? > > Regards, > Rangarajan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2005 Report Share Posted April 25, 2005 Dear Anurodh Kumar, I entirely agree with you,K.P., also goes so far as to say that one should proceed with the analysis only after satisfying oneself that the Moon signifies the question or "reveals the mind"... K.S.K. always held that the Moon stands for "mathi" or the mind... With kind regards, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote: Dear Mr. Rangarajan, You have really raised a good issue. I am giving my opinion. Other esteemed members may vary with me. As far as horary is concern, as you know it is based on the etherial viberations in the universe. In other words, the question is asked only when such viberations are prevailing which are related with the issue. You must have observed that some times the KP numbers are given but they are never attended ( I have seen many such cases in my case where I have taken a number from an individual but could never attend it till date while few numbers are dealt immediatly or in near future). This shows that etherial viberations previal which are represented by the planetary configuration. That is why we take number in KP. Now refering to the senario 1--> if a man is challenging you for showing the efficacy of the Horary astrology, it will reflect in the chart that the question has not been asked with a sincere desire. The sub-lord of the 1-cusp will show the inclination/involvement of the quarrant with the querry asked. In your own experince you must have observed that when a quarrant approaches to you with a sincere desire that is very well reflected in the chart. The moon of course show the mind of qurrant but the 1-cusp sub-lord also shows the inclination and point of view of the quarrant towards the problem. This, I am saying out of my own littel experince regarding horary astrology. So, as a polished astrologer first of all it can be checked that, is the querry genuine or not, or, is quarrant really involved with the question he has asked or not. Same thing is applied to the senario-2 also. As the student is of astrology he can be demonstrated that his suspection is shown in the chart also. Many a times the influence/connection of sat / 12 H /12L etc with the lagna of the prasna chart show suspicious attitude. This is a humble experince I have shared here. Others may add their own and enlight me. with regards, Anurodh.Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote: Dear Members,I have a delicate question. All of us know that when we use horary technique, the chart cast usingthe number given must reflect the mind (through Moon). In other words,we expect the person who gave us the number to have a "genuine urge"to know the answer to his question. Consider the following two scenarios.Scenario-1: I am the astrologer. A person who is a disbeliever inastrology CHALLENGES me openly, asking me to predict whether he willhave a child (assume he has been recently married). I have to offer aprediction. (Assume this is happening in a live TV show.)Scenario-2: I am teaching astrology in an institute. A student in theclass respectfully observes that he is not convinced that Horary canwork and wants me to prove him WRONG by predicting whether he willhave a child (assume he has been recently married).There could be other scenarios such as the above, but the point isthat the "client" is unlikely to have a "genuine" desire to know (atleast in these examples) whether he will have a child.Will horary work in these cases? If it does not work (esp. in Scenario- 1), my reputation will be at stake. Of course I could withdraw fromthe challenge but it does not bring credibility to the system I practise.If astrology is believed (at least by its practitioners) to be ascience, how do you explain such cases?Regards,Rangarajan India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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