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I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same house as

their dispositor. But can someone please let me know whether

they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

dispositor is also a significator.

 

Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of houses

where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter is a

significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would Rahu

also be considered as significator for this house?

 

Thanks

 

Ron Gaunt

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Dear Ron,

 

I think you've already checked the same explanation about

signification of Rahu's depositor in KP Reader III, 1984, Part 2, p

124, Rahu & Ketu, and Nakshatra Chuntamani, pp 18-19 that Rahu

denotes the matters of the house or houses owned by depositor and the

house occupied by depositor, only when Rahu is neither conjoined

with, nor aspected by any planet. This condition (Uthrakalamrita) is

strictly applied by K. Sbramanium, i.e. not to take the depositor if

conjioning or aspecting planets are already taken.

 

Best regards,

 

tw

 

 

planet or planets or Kumba lagna about

, rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>

> I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same house as

> their dispositor. But can someone please let me know whether

> they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

> dispositor is also a significator.

>

> Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of houses

> where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter is a

> significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would Rahu

> also be considered as significator for this house?

>

> Thanks

>

> Ron Gaunt

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Dear tw,

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

Actually it was reading Nakshatra Chintamani that prompted the

question. On page 15 Table B only includes Rahu for houses of

ownership and tenancy of dispositor, whereas pages 18 and 19

shows Rahu being a significator for all the other conditions. ie

Rahu being aspected by Mars which owns 4, 11 & 7 so Rahu is said

to indicate these houses. But Table B does not show Rahu as

significator for 4 and 11. There are other similar omissions.

 

 

My KP 3rd reader is obviously a later version than yours as it is

a single book - not in 2 parts. It is the nineth edition Jan

2004.

Could you let me know what you are referring to from the

Contents List at the front of the book; so I can check your

reference.

 

Thanks

 

 

Ron Gaunt

 

 

 

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:03:37 -0000, you wrote:

 

>

>

>Dear Ron,

>

>I think you've already checked the same explanation about

>signification of Rahu's depositor in KP Reader III, 1984, Part 2, p

>124, Rahu & Ketu, and Nakshatra Chuntamani, pp 18-19 that Rahu

>denotes the matters of the house or houses owned by depositor and the

>house occupied by depositor, only when Rahu is neither conjoined

>with, nor aspected by any planet. This condition (Uthrakalamrita) is

>strictly applied by K. Sbramanium, i.e. not to take the depositor if

>conjioning or aspecting planets are already taken.

>

>Best regards,

>

>tw

>

>

>planet or planets or Kumba lagna about

> , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>>

>> I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same house as

>> their dispositor. But can someone please let me know whether

>> they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

>> dispositor is also a significator.

>>

>> Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of houses

>> where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter is a

>> significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would Rahu

>> also be considered as significator for this house?

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>> Ron Gaunt

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Ron,

 

1 I see the explanation is not easy to follow. The best way is to

start from p 18. Rahu indicates: 1)as agent of conjoined Moon, 7

owned by Moon and 2 occupied by Moon; 2) as agent of aspecting Mars,

4,11 owned by Mars and 7 occupied by Mars; 3)as agent of aspecting

Jupiter , 3,12 owned by Jupiter and 10 occupied by Jupiter; 4) Rahu

is in star Mercury, owner of 6,9 and occupant of 7, and Rahu occupies

2; (This signification is the usually shown in computer print-out,

i.e. in order of rank A-7; B-2; C-6,9: D--); 5) Rahu's depositor

Jupiter, ruler of 3,12 and occupant of 10.

2. Pl note, in p 19, " Rahu-Ketu as planet " , it's written as if 4th

step signifiaction of 7,6,9 houses is not taken because Rahu is in

conj and aspect with Moon, Mars and Jupiter. It should also be taken

even houses indicated by conj or aspt planets are already taken. In

fact it's taken in Tab C, p15. Another important point is, as

mentioned before, not to take houses indicated by depositor since

we've taken houses indicated by conj and aspt Moon, Mars & Jupiter

(which is also depositor, even if another planet other than Jupiter

not to take it as per K Subramanium quoting Uthrakalamrita, p 315, KP

Reader II, 1983).

 

In Reader III, Rahu & Ketu are the last portion under the heading

of " Behaviour of planets " before " How to judge whether a planet is a

benefic or a malefic " .

 

In Reader II, pl read pp 315-316, 320-323.

 

Best regards,

 

tw

 

P.S. here time to sleep after midnight.

 

 

 

, rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> Dear tw,

>

> Thanks for your reply.

>

> Actually it was reading Nakshatra Chintamani that prompted the

> question. On page 15 Table B only includes Rahu for houses of

> ownership and tenancy of dispositor, whereas pages 18 and 19

> shows Rahu being a significator for all the other conditions. ie

> Rahu being aspected by Mars which owns 4, 11 & 7 so Rahu is said

> to indicate these houses. But Table B does not show Rahu as

> significator for 4 and 11. There are other similar omissions.

>

>

> My KP 3rd reader is obviously a later version than yours as it is

> a single book - not in 2 parts. It is the nineth edition Jan

> 2004.

> Could you let me know what you are referring to from the

> Contents List at the front of the book; so I can check your

> reference.

>

> Thanks

>

>

> Ron Gaunt

>

>

>

> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:03:37 -0000, you wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >Dear Ron,

> >

> >I think you've already checked the same explanation about

> >signification of Rahu's depositor in KP Reader III, 1984, Part 2,

p

> >124, Rahu & Ketu, and Nakshatra Chuntamani, pp 18-19 that Rahu

> >denotes the matters of the house or houses owned by depositor and

the

> >house occupied by depositor, only when Rahu is neither conjoined

> >with, nor aspected by any planet. This condition (Uthrakalamrita)

is

> >strictly applied by K. Sbramanium, i.e. not to take the depositor

if

> >conjioning or aspecting planets are already taken.

> >

> >Best regards,

> >

> >tw

> >

> >

> >planet or planets or Kumba lagna about

> > , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> >>

> >> I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same house as

> >> their dispositor. But can someone please let me know whether

> >> they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

> >> dispositor is also a significator.

> >>

> >> Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of houses

> >> where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter is a

> >> significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would Rahu

> >> also be considered as significator for this house?

> >>

> >> Thanks

> >>

> >> Ron Gaunt

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Rongaunt

 

The rules for Rahu/Ketu are clear cut. They ACT as agents of

 

1. the planet withwhich they are conjoined

2. Thier Star Lord

3. Planets which Aspect Them

4. The Lord of the Sign in which they reside

 

This in order of importance.

 

Naturally if Rahu is agent of Jupiter, he will signify whatever Jupiter

 

signifies.

 

 

--- rongaunt <rongaunt wrote:

>

>

> I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same house as

> their dispositor. But can someone please let me know whether

> they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

> dispositor is also a significator.

>

> Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of houses

> where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter is a

> significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would Rahu

> also be considered as significator for this house?

>

> Thanks

>

> Ron Gaunt

>

>

>

>

>

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-Dear friends,

 

When we talk about Rahu/Ketu being representing planets they are

conjoined with,can some one clarify .Should Rahu/Ketu and the

planet have the same star-lord,same cusp. Sometimes a cusp separates

planets though they may be in the same rashi.Viewed in general what

is the maximum longitudinal separation.Source references appreciated

 

Regards,

Satish

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- In , anant raichur <anant_1608>

wrote:

> Dear Rongaunt

>

> The rules for Rahu/Ketu are clear cut. They ACT as agents of

>

> 1. the planet withwhich they are conjoined

> 2. Thier Star Lord

> 3. Planets which Aspect Them

> 4. The Lord of the Sign in which they reside

>

> This in order of importance.

>

> Naturally if Rahu is agent of Jupiter, he will signify whatever

Jupiter

>

> signifies.

>

>

> --- rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same house as

> > their dispositor. But can someone please let me know whether

> > they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

> > dispositor is also a significator.

> >

> > Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of houses

> > where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter is a

> > significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would Rahu

> > also be considered as significator for this house?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Ron Gaunt

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear KP,

 

Thanks for your explanation. What I am really getting at is

that in Horoscope 1 in Nashtra Chintamani is that Rahu is in

Pisces - hence Rahu proxies for Jupiter. If you go to Table B

on page 15, Jupiter is shown as significator of houses 1 and 10.

But Rahu is NOT shown as a significator for these houses. My

understanding has always been that as proxie Rahu will always be

shown with its dispositor Lord - in this case Jupiter and

therefore should be shown as significator for houses 1 and 10.

This is also confirmed by Anant in earlier reply.

 

I was simply wondering whether there was a subtlety that I had

missed. ie: could it be that in this case as Jupiter is closely

conjunct Moon, and as this is the primary Rahu relationship then

Rahu is not considered other than in its role as Lord and

occupant of a house?

 

What I am asking is why is Rahu not shown as significator along

with it dispositor in houses 1 & 10?

 

Ron Gaunt

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:54:48 -0000, you wrote:

 

>

>

>Dear Ron,

>

>1 I see the explanation is not easy to follow. The best way is to

>start from p 18. Rahu indicates: 1)as agent of conjoined Moon, 7

>owned by Moon and 2 occupied by Moon; 2) as agent of aspecting Mars,

>4,11 owned by Mars and 7 occupied by Mars; 3)as agent of aspecting

>Jupiter , 3,12 owned by Jupiter and 10 occupied by Jupiter; 4) Rahu

>is in star Mercury, owner of 6,9 and occupant of 7, and Rahu occupies

>2; (This signification is the usually shown in computer print-out,

>i.e. in order of rank A-7; B-2; C-6,9: D--); 5) Rahu's depositor

>Jupiter, ruler of 3,12 and occupant of 10.

>2. Pl note, in p 19, " Rahu-Ketu as planet " , it's written as if 4th

>step signifiaction of 7,6,9 houses is not taken because Rahu is in

>conj and aspect with Moon, Mars and Jupiter. It should also be taken

>even houses indicated by conj or aspt planets are already taken. In

>fact it's taken in Tab C, p15. Another important point is, as

>mentioned before, not to take houses indicated by depositor since

>we've taken houses indicated by conj and aspt Moon, Mars & Jupiter

>(which is also depositor, even if another planet other than Jupiter

>not to take it as per K Subramanium quoting Uthrakalamrita, p 315, KP

>Reader II, 1983).

>

>In Reader III, Rahu & Ketu are the last portion under the heading

>of " Behaviour of planets " before " How to judge whether a planet is a

>benefic or a malefic " .

>

>In Reader II, pl read pp 315-316, 320-323.

>

>Best regards,

>

>tw

>

>P.S. here time to sleep after midnight.

>

>

>

> , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>> Dear tw,

>>

>> Thanks for your reply.

>>

>> Actually it was reading Nakshatra Chintamani that prompted the

>> question. On page 15 Table B only includes Rahu for houses of

>> ownership and tenancy of dispositor, whereas pages 18 and 19

>> shows Rahu being a significator for all the other conditions. ie

>> Rahu being aspected by Mars which owns 4, 11 & 7 so Rahu is said

>> to indicate these houses. But Table B does not show Rahu as

>> significator for 4 and 11. There are other similar omissions.

>>

>>

>> My KP 3rd reader is obviously a later version than yours as it is

>> a single book - not in 2 parts. It is the nineth edition Jan

>> 2004.

>> Could you let me know what you are referring to from the

>> Contents List at the front of the book; so I can check your

>> reference.

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>>

>> Ron Gaunt

>>

>>

>>

>> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:03:37 -0000, you wrote:

>>

>> >

>> >

>> >Dear Ron,

>> >

>> >I think you've already checked the same explanation about

>> >signification of Rahu's depositor in KP Reader III, 1984, Part 2,

>p

>> >124, Rahu & Ketu, and Nakshatra Chuntamani, pp 18-19 that Rahu

>> >denotes the matters of the house or houses owned by depositor and

>the

>> >house occupied by depositor, only when Rahu is neither conjoined

>> >with, nor aspected by any planet. This condition (Uthrakalamrita)

>is

>> >strictly applied by K. Sbramanium, i.e. not to take the depositor

>if

>> >conjioning or aspecting planets are already taken.

>> >

>> >Best regards,

>> >

>> >tw

>> >

>> >

>> >planet or planets or Kumba lagna about

>> > , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>> >>

>> >> I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same house as

>> >> their dispositor. But can someone please let me know whether

>> >> they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

>> >> dispositor is also a significator.

>> >>

>> >> Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of houses

>> >> where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter is a

>> >> significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would Rahu

>> >> also be considered as significator for this house?

>> >>

>> >> Thanks

>> >>

>> >> Ron Gaunt

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

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Dear Anant,

 

Yes that was my understanding. It was just that a book shows it

somewhat different. See my reply to tw.

 

All the best

 

Ron Gaunt

 

 

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:16:54 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

 

>

>Dear Rongaunt

>

>The rules for Rahu/Ketu are clear cut. They ACT as agents of

>

>1. the planet withwhich they are conjoined

>2. Thier Star Lord

>3. Planets which Aspect Them

>4. The Lord of the Sign in which they reside

>

>This in order of importance.

>

>Naturally if Rahu is agent of Jupiter, he will signify whatever Jupiter

>

>signifies.

>

>

>--- rongaunt <rongaunt wrote:

>>

>>

>> I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same house as

>> their dispositor. But can someone please let me know whether

>> they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

>> dispositor is also a significator.

>>

>> Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of houses

>> where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter is a

>> significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would Rahu

>> also be considered as significator for this house?

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>> Ron Gaunt

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Dear Mr.Raichur,

 

Suppose Rahu is the significator of 11 by being in the constellation

of Jupiter in 11; whereas Jupiter is the significator of 12 being in

the constellation of a plant in 12. Which way Rahu behave. Will it

signify 11 or 12.

 

Please clarify.

 

Thanks

Raman

, anant raichur <anant_1608>

wrote:

> Dear Rongaunt

>

> The rules for Rahu/Ketu are clear cut. They ACT as agents of

>

> 1. the planet withwhich they are conjoined

> 2. Thier Star Lord

> 3. Planets which Aspect Them

> 4. The Lord of the Sign in which they reside

>

> This in order of importance.

>

> Naturally if Rahu is agent of Jupiter, he will signify whatever

Jupiter

>

> signifies.

>

>

> --- rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same house as

> > their dispositor. But can someone please let me know whether

> > they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

> > dispositor is also a significator.

> >

> > Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of houses

> > where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter is a

> > significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would Rahu

> > also be considered as significator for this house?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Ron Gaunt

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Rongaunt,

I think what so ever Jupiter signfies or likely to give will be

signfied by Rahu in this case.

So planets in the stars of rahu will give Jupiter's results, and

Moon's result if Moon is also associated with Jupiter.

Inder

 

, rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>

> I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same house as

> their dispositor. But can someone please let me know whether

> they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

> dispositor is also a significator.

>

> Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of houses

> where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter is a

> significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would Rahu

> also be considered as significator for this house?

>

> Thanks

>

> Ron Gaunt

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Dear Raman

1. As per rules it should signify both 11 and 12

houses as top priority.

With regards & best wishes

Ranade

 

 

 

--- ramsy37 <ramsy37 wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr.Raichur,

 

Suppose Rahu is the significator of 11 by being in the

constellation

of Jupiter in 11; whereas Jupiter is the significator

of 12 being in

the constellation of a plant in 12. Which way Rahu

behave. Will it

signify 11 or 12.

 

Please clarify.

 

Thanks

Raman

, anant raichur

<anant_1608>

wrote:

> Dear Rongaunt

>

> The rules for Rahu/Ketu are clear cut. They ACT as

agents of

>

> 1. the planet withwhich they are conjoined

> 2. Thier Star Lord

> 3. Planets which Aspect Them

> 4. The Lord of the Sign in which they reside

>

> This in order of importance.

>

> Naturally if Rahu is agent of Jupiter, he will

signify whatever

Jupiter

>

> signifies.

>

>

> --- rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the

same house as

> > their dispositor. But can someone please let me

know whether

> > they are also the significators of OTHER houses

where that

> > dispositor is also a significator.

> >

> > Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a

significator of houses

> > where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say

Jupiter is a

> > significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie

Cancer, would Rahu

> > also be considered as significator for this house?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Ron Gaunt

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Conjoined means within 10 deg of each other,if one uses Western Aspects

 

If one uses Hindoo aspects, then it means being in same SIGN, not necessarily

in same house

 

--- rsatish1942 <rsatish1942 wrote:

>

>

>

> -Dear friends,

>

> When we talk about Rahu/Ketu being representing planets they are

> conjoined with,can some one clarify .Should Rahu/Ketu and the

> planet have the same star-lord,same cusp. Sometimes a cusp separates

> planets though they may be in the same rashi.Viewed in general what

> is the maximum longitudinal separation.Source references appreciated

>

> Regards,

> Satish

>

>

>

-- In , anant raichur <anant_1608>

> wrote:

> > Dear Rongaunt

> >

> > The rules for Rahu/Ketu are clear cut. They ACT as agents of

> >

> > 1. the planet withwhich they are conjoined

> > 2. Thier Star Lord

> > 3. Planets which Aspect Them

> > 4. The Lord of the Sign in which they reside

> >

> > This in order of importance.

> >

> > Naturally if Rahu is agent of Jupiter, he will signify whatever

> Jupiter

> >

> > signifies.

> >

> >

> > --- rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same house as

> > > their dispositor. But can someone please let me know whether

> > > they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

> > > dispositor is also a significator.

> > >

> > > Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of houses

> > > where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter is a

> > > significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would Rahu

> > > also be considered as significator for this house?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Ron Gaunt

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Ron Gaunt

 

Rahu will act as agent in all cases. In fact I made aspecial sw in which the

 

significators were shown in this way. It is not yet certain that Rahu will

 

not act as agent for Lord of House where he is situated, if He is consjunct

 

with a Planet and acts as its Agent. This will need special research, to

determine wether acts as agent for one planet only or more than one, as

 

per the conditions specified

 

 

--- rongaunt <rongaunt wrote:

>

> Dear Anant,

>

> Yes that was my understanding. It was just that a book shows it

> somewhat different. See my reply to tw.

>

> All the best

>

> Ron Gaunt

>

>

> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:16:54 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

>

> >

> >Dear Rongaunt

> >

> >The rules for Rahu/Ketu are clear cut. They ACT as agents of

> >

> >1. the planet withwhich they are conjoined

> >2. Thier Star Lord

> >3. Planets which Aspect Them

> >4. The Lord of the Sign in which they reside

> >

> >This in order of importance.

> >

> >Naturally if Rahu is agent of Jupiter, he will signify whatever Jupiter

> >

> >signifies.

> >

> >

> >--- rongaunt <rongaunt wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >> I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same house as

> >> their dispositor. But can someone please let me know whether

> >> they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

> >> dispositor is also a significator.

> >>

> >> Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of houses

> >> where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter is a

> >> significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would Rahu

> >> also be considered as significator for this house?

> >>

> >> Thanks

> >>

> >> Ron Gaunt

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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Dear Raman

 

Rahu acts as Agent for Jupiter. So whatever Jupiter signifies, Rahu will

signify

As Jupiter signifies 11 and 12 Rahu as the agent will signify both houses

 

This is my personal view

 

--- ramsy37 <ramsy37 wrote:

>

>

>

> Dear Mr.Raichur,

>

> Suppose Rahu is the significator of 11 by being in the constellation

> of Jupiter in 11; whereas Jupiter is the significator of 12 being in

> the constellation of a plant in 12. Which way Rahu behave. Will it

> signify 11 or 12.

>

> Please clarify.

>

> Thanks

> Raman

> , anant raichur <anant_1608>

> wrote:

> > Dear Rongaunt

> >

> > The rules for Rahu/Ketu are clear cut. They ACT as agents of

> >

> > 1. the planet withwhich they are conjoined

> > 2. Thier Star Lord

> > 3. Planets which Aspect Them

> > 4. The Lord of the Sign in which they reside

> >

> > This in order of importance.

> >

> > Naturally if Rahu is agent of Jupiter, he will signify whatever

> Jupiter

> >

> > signifies.

> >

> >

> > --- rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same house as

> > > their dispositor. But can someone please let me know whether

> > > they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

> > > dispositor is also a significator.

> > >

> > > Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of houses

> > > where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter is a

> > > significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would Rahu

> > > also be considered as significator for this house?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Ron Gaunt

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear raichjurji and learned members

 

I would like to discuss a recent horary chart related to love and marriage to explain the doubts on rahu and kethu.

 

Experts and learned K.P members kindly advise me wherever it is required and give me your reply to me.

 

Rahu in 11 in Aries conjoined with moon lord of 3 & 4

 

Rahu being in Aries represents mars position as mars in 8 and lord of 7 and 12.

Rahu represents 8,12,7,11,3 and 4 and rahu in star of kethu which is in 5 and kethu represents venus being in sign of venus.5,6 and 12 and venus in 9

 

rahu though says 5,11,3 and 4 in the sub of venus which decides the strength,value and destination of rahu.Am I right?.

 

So rahu in the sub of venus......occupying 9 and venus is lord of 1 and 6.

venus is in star of moon in 11 conj with rahu.So the predominant result is with moon for rahu.Rahu and kethu as a node dont have any fixed signs or plans.

other five planets will make to them to do or lose to them as per karma.

 

Thats why rahu and kethu are called karmic planets.controller of karma.

 

Rahu conj with moon and in the sub of a planet which is in star of moon.

 

of course moon and rahu in 11th and moon sub lord of 11.

 

So Rahu's full stregnth and way is with moon and rahu will do the instructions of moon in the decided period.....DASA,BHUKTHI AND ANTHRA.

 

Am I right,Raichurji?.Kindly give your reply on this.

 

With regards

Balaji Gopalakrishnan

anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote:

Dear RamanRahu acts as Agent for Jupiter. So whatever Jupiter signifies, Rahu willsignifyAs Jupiter signifies 11 and 12 Rahu as the agent will signify both housesThis is my personal view--- ramsy37 <ramsy37 wrote:> > > > Dear Mr.Raichur,> > Suppose Rahu is the significator of 11 by being in the constellation > of Jupiter in 11; whereas Jupiter is the significator of 12 being in > the constellation of a plant in 12. Which way Rahu behave. Will it > signify 11 or 12.> > Please clarify.> > Thanks> Raman > , anant raichur <anant_1608> > wrote:> > Dear Rongaunt> > > > The rules for Rahu/Ketu are clear cut. They ACT as agents of > >

> > 1. the planet withwhich they are conjoined> > 2. Thier Star Lord> > 3. Planets which Aspect Them> > 4. The Lord of the Sign in which they reside> > > > This in order of importance.> > > > Naturally if Rahu is agent of Jupiter, he will signify whatever > Jupiter> > > > signifies. > > > > > > --- rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same house as> > > their dispositor. But can someone please let me know whether> > > they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that> > > dispositor is also a significator.> > > > > > Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of houses> > > where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case

say Jupiter is a> > > significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would Rahu> > > also be considered as significator for this house?> > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > Ron Gaunt> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Dear Raman,

If Rahu is in star of Jupiter then Rahu will give the results of

11th house[where Jup is posted] and the houses owned by Jpiter

particularly if those are vacant.

If Jup is in star of Venus in 12th, then in Rahu period you can

expect reslts of 11th Jup +houses owned by Jup.You can not get

result of Venus in 12th. This is very certain.

Sh Raichur may kindly consider.

Inder

 

, anant raichur <anant_1608>

wrote:

> Dear Raman

>

> Rahu acts as Agent for Jupiter. So whatever Jupiter signifies,

Rahu will

> signify

> As Jupiter signifies 11 and 12 Rahu as the agent will signify both

houses

>

> This is my personal view

>

> --- ramsy37 <ramsy37> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr.Raichur,

> >

> > Suppose Rahu is the significator of 11 by being in the

constellation

> > of Jupiter in 11; whereas Jupiter is the significator of 12

being in

> > the constellation of a plant in 12. Which way Rahu behave.

Will it

> > signify 11 or 12.

> >

> > Please clarify.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Raman

> > , anant raichur

<anant_1608>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Rongaunt

> > >

> > > The rules for Rahu/Ketu are clear cut. They ACT as agents of

> > >

> > > 1. the planet withwhich they are conjoined

> > > 2. Thier Star Lord

> > > 3. Planets which Aspect Them

> > > 4. The Lord of the Sign in which they reside

> > >

> > > This in order of importance.

> > >

> > > Naturally if Rahu is agent of Jupiter, he will signify

whatever

> > Jupiter

> > >

> > > signifies.

> > >

> > >

> > > --- rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same

house as

> > > > their dispositor. But can someone please let me know

whether

> > > > they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

> > > > dispositor is also a significator.

> > > >

> > > > Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of

houses

> > > > where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter is

a

> > > > significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would

Rahu

> > > > also be considered as significator for this house?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > > Ron Gaunt

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Members,

Quite a few of confusions arise,in my humble opinion,because many K.P. students having imbibed Traditional Astrology,over many years of studying Astrology,cannot,and sometimes,I suspect,find it difficult to,or,are not willing to, whole-heartedly to K.P., principles...and constantly continue "picking holes in K.P. Astrology",and I'm sorry to say,without properly understanding both systems,I daresay...mostly due to their inappropriate application...I submit,in a few cases,and then generalise it and say... "this rule does not work ..." ! ?

This is grossly unfair to K.P., as well as Traditional Systems,I submit...

"Years of experience",in my humble opinion, does have its weightage, but that alone cannot be used to justify the inappropriate application,of Principles,be it of the Traditional or the K.P.,system...and then blaming the "rules"...or even the system...

With regards,

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !

Inder <indervohra2001 wrote:

Dear Raman,If Rahu is in star of Jupiter then Rahu will give the results of 11th house[where Jup is posted] and the houses owned by Jpiter particularly if those are vacant.If Jup is in star of Venus in 12th, then in Rahu period you can expect reslts of 11th Jup +houses owned by Jup.You can not get result of Venus in 12th. This is very certain.Sh Raichur may kindly consider.Inder , anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote:> Dear Raman> > Rahu acts as Agent for Jupiter. So whatever Jupiter signifies, Rahu will> signify> As Jupiter signifies 11 and 12 Rahu as the agent will signify both houses> > This is my personal view> > --- ramsy37 <ramsy37> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear

Mr.Raichur,> > > > Suppose Rahu is the significator of 11 by being in the constellation > > of Jupiter in 11; whereas Jupiter is the significator of 12 being in > > the constellation of a plant in 12. Which way Rahu behave. Will it > > signify 11 or 12.> > > > Please clarify.> > > > Thanks> > Raman > > , anant raichur <anant_1608> > > wrote:> > > Dear Rongaunt> > > > > > The rules for Rahu/Ketu are clear cut. They ACT as agents of > > > > > > 1. the planet withwhich they are conjoined> > > 2. Thier Star Lord> > > 3. Planets which Aspect Them> > > 4. The Lord of the Sign in which they reside> > > > > > This in order of importance.> > > > > >

Naturally if Rahu is agent of Jupiter, he will signify whatever > > Jupiter> > > > > > signifies. > > > > > > > > > --- rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same house as> > > > their dispositor. But can someone please let me know whether> > > > they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that> > > > dispositor is also a significator.> > > > > > > > Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of houses> > > > where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter is a> > > > significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would Rahu> > > > also be considered as significator for this

house?> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > > > Ron Gaunt> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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I endorse the statements of Yogesh Rao. Let us apply the KP rules, or

principles

 

in sincerity. If we find that in a particular case the rule, seemingly, does

not

 

appear,then let us analyse the case ans find out why it does not apply to that

 

particular case. Objective investigation is neccessary. Only when we have

 

significant cases where the rule does not apply, should we think of formulating

 

an exception to rule, instead of 'decrying' the rule

 

good luck

--- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

 

> Dear Members,

> Quite a few of confusions arise,in my humble

> opinion,because many K.P. students having imbibed Traditional Astrology,over

> many years of studying Astrology,cannot,and sometimes,I suspect,find it

> difficult to,or,are not willing to, whole-heartedly to K.P.,

> principles...and constantly continue " picking holes in K.P. Astrology " ,and

> I'm sorry to say,without properly understanding both systems,I

> daresay...mostly due to their inappropriate application...I submit,in a few

> cases,and then generalise it and say... " this rule does not work ... " ! ?

> This is grossly unfair to K.P., as well as Traditional

> Systems,I submit...

> " Years of experience " ,in my humble opinion, does have

> its weightage, but that alone cannot be used to justify the inappropriate

> application,of Principles,be it of the Traditional or the K.P.,system...and

> then blaming the " rules " ...or even the system...

> With regards,

> Yours sincerely,

> lyrastro1

> GOOD LUCK !

>

>

> Inder <indervohra2001 wrote:

>

> Dear Raman,

> If Rahu is in star of Jupiter then Rahu will give the results of

> 11th house[where Jup is posted] and the houses owned by Jpiter

> particularly if those are vacant.

> If Jup is in star of Venus in 12th, then in Rahu period you can

> expect reslts of 11th Jup +houses owned by Jup.You can not get

> result of Venus in 12th. This is very certain.

> Sh Raichur may kindly consider.

> Inder

>

> , anant raichur <anant_1608>

> wrote:

> > Dear Raman

> >

> > Rahu acts as Agent for Jupiter. So whatever Jupiter signifies,

> Rahu will

> > signify

> > As Jupiter signifies 11 and 12 Rahu as the agent will signify both

> houses

> >

> > This is my personal view

> >

> > --- ramsy37 <ramsy37> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mr.Raichur,

> > >

> > > Suppose Rahu is the significator of 11 by being in the

> constellation

> > > of Jupiter in 11; whereas Jupiter is the significator of 12

> being in

> > > the constellation of a plant in 12. Which way Rahu behave.

> Will it

> > > signify 11 or 12.

> > >

> > > Please clarify.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Raman

> > > , anant raichur

> <anant_1608>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Rongaunt

> > > >

> > > > The rules for Rahu/Ketu are clear cut. They ACT as agents of

> > > >

> > > > 1. the planet withwhich they are conjoined

> > > > 2. Thier Star Lord

> > > > 3. Planets which Aspect Them

> > > > 4. The Lord of the Sign in which they reside

> > > >

> > > > This in order of importance.

> > > >

> > > > Naturally if Rahu is agent of Jupiter, he will signify

> whatever

> > > Jupiter

> > > >

> > > > signifies.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same

> house as

> > > > > their dispositor. But can someone please let me know

> whether

> > > > > they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

> > > > > dispositor is also a significator.

> > > > >

> > > > > Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of

> houses

> > > > > where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter is

> a

> > > > > significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer, would

> Rahu

> > > > > also be considered as significator for this house?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > Ron Gaunt

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Dear Lajmi ji,

 

Please accept my sincere appology for using inappropraiet words.

However the application of the result of sublord for Rahu and Kethu

as starlord can not be found in any example in KP Readers.

 

Best regards,

 

tw

 

 

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

wrote:

> Dear Members,

> Quite a few of confusions arise,in my humble

opinion,because many K.P. students having imbibed Traditional

Astrology,over many years of studying Astrology,cannot,and

sometimes,I suspect,find it difficult to,or,are not willing

to, whole-heartedly to K.P., principles...and constantly

continue " picking holes in K.P. Astrology " ,and I'm sorry to

say,without properly understanding both systems,I daresay...mostly

due to their inappropriate application...I submit,in a few cases,and

then generalise it and say... " this rule does not work ... " ! ?

> This is grossly unfair to K.P., as well as

Traditional Systems,I submit...

> " Years of experience " ,in my humble opinion,

does have its weightage, but that alone cannot be used to justify the

inappropriate application,of Principles,be it of the Traditional or

the K.P.,system...and then blaming the " rules " ...or even the system...

> With regards,

> Yours sincerely,

> lyrastro1

> GOOD LUCK !

>

>

> Inder <indervohra2001> wrote:

>

> Dear Raman,

> If Rahu is in star of Jupiter then Rahu will give the results of

> 11th house[where Jup is posted] and the houses owned by Jpiter

> particularly if those are vacant.

> If Jup is in star of Venus in 12th, then in Rahu period you can

> expect reslts of 11th Jup +houses owned by Jup.You can not get

> result of Venus in 12th. This is very certain.

> Sh Raichur may kindly consider.

> Inder

>

> , anant raichur <anant_1608>

> wrote:

> > Dear Raman

> >

> > Rahu acts as Agent for Jupiter. So whatever Jupiter signifies,

> Rahu will

> > signify

> > As Jupiter signifies 11 and 12 Rahu as the agent will signify

both

> houses

> >

> > This is my personal view

> >

> > --- ramsy37 <ramsy37> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mr.Raichur,

> > >

> > > Suppose Rahu is the significator of 11 by being in the

> constellation

> > > of Jupiter in 11; whereas Jupiter is the significator of 12

> being in

> > > the constellation of a plant in 12. Which way Rahu behave.

> Will it

> > > signify 11 or 12.

> > >

> > > Please clarify.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Raman

> > > , anant raichur

> <anant_1608>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Rongaunt

> > > >

> > > > The rules for Rahu/Ketu are clear cut. They ACT as agents of

> > > >

> > > > 1. the planet withwhich they are conjoined

> > > > 2. Thier Star Lord

> > > > 3. Planets which Aspect Them

> > > > 4. The Lord of the Sign in which they reside

> > > >

> > > > This in order of importance.

> > > >

> > > > Naturally if Rahu is agent of Jupiter, he will signify

> whatever

> > > Jupiter

> > > >

> > > > signifies.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same

> house as

> > > > > their dispositor. But can someone please let me know

> whether

> > > > > they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

> > > > > dispositor is also a significator.

> > > > >

> > > > > Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of

> houses

> > > > > where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter

is

> a

> > > > > significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer,

would

> Rahu

> > > > > also be considered as significator for this house?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > Ron Gaunt

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Dear Rao,

As far I am concerned, I have not learnt traditional astrology atall.

Everything I learnt is from KP Readers and my experience mostly on

Internet reading many many charts.

 

The poimts which I am saying about Rahu/Ketu significators are not

being understood. In Kp lenghty explainations makes things difficult

to comprehend many times.

Best wishes for HOLI.

Inder

 

 

 

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

wrote:

> Dear Members,

> Quite a few of confusions arise,in my humble

opinion,because many K.P. students having imbibed Traditional

Astrology,over many years of studying Astrology,cannot,and

sometimes,I suspect,find it difficult to,or,are not willing

to, whole-heartedly to K.P., principles...and constantly

continue " picking holes in K.P. Astrology " ,and I'm sorry to

say,without properly understanding both systems,I daresay...mostly

due to their inappropriate application...I submit,in a few cases,and

then generalise it and say... " this rule does not work ... " ! ?

> This is grossly unfair to K.P., as well as

Traditional Systems,I submit...

> " Years of experience " ,in my humble opinion,

does have its weightage, but that alone cannot be used to justify the

inappropriate application,of Principles,be it of the Traditional or

the K.P.,system...and then blaming the " rules " ...or even the system...

> With regards,

> Yours sincerely,

> lyrastro1

> GOOD LUCK !

>

>

> Inder <indervohra2001> wrote:

>

> Dear Raman,

> If Rahu is in star of Jupiter then Rahu will give the results of

> 11th house[where Jup is posted] and the houses owned by Jpiter

> particularly if those are vacant.

> If Jup is in star of Venus in 12th, then in Rahu period you can

> expect reslts of 11th Jup +houses owned by Jup.You can not get

> result of Venus in 12th. This is very certain.

> Sh Raichur may kindly consider.

> Inder

>

> , anant raichur <anant_1608>

> wrote:

> > Dear Raman

> >

> > Rahu acts as Agent for Jupiter. So whatever Jupiter signifies,

> Rahu will

> > signify

> > As Jupiter signifies 11 and 12 Rahu as the agent will signify

both

> houses

> >

> > This is my personal view

> >

> > --- ramsy37 <ramsy37> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mr.Raichur,

> > >

> > > Suppose Rahu is the significator of 11 by being in the

> constellation

> > > of Jupiter in 11; whereas Jupiter is the significator of 12

> being in

> > > the constellation of a plant in 12. Which way Rahu behave.

> Will it

> > > signify 11 or 12.

> > >

> > > Please clarify.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Raman

> > > , anant raichur

> <anant_1608>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Rongaunt

> > > >

> > > > The rules for Rahu/Ketu are clear cut. They ACT as agents of

> > > >

> > > > 1. the planet withwhich they are conjoined

> > > > 2. Thier Star Lord

> > > > 3. Planets which Aspect Them

> > > > 4. The Lord of the Sign in which they reside

> > > >

> > > > This in order of importance.

> > > >

> > > > Naturally if Rahu is agent of Jupiter, he will signify

> whatever

> > > Jupiter

> > > >

> > > > signifies.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I know that Rahu and Ketu are significators of the same

> house as

> > > > > their dispositor. But can someone please let me know

> whether

> > > > > they are also the significators of OTHER houses where that

> > > > > dispositor is also a significator.

> > > > >

> > > > > Example Rahu is in Pisces and would be a significator of

> houses

> > > > > where Jupiter is Lord. However in this case say Jupiter

is

> a

> > > > > significator in the sign where Moon is Lord ie Cancer,

would

> Rahu

> > > > > also be considered as significator for this house?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > Ron Gaunt

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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