Guest guest Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Dear Punit, Rangarajan and All, 1. Which kind of TOB would be posted? Most commonly used or what kind of rectified one? 2. Most commonly used TOBs of Tony Blair and Indira Gandhi are said not correct because dasa signification of their rising to power can not be justified with signification of dasa timing, for which help for our research has been requested before. 3. Whenever major life events do not agree with dasa timing, is it a good idea to change most commonly accepted TOBs, like 6:10 AM DST for Tony Blair and 11:11 PM IST for Indira Gandhi? 3. Even for Dr. B. V. Raman there are different TOBs. 4. For information, research or rectification, TOBs, Charts and Timelines are enclosed below. Thanks and best regards, tw I—TONY BLAIR Tony Blair, May 6, 1953, We, 6:10 AM DST, 5:10 AM GMT, Edinburgh, Scotland, 3W13, 55N57, NKPA 23:06:56, Sid Time 19:52:12, Moon dasa balance 3y:8m:18d (1) TOB 6:10 AM DST is rated AA, Quoted BC/BR by AstrodataBank, and discussed by 42 astrolgers of East and West in AstroDatabank forum without complaint. http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/FeedbackPRT.asp?ChartID=19618 (2) KPAstro Corrected Time 6:03:21 AM DST (Rough Estimate) AS PER COUTESY OF KPASTRO 2.0 Planet Longitue Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl-H---Houes Significators Sun 22 Ar 15 34 Mar-Ven-Sat-Mer 12—-12,12,1 Moo 18 Cp 22 43 Sat-Moo-Mer—Ven 10—-10,10,4,5,4,5 Mar 10 Ta 20 25 Ven-Moo-Moo-Jup 12--10,1,4,5,7 Mer 03 Ar 16 24 Mar-Ket-Sun-Jup 12--4,12,2,3,6 Jup 06 Ta 05 10 Ven-Sun-Mer-Mar 12—-12,12,8,9,12 Ven 21 Pi 54 29 Jup-Mer-Sun-Sat 12--12,12,2,3,6,1 S-R 29 Vi 13 57 Mer-Mar-Sat-Moo 6--1,6,7,10,11 Rah 14 Cp 19 59 Sat-Moo-Jup-Sat 10--10,10,4,5 Ket 14 Cn 19 59 Moo-Sat-Rah-Ven 4--6,4,10,11 For 07 Aq 50 41 Sat-Rah-Rah-Ket 11 Ura 22 Ge 10 02 Mer-Jup-Sat-Mer 3 N-R 28 Vi 47 08 Mer-Mar-Sat-Ven 6 Plu 27 Cn 41 05 Moo-Mer-Jup-Rah 5 Cusps Longitue Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl--Planet Significators 1. 11 Ta 43 32 Ven-Moo-Mar-Ven--Sa,Ma,Su,Ve 2. 01 Ge 51 20 Mer-Mar-Mer-Sat--Ve,Me 3. 17 Ge 03 15 Mer-Rah-Ven-Mer--Ve,Me 4. 02 Cn 56 07 Moo-Jup-Rah-Ven--Me,Ke,Mo,Ma,Ra,Mo 5. 24 Cn 20 58 Moo-Mer-Rah-Rah--Mo,Ma,Ra,Mo 6. 03 Vi 10 15 Mer-Sun-Sat-Sat--Ke,Sa,Ve,Me 7. 11 Sc 43 32 Mar-Sat-Moo-Mer--Sa,Ma 8. 01 Sa 51 20 Jup-Ket-Ven-Rah--Ju 9. 17 Sa 03 15 Jup-Ven-Moo-Ket--Ju 10.02 Cp 56 07 Sat-Sun-Jup-Rah--Mo,Ma,Ra,Mo,Ra,Ke,Sa 11.24 Cp 20 58 Sat-Mar-Rah-Rah--Ke,Sa 12.03 Pi 10 15 Jup-Jup-Rah-Moo--Su,Ju,Ve,Su,Me,Ju,Ve,Ju TIMELINE 29-03-1980 (Rah/Moo/Sat/Ven) marriage 19-01-1984 (Jup/Jup/Rah/Mer) son Euan born 06-12-1985 (Jup/Sat/Mar/Mer) son Nicky born 02-03-1988 (Jup/Mer/Rah/Mer) daughter Kathryn born 01-05-1997 (Jup/Rah/Ven/Mar) became PM 20-05-2000 (Sat/Sat/Rah/Sat) youngest son Leo born 07-06-2001 (Sat/Mer/Mer/Sat) reelcted for PM 19-10-2004 (Sat/Ket/Ket/Ket) hospitalised for irregular heartbeat 01-10-2004 (Sat/Ket/Mer/Ven) hospitalised for irregular heartbeat Octob 2004 (Sat/Ket/Mer)---- purchased a house for 3.5 mln pound II--INDIRA GANDHI Indira Gandhi, 19-11-1917, Mo, 11:11 PM IST ( KN Rao:), Allahabad, 81E52, 25N25, NKPA 22:37:14, ST 3:01:10, Sun dasa balance 1y:11m:9d (1) 11:11 PM IST (i) K. N. Rao: Nehru Dinesty,p 106 (ii) K. N. Rao: Timing Events Through Vimshottari Dasha, p 95 (iii) K. N. Rao: Journal of Astrlogy, http://www.journalofastrology.com/archives/Gandhi_Family.htm (iv) · SJC, BirthDataBank2.zip Famous Birth Charts Ver 2.0 (v) Chandulal S. Patel: Predicting Through Navamsa & Nadi Astrology, p 112 (vi) J. N. Bhasin: Art of Prediction p 256 (vii) Col A. K. Gour: The Celestial Delivery Boy, Transt, p 50 (viii) http://www.khaldea.com/charts/indiragandhi.shtml (ix) http://astrolreport.com/famous-g/gandhi.indira.htm (2) 11:03 PM IST, Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, p 49 & 344 (3) 11:07 PM IST, PVR Narasimha Rao, " Predicting with Dasamsa " , Astrological Magazine, Jan 2003, p 87 (4) 11:10 PM IST http://www.indianastrology.com/learn/artofprediction4.asp (5) 11:15 PM (i) Sumeet Chugh: Determing Profession and Ups & Downs in Career, p 94; (ii) M.N. Kedar: Judgement of Bhavas & Timing of Eventd through Dasa and Transit, p 10 (6) 11:20 PM IST by Hart de Fouw & Robert Svoboda, Light on Life, p 365 (7) KPAstro Corrected Time 11:07:10 (Rough Estimate) AS PER COURTESY OF KPASTRO 2.0 Plt Longitude Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl—--H-House Significators Sun 04Sc13:09 Mar-Sat-Sat-Ven-- 4 (12,4,7,8,2) Moo 05CP40:56 Sat-Sun-Mer-Ven-- 6 (4,6,2,1) Mar 16Le28:08 Sun-Ven-Moo-Rah-- 1 (5,1,4,11,5,10) Mer 13Sc19:24 Mar-Sat-Rah-Jup-- 4 (12,4,7,8,3,12) JuR 15Ta05:45 Ven-Moo-Jup-Sun-- 10(6,10,1,6,9) Ven 21Sg05:58 Jup-Ven-Jup-Ven-- 5 (5,5,4,11,4,11) Sat 21Ca52:53 Moo-Mer-Snu-Sat—- 12(4,12,3,12,7,8) Rah 09Sg17:56 Jup–Ket-Jup-Rah-- 5 (11,5) Ket 09Ge17:56 Mer-Rah-Jup-Mer-- 11(5,11) Ura 27Ca20:49 Sta-Mar-Jup-Sun-- 6 NeR 14Ca27:44 Moo-Sat-Rah-Ven-- 12 PlR 12Ge33:11 Mer-Rah-Sat-Jup-- 11 For 28Vi56:05 Mer-Mar-Sat-Ven-- 3 H Longitude Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl---Planet Significators 1. 27Ca28:19 Moo-Mer-Jup-Moo—-Ma,Ju,Mo 2. 23Le18:59 Sun–Ven-Sat-Mar—-Mo,Su 3. 22Vi55:41 Mer-Moo-Sun-Jup—-Sa,Me 4. 25Li08:18 Ven-Jup-Mer-Rah--Mo,Sa,Su,Me,Ma,Ve,Ve 5. 27Sc26:28 Mar-Mer-Jup-Moo--Ma,Ve,Ke,Ve,Ra,Ma 6. 28Sg17:11 Jup-Sun-Moo-Ven—-Ju,Mo,Ju 7. 27Ca28:19 Sat–Mar-Jup-Moo--Su,Me,Sa 8. 23Aq18:59 Sat–Jup-Sat-Rah--Su,Me,Sa 9. 22Pi55:41 Jup–Mer-Moo-Mer--Ju 10.25Ar08:18 Mar-Ven-Mer-Rah--Ju,Ma 11.27Ta26:28 Ven-Mar-Jup-Moo—-Ra,Ke,Ma,Ve,Ve 12.28Ge17:11 Mer-Jup-Ven-Sat—-Su,Me,Sa,Sa,Me TIMELINE 28-02-36 (Mar/Sun/Mer/Rah) mother's death 26-03-42 (Rah/Sat/Sat/Mar) married 20-08-44 (Rah/ Sat/Jup/Ven) son Rajiv born 14-12-46 (Ra/Mer/Sat/Sat) son Sanjay born 08-09-60 (Jup/Mer/Mar/Sat) husband's death 27-05-64 (Jup/Ven/Jup/Rah) father's death 19-01-66 (Jup/Sun/Ven/Ven) elected as PM Feb 1967 (Jup/Moo/Mer or Ket) won general election 17-03-71 (Sat/Sa/Sat/Rah) a landslide victory 22-03-77 (Sat/Ket/Jup/Mer) lost general election and PM 05-01-80 (Sat/Ven/Sat/Mar) won the general election 23-06-80 (Sat/Ven/Mer//Rah) Sanjay's death 31-10-84 (Sat/Rah/Rah/Moo) assassinated III--B.V.RAMAN Bangalor Venkata Raman, 08 Aug 1912, Bangalor, India DIFFERENT TOBS: (1) 7:35 PM IST a/ B. V. Raman: HOW TO JUDGE A HOROSCOPE, vol I, Chart No. 64, p 170 b/ B. V. Raman: HOW TO JUDGE A HOROSCOPE, vol II, Chart No. 8, p 34, Chart No. 93, p 209 & Chart No. 126, p 273 c/ B. V. Raman: NOTABLE HOROSCOPES, Raman by S.R. Iyer, p 401 d/ Raman: HINDI ASTROLOGY AND THE WEST, as an eg. p 161 (2) 7:38 PM IST (RECTIFIED), PVR Narasimha Rao, " Dr. B.V. Raman's Chart Analysis " , The Vedic Astrology Discussion Group, File section (3) 7:42:40 PM IST, K. N. Rao: Timing Events Through Vimshottari Dasha, p 81 (4) 7:42:44 PM IST, B. V. Raman: MY EXPERIENCE IN ASTROLOGY, " I was born on 8-8-1912 at Bangalore at 7h:42m:44s PM (IST) " p 12, Footnote (5) 19:43 PM IST, B. V. Raman original chart, The Vedic Astrology Discussion Group, File section (6) 7:46 PM IST, Raman's Memorial Page by Ronnie Gale Dreyer http://www.solsticepoint.com/astrologersmemorial/raman.html (7) KPAstro Corrected Time 7:52:07 (Roughly Estimate) TIMELINE: for TOB 7:35 PM IST;with * are for TOB 7:42:44/7:46 PM IST in case of differences: 1) April 1914 (359) (*356) mother died; 2) a/ 30-10-30 (894) married Rajeswari @12; b/ 02-11-35 (824) first son Sura Prakash born; c/ late 1937 (55) daughter Saroja born; d/ early May 1940 (579) Suryanarain Rao born; e/ 1942 (57 or 54) (*54) third son Suresh born; f/1961 (76) daughter's wedding; 3) a/ 01-07-28 (842) joined college studies; b/ but were discontinued on Dec 1928 (848) to assist grandfather in his astrological work; c/ 01-07-31 (861) resumed college studies; d/ March 1935 (828) completed B.Sc.; 4) a/ End March- end Aug 1932 (868-865) completed 1st book @20, published only in 1936 (82 or 83); b/ Aug-before Oct 1933 (864) (*864- 869) completed 2nd book, later published in 1938 (55) as Hindu Predictive Astrology, perhaps the most popular one among his more than 20 books; 5) 1936 (83) started the profession by establishing Raman Publication and publishing The Astrological Magazine which he edited 62 years until 1998; 6) a/ Feb 1936 (826) change of residence to Bangalore 12 miles from their village; b/ latter half of 1937 (55) shifted to a smaller house; c/ October 1940 (576) shifted to a newly constructed house (rented); d/ 1942 (54) a larger house was rented; e/ ?? moved to own " Sri Rajeswari " (perhaps found it somewhere, but still missing); 7) 12-03-37 (836) death of grandfather, B. S. Rao, who took care of his bringing with Astrology; 8) 1942-46 (54 to 56) became well known not only in India but also in other countries because of his many successful forecasts on world affairs, particularly Second World War events; 9) Sept 1943 (545) father died; 10) a/ 1947(56) honorary Ph.D. from the Pythagorean University; was elected a Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society, London; b/ 1968 (78) degree of Doctor of literature by the Akhila Bharateeya Samskrita Sammelana; c/ June 1976 (462) honorary degree of Doctor of Letters by the Kumaon University (Utta Pradesh); d/ also Abhinava Varahamihira, Jyotisha; Bhanu, Jyotisha Vignana Marthanda, Jyotisha Ratna, Abhinava haskara, Jyotisha Bhooshana etc. by various organizations; e/ Feb 1996 (948 or 945) (*945) Man of the Year 1995 award by the Centenarian Trust, Madras; 11) a/ 04-10-59 (795) 1st visit to US for 5 weeks; a successful lecture tour of seven US cities and London and Cambridge; b/ 05-09-70 (754) 2nd visit to US for 5 weeks; had the honour to deliver a lecture on Astrology at theUnited Nations, New York on 09-10-70; also lectures in New York, Chicago and London; c/ 21-04-71 (756) 3rd visit to US for three weeks to inaugurate an international astrological congress; d/ 10-09-72 (444) 4th visit to US for 6 weeks; lectures in Athens, US cities and Tokyo; e/ 08-05-81 (437) (*434) 5th visit to US for 3 weeks; lectures in Paris. New York and Chicago; f/ Oct 1992 (987or 984) (*984) 6th visit to US to deliver the Keynote Address at the First International Vedic Symposium in San Rafael, California and was presented with a Lifetime Achievement Award; 12) Dec 1980-Nov 1981 (43) a severe crisis in his domestic life and heavy expenditure; 13) 1984 (48 or 45) founded the Indian Council of Astrological Sciences to regulate study & practice of astrology; 14) 20-12-98 (667) death. , " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy " <ranga@m...> wrote: > > This is a good idea. Thanks, Punit. > > Regards, > Rangarajan > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > Hi Friends, > > > > We were strongly feeling a need of a place where we can find rectified > > charts for research purpose. I have created a database where we can > > put the birth details of people and discuss them. We can use this > > database to test various researches in the field of KP astrology. Here > > is the URL for database - > > > > > /database? method=reportRows & tbl=3 > > > > Please make your entries and let me know your opinion about it. If > > supported by all, this can prove very helpful for testing new > > researches in KP. > > > > Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Dear TW, > >1. Which kind of TOB would be posted? Most commonly used or what kind >of rectified one? In my opinnion both . > >2. Most commonly used TOBs of Tony Blair and Indira Gandhi are said >not correct because dasa signification of their rising to power can >not be justified with signification of dasa timing, for which help >for our research has been requested before. > >3. Whenever major life events do not agree with dasa timing, is it a >good idea to change most commonly accepted TOBs, like 6:10 AM DST for >Tony Blair and 11:11 PM IST for Indira Gandhi? Yes Whenever major life events do not agree with dasa timing, is it a good idea to change most commonly accepted TOBs.If time is correct all evfents must agree with dasa . it is my personal view. regards kanak > >I—TONY BLAIR > >Tony Blair, May 6, 1953, We, 6:10 AM DST, 5:10 AM GMT, Edinburgh, >Scotland, 3W13, 55N57, NKPA 23:06:56, Sid Time 19:52:12, Moon dasa >balance 3y:8m:18d > >(1) TOB 6:10 AM DST is rated AA, Quoted BC/BR by AstrodataBank, >and discussed by 42 astrolgers of East and West in AstroDatabank >forum without complaint. > >http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/FeedbackPRT.asp?ChartID=19618 > >(2) KPAstro Corrected Time 6:03:21 AM DST (Rough Estimate) > > > >AS PER COUTESY OF KPASTRO 2.0 > >Planet Longitue Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl-H---Houes Significators >Sun 22 Ar 15 34 Mar-Ven-Sat-Mer 12—-12,12,1 >Moo 18 Cp 22 43 Sat-Moo-Mer—Ven 10—-10,10,4,5,4,5 >Mar 10 Ta 20 25 Ven-Moo-Moo-Jup 12--10,1,4,5,7 >Mer 03 Ar 16 24 Mar-Ket-Sun-Jup 12--4,12,2,3,6 >Jup 06 Ta 05 10 Ven-Sun-Mer-Mar 12—-12,12,8,9,12 >Ven 21 Pi 54 29 Jup-Mer-Sun-Sat 12--12,12,2,3,6,1 >S-R 29 Vi 13 57 Mer-Mar-Sat-Moo 6--1,6,7,10,11 >Rah 14 Cp 19 59 Sat-Moo-Jup-Sat 10--10,10,4,5 >Ket 14 Cn 19 59 Moo-Sat-Rah-Ven 4--6,4,10,11 >For 07 Aq 50 41 Sat-Rah-Rah-Ket 11 >Ura 22 Ge 10 02 Mer-Jup-Sat-Mer 3 >N-R 28 Vi 47 08 Mer-Mar-Sat-Ven 6 >Plu 27 Cn 41 05 Moo-Mer-Jup-Rah 5 > >Cusps Longitue Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl--Planet Significators >1. 11 Ta 43 32 Ven-Moo-Mar-Ven--Sa,Ma,Su,Ve >2. 01 Ge 51 20 Mer-Mar-Mer-Sat--Ve,Me >3. 17 Ge 03 15 Mer-Rah-Ven-Mer--Ve,Me >4. 02 Cn 56 07 Moo-Jup-Rah-Ven--Me,Ke,Mo,Ma,Ra,Mo >5. 24 Cn 20 58 Moo-Mer-Rah-Rah--Mo,Ma,Ra,Mo >6. 03 Vi 10 15 Mer-Sun-Sat-Sat--Ke,Sa,Ve,Me >7. 11 Sc 43 32 Mar-Sat-Moo-Mer--Sa,Ma >8. 01 Sa 51 20 Jup-Ket-Ven-Rah--Ju >9. 17 Sa 03 15 Jup-Ven-Moo-Ket--Ju >10.02 Cp 56 07 Sat-Sun-Jup-Rah--Mo,Ma,Ra,Mo,Ra,Ke,Sa >11.24 Cp 20 58 Sat-Mar-Rah-Rah--Ke,Sa >12.03 Pi 10 15 Jup-Jup-Rah-Moo--Su,Ju,Ve,Su,Me,Ju,Ve,Ju > > >TIMELINE > >29-03-1980 (Rah/Moo/Sat/Ven) marriage >19-01-1984 (Jup/Jup/Rah/Mer) son Euan born >06-12-1985 (Jup/Sat/Mar/Mer) son Nicky born >02-03-1988 (Jup/Mer/Rah/Mer) daughter Kathryn born >01-05-1997 (Jup/Rah/Ven/Mar) became PM >20-05-2000 (Sat/Sat/Rah/Sat) youngest son Leo born >07-06-2001 (Sat/Mer/Mer/Sat) reelcted for PM >19-10-2004 (Sat/Ket/Ket/Ket) hospitalised for irregular heartbeat >01-10-2004 (Sat/Ket/Mer/Ven) hospitalised for irregular heartbeat >Octob 2004 (Sat/Ket/Mer)---- purchased a house for 3.5 mln pound > > > > > >II--INDIRA GANDHI > >Indira Gandhi, 19-11-1917, Mo, 11:11 PM IST ( KN Rao:), Allahabad, >81E52, 25N25, NKPA 22:37:14, ST 3:01:10, Sun dasa balance 1y:11m:9d > >(1) 11:11 PM IST >(i) K. N. Rao: Nehru Dinesty,p 106 >(ii) K. N. Rao: Timing Events Through Vimshottari Dasha, p 95 >(iii) K. N. Rao: Journal of Astrlogy, >http://www.journalofastrology.com/archives/Gandhi_Family.htm >(iv) · SJC, BirthDataBank2.zip Famous Birth Charts >Ver 2.0 >(v) Chandulal S. Patel: Predicting Through Navamsa & Nadi >Astrology, p 112 >(vi) J. N. Bhasin: Art of Prediction p 256 >(vii) Col A. K. Gour: The Celestial Delivery Boy, Transt, p 50 >(viii) http://www.khaldea.com/charts/indiragandhi.shtml >(ix) http://astrolreport.com/famous-g/gandhi.indira.htm > >(2) 11:03 PM IST, Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, p 49 & 344 > >(3) 11:07 PM IST, PVR Narasimha Rao, "Predicting with Dasamsa", >Astrological Magazine, Jan 2003, p 87 > >(4) 11:10 PM IST >http://www.indianastrology.com/learn/artofprediction4.asp > >(5) 11:15 PM >(i) Sumeet Chugh: Determing Profession and Ups & Downs in Career, >p 94; >(ii) M.N. Kedar: Judgement of Bhavas & Timing of Eventd through Dasa >and Transit, p 10 > >(6) 11:20 PM IST by Hart de Fouw & Robert Svoboda, Light on Life, p >365 > >(7) KPAstro Corrected Time 11:07:10 (Rough Estimate) > > > >AS PER COURTESY OF KPASTRO 2.0 > >Plt Longitude Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl—--H-House Significators >Sun 04Sc13:09 Mar-Sat-Sat-Ven-- 4 (12,4,7,8,2) >Moo 05CP40:56 Sat-Sun-Mer-Ven-- 6 (4,6,2,1) >Mar 16Le28:08 Sun-Ven-Moo-Rah-- 1 (5,1,4,11,5,10) >Mer 13Sc19:24 Mar-Sat-Rah-Jup-- 4 (12,4,7,8,3,12) >JuR 15Ta05:45 Ven-Moo-Jup-Sun-- 10(6,10,1,6,9) >Ven 21Sg05:58 Jup-Ven-Jup-Ven-- 5 (5,5,4,11,4,11) >Sat 21Ca52:53 Moo-Mer-Snu-Sat—- 12(4,12,3,12,7,8) >Rah 09Sg17:56 Jup–Ket-Jup-Rah-- 5 (11,5) >Ket 09Ge17:56 Mer-Rah-Jup-Mer-- 11(5,11) >Ura 27Ca20:49 Sta-Mar-Jup-Sun-- 6 >NeR 14Ca27:44 Moo-Sat-Rah-Ven-- 12 >PlR 12Ge33:11 Mer-Rah-Sat-Jup-- 11 >For 28Vi56:05 Mer-Mar-Sat-Ven-- 3 > >H Longitude Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl---Planet Significators >1. 27Ca28:19 Moo-Mer-Jup-Moo—-Ma,Ju,Mo >2. 23Le18:59 Sun–Ven-Sat-Mar—-Mo,Su >3. 22Vi55:41 Mer-Moo-Sun-Jup—-Sa,Me >4. 25Li08:18 Ven-Jup-Mer-Rah--Mo,Sa,Su,Me,Ma,Ve,Ve >5. 27Sc26:28 Mar-Mer-Jup-Moo--Ma,Ve,Ke,Ve,Ra,Ma >6. 28Sg17:11 Jup-Sun-Moo-Ven—-Ju,Mo,Ju >7. 27Ca28:19 Sat–Mar-Jup-Moo--Su,Me,Sa >8. 23Aq18:59 Sat–Jup-Sat-Rah--Su,Me,Sa >9. 22Pi55:41 Jup–Mer-Moo-Mer--Ju >10.25Ar08:18 Mar-Ven-Mer-Rah--Ju,Ma >11.27Ta26:28 Ven-Mar-Jup-Moo—-Ra,Ke,Ma,Ve,Ve >12.28Ge17:11 Mer-Jup-Ven-Sat—-Su,Me,Sa,Sa,Me > >TIMELINE >28-02-36 (Mar/Sun/Mer/Rah) mother's death >26-03-42 (Rah/Sat/Sat/Mar) married >20-08-44 (Rah/ Sat/Jup/Ven) son Rajiv born >14-12-46 (Ra/Mer/Sat/Sat) son Sanjay born >08-09-60 (Jup/Mer/Mar/Sat) husband's death >27-05-64 (Jup/Ven/Jup/Rah) father's death >19-01-66 (Jup/Sun/Ven/Ven) elected as PM >Feb 1967 (Jup/Moo/Mer or Ket) won general election >17-03-71 (Sat/Sa/Sat/Rah) a landslide victory >22-03-77 (Sat/Ket/Jup/Mer) lost general election and PM >05-01-80 (Sat/Ven/Sat/Mar) won the general election >23-06-80 (Sat/Ven/Mer//Rah) Sanjay's death >31-10-84 (Sat/Rah/Rah/Moo) assassinated > > > > > >III--B.V.RAMAN > >Bangalor Venkata Raman, 08 Aug 1912, Bangalor, India > >DIFFERENT TOBS: > >(1) 7:35 PM IST > >a/ B. V. Raman: HOW TO JUDGE A HOROSCOPE, vol I, Chart No. 64, p 170 >b/ B. V. Raman: HOW TO JUDGE A HOROSCOPE, vol II, Chart No. 8, p 34, >Chart No. 93, p 209 & Chart No. 126, p 273 >c/ B. V. Raman: NOTABLE HOROSCOPES, Raman by S.R. Iyer, p 401 >d/ Raman: HINDI ASTROLOGY AND THE WEST, as an eg. p 161 > >(2) 7:38 PM IST (RECTIFIED), PVR Narasimha Rao, "Dr. B.V. Raman's >Chart Analysis", The Vedic Astrology Discussion Group, File section > >(3) 7:42:40 PM IST, K. N. Rao: Timing Events Through Vimshottari >Dasha, p 81 > >(4) 7:42:44 PM IST, B. V. Raman: MY EXPERIENCE IN ASTROLOGY, "I was >born on 8-8-1912 at Bangalore at 7h:42m:44s PM (IST)" p 12, Footnote > >(5) 19:43 PM IST, B. V. Raman original chart, The Vedic Astrology >Discussion Group, File section > >(6) 7:46 PM IST, Raman's Memorial Page by Ronnie Gale Dreyer >http://www.solsticepoint.com/astrologersmemorial/raman.html > >(7) KPAstro Corrected Time 7:52:07 (Roughly Estimate) > > >TIMELINE: for TOB 7:35 PM IST;with * are for TOB 7:42:44/7:46 PM IST >in case of differences: > >1) April 1914 (359) (*356) mother died; > >2) a/ 30-10-30 (894) married Rajeswari @12; b/ 02-11-35 (824) first >son Sura Prakash born; c/ late 1937 (55) daughter Saroja born; d/ >early May 1940 (579) Suryanarain Rao born; e/ 1942 (57 or 54) (*54) >third son Suresh born; f/1961 (76) daughter's wedding; > >3) a/ 01-07-28 (842) joined college studies; b/ but were >discontinued on Dec 1928 (848) to assist grandfather in his >astrological work; c/ 01-07-31 (861) resumed college studies; d/ >March 1935 (828) completed B.Sc.; > >4) a/ End March- end Aug 1932 (868-865) completed 1st book @20, >published only in 1936 (82 or 83); b/ Aug-before Oct 1933 (864) (*864- >869) completed 2nd book, later published in 1938 (55) as Hindu >Predictive Astrology, perhaps the most popular one among his more >than 20 books; > >5) 1936 (83) started the profession by establishing Raman >Publication and publishing The Astrological Magazine which he edited >62 years until 1998; > >6) a/ Feb 1936 (826) change of residence to Bangalore 12 miles >from their village; b/ latter half of 1937 (55) shifted to a smaller >house; c/ October 1940 (576) shifted to a newly constructed house >(rented); d/ 1942 (54) a larger house was rented; e/ ?? moved to >own "Sri Rajeswari" (perhaps found it somewhere, but still missing); > >7) 12-03-37 (836) death of grandfather, B. S. Rao, who took care >of his bringing with Astrology; > >8) 1942-46 (54 to 56) became well known not only in India but >also in other countries because of his many successful forecasts on >world affairs, particularly Second World War events; > >9) Sept 1943 (545) father died; > >10) a/ 1947(56) honorary Ph.D. from the Pythagorean University; >was elected a Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society, London; b/ >1968 (78) degree of Doctor of literature by the Akhila Bharateeya >Samskrita Sammelana; c/ June 1976 (462) honorary degree of Doctor of >Letters by the Kumaon University (Utta Pradesh); d/ also Abhinava >Varahamihira, Jyotisha; Bhanu, Jyotisha Vignana Marthanda, Jyotisha >Ratna, Abhinava haskara, Jyotisha Bhooshana etc. by various >organizations; e/ Feb 1996 (948 or 945) (*945) Man of the Year 1995 >award by the Centenarian Trust, Madras; > >11) a/ 04-10-59 (795) 1st visit to US for 5 weeks; a successful >lecture tour of seven US cities and London and Cambridge; b/ 05-09-70 >(754) 2nd visit to US for 5 weeks; had the honour to deliver a >lecture on Astrology at theUnited Nations, New York on 09-10-70; also >lectures in New York, Chicago and London; c/ 21-04-71 (756) 3rd visit >to US for three weeks to inaugurate an international astrological >congress; d/ 10-09-72 (444) 4th visit to US for 6 weeks; lectures in >Athens, US cities and Tokyo; e/ 08-05-81 (437) (*434) 5th visit to >US for 3 weeks; lectures in Paris. New York and Chicago; f/ Oct 1992 >(987or 984) (*984) 6th visit to US to deliver the Keynote Address at >the First International Vedic Symposium in San Rafael, California and >was presented with a Lifetime Achievement Award; > >12) Dec 1980-Nov 1981 (43) a severe crisis in his domestic life >and heavy expenditure; > >13) 1984 (48 or 45) founded the Indian Council of Astrological >Sciences to regulate study & practice of astrology; > >14) 20-12-98 (667) death. > > > > > > , "Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy" ><ranga@m...> wrote: > > > > This is a good idea. Thanks, Punit. > > > > Regards, > > Rangarajan > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > Hi Friends, > > > > > > We were strongly feeling a need of a place where we can find >rectified > > > charts for research purpose. I have created a database where we >can > > > put the birth details of people and discuss them. We can use this > > > database to test various researches in the field of KP astrology. >Here > > > is the URL for database - > > > > > > > > /database? >method=reportRows & tbl=3 > > > > > > Please make your entries and let me know your opinion about it. If > > > supported by all, this can prove very helpful for testing new > > > researches in KP. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > Thinking of a vacation? Get all the best deals. Right here at MSN Travel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Tw ji, My idea was to put the charts that are known to us as correct. We should avoid controversial charts like Indira Gandhi or Nehru ji's chart. Regards, Punit Pandey On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 05:35:52 -0000, tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Punit, Rangarajan and All, > > > 1. Which kind of TOB would be posted? Most commonly used or what kind > of rectified one? > > 2. Most commonly used TOBs of Tony Blair and Indira Gandhi are said > not correct because dasa signification of their rising to power can > not be justified with signification of dasa timing, for which help > for our research has been requested before. > > 3. Whenever major life events do not agree with dasa timing, is it a > good idea to change most commonly accepted TOBs, like 6:10 AM DST for > Tony Blair and 11:11 PM IST for Indira Gandhi? > > 3. Even for Dr. B. V. Raman there are different TOBs. > > 4. For information, research or rectification, TOBs, Charts and > Timelines are enclosed below. > > > Thanks and best regards, > > tw > > > > I—TONY BLAIR > > Tony Blair, May 6, 1953, We, 6:10 AM DST, 5:10 AM GMT, Edinburgh, > Scotland, 3W13, 55N57, NKPA 23:06:56, Sid Time 19:52:12, Moon dasa > balance 3y:8m:18d > > (1) TOB 6:10 AM DST is rated AA, Quoted BC/BR by AstrodataBank, > and discussed by 42 astrolgers of East and West in AstroDatabank > forum without complaint. > > http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/FeedbackPRT.asp?ChartID=19618 > > (2) KPAstro Corrected Time 6:03:21 AM DST (Rough Estimate) > > > > AS PER COUTESY OF KPASTRO 2.0 > > Planet Longitue Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl-H---Houes Significators > Sun 22 Ar 15 34 Mar-Ven-Sat-Mer 12—-12,12,1 > Moo 18 Cp 22 43 Sat-Moo-Mer—Ven 10—-10,10,4,5,4,5 > Mar 10 Ta 20 25 Ven-Moo-Moo-Jup 12--10,1,4,5,7 > Mer 03 Ar 16 24 Mar-Ket-Sun-Jup 12--4,12,2,3,6 > Jup 06 Ta 05 10 Ven-Sun-Mer-Mar 12—-12,12,8,9,12 > Ven 21 Pi 54 29 Jup-Mer-Sun-Sat 12--12,12,2,3,6,1 > S-R 29 Vi 13 57 Mer-Mar-Sat-Moo 6--1,6,7,10,11 > Rah 14 Cp 19 59 Sat-Moo-Jup-Sat 10--10,10,4,5 > Ket 14 Cn 19 59 Moo-Sat-Rah-Ven 4--6,4,10,11 > For 07 Aq 50 41 Sat-Rah-Rah-Ket 11 > Ura 22 Ge 10 02 Mer-Jup-Sat-Mer 3 > N-R 28 Vi 47 08 Mer-Mar-Sat-Ven 6 > Plu 27 Cn 41 05 Moo-Mer-Jup-Rah 5 > > Cusps Longitue Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl--Planet Significators > 1. 11 Ta 43 32 Ven-Moo-Mar-Ven--Sa,Ma,Su,Ve > 2. 01 Ge 51 20 Mer-Mar-Mer-Sat--Ve,Me > 3. 17 Ge 03 15 Mer-Rah-Ven-Mer--Ve,Me > 4. 02 Cn 56 07 Moo-Jup-Rah-Ven--Me,Ke,Mo,Ma,Ra,Mo > 5. 24 Cn 20 58 Moo-Mer-Rah-Rah--Mo,Ma,Ra,Mo > 6. 03 Vi 10 15 Mer-Sun-Sat-Sat--Ke,Sa,Ve,Me > 7. 11 Sc 43 32 Mar-Sat-Moo-Mer--Sa,Ma > 8. 01 Sa 51 20 Jup-Ket-Ven-Rah--Ju > 9. 17 Sa 03 15 Jup-Ven-Moo-Ket--Ju > 10.02 Cp 56 07 Sat-Sun-Jup-Rah--Mo,Ma,Ra,Mo,Ra,Ke,Sa > 11.24 Cp 20 58 Sat-Mar-Rah-Rah--Ke,Sa > 12.03 Pi 10 15 Jup-Jup-Rah-Moo--Su,Ju,Ve,Su,Me,Ju,Ve,Ju > > > TIMELINE > > 29-03-1980 (Rah/Moo/Sat/Ven) marriage > 19-01-1984 (Jup/Jup/Rah/Mer) son Euan born > 06-12-1985 (Jup/Sat/Mar/Mer) son Nicky born > 02-03-1988 (Jup/Mer/Rah/Mer) daughter Kathryn born > 01-05-1997 (Jup/Rah/Ven/Mar) became PM > 20-05-2000 (Sat/Sat/Rah/Sat) youngest son Leo born > 07-06-2001 (Sat/Mer/Mer/Sat) reelcted for PM > 19-10-2004 (Sat/Ket/Ket/Ket) hospitalised for irregular heartbeat > 01-10-2004 (Sat/Ket/Mer/Ven) hospitalised for irregular heartbeat > Octob 2004 (Sat/Ket/Mer)---- purchased a house for 3.5 mln pound > > > > > > II--INDIRA GANDHI > > Indira Gandhi, 19-11-1917, Mo, 11:11 PM IST ( KN Rao:), Allahabad, > 81E52, 25N25, NKPA 22:37:14, ST 3:01:10, Sun dasa balance 1y:11m:9d > > (1) 11:11 PM IST > (i) K. N. Rao: Nehru Dinesty,p 106 > (ii) K. N. Rao: Timing Events Through Vimshottari Dasha, p 95 > (iii) K. N. Rao: Journal of Astrlogy, > http://www.journalofastrology.com/archives/Gandhi_Family.htm > (iv) · SJC, BirthDataBank2.zip Famous Birth Charts > Ver 2.0 > (v) Chandulal S. Patel: Predicting Through Navamsa & Nadi > Astrology, p 112 > (vi) J. N. Bhasin: Art of Prediction p 256 > (vii) Col A. K. Gour: The Celestial Delivery Boy, Transt, p 50 > (viii) http://www.khaldea.com/charts/indiragandhi.shtml > (ix) http://astrolreport.com/famous-g/gandhi.indira.htm > > (2) 11:03 PM IST, Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, p 49 & 344 > > (3) 11:07 PM IST, PVR Narasimha Rao, " Predicting with Dasamsa " , > Astrological Magazine, Jan 2003, p 87 > > (4) 11:10 PM IST > http://www.indianastrology.com/learn/artofprediction4.asp > > (5) 11:15 PM > (i) Sumeet Chugh: Determing Profession and Ups & Downs in Career, > p 94; > (ii) M.N. Kedar: Judgement of Bhavas & Timing of Eventd through Dasa > and Transit, p 10 > > (6) 11:20 PM IST by Hart de Fouw & Robert Svoboda, Light on Life, p > 365 > > (7) KPAstro Corrected Time 11:07:10 (Rough Estimate) > > > > AS PER COURTESY OF KPASTRO 2.0 > > Plt Longitude Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl—--H-House Significators > Sun 04Sc13:09 Mar-Sat-Sat-Ven-- 4 (12,4,7,8,2) > Moo 05CP40:56 Sat-Sun-Mer-Ven-- 6 (4,6,2,1) > Mar 16Le28:08 Sun-Ven-Moo-Rah-- 1 (5,1,4,11,5,10) > Mer 13Sc19:24 Mar-Sat-Rah-Jup-- 4 (12,4,7,8,3,12) > JuR 15Ta05:45 Ven-Moo-Jup-Sun-- 10(6,10,1,6,9) > Ven 21Sg05:58 Jup-Ven-Jup-Ven-- 5 (5,5,4,11,4,11) > Sat 21Ca52:53 Moo-Mer-Snu-Sat—- 12(4,12,3,12,7,8) > Rah 09Sg17:56 Jup–Ket-Jup-Rah-- 5 (11,5) > Ket 09Ge17:56 Mer-Rah-Jup-Mer-- 11(5,11) > Ura 27Ca20:49 Sta-Mar-Jup-Sun-- 6 > NeR 14Ca27:44 Moo-Sat-Rah-Ven-- 12 > PlR 12Ge33:11 Mer-Rah-Sat-Jup-- 11 > For 28Vi56:05 Mer-Mar-Sat-Ven-- 3 > > H Longitude Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl---Planet Significators > 1. 27Ca28:19 Moo-Mer-Jup-Moo—-Ma,Ju,Mo > 2. 23Le18:59 Sun–Ven-Sat-Mar—-Mo,Su > 3. 22Vi55:41 Mer-Moo-Sun-Jup—-Sa,Me > 4. 25Li08:18 Ven-Jup-Mer-Rah--Mo,Sa,Su,Me,Ma,Ve,Ve > 5. 27Sc26:28 Mar-Mer-Jup-Moo--Ma,Ve,Ke,Ve,Ra,Ma > 6. 28Sg17:11 Jup-Sun-Moo-Ven—-Ju,Mo,Ju > 7. 27Ca28:19 Sat–Mar-Jup-Moo--Su,Me,Sa > 8. 23Aq18:59 Sat–Jup-Sat-Rah--Su,Me,Sa > 9. 22Pi55:41 Jup–Mer-Moo-Mer--Ju > 10.25Ar08:18 Mar-Ven-Mer-Rah--Ju,Ma > 11.27Ta26:28 Ven-Mar-Jup-Moo—-Ra,Ke,Ma,Ve,Ve > 12.28Ge17:11 Mer-Jup-Ven-Sat—-Su,Me,Sa,Sa,Me > > TIMELINE > 28-02-36 (Mar/Sun/Mer/Rah) mother's death > 26-03-42 (Rah/Sat/Sat/Mar) married > 20-08-44 (Rah/ Sat/Jup/Ven) son Rajiv born > 14-12-46 (Ra/Mer/Sat/Sat) son Sanjay born > 08-09-60 (Jup/Mer/Mar/Sat) husband's death > 27-05-64 (Jup/Ven/Jup/Rah) father's death > 19-01-66 (Jup/Sun/Ven/Ven) elected as PM > Feb 1967 (Jup/Moo/Mer or Ket) won general election > 17-03-71 (Sat/Sa/Sat/Rah) a landslide victory > 22-03-77 (Sat/Ket/Jup/Mer) lost general election and PM > 05-01-80 (Sat/Ven/Sat/Mar) won the general election > 23-06-80 (Sat/Ven/Mer//Rah) Sanjay's death > 31-10-84 (Sat/Rah/Rah/Moo) assassinated > > > > > > III--B.V.RAMAN > > Bangalor Venkata Raman, 08 Aug 1912, Bangalor, India > > DIFFERENT TOBS: > > (1) 7:35 PM IST > > a/ B. V. Raman: HOW TO JUDGE A HOROSCOPE, vol I, Chart No. 64, p 170 > b/ B. V. Raman: HOW TO JUDGE A HOROSCOPE, vol II, Chart No. 8, p 34, > Chart No. 93, p 209 & Chart No. 126, p 273 > c/ B. V. Raman: NOTABLE HOROSCOPES, Raman by S.R. Iyer, p 401 > d/ Raman: HINDI ASTROLOGY AND THE WEST, as an eg. p 161 > > (2) 7:38 PM IST (RECTIFIED), PVR Narasimha Rao, " Dr. B.V. Raman's > Chart Analysis " , The Vedic Astrology Discussion Group, File section > > (3) 7:42:40 PM IST, K. N. Rao: Timing Events Through Vimshottari > Dasha, p 81 > > (4) 7:42:44 PM IST, B. V. Raman: MY EXPERIENCE IN ASTROLOGY, " I was > born on 8-8-1912 at Bangalore at 7h:42m:44s PM (IST) " p 12, Footnote > > (5) 19:43 PM IST, B. V. Raman original chart, The Vedic Astrology > Discussion Group, File section > > (6) 7:46 PM IST, Raman's Memorial Page by Ronnie Gale Dreyer > http://www.solsticepoint.com/astrologersmemorial/raman.html > > (7) KPAstro Corrected Time 7:52:07 (Roughly Estimate) > > > TIMELINE: for TOB 7:35 PM IST;with * are for TOB 7:42:44/7:46 PM IST > in case of differences: > > 1) April 1914 (359) (*356) mother died; > > 2) a/ 30-10-30 (894) married Rajeswari @12; b/ 02-11-35 (824) first > son Sura Prakash born; c/ late 1937 (55) daughter Saroja born; d/ > early May 1940 (579) Suryanarain Rao born; e/ 1942 (57 or 54) (*54) > third son Suresh born; f/1961 (76) daughter's wedding; > > 3) a/ 01-07-28 (842) joined college studies; b/ but were > discontinued on Dec 1928 (848) to assist grandfather in his > astrological work; c/ 01-07-31 (861) resumed college studies; d/ > March 1935 (828) completed B.Sc.; > > 4) a/ End March- end Aug 1932 (868-865) completed 1st book @20, > published only in 1936 (82 or 83); b/ Aug-before Oct 1933 (864) (*864- > 869) completed 2nd book, later published in 1938 (55) as Hindu > Predictive Astrology, perhaps the most popular one among his more > than 20 books; > > 5) 1936 (83) started the profession by establishing Raman > Publication and publishing The Astrological Magazine which he edited > 62 years until 1998; > > 6) a/ Feb 1936 (826) change of residence to Bangalore 12 miles > from their village; b/ latter half of 1937 (55) shifted to a smaller > house; c/ October 1940 (576) shifted to a newly constructed house > (rented); d/ 1942 (54) a larger house was rented; e/ ?? moved to > own " Sri Rajeswari " (perhaps found it somewhere, but still missing); > > 7) 12-03-37 (836) death of grandfather, B. S. Rao, who took care > of his bringing with Astrology; > > 8) 1942-46 (54 to 56) became well known not only in India but > also in other countries because of his many successful forecasts on > world affairs, particularly Second World War events; > > 9) Sept 1943 (545) father died; > > 10) a/ 1947(56) honorary Ph.D. from the Pythagorean University; > was elected a Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society, London; b/ > 1968 (78) degree of Doctor of literature by the Akhila Bharateeya > Samskrita Sammelana; c/ June 1976 (462) honorary degree of Doctor of > Letters by the Kumaon University (Utta Pradesh); d/ also Abhinava > Varahamihira, Jyotisha; Bhanu, Jyotisha Vignana Marthanda, Jyotisha > Ratna, Abhinava haskara, Jyotisha Bhooshana etc. by various > organizations; e/ Feb 1996 (948 or 945) (*945) Man of the Year 1995 > award by the Centenarian Trust, Madras; > > 11) a/ 04-10-59 (795) 1st visit to US for 5 weeks; a successful > lecture tour of seven US cities and London and Cambridge; b/ 05-09-70 > (754) 2nd visit to US for 5 weeks; had the honour to deliver a > lecture on Astrology at theUnited Nations, New York on 09-10-70; also > lectures in New York, Chicago and London; c/ 21-04-71 (756) 3rd visit > to US for three weeks to inaugurate an international astrological > congress; d/ 10-09-72 (444) 4th visit to US for 6 weeks; lectures in > Athens, US cities and Tokyo; e/ 08-05-81 (437) (*434) 5th visit to > US for 3 weeks; lectures in Paris. New York and Chicago; f/ Oct 1992 > (987or 984) (*984) 6th visit to US to deliver the Keynote Address at > the First International Vedic Symposium in San Rafael, California and > was presented with a Lifetime Achievement Award; > > 12) Dec 1980-Nov 1981 (43) a severe crisis in his domestic life > and heavy expenditure; > > 13) 1984 (48 or 45) founded the Indian Council of Astrological > Sciences to regulate study & practice of astrology; > > 14) 20-12-98 (667) death. > > > > > > , " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy " > <ranga@m...> wrote: > > > > This is a good idea. Thanks, Punit. > > > > Regards, > > Rangarajan > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > Hi Friends, > > > > > > We were strongly feeling a need of a place where we can find > rectified > > > charts for research purpose. I have created a database where we > can > > > put the birth details of people and discuss them. We can use this > > > database to test various researches in the field of KP astrology. > Here > > > is the URL for database - > > > > > > > > /database? > method=reportRows & tbl=3 > > > > > > Please make your entries and let me know your opinion about it. If > > > supported by all, this can prove very helpful for testing new > > > researches in KP. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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