KP horary --11th cusp{ Inder, Abhay and list}

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Dear All,

It is correct what Inder has said. I have also noticed but would like to add that for what duration we are predicting. If the querry is for the period when the planet will remain retro , that is , for a short term period or any time specified by the native then the ans will be negative but if the 11 sub-lord is promising the good results that is positive but it is retro and the querry is for the term which may take place in future at any time then the furctification may take place in favo one the planets are on direct rout.

 

For example: In case of Abhay's querry the quarrant was intented to come to attent the merriage of brother. The ven was in the st of jup which will remain retro for atleast 2 months. Now if the merriage is going to be celeberated before this time then ans is of course negative but if the merriage is at some time when jup is direct then ans is positive.

 

This is my view. Esteemed members may add and correct me. This is just an observation.

 

Secondly I do not think that a horary question planatary position has something to do with the natal chart positions. Yes the same question may be divinated by the natal chart too rather the natal chart findings must conside with the horary findings but one must not try to corelate the positions of the horary chart and natal chart.

 

This observation has sure put a point of confirmation in case of birth time rectification where many a times the ruling planets position and motion (direct/retro) has concided with the actual natal postions.

 

Memebers are welcome to add to it...

 

regards,

Anurodh

Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote:

Dear Inder You might be correct. In the example given by me (KP no. 149), the 11th sub-lord (Venus) is the star of Retro. Planet (Jup.) & Jup. is Retro. in the Natal chart of querriest too. All members, Pls. give your opinion on what Inder is Saying. Inder wrote: Dear friends, The basic rule of KP horary is that if sublord of 11th cusp is in the star of a retro planet, the answer of the querry is in negative. Sometimes I am finding this to be not correct. I also saw that if that retro planet is also retro in the natal chart of the querriest, answer may come as positive. I am bit confused here. Do other members have ever noticed falure of this basic rule. Sh Sahni of hans group also mentioned that instead of seeing retro or direct motion one sholud consider the placements and cusp posion as per kp rules.

Better first dates. More second dates. Personals

[Guest guest]

Dear Anurodh Kumar,Abhey Godse et al,

I suggest you please go through old articles of Pt.K.R.Kar, in one of which he says that if the sub is retrograde then the sub-sub method should be depended upon,to give accurate results...and,simply because the sub is retrograde one shouldn't jump to the werong conclusions...a good K.P. astrologer should avoid haste,at all costs...

I am trying to locate the article,and as soon as I do,I shall let uall know...

With best wishes,

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote:

 

Dear All,

It is correct what Inder has said. I have also noticed but would like to add that for what duration we are predicting. If the querry is for the period when the planet will remain retro , that is , for a short term period or any time specified by the native then the ans will be negative but if the 11 sub-lord is promising the good results that is positive but it is retro and the querry is for the term which may take place in future at any time then the furctification may take place in favo one the planets are on direct rout.

 

For example: In case of Abhay's querry the quarrant was intented to come to attent the merriage of brother. The ven was in the st of jup which will remain retro for atleast 2 months. Now if the merriage is going to be celeberated before this time then ans is of course negative but if the merriage is at some time when jup is direct then ans is positive.

 

This is my view. Esteemed members may add and correct me. This is just an observation.

 

Secondly I do not think that a horary question planatary position has something to do with the natal chart positions. Yes the same question may be divinated by the natal chart too rather the natal chart findings must conside with the horary findings but one must not try to corelate the positions of the horary chart and natal chart.

 

This observation has sure put a point of confirmation in case of birth time rectification where many a times the ruling planets position and motion (direct/retro) has concided with the actual natal postions.

 

Memebers are welcome to add to it...

 

regards,

Anurodh

Abhay Godse <abhaygodse wrote:

Dear Inder You might be correct. In the example given by me (KP no. 149), the 11th sub-lord (Venus) is the star of Retro. Planet (Jup.) & Jup. is Retro. in the Natal chart of querriest too. All members, Pls. give your opinion on what Inder is Saying. Inder wrote: Dear friends, The basic rule of KP horary is that if sublord of 11th cusp is in the star of a retro planet, the answer of the querry is in negative. Sometimes I am finding this to be not correct. I also saw that if that retro planet is also retro in the natal chart of the querriest, answer may come as positive. I am bit confused here. Do other members have ever noticed falure of this basic rule. Sh Sahni of hans group also mentioned that instead of seeing retro or direct motion one sholud consider the placements and cusp posion as per kp rules.

 

 

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Dear Anurodh,Abhey,,

 

 

Before making any conclusion on the basis of only one or two

practical cases,

 

Firstly, could you refer Guruji KSK's original " Retrograde-Horary

chart " , KP Reader VI, Edition 1978, pp 146-147.

 

Secondly, you can read " Miracle of K.P. " by Dr. Bal Krishna Singh, in

KP Year Book 2003, pp 17-18, how the earlier issued transfer order

was not effective until the retro gate planet moved in direct motion.

applicable.

 

Thirdly, it's exiting to learn how the cricket match between India

and Sri Lanka for the finals of ICC Trophy, played on 29-09-2002 at

Sri-Lanka, could not be conclusive at any account because of

retrogate planets in " Cricket Match and the Game of Retro Planets " by

Vijay Kumar in KP Year Book 2003, pp 49-52, in accordance with the KP

golden rule --- if a planet signifies a result, the fructification of

that result get installed if the planet in question is in retrogade.

The same author also demonstrated in " Will I get Best Outgoing

Student Award " , KP Year Book 2004, pp 22-25, if the 11 th Sub-lord

falls in the star or sub of a retro planet, the fructification falls

out, however strong it may be.

 

Fourthly, " Child Birth Delayed due to Retrogation of a Planet " by R.

Gopal in KP Year Book 2005, pp 18-20 is also supporting KSK's

original rule.

 

Fifthly, without being able to mention exactly what Dr. Kar's

Retrogression theory says, how can one argue against KSK's original

rule? The theory explained by Prof. K. Balachandran in KP Year Book

2002, p 87 --- retrogate planets within 20 deg of Sun and in star of

Moon, a luminary like Sun, to be considered as direct.

 

Sixthly, is it not a really hair splitting to read Prof. Rajendra

Kumar's outright contradiction to to Dr. Kar's Retrogression theory,

i.e. The Sbl of the principle cusp if retrograde, or if deposited in

the star or sub of a planet that is retrograde, will negate the

result even though the rertograde planet is connected to Sun by the

way of star Lordship, or being within 30 degrees to the Sun; KP Year

Book 2005, p 52, " Inference from a Honest Retrospection " (self-

analysis of failed predictions).

 

Seventhly, it is worthy to note, a/ Alan Leo, " It is

important to remember that no question should be asked, nor Horary

figure cast, unless the mind is truly serious and quite anxious

concerning the matter upon which the information is sought. Other

wise, disappointment and erroneous judgment will certainly result " .

b/ Bamadeva Mohanty, KP Year Book 2002, p 49, " At the time of the

query, the querist gets confused in giving a number. "

 

Eighthly, KSK original is clear-cut for a Natal chart, " a planet in

direct motion or retrograde-- no difference " , KP Reader VI, p 145.

 

Finally, it is interesting to study Pemmaraju V. R. Rayudu's

research article " DAILY EVENTS CHECK WITH HORARY AND BIRTH CHART

in " The Times of Astrology " magazine Sept'99, New Delhi " with a

conclusion, " unless an event is promised broadly in the natal chart

the actual occurrence of the event may not materialize with the

transit of the planets in the Horary astrology " .

 

http://webpages.charter.net/rayudu/eventscheck.htm

 

Best regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

 

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

wrote:

> Dear Anurodh Kumar,Abhey Godse et al,

> I

suggest you please go through old articles of Pt.K.R.Kar, in one of

which he says that if the sub is retrograde then the sub-sub method

should be depended upon,to give accurate results...and,simply because

the sub is retrograde one shouldn't jump to the werong

conclusions...a good K.P. astrologer should avoid haste,at all

costs...

> I am

trying to locate the article,and as soon as I do,I shall let uall

know...

> With

best wishes,

> Yours

sincerely,

>

lyrastro1

> GOOD LUCK !

>

> Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1> wrote:

> Dear All,

> It is correct what Inder has said. I have also noticed but would

like to add that for what duration we are predicting. If the querry

is for the period when the planet will remain retro , that is , for a

short term period or any time specified by the native then the ans

will be negative but if the 11 sub-lord is promising the good results

that is positive but it is retro and the querry is for the term which

may take place in future at any time then the furctification may take

place in favo one the planets are on direct rout.

>

> For example: In case of Abhay's querry the quarrant was intented to

come to attent the merriage of brother. The ven was in the st of jup

which will remain retro for atleast 2 months. Now if the merriage is

going to be celeberated before this time then ans is of course

negative but if the merriage is at some time when jup is direct then

ans is positive.

>

> This is my view. Esteemed members may add and correct me. This is

just an observation.

>

> Secondly I do not think that a horary question planatary position

has something to do with the natal chart positions. Yes the same

question may be divinated by the natal chart too rather the natal

chart findings must conside with the horary findings but one must not

try to corelate the positions of the horary chart and natal chart.

>

> This observation has sure put a point of confirmation in case of

birth time rectification where many a times the ruling planets

position and motion (direct/retro) has concided with the actual natal

postions.

>

> Memebers are welcome to add to it...

>

> regards,

> Anurodh

>

> Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...> wrote:

> Dear Inder

> You might be correct. In the example given by me (KP no. 149), the

11th sub-lord (Venus) is the star of Retro. Planet (Jup.) & Jup. is

Retro. in the Natal chart of querriest too.

> All members, Pls. give your opinion on what Inder is Saying.

> Inder wrote:

> Dear friends,

> The basic rule of KP horary is that if sublord of 11th cusp is in

the

> star of a retro planet, the answer of the querry is in negative.

> Sometimes I am finding this to be not correct. I also saw that if

that

> retro planet is also retro in the natal chart of the querriest,

answer

> may come as positive.

> I am bit confused here.

> Do other members have ever noticed falure of this basic rule.

> Sh Sahni of hans group also mentioned that instead of seeing

> retro or direct motion one sholud consider the placements and cusp

> posion as per kp rules.

>

>

>

>

>

> Better first dates. More second dates. Personals

>

[Guest guest]

Dear tw,

Sorry for the change in the topic,Where will you get

the KP YEAR BOOK as mentioned in yoour references

Thanx

Regards & Best wishes

Dilip

 

 

 

--- tw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Anurodh,Abhey,,

 

 

Before making any conclusion on the basis of only one

or two

practical cases,

 

Firstly, could you refer Guruji KSK's original

" Retrograde-Horary

chart " , KP Reader VI, Edition 1978, pp 146-147.

 

Secondly, you can read " Miracle of K.P. " by Dr. Bal

Krishna Singh, in

KP Year Book 2003, pp 17-18, how the earlier issued

transfer order

was not effective until the retro gate planet moved in

direct motion.

applicable.

 

Thirdly, it's exiting to learn how the cricket match

between India

and Sri Lanka for the finals of ICC Trophy, played on

29-09-2002 at

Sri-Lanka, could not be conclusive at any account

because of

retrogate planets in " Cricket Match and the Game of

Retro Planets " by

Vijay Kumar in KP Year Book 2003, pp 49-52, in

accordance with the KP

golden rule --- if a planet signifies a result, the

fructification of

that result get installed if the planet in question is

in retrogade.

The same author also demonstrated in " Will I get Best

Outgoing

Student Award " , KP Year Book 2004, pp 22-25, if the 11

th Sub-lord

falls in the star or sub of a retro planet, the

fructification falls

out, however strong it may be.

 

Fourthly, " Child Birth Delayed due to Retrogation of a

Planet " by R.

Gopal in KP Year Book 2005, pp 18-20 is also

supporting KSK's

original rule.

 

Fifthly, without being able to mention exactly what

Dr. Kar's

Retrogression theory says, how can one argue against

KSK's original

rule? The theory explained by Prof. K. Balachandran in

KP Year Book

2002, p 87 --- retrogate planets within 20 deg of Sun

and in star of

Moon, a luminary like Sun, to be considered as direct.

 

Sixthly, is it not a really hair splitting to read

Prof. Rajendra

Kumar's outright contradiction to to Dr. Kar's

Retrogression theory,

i.e. The Sbl of the principle cusp if retrograde, or

if deposited in

the star or sub of a planet that is retrograde, will

negate the

result even though the rertograde planet is connected

to Sun by the

way of star Lordship, or being within 30 degrees to

the Sun; KP Year

Book 2005, p 52, " Inference from a Honest

Retrospection " (self-

analysis of failed predictions).

 

Seventhly, it is worthy to note, a/ Alan Leo, " It is

important to remember that no question should be

asked, nor Horary

figure cast, unless the mind is truly serious and

quite anxious

concerning the matter upon which the information is

sought. Other

wise, disappointment and erroneous judgment will

certainly result " .

b/ Bamadeva Mohanty, KP Year Book 2002, p 49, " At the

time of the

query, the querist gets confused in giving a number. "

 

Eighthly, KSK original is clear-cut for a Natal chart,

" a planet in

direct motion or retrograde-- no difference " , KP

Reader VI, p 145.

 

Finally, it is interesting to study Pemmaraju V. R.

Rayudu's

research article " DAILY EVENTS CHECK WITH HORARY AND

BIRTH CHART

in " The Times of Astrology " magazine Sept'99, New

Delhi " with a

conclusion, " unless an event is promised broadly in

the natal chart

the actual occurrence of the event may not materialize

with the

transit of the planets in the Horary astrology " .

 

http://webpages.charter.net/rayudu/eventscheck.htm

 

Best regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

 

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi

<lyrastro1>

wrote:

> Dear Anurodh Kumar,Abhey Godse et al,

>

I

suggest you please go through old articles of

Pt.K.R.Kar, in one of

which he says that if the sub is retrograde then the

sub-sub method

should be depended upon,to give accurate

results...and,simply because

the sub is retrograde one shouldn't jump to the werong

 

conclusions...a good K.P. astrologer should avoid

haste,at all

costs...

>

I am

trying to locate the article,and as soon as I do,I

shall let uall

know...

>

With

best wishes,

>

Yours

sincerely,

>

 

lyrastro1

> GOOD LUCK !

>

> Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1> wrote:

> Dear All,

> It is correct what Inder has said. I have also

noticed but would

like to add that for what duration we are predicting.

If the querry

is for the period when the planet will remain retro ,

that is , for a

short term period or any time specified by the native

then the ans

will be negative but if the 11 sub-lord is promising

the good results

that is positive but it is retro and the querry is for

the term which

may take place in future at any time then the

furctification may take

place in favo one the planets are on direct rout.

>

> For example: In case of Abhay's querry the quarrant

was intented to

come to attent the merriage of brother. The ven was in

the st of jup

which will remain retro for atleast 2 months. Now if

the merriage is

going to be celeberated before this time then ans is

of course

negative but if the merriage is at some time when jup

is direct then

ans is positive.

>

> This is my view. Esteemed members may add and

correct me. This is

just an observation.

>

> Secondly I do not think that a horary question

planatary position

has something to do with the natal chart positions.

Yes the same

question may be divinated by the natal chart too

rather the natal

chart findings must conside with the horary findings

but one must not

try to corelate the positions of the horary chart and

natal chart.

>

> This observation has sure put a point of

confirmation in case of

birth time rectification where many a times the ruling

planets

position and motion (direct/retro) has concided with

the actual natal

postions.

>

> Memebers are welcome to add to it...

>

> regards,

> Anurodh

>

> Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...> wrote:

> Dear Inder

> You might be correct. In the example given by me (KP

no. 149), the

11th sub-lord (Venus) is the star of Retro. Planet

(Jup.) & Jup. is

Retro. in the Natal chart of querriest too.

> All members, Pls. give your opinion on what Inder is

Saying.

> Inder wrote:

> Dear friends,

> The basic rule of KP horary is that if sublord of

11th cusp is in

the

> star of a retro planet, the answer of the querry is

in negative.

> Sometimes I am finding this to be not correct. I

also saw that if

that

> retro planet is also retro in the natal chart of the

querriest,

answer

> may come as positive.

> I am bit confused here.

> Do other members have ever noticed falure of this

basic rule.

> Sh Sahni of hans group also mentioned that

instead of seeing

> retro or direct motion one sholud consider the

placements and cusp

> posion as per kp rules.

>

>

>

>

>

> Better first dates. More second dates.

Personals

>

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Good luck.dilip ranade <dilipdsr wrote:

Dear tw,Sorry for the change in the topic,Where will you getthe KP YEAR BOOK as mentioned in yoour referencesThanxRegards & Best wishesDilip--- tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Anurodh,Abhey,,Before making any conclusion on the basis of only oneor two practical cases,Firstly, could you refer Guruji KSK's original"Retrograde-Horary chart", KP Reader VI, Edition 1978, pp 146-147.Secondly, you can read "Miracle of K.P." by Dr. BalKrishna Singh, in KP Year Book 2003, pp 17-18, how the earlier issuedtransfer order was not effective until the retro gate planet moved indirect motion. applicable.Thirdly, it's exiting to learn how the cricket matchbetween India and Sri Lanka for the finals of ICC Trophy, played

on29-09-2002 at Sri-Lanka, could not be conclusive at any accountbecause of retrogate planets in "Cricket Match and the Game ofRetro Planets" by Vijay Kumar in KP Year Book 2003, pp 49-52, inaccordance with the KP golden rule --- if a planet signifies a result, thefructification of that result get installed if the planet in question isin retrogade. The same author also demonstrated in "Will I get BestOutgoing Student Award", KP Year Book 2004, pp 22-25, if the 11th Sub-lord falls in the star or sub of a retro planet, thefructification falls out, however strong it may be. Fourthly, "Child Birth Delayed due to Retrogation of aPlanet" by R. Gopal in KP Year Book 2005, pp 18-20 is alsosupporting KSK's original rule.Fifthly, without being able to mention exactly whatDr. Kar's Retrogression theory says, how can one argue againstKSK's original rule? The theory explained

by Prof. K. Balachandran inKP Year Book 2002, p 87 --- retrogate planets within 20 deg of Sunand in star of Moon, a luminary like Sun, to be considered as direct.Sixthly, is it not a really hair splitting to readProf. Rajendra Kumar's outright contradiction to to Dr. Kar'sRetrogression theory, i.e. The Sbl of the principle cusp if retrograde, orif deposited in the star or sub of a planet that is retrograde, willnegate the result even though the rertograde planet is connectedto Sun by the way of star Lordship, or being within 30 degrees tothe Sun; KP Year Book 2005, p 52, "Inference from a HonestRetrospection" (self-analysis of failed predictions).Seventhly, it is worthy to note, a/ Alan Leo, "It isimportant to remember that no question should beasked, nor Horaryfigure cast, unless the mind is truly serious andquite anxiousconcerning the matter upon which the information

issought. Otherwise, disappointment and erroneous judgment willcertainly result".b/ Bamadeva Mohanty, KP Year Book 2002, p 49, "At thetime of the query, the querist gets confused in giving a number."Eighthly, KSK original is clear-cut for a Natal chart,"a planet in direct motion or retrograde-- no difference", KPReader VI, p 145.Finally, it is interesting to study Pemmaraju V. R.Rayudu's research article "DAILY EVENTS CHECK WITH HORARY ANDBIRTH CHART in "The Times of Astrology" magazine Sept'99, NewDelhi" with a conclusion, "unless an event is promised broadly inthe natal chart the actual occurrence of the event may not materializewith the transit of the planets in the Horary astrology".http://webpages.charter.net/rayudu/eventscheck.htmBest regards,tw--- In

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi<lyrastro1> wrote:> Dear Anurodh Kumar,Abhey Godse et al,> I suggest you please go through old articles ofPt.K.R.Kar, in one of which he says that if the sub is retrograde then thesub-sub method should be depended upon,to give accurateresults...and,simply because the sub is retrograde one shouldn't jump to the werongconclusions...a good K.P. astrologer should avoidhaste,at all

costs...> I am trying to locate the article,and as soon as I do,Ishall let uall know...> With best

wishes,> Yours sincerely,> lyrastro1>

GOOD LUCK !> > Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1> wrote:> Dear All,> It is correct what Inder has said. I have alsonoticed but would like to add that for what duration we are predicting.If the querry is for the period when the planet will remain retro ,that is , for a short term period or any time specified by the nativethen the ans will be negative but if the 11 sub-lord is promisingthe good results that is positive but it is retro and the querry is forthe term which may take place in future at any time then thefurctification may take place in favo one the planets are on direct rout.> > For example: In case of Abhay's querry the quarrantwas intented to come to attent the merriage of brother. The ven was inthe st of jup which will remain retro for atleast 2 months. Now ifthe merriage is going to be celeberated before this time then ans isof course

negative but if the merriage is at some time when jupis direct then ans is positive.> > This is my view. Esteemed members may add andcorrect me. This is just an observation.> > Secondly I do not think that a horary questionplanatary position has something to do with the natal chart positions.Yes the same question may be divinated by the natal chart toorather the natal chart findings must conside with the horary findingsbut one must not try to corelate the positions of the horary chart andnatal chart.> > This observation has sure put a point ofconfirmation in case of birth time rectification where many a times the rulingplanets position and motion (direct/retro) has concided withthe actual natal postions.> > Memebers are welcome to add to it...> > regards,> Anurodh> > Abhay Godse

<abhaygodse@e...> wrote:> Dear Inder > You might be correct. In the example given by me (KPno. 149), the 11th sub-lord (Venus) is the star of Retro. Planet(Jup.) & Jup. is Retro. in the Natal chart of querriest too. > All members, Pls. give your opinion on what Inder isSaying. > Inder wrote: > Dear friends, > The basic rule of KP horary is that if sublord of11th cusp is in the > star of a retro planet, the answer of the querry isin negative. > Sometimes I am finding this to be not correct. Ialso saw that if that > retro planet is also retro in the natal chart of thequerriest, answer > may come as positive. > I am bit confused here. > Do other members have ever noticed falure of thisbasic rule. > Sh Sahni of hans group also mentioned thatinstead of seeing > retro or direct motion one sholud consider

theplacements and cusp > posion as per kp rules. > > > > > > Better first dates. More second dates. Personals >

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, dilip ranade <dilipdsr> wrote:

> Dear tw,

> Sorry for the change in the topic,Where will you get

> the KP YEAR BOOK as mentioned in yoour references

> Thanx

> Regards & Best wishes

> Dilip

>

>

>

> --- tw853 <tw853> wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Anurodh,Abhey,,

>

>

> Before making any conclusion on the basis of only one

> or two

> practical cases,

>

> Firstly, could you refer Guruji KSK's original

> " Retrograde-Horary

> chart " , KP Reader VI, Edition 1978, pp 146-147.

>

> Secondly, you can read " Miracle of K.P. " by Dr. Bal

> Krishna Singh, in

> KP Year Book 2003, pp 17-18, how the earlier issued

> transfer order

> was not effective until the retro gate planet moved in

> direct motion.

> applicable.

>

> Thirdly, it's exiting to learn how the cricket match

> between India

> and Sri Lanka for the finals of ICC Trophy, played on

> 29-09-2002 at

> Sri-Lanka, could not be conclusive at any account

> because of

> retrogate planets in " Cricket Match and the Game of

> Retro Planets " by

> Vijay Kumar in KP Year Book 2003, pp 49-52, in

> accordance with the KP

> golden rule --- if a planet signifies a result, the

> fructification of

> that result get installed if the planet in question is

> in retrogade.

> The same author also demonstrated in " Will I get Best

> Outgoing

> Student Award " , KP Year Book 2004, pp 22-25, if the 11

> th Sub-lord

> falls in the star or sub of a retro planet, the

> fructification falls

> out, however strong it may be.

>

> Fourthly, " Child Birth Delayed due to Retrogation of a

> Planet " by R.

> Gopal in KP Year Book 2005, pp 18-20 is also

> supporting KSK's

> original rule.

>

> Fifthly, without being able to mention exactly what

> Dr. Kar's

> Retrogression theory says, how can one argue against

> KSK's original

> rule? The theory explained by Prof. K. Balachandran in

> KP Year Book

> 2002, p 87 --- retrogate planets within 20 deg of Sun

> and in star of

> Moon, a luminary like Sun, to be considered as direct.

>

> Sixthly, is it not a really hair splitting to read

> Prof. Rajendra

> Kumar's outright contradiction to to Dr. Kar's

> Retrogression theory,

> i.e. The Sbl of the principle cusp if retrograde, or

> if deposited in

> the star or sub of a planet that is retrograde, will

> negate the

> result even though the rertograde planet is connected

> to Sun by the

> way of star Lordship, or being within 30 degrees to

> the Sun; KP Year

> Book 2005, p 52, " Inference from a Honest

> Retrospection " (self-

> analysis of failed predictions).

>

> Seventhly, it is worthy to note, a/ Alan Leo, " It is

> important to remember that no question should be

> asked, nor Horary

> figure cast, unless the mind is truly serious and

> quite anxious

> concerning the matter upon which the information is

> sought. Other

> wise, disappointment and erroneous judgment will

> certainly result " .

> b/ Bamadeva Mohanty, KP Year Book 2002, p 49, " At the

> time of the

> query, the querist gets confused in giving a number. "

>

> Eighthly, KSK original is clear-cut for a Natal chart,

> " a planet in

> direct motion or retrograde-- no difference " , KP

> Reader VI, p 145.

>

> Finally, it is interesting to study Pemmaraju V. R.

> Rayudu's

> research article " DAILY EVENTS CHECK WITH HORARY AND

> BIRTH CHART

> in " The Times of Astrology " magazine Sept'99, New

> Delhi " with a

> conclusion, " unless an event is promised broadly in

> the natal chart

> the actual occurrence of the event may not materialize

> with the

> transit of the planets in the Horary astrology " .

>

> http://webpages.charter.net/rayudu/eventscheck.htm

>

> Best regards,

>

> tw

>

>

>

>

> , Yogesh Rao Lajmi

> <lyrastro1>

> wrote:

> > Dear Anurodh Kumar,Abhey Godse et al,

> >

> I

> suggest you please go through old articles of

> Pt.K.R.Kar, in one of

> which he says that if the sub is retrograde then the

> sub-sub method

> should be depended upon,to give accurate

> results...and,simply because

> the sub is retrograde one shouldn't jump to the werong

>

> conclusions...a good K.P. astrologer should avoid

> haste,at all

> costs...

> >

> I am

> trying to locate the article,and as soon as I do,I

> shall let uall

> know...

> >

> With

> best wishes,

> >

> Yours

> sincerely,

> >

>

> lyrastro1

> > GOOD LUCK !

> >

> > Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1> wrote:

> > Dear All,

> > It is correct what Inder has said. I have also

> noticed but would

> like to add that for what duration we are predicting.

> If the querry

> is for the period when the planet will remain retro ,

> that is , for a

> short term period or any time specified by the native

> then the ans

> will be negative but if the 11 sub-lord is promising

> the good results

> that is positive but it is retro and the querry is for

> the term which

> may take place in future at any time then the

> furctification may take

> place in favo one the planets are on direct rout.

> >

> > For example: In case of Abhay's querry the quarrant

> was intented to

> come to attent the merriage of brother. The ven was in

> the st of jup

> which will remain retro for atleast 2 months. Now if

> the merriage is

> going to be celeberated before this time then ans is

> of course

> negative but if the merriage is at some time when jup

> is direct then

> ans is positive.

> >

> > This is my view. Esteemed members may add and

> correct me. This is

> just an observation.

> >

> > Secondly I do not think that a horary question

> planatary position

> has something to do with the natal chart positions.

> Yes the same

> question may be divinated by the natal chart too

> rather the natal

> chart findings must conside with the horary findings

> but one must not

> try to corelate the positions of the horary chart and

> natal chart.

> >

> > This observation has sure put a point of

> confirmation in case of

> birth time rectification where many a times the ruling

> planets

> position and motion (direct/retro) has concided with

> the actual natal

> postions.

> >

> > Memebers are welcome to add to it...

> >

> > regards,

> > Anurodh

> >

> > Abhay Godse <abhaygodse@e...> wrote:

> > Dear Inder

> > You might be correct. In the example given by me (KP

> no. 149), the

> 11th sub-lord (Venus) is the star of Retro. Planet

> (Jup.) & Jup. is

> Retro. in the Natal chart of querriest too.

> > All members, Pls. give your opinion on what Inder is

> Saying.

> > Inder wrote:

> > Dear friends,

> > The basic rule of KP horary is that if sublord of

> 11th cusp is in

> the

> > star of a retro planet, the answer of the querry is

> in negative.

> > Sometimes I am finding this to be not correct. I

> also saw that if

> that

> > retro planet is also retro in the natal chart of the

> querriest,

> answer

> > may come as positive.

> > I am bit confused here.

> > Do other members have ever noticed falure of this

> basic rule.

> > Sh Sahni of hans group also mentioned that

> instead of seeing

> > retro or direct motion one sholud consider the

> placements and cusp

> > posion as per kp rules.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Better first dates. More second dates.

> Personals

> >