Guest guest Posted March 3, 2005 Report Share Posted March 3, 2005 Dear Sandy, Kanak Appriciate your analysis pinponting the event. Congrats. By the way I have not heard of SE charts you have referred to in your analysis. Will you please throw some light? Thanks, Subhash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Dear Subhas, thnx SE = Solar Eclips Western astrologer use this SE as pridiction tool But in Our India generaly we do not use SE But In our Group Mr. Ron Introduce this with KP apsect . SE is very easy to use. Found date when SE come befor event. date and Rasi. and compare with Netal Chart. KP follower are not use SE but after frist KPBC 1,( Mr.Ron 's anlisys) My attrection goes on SE and In KPBC 10 I am use SE and I think it will help us to pinpoint event.but I am not 100% .more thinking needed. You can found SE In " JANMABHUMI MARGDARSHIKA " or any local panchang. regards kanak bosmia >"Subhash" <subhash_ektare > > > KPBC10 >Thu, 03 Mar 2005 22:26:24 -0000 > > >Dear Sandy, Kanak > >Appriciate your analysis pinponting the event. Congrats. By the way >I have not heard of SE charts you have referred to in your analysis. >Will you please throw some light? >Thanks, > >Subhash > > > Try the new Beta version of MSN Messenger - it's FREE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Dear Subhash, Thanks for your kind words... With respect to KP analysis using the Solar Eclipse Chart to additionally verify an event - below is an email (that was posted to another KP group) by Ron Gaunt, describing his usage of SE Charts. Keeping to the traditional KP teachings is VERY important, but from what I have read to date on the KP writings by Prof. K.S. Krishnamurty, the founder of KP was a very wise man indeed, and had actually encouraged his followers right along to do more research. His main mission was his interest and passion for finding the truth, and finding out what astrologically “worked” and worked “consistently” – as is all of ours. I feel that here are many worthless and polluted astrological teachings and techniques out there – and there are also a few teachings and techniques that work (consistently) in the hands of a skilled practitioner. “Consistent” is key in astrological delineation. So, because of my respect for colleague Ron Gaunt (as both a human being and as a dedicated astrologer), after a fashion, I decided to take a new look at an old predictive Western technique that I hadn't revisited in years and years - known as Solar Eclipse - as he (Ron) has been so encouraged by his own personal results in working with SE for quite some time. So below is an excerpt of what he wrote on another KP list with reference to SE. I hope you find it useful... (P.S. I, like Kanak, am also in the beginning stages of researching SE charts, but I am beginning to believe that Ron may be on to something with his usage of SE charts. I will continue to research the same – but the results (so far) look very promising. Any technique that can verify findings/events that you ALREADY suspect, cannot hurt. The more arrows we get pointing in the same direction – the more chart confluence we then have. Analysis of a chart cannot be done piecemeal or in isolation of all other operating factors – it must be integrated and synthesized thoroughly before a selection is made. Once you feel fairly confident about what is operating in any chart – have a look at the SE to see if it supports your decision OR points you in another direction entirely.) All the Best, Sandy Crowther http://www.jupitersweb.com (Below is a post from Ron Gaunt to another KP list:) " et al, I suspect that most members will be aware that my favourite method of prediction is by Solar Eclipse. The reason for this is that it is the only method I know which gives nearly perfect co-relation with forthcoming events. I have often been amazed that others do not use it themselves, as I have shown its value in every chart I have discussed over a number of years. (it doesn't mean that you will give perfect predictions every time because the contacts need interpreting - but the SE does show which planets to look for) Now the penny has dropped. In private correspondence with a member of this List it became obvious that the marvelous facility of 'dynamic transits' offered by Solar Fire is possibly not being utilized to its best effect. I think it would be very difficult to get the impact of SEs without using this facility. What I do is draw up the natal chart, calculate the last SE. (This can be found from the 'eclipse' section of the 'dynamic' drop down. However I would suggest then using the New Moon Phase under 'Chart' 'Lunar Phase' to get the correct angles for the desired location). Then under 'dynamic' select 'Animate Tri Wheel', select 'charts'. For 'Inner wheel' select the natal chart. For middle wheel select the eclipse (this will be shown as New Moon if you use the Moon phase calculation), After selecting the eclipse you will have to go to the box above and make it a 'fixed base chart'. For the outer wheel leave as transit. What you will be looking for is contact of eclipse planets and points ie MC, Asc etc with the natal chart. Use whatever aspects you prefer. I would however particularly suggest that you also consider the square of the nodes as well as their trines. Also close Western aspects seem effective. Watch particularly for close trines as these are the ones that have the same KP Star and Sub Lords. If you print out the Tri-chart and draw in the aspects, you will immediately see which planets are going to produce the dramas for the coming months (prior to the next SE). After doing this step through the dynamic transits on a daily basis watching the planets you have highlighted. The event invariably takes place on the next contact of the transiting planet, occcasionally later. If you see two SE contacts to the same natal planet or angle, this is very important, and if the ongoing transits of these planets also impact the natal around the same time, this is strongly suggestive of the time of the event. Have fun! Ron Gaunt PS. I use the Parallax setting under 'Preferences' for the eclipse, but do not use parallax for the natal or transit chart. (Parallax angles are very appropriate and frequent indicators - the same as the planets). If this seems odd it is simply to stay in accord with our Indian collegues who do not use parallax. If I were to use it for the natal, I would end up with different dasas to them. For the sake of uniformity, and because the originators of the dasa system may have ignored or not considered parallax I think it is better at this stage not to use on natal charts. " Subhash [subhash_ektare] Thursday, March 03, 2005 5:26 PM KPBC10 Dear Sandy, Kanak Appriciate your analysis pinponting the event. Congrats. By the way I have not heard of SE charts you have referred to in your analysis. Will you please throw some light? Thanks, Subhash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Dear Ron, Will appreciate your guidance to locate SE analses in article /sites/books. Thanks.God Bless! Satish , " Sandy Crowther " <sandycrowther@a...> wrote: > Dear Subhash, > > > > Thanks for your kind words... > > > > With respect to KP analysis using the Solar Eclipse Chart to additionally > verify an event - below is an email (that was posted to another KP group) by > Ron Gaunt, describing his usage of SE Charts. Keeping to the traditional KP > teachings is VERY important, but from what I have read to date on the KP > writings by Prof. K.S. Krishnamurty, the founder of KP was a very wise man > indeed, and had actually encouraged his followers right along to do more > research. His main mission was his interest and passion for finding the > truth, and finding out what astrologically " worked " and worked > " consistently " - as is all of ours. I feel that here are many worthless and > polluted astrological teachings and techniques out there - and there are > also a few teachings and techniques that work (consistently) in the hands of > a skilled practitioner. " Consistent " is key in astrological delineation. > > > > So, because of my respect for colleague Ron Gaunt (as both a human being and > as a dedicated astrologer), after a fashion, I decided to take a new look at > an old predictive Western technique that I hadn't revisited in years and > years - known as Solar Eclipse - as he (Ron) has been so encouraged by his > own personal results in working with SE for quite some time. So below is an > excerpt of what he wrote on another KP list with reference to SE. I hope you > find it useful... > > > > (P.S. I, like Kanak, am also in the beginning stages of researching SE > charts, but I am beginning to believe that Ron may be on to something with > his usage of SE charts. I will continue to research the same - but the > results (so far) look very promising. Any technique that can verify > findings/events that you ALREADY suspect, cannot hurt. The more arrows we > get pointing in the same direction - the more chart confluence we then have. > Analysis of a chart cannot be done piecemeal or in isolation of all other > operating factors - it must be integrated and synthesized thoroughly before > a selection is made. Once you feel fairly confident about what is operating > in any chart - have a look at the SE to see if it supports your decision OR > points you in another direction entirely.) > > > > > > All the Best, > > Sandy Crowther > > http://www.jupitersweb.com <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> > > > > (Below is a post from Ron Gaunt to another KP list:) > > > > " et al, > > > > I suspect that most members will be aware that my favourite > > method of prediction is by Solar Eclipse. The reason for this > > is that it is the only method I know which gives nearly perfect > > co-relation with forthcoming events. I have often been > > amazed that others do not use it themselves, as I have shown its > > value in every chart I have discussed over a number of years. > > (it doesn't mean that you will give perfect predictions every > > time because the contacts need interpreting - but the SE does > > show which planets to look for) > > > > Now the penny has dropped. In private correspondence with a > > member of this List it became obvious that the marvelous facility > > of 'dynamic transits' offered by Solar Fire is possibly not being > > utilized to its best effect. I think it would be very > > difficult to get the impact of SEs without using this facility. > > > > What I do is draw up the natal chart, calculate the last SE. > > (This can be found from the 'eclipse' section of the 'dynamic' > > drop down. However I would suggest then using the New Moon > > Phase under 'Chart' 'Lunar Phase' to get the correct angles for > > the desired location). Then under 'dynamic' select 'Animate > > Tri Wheel', select 'charts'. For 'Inner wheel' select the > > natal chart. For middle wheel select the eclipse (this will be > > shown as New Moon if you use the Moon phase calculation), > > After selecting the eclipse you will have to go to the box above > > and make it a 'fixed base chart'. For the outer wheel leave as > > transit. > > > > What you will be looking for is contact of eclipse planets and > > points ie MC, Asc etc with the natal chart. Use whatever > > aspects you prefer. I would however particularly suggest that > > you also consider the square of the nodes as well as their > > trines. Also close Western aspects seem effective. > > Watch particularly for close trines as these are the ones that > > have the same KP Star and Sub Lords. > > > > If you print out the Tri-chart and draw in the aspects, you > > will immediately see which planets are going to produce the > > dramas for the coming months (prior to the next SE). After > > doing this step through the dynamic transits on a daily basis > > watching the planets you have highlighted. The event > > invariably takes place on the next contact of the transiting > > planet, occcasionally later. If you see two SE contacts to the > > same natal planet or angle, this is very important, and if the > > ongoing transits of these planets also impact the natal around > > the same time, this is strongly suggestive of the time of the > > event. > > > > Have fun! > > > > > > Ron Gaunt > > > > PS. I use the Parallax setting under 'Preferences' for the > > eclipse, but do not use parallax for the natal or > > transit chart. (Parallax angles are very appropriate and > > frequent indicators - the same as the planets). If this > > seems odd it is simply to stay in accord with our Indian > > collegues who do not use parallax. If I were to use it > > for the natal, I would end up with different dasas to > > them. For the sake of uniformity, and because the > > originators of the dasa system may have ignored or not > > considered parallax I think it is better at this stage > > not to use on natal charts. " > > > > > > > > > > Subhash [subhash_ektare] > Thursday, March 03, 2005 5:26 PM > > KPBC10 > Dear Sandy, Kanak > > > > Appriciate your analysis pinponting the event. Congrats. By the way > > I have not heard of SE charts you have referred to in your analysis. > > Will you please throw some light? > > Thanks, > > > > Subhash > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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