From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard

March 5, 2005

Dear Satish and Ron,

I also consider aspect of rahu and ket as JUP ( 5th,7th and 9th) and found good result.

One KP astrologer sugest me.

regards

kanak bosmia

>rongaunt <rongaunt

>

>Re: Re: From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard

>Sat, 05 Mar 2005 19:36:48 +1000

>

>Dear Sathish,

>

>There is a lot that I am not certain about in astrology, but one

>thing I feel confident about is that Rahu and Ketu aspect

>positions conjunct, opposition, and trine their natal position.

>I would also include squares myself.

>I have seen this so many times in appropriate circumstances that

>I particularly look for nodal contacts. The SATVA system

>(Systems Approach to Vedic Astrology) places great emphasis on

>this and I think they are correct.

>

>It could be of course that it is Rahu and Ketu that are receiving

>the aspect from the natal planet. But the result is the same.

>Also Rahu and Ketu aspects are very noticeable to angles and

>House Lagna bhavas (same degrees as natal Ascendant) so I do

>think that Rahu and Ketu throw aspects. Look at it this way;

>aspects are simply harmonics of the natal circle, so say a Rahu

>trine is simply a harmonic of its natal position relative to the

>natal chart.

>

>In fact I would go so far as to say that anyone ignoring Rahu and

>Ketu aspects are unlikely to suceed in deliniation or

>prediction as Rahu and Ketu are the most pervasive of all the

>planets.

>

>Ron Gaunt

>

>On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:49:31 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

>

> >Dear Mr. Ron Gaunt :

> >I always thought Rahu and kethu are not considered Real Planets (but shadowy ).

> >How can they aspect any house or planet ? Also they do not OWN any signs in

> >the Zodiac . Prof. K.S.K. has said that only when Rahu or Kethu are conjoined or

> >aspected , by other planets , they will act as their agents and will give the results

> >of those significators .

> >Could some Senior members give their views ?

> >Thanks.

> >Srm

> >

> >rongaunt <rongaunt wrote:

> >

> >Dear Sashi,

> >

> >In the ladies chart Jupiter is the 7th sub lord. Jupiter is

> >closely conjunct the 2nd Cusp signifying promise of marriage.

> >

> >In the gentleman's chart Moon is the 7th sub lord. Moon is

> >significator of the 2nd house being in the star of Mercury.

> >Also Rahu closely conjuncts and is agent for Moon so is also

> >significator for 2nd house. Rahu also aspects the 11th house.

> >All these promise marriage.

> >

> >The ladies chart is very instructive regarding the interplay

> >between the planets. But I will just cover a few points relative

> >to marriage. Natal Saturn opposes Moon. Moon is in the Star

> >of Rahu resident in the 6th house. Rahu received a direct

> >conjunction from the Last Solar Eclipse (SE) point on 4th Oct

> >1986 prior to the marriage. Natal Saturn is in the Star and Sub

> >of Venus Lord of the 7th house of marriage. Jupiter

> >significator of marriage is in the 7th house in the Star and

> >Sub of Saturn. Jupiter aspects Venus in the 2nd house (again

> >relating to marriage and family.

> >

> >Looking at SE Venus we see it opposed by natal Sun. Natal Sun is

> >in the Star of Sun and Sub of Moon linking together the Lords of

> >the 4th and 5th house. This looks like a love marriage with SE

> >Venus in opposition. SE Venus is in the Star of Jupiter

> >dispositor of Saturn which as we have seen is closely tied to

> >significator of marriage Jupiter in the 7th house. Venus in

> >its ongoing transit exactly aspects natal Ascendant on the day of

> >marriage, confirming the birth time.

> >

> >Looking at marriage significator Jupiter we see in the SE it

> >being in close trine aspect to the Cusp of the 7th house. On

> >the day of marriage it came exact trine to natal Jupiter, thus

> >emphasizing the event. It was the Venus transit that decided

> >the day.

> >

> >I haven't had time to look at the gentleman's chart, but I have

> >no doubt that we will find similar indications.

> >

> >Hope this helps.

> >

> >Ron Gaunt

> >

> >On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:13:01 +0000 (GMT), you wrote:

> >

> >>Dear Shashi,

> >> The rule you have quoted has been arrived at after being distilled with years of experience in hundreds of cases...naturally therefore, you are surely going wrong somewhere...

> >> Check for yourself,begining with ...are you using the correct ayanamsa ? Are you using the correct Nirayana Ephemeris ? Have you cast the horoscope correctly, as per K.P. ?

> >> Have you checked for the correctness of the horoscope...?

> >> Pl. inform after checking...I'm confident that you have made some mistake somewhere...you will learn K.P. better,if you re-examine the chart cast by you...there is no need for any help...

> >> With best wishes,

> >> Yours sincerely,

> >> lyrastro1

> >> GOOD LUCK !

> >>Shashi Shankar <sundry1990 wrote:

> >>Dear Groupies,

> >>You have stated that there has to be connection of 2,7 or 11 for marriage. But in one couple's horoscopes that I have studied, marriage took place even though the 7th subs were not connected with these houses but in fact connected to 6th house and the marriage is a happy one. The details are

> >>Female

> >>Date of birth 12.05.1959

> >>Time of birth 05.38 am

> >>Place Bombay

> >>7th Sub lord - Moon 2/4 Rahu 3/3,6

> >>Male

> >>Date of birth 28.11.1961

> >>Time of birth 06.45 pm

> >>Place New Delhi

> >>7th Sub lord - Moon 3/3 Mercury 6/1,2,5

> >>Date of marriage 16.02.1987

> >>Please can you explain? Am I going wrong somewhere?

> >>sundry1990

> >>

> >>Kanakkumar Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote:

> >>

> >>Dear tw

> >>

> >>In system aprroch they consider 8H .(regarding marriage)

> >>

> >>regards

> >>

> >>kanak bosmia

> >>

> >>>"tw853" <tw853

> >>>

> >>> Re: From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard

> >>>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 05:46:51 -0000

> >>>

> >>>Dear Balaji G.krishnan,

> >>>

> >>> >> 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or

> >>> >>under compulsion and benefiting the other party.

> >>>

> >>>1. Th main issue is 8th may not a sigificator for marriage in KP

> >>>since among others it also indicates delay in marriage. (KP Reader

> >>>IV, p 138)

> >>>

> >>>2. It may be difficult to take the 8th as a really very good bhava

> >>>for 7th matters with its clear indication of disharmony and quarrel,

> >>>torchored or insulted or having painful experiences in married life

> >>>without possibility of separation, and maraka of spouse which may not

> >>>allow to enjoy the native positive aspects of 8th. (If the 7th CSL is

> >>>linked with 5 & 8 houses, both husband and wife would cause

> >>>disrespects to mutually spoil their name and fame. K. Baskaran:

> >>>Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, p 130)

> >>>

> >>>Best regards,

> >>>

> >>>tw

> >>>

> >>> , "Balaji G.krishnan"

> >>><balaji_g_krishnan> wrote:

> >>> > Dear all,

> >>> >

> >>> > Also,please admit me to add few more sentences.This 8th Bhava is

> >>>having a lot of matters related to marriage from different angles

> >>>which are positive and more of negative for the native.

> >>> >

> >>> > 1.8TH is 2nd to the 7th bhava which denotes family of the life

> >>>partner,money of the life partner,sexual instincts,dowry or luck to

> >>>the life partner,etc.

> >>> >

> >>> > 2.So 8th signification by 7th CSL is good for 7th bhava but for 5th

> >>>bhava it is bad. So if the marriage is love marriage it shows tension

> >>>and conflicts.Ofcourse even it might be secret marriage like register

> >>>marriage wherein elders consent of both parties is missing.It also

> >>>indicates marriage under compulsion or force.But 5th CSL indicating

> >>>8th is bad and it shows disgrace,humiliation and painful incidences

> >>>in life.Ofcourse insult from children or painful incidences from

> >>>children.Loss of knowledge or wisdom.etc..

> >>> >

> >>> > 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or

> >>>under compulsion and benefiting the other party.It is really a very

> >>>good bhava for 7th matters as Guruji has explained in the Fourth

> >>>reader page no.154,8th denotes disharmony and quarrel .but not for

> >>>seperation and to experience difficulty.

> >>> >

> >>> > In most of the charts of brides who are all torchored or insulted

> >>>or having painful experiences in married life,this 8th signification

> >>>will be there.

> >>> >

> >>> > Dear K.P friends Pls verify this or share your opinions here.

> >>> >

> >>> > Thanks

> >>> > Balaji Gopalakrishnan

> >>> > Chennai-4

> >>> > +98840 47760.

> >>> >

> >>> > Dear Shri Anant Raichur,

> >>> >

> >>> > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be

> >>>promised

> >>> > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord.

> >>> >

> >>> > Best regards,

> >>> >

> >>> > Tin Win

> >>> >

> >>> > , anant raichur <anant_1608>

> >>> > wrote:

> >>> > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and 1st.

> >>> > Mangalya (esp

> >>> > > of

> >>> > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it has

> >>>to

> >>> > do with

> >>> > > marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the

> >>>longevity

> >>> > of the

> >>> > > married life, after marriage.

> >>> > > good luck

> >>> > > (

> >>> > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

> >>> > >

> >>> > > > Dear tw853,

> >>> > > > Allow me to add,that some also consider the

> >>>8th

> >>> > house as the

> >>> > > > "maangalya-sthana"...

> >>> > > > lyrastro1

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > Dear Kpk,

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of

> >>> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

> >>>marriage

> >>> > since

> >>> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th.

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets,

> >>>recent

> >>> > KP

> >>> > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in

> >>>KP

> >>> > > > Readers)

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to

> >>> > reunion.

> >>> > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for

> >>> > considering

> >>> > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and

> >>> > discord

> >>> > > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage,

> >>>e.g.

> >>> > in

> >>> > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets)

> >>>and

> >>> > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale

> >>>taking

> >>> > 8th

> >>> > > > in judging whether marriage is promised?

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > Thanks and regards,

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > tw

> >>> > > >

> >>> > > > , "kpk3010" <kpk3010>

> >>>wrote:

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that

> >>> > the 7th

> >>> > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars.

> >>>He

> >>> > is

> >>> > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own

> >>>Sub.

> >>> > He is

> >>> > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4

> >>> > > > Planets

> >>> > > > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon,

> >>>Mars

> >>> > and

> >>> > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub.

> >>>Let

> >>> > me

> >>> > > > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by

> >>>one.

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is

> >>> > considered

> >>> > > > > weak to give result)

> >>> > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO

> >>> > PLANETS IN

> >>> > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE

> >>>HOUSES)

> >>> > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect)

> >>> > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect)

> >>>Cusp

> >>> > Sub

> >>> > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY

> >>> > > > POWERFUL

> >>> > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

> >>> > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN

> >>>HIS

> >>> > > > STARS

> >>> > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES)

> >>> > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not

> >>>been

> >>> > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results

> >>>since

> >>> > they

> >>> > > > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any

> >>>other

> >>> > > > Planets

> >>> > > > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word

> >>>`shadow'

> >>> > > > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe

> >>> > anything

> >>> > > > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly

> >>> > > > understand

> >>> > > > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets

> >>> > since

> >>> > > > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon.

> >>> > Under

> >>> > > > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp,

> >>> > that too

> >>> > > > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to

> >>> > fathom as

> >>> > > > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his

> >>> > Stars

> >>> > > > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will

> >>> > definitely

> >>> > > > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen

> >>> > above

> >>> > > > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this

> >>>Rahu

> >>> > has

> >>> > > > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving

> >>>him

> >>> > > > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that

> >>> > signification

> >>> > > > of

> >>> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

> >>>marriage

> >>> > since

> >>> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE

> >>> > SRI

> >>> > > > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that

> >>>unless

> >>> > the

> >>> > > > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can

> >>> > straightaway

> >>> > > > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all

> >>>in

> >>> > his

> >>> > > > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp

> >>>Sub

> >>> > Lord,

> >>> > > > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there

> >>> > are no

> >>> > > > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will

> >>> > > > definitely

> >>> > > > > be there for this person.

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in

> >>> > operation on

> >>> > > > > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are

> >>> > > > MERCURY

> >>> > > > > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS.

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu.

> >>> > Though

> >>> > > > > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub

> >>>Lord

> >>> > is

> >>> > > > very

> >>> > > > > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed

> >>>in

> >>> > > > detail

> >>> > > > > above.

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of

> >>> > Mercury

> >>> > > > the

> >>> > > > > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably

> >>> > placed

> >>> > > > the

> >>> > > > > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that

> >>>this

> >>> > > > Venus

> >>> > > > > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is

> >>>the

> >>> > > > KARAKA

> >>> > > > > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage.

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub

> >>>of

> >>> > > > > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen.

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will

> >>> > definitely

> >>> > > > > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for

> >>>this

> >>> > Venus

> >>> > > > > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to

> >>> > the

> >>> > > > 7th,

> >>> > > > > his would be wife.

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > Kpk3010

> >>> > > > >

> >>> > > > > , sathish kumar

> >>> > > > > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote:

> >>> > > > > > Guruji,

> >>> > > > > >

> >>> > > > > > my question is :

> >>> > > > > > this person is not yet married and no relationship with

> >>> > any

> >>> > > > girl

> >>> > > > > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house

> >>> > cancer

> >>> > > > > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who

> >>>is

> >>> > > > > posited in 12 house

> >>> > > > > >

> >>> > > > > > dob: 22-09-1972

> >>> > > > > > time: 15:12

> >>> > > > > > place: bangalore

> >>> > > > > >

> >>> > > > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004

> >>> > > > > >

> >>> > > > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it

> >>>is

> >>> > so

> >>> > > > > (technically)

> >>> > > > > >

> >>> > > > > > plz tell why it is so

> >>> > > > > >

> >>> > > > > > regards

> >>> > > > > >

> >>> > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

> >>> > > >

March 5, 2005

Dear Kanak,

K.P. always considered Rahu and Kethu stronger than the planet/s they represent...I agree with youall...

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !

Kanakkumar Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote:

Dear Satish and Ron,

I also consider aspect of rahu and ket as JUP ( 5th,7th and 9th) and found good result.

One KP astrologer sugest me.

regards

kanak bosmia

>rongaunt <rongaunt > > >Re: Re: From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard >Sat, 05 Mar 2005 19:36:48 +1000 > > >Dear Sathish, > >There is a lot that I am not certain about in astrology, but one >thing I feel confident about is that Rahu and Ketu aspect >positions conjunct, opposition, and trine their natal position. >I would also include squares myself. >I have seen this so many times in appropriate circumstances that >I particularly look for nodal contacts. The SATVA system >(Systems Approach to Vedic Astrology) places great emphasis on >this and I think they are correct. > >It could be of course that it is Rahu and Ketu that are receiving >the aspect from the natal planet. But the result is the same. >Also Rahu and Ketu aspects are very noticeable to angles and >House Lagna bhavas (same degrees as natal Ascendant) so I do >think that Rahu and Ketu throw aspects. Look at it this way; >aspects are simply harmonics of the natal circle, so say a Rahu >trine is simply a harmonic of its natal position relative to the >natal chart. > >In fact I would go so far as to say that anyone ignoring Rahu and >Ketu aspects are unlikely to suceed in deliniation or >prediction as Rahu and Ketu are the most pervasive of all the >planets. > > >Ron Gaunt > > > > >On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:49:31 -0800 (PST), you wrote: > > >Dear Mr. Ron Gaunt : > >I always thought Rahu and kethu are not considered Real Planets (but shadowy ). > >How can they aspect any house or planet ? Also they do not OWN any signs in > >the Zodiac . Prof. K.S.K. has said that only when Rahu or Kethu are conjoined or > >aspected , by other planets , they will act as their agents and will give the results > >of those significators . > >Could some Senior members give their views ? > >Thanks. > >Srm > > > >rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > > > >Dear Sashi, > > > >In the ladies chart Jupiter is the 7th sub lord. Jupiter is > >closely conjunct the 2nd Cusp signifying promise of marriage. > > > >In the gentleman's chart Moon is the 7th sub lord. Moon is > >significator of the 2nd house being in the star of Mercury. > >Also Rahu closely conjuncts and is agent for Moon so is also > >significator for 2nd house. Rahu also aspects the 11th house. > >All these promise marriage. > > > >The ladies chart is very instructive regarding the interplay > >between the planets. But I will just cover a few points relative > >to marriage. Natal Saturn opposes Moon. Moon is in the Star > >of Rahu resident in the 6th house. Rahu received a direct > >conjunction from the Last Solar Eclipse (SE) point on 4th Oct > >1986 prior to the marriage. Natal Saturn is in the Star and Sub > >of Venus Lord of the 7th house of marriage. Jupiter > >significator of marriage is in the 7th house in the Star and > >Sub of Saturn. Jupiter aspects Venus in the 2nd house (again > >relating to marriage and family. > > > >Looking at SE Venus we see it opposed by natal Sun. Natal Sun is > >in the Star of Sun and Sub of Moon linking together the Lords of > >the 4th and 5th house. This looks like a love marriage with SE > >Venus in opposition. SE Venus is in the Star of Jupiter > >dispositor of Saturn which as we have seen is closely tied to > >significator of marriage Jupiter in the 7th house. Venus in > >its ongoing transit exactly aspects natal Ascendant on the day of > >marriage, confirming the birth time. > > > >Looking at marriage significator Jupiter we see in the SE it > >being in close trine aspect to the Cusp of the 7th house. On > >the day of marriage it came exact trine to natal Jupiter, thus > >emphasizing the event. It was the Venus transit that decided > >the day. > > > >I haven't had time to look at the gentleman's chart, but I have > >no doubt that we will find similar indications. > > > >Hope this helps. > > > > > >Ron Gaunt > > > > > > > >On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:13:01 +0000 (GMT), you wrote: > > > >>Dear Shashi, > >> The rule you have quoted has been arrived at after being distilled with years of experience in hundreds of cases...naturally therefore, you are surely going wrong somewhere... > >> Check for yourself,begining with ...are you using the correct ayanamsa ? Are you using the correct Nirayana Ephemeris ? Have you cast the horoscope correctly, as per K.P. ? > >> Have you checked for the correctness of the horoscope...? > >> Pl. inform after checking...I'm confident that you have made some mistake somewhere...you will learn K.P. better,if you re-examine the chart cast by you...there is no need for any help... > >> With best wishes, > >> Yours sincerely, > >> lyrastro1 > >> GOOD LUCK ! > >>Shashi Shankar <sundry1990 wrote: > >>Dear Groupies, > >>You have stated that there has to be connection of 2,7 or 11 for marriage. But in one couple's horoscopes that I have studied, marriage took place even though the 7th subs were not connected with these houses but in fact connected to 6th house and the marriage is a happy one. The details are > >>Female > >>Date of birth 12.05.1959 > >>Time of birth 05.38 am > >>Place Bombay > >>7th Sub lord - Moon 2/4 Rahu 3/3,6 > >>Male > >>Date of birth 28.11.1961 > >>Time of birth 06.45 pm > >>Place New Delhi > >>7th Sub lord - Moon 3/3 Mercury 6/1,2,5 > >>Date of marriage 16.02.1987 > >>Please can you explain? Am I going wrong somewhere? > >>sundry1990 > >> > >> > >> > >>Kanakkumar Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote: > >> > >>Dear tw > >> > >>In system aprroch they consider 8H .(regarding marriage) > >> > >>regards > >> > >>kanak bosmia > >> > >> > >> > >>>"tw853" <tw853 > >>> > >>> > >>> Re: From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard > >>>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 05:46:51 -0000 > >>> > >>> > >>>Dear Balaji G.krishnan, > >>> > >>> >> 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or > >>> >>under compulsion and benefiting the other party. > >>> > >>> > >>>1. Th main issue is 8th may not a sigificator for marriage in KP > >>>since among others it also indicates delay in marriage. (KP Reader > >>>IV, p 138) > >>> > >>>2. It may be difficult to take the 8th as a really very good bhava > >>>for 7th matters with its clear indication of disharmony and quarrel, > >>>torchored or insulted or having painful experiences in married life > >>>without possibility of separation, and maraka of spouse which may not > >>>allow to enjoy the native positive aspects of 8th. (If the 7th CSL is > >>>linked with 5 & 8 houses, both husband and wife would cause > >>>disrespects to mutually spoil their name and fame. K. Baskaran: > >>>Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, p 130) > >>> > >>>Best regards, > >>> > >>> > >>>tw > >>> > >>> > >>> , "Balaji G.krishnan" > >>><balaji_g_krishnan> wrote: > >>> > Dear all, > >>> > > >>> > Also,please admit me to add few more sentences.This 8th Bhava is > >>>having a lot of matters related to marriage from different angles > >>>which are positive and more of negative for the native. > >>> > > >>> > 1.8TH is 2nd to the 7th bhava which denotes family of the life > >>>partner,money of the life partner,sexual instincts,dowry or luck to > >>>the life partner,etc. > >>> > > >>> > 2.So 8th signification by 7th CSL is good for 7th bhava but for 5th > >>>bhava it is bad. So if the marriage is love marriage it shows tension > >>>and conflicts.Ofcourse even it might be secret marriage like register > >>>marriage wherein elders consent of both parties is missing.It also > >>>indicates marriage under compulsion or force.But 5th CSL indicating > >>>8th is bad and it shows disgrace,humiliation and painful incidences > >>>in life.Ofcourse insult from children or painful incidences from > >>>children.Loss of knowledge or wisdom.etc.. > >>> > > >>> > 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or > >>>under compulsion and benefiting the other party.It is really a very > >>>good bhava for 7th matters as Guruji has explained in the Fourth > >>>reader page no.154,8th denotes disharmony and quarrel .but not for > >>>seperation and to experience difficulty. > >>> > > >>> > In most of the charts of brides who are all torchored or insulted > >>>or having painful experiences in married life,this 8th signification > >>>will be there. > >>> > > >>> > Dear K.P friends Pls verify this or share your opinions here. > >>> > > >>> > Thanks > >>> > Balaji Gopalakrishnan > >>> > Chennai-4 > >>> > +98840 47760. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Dear Shri Anant Raichur, > >>> > > >>> > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be > >>>promised > >>> > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord. > >>> > > >>> > Best regards, > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Tin Win > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > , anant raichur <anant_1608> > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and 1st. > >>> > Mangalya (esp > >>> > > of > >>> > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it has > >>>to > >>> > do with > >>> > > marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the > >>>longevity > >>> > of the > >>> > > married life, after marriage. > >>> > > good luck > >>> > > ( > >>> > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > Dear tw853, > >>> > > > Allow me to add,that some also consider the > >>>8th > >>> > house as the > >>> > > > "maangalya-sthana"... > >>> > > > lyrastro1 > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Dear Kpk, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of > >>> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give > >>>marriage > >>> > since > >>> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets, > >>>recent > >>> > KP > >>> > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in > >>>KP > >>> > > > Readers) > >>> > > > > >>> > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to > >>> > reunion. > >>> > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for > >>> > considering > >>> > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and > >>> > discord > >>> > > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage, > >>>e.g. > >>> > in > >>> > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets) > >>>and > >>> > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale > >>>taking > >>> > 8th > >>> > > > in judging whether marriage is promised? > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Thanks and regards, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > tw > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > , "kpk3010" <kpk3010> > >>>wrote: > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that > >>> > the 7th > >>> > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars. > >>>He > >>> > is > >>> > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own > >>>Sub. > >>> > He is > >>> > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4 > >>> > > > Planets > >>> > > > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon, > >>>Mars > >>> > and > >>> > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub. > >>>Let > >>> > me > >>> > > > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by > >>>one. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is > >>> > considered > >>> > > > > weak to give result) > >>> > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO > >>> > PLANETS IN > >>> > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE > >>>HOUSES) > >>> > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect) > >>> > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect) > >>>Cusp > >>> > Sub > >>> > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY > >>> > > > POWERFUL > >>> > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES. > >>> > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN > >>>HIS > >>> > > > STARS > >>> > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES) > >>> > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not > >>>been > >>> > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results > >>>since > >>> > they > >>> > > > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any > >>>other > >>> > > > Planets > >>> > > > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word > >>>`shadow' > >>> > > > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe > >>> > anything > >>> > > > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly > >>> > > > understand > >>> > > > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets > >>> > since > >>> > > > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon. > >>> > Under > >>> > > > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp, > >>> > that too > >>> > > > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to > >>> > fathom as > >>> > > > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his > >>> > Stars > >>> > > > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will > >>> > definitely > >>> > > > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen > >>> > above > >>> > > > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this > >>>Rahu > >>> > has > >>> > > > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving > >>>him > >>> > > > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that > >>> > signification > >>> > > > of > >>> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give > >>>marriage > >>> > since > >>> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE > >>> > SRI > >>> > > > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that > >>>unless > >>> > the > >>> > > > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can > >>> > straightaway > >>> > > > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all > >>>in > >>> > his > >>> > > > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp > >>>Sub > >>> > Lord, > >>> > > > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there > >>> > are no > >>> > > > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will > >>> > > > definitely > >>> > > > > be there for this person. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in > >>> > operation on > >>> > > > > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are > >>> > > > MERCURY > >>> > > > > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu. > >>> > Though > >>> > > > > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub > >>>Lord > >>> > is > >>> > > > very > >>> > > > > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed > >>>in > >>> > > > detail > >>> > > > > above. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of > >>> > Mercury > >>> > > > the > >>> > > > > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably > >>> > placed > >>> > > > the > >>> > > > > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that > >>>this > >>> > > > Venus > >>> > > > > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is > >>>the > >>> > > > KARAKA > >>> > > > > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub > >>>of > >>> > > > > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will > >>> > definitely > >>> > > > > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for > >>>this > >>> > Venus > >>> > > > > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to > >>> > the > >>> > > > 7th, > >>> > > > > his would be wife. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Kpk3010 > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > , sathish kumar > >>> > > > > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote: > >>> > > > > > Guruji, > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > my question is : > >>> > > > > > this person is not yet married and no relationship with > >>> > any > >>> > > > girl > >>> > > > > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house > >>> > cancer > >>> > > > > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who > >>>is > >>> > > > > posited in 12 house > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > dob: 22-09-1972 > >>> > > > > > time: 15:12 > >>> > > > > > place: bangalore > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004 > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it > >>>is > >>> > so > >>> > > > > (technically) > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > plz tell why it is so > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > regards > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > >

March 5, 2005

Dear Sri. Lajmi ji:

According to KP Rahu and kethu are stroner than the planets , ONLY when they

are conjoined or aspected by these significators . Rahu and Kethu do not ASPECT

any house or planets , according to KP . What are the aspects of Rahu and Kethu;

3,7,10 or 5 .9 or 4 ,8, or only 7 ? Which KP reader mentions about the aspects of

Rahu and Kethu ? Are we mixing the Vedic Astrology theories with KP System

in this group ? Also the SE system is difficult to analyse with KP System .

I think only KP system and new research in this system only should be focussed

in this paricular group , where there are lot of learned KP Scholars .

Your comments are appreciated .

Thank you .

SRW

Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

Dear Kanak,

K.P. always considered Rahu and Kethu stronger than the planet/s they represent...I agree with youall...

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !

Kanakkumar Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote:

Dear Satish and Ron,

I also consider aspect of rahu and ket as JUP ( 5th,7th and 9th) and found good result.

One KP astrologer sugest me.

regards

kanak bosmia

>rongaunt <rongaunt > > >Re: Re: From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard >Sat, 05 Mar 2005 19:36:48 +1000 > > >Dear Sathish, > >There is a lot that I am not certain about in astrology, but one >thing I feel confident about is that Rahu and Ketu aspect >positions conjunct, opposition, and trine their natal position. >I would also include squares myself. >I have seen this so many times in appropriate circumstances that >I particularly look for nodal contacts. The SATVA system >(Systems Approach to Vedic Astrology) places great emphasis on >this and I think they are correct. > >It could be of course that it is Rahu and Ketu that are receiving >the aspect from the natal planet. But the result is the same. >Also Rahu and Ketu aspects are very noticeable to angles and >House Lagna bhavas (same degrees as natal Ascendant) so I do >think that Rahu and Ketu throw aspects. Look at it this way; >aspects are simply harmonics of the natal circle, so say a Rahu >trine is simply a harmonic of its natal position relative to the >natal chart. > >In fact I would go so far as to say that anyone ignoring Rahu and >Ketu aspects are unlikely to suceed in deliniation or >prediction as Rahu and Ketu are the most pervasive of all the >planets. > > >Ron Gaunt > > > > >On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:49:31 -0800 (PST), you wrote: > > >Dear Mr. Ron Gaunt : > >I always thought Rahu and kethu are not considered Real Planets (but shadowy ). > >How can they aspect any house or planet ? Also they do not OWN any signs in > >the Zodiac . Prof. K.S.K. has said that only when Rahu or Kethu are conjoined or > >aspected , by other planets , they will act as their agents and will give the results > >of those significators . > >Could some Senior members give their views ? > >Thanks. > >Srm > > > >rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > > > >Dear Sashi, > > > >In the ladies chart Jupiter is the 7th sub lord. Jupiter is > >closely conjunct the 2nd Cusp signifying promise of marriage. > > > >In the gentleman's chart Moon is the 7th sub lord. Moon is > >significator of the 2nd house being in the star of Mercury. > >Also Rahu closely conjuncts and is agent for Moon so is also > >significator for 2nd house. Rahu also aspects the 11th house. > >All these promise marriage. > > > >The ladies chart is very instructive regarding the interplay > >between the planets. But I will just cover a few points relative > >to marriage. Natal Saturn opposes Moon. Moon is in the Star > >of Rahu resident in the 6th house. Rahu received a direct > >conjunction from the Last Solar Eclipse (SE) point on 4th Oct > >1986 prior to the marriage. Natal Saturn is in the Star and Sub > >of Venus Lord of the 7th house of marriage. Jupiter > >significator of marriage is in the 7th house in the Star and > >Sub of Saturn. Jupiter aspects Venus in the 2nd house (again > >relating to marriage and family. > > > >Looking at SE Venus we see it opposed by natal Sun. Natal Sun is > >in the Star of Sun and Sub of Moon linking together the Lords of > >the 4th and 5th house. This looks like a love marriage with SE > >Venus in opposition. SE Venus is in the Star of Jupiter > >dispositor of Saturn which as we have seen is closely tied to > >significator of marriage Jupiter in the 7th house. Venus in > >its ongoing transit exactly aspects natal Ascendant on the day of > >marriage, confirming the birth time. > > > >Looking at marriage significator Jupiter we see in the SE it > >being in close trine aspect to the Cusp of the 7th house. On > >the day of marriage it came exact trine to natal Jupiter, thus > >emphasizing the event. It was the Venus transit that decided > >the day. > > > >I haven't had time to look at the gentleman's chart, but I have > >no doubt that we will find similar indications. > > > >Hope this helps. > > > > > >Ron Gaunt > > > > > > > >On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:13:01 +0000 (GMT), you wrote: > > > >>Dear Shashi, > >> The rule you have quoted has been arrived at after being distilled with years of experience in hundreds of cases...naturally therefore, you are surely going wrong somewhere... > >> Check for yourself,begining with ...are you using the correct ayanamsa ? Are you using the correct Nirayana Ephemeris ? Have you cast the horoscope correctly, as per K.P. ? > >> Have you checked for the correctness of the horoscope...? > >> Pl. inform after checking...I'm confident that you have made some mistake somewhere...you will learn K.P. better,if you re-examine the chart cast by you...there is no need for any help... > >> With best wishes, > >> Yours sincerely, > >> lyrastro1 > >> GOOD LUCK ! > >>Shashi Shankar <sundry1990 wrote: > >>Dear Groupies, > >>You have stated that there has to be connection of 2,7 or 11 for marriage. But in one couple's horoscopes that I have studied, marriage took place even though the 7th subs were not connected with these houses but in fact connected to 6th house and the marriage is a happy one. The details are > >>Female > >>Date of birth 12.05.1959 > >>Time of birth 05.38 am > >>Place Bombay > >>7th Sub lord - Moon 2/4 Rahu 3/3,6 > >>Male > >>Date of birth 28.11.1961 > >>Time of birth 06.45 pm > >>Place New Delhi > >>7th Sub lord - Moon 3/3 Mercury 6/1,2,5 > >>Date of marriage 16.02.1987 > >>Please can you explain? Am I going wrong somewhere? > >>sundry1990 > >> > >> > >> > >>Kanakkumar Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote: > >> > >>Dear tw > >> > >>In system aprroch they consider 8H .(regarding marriage) > >> > >>regards > >> > >>kanak bosmia > >> > >> > >> > >>>"tw853" <tw853 > >>> > >>> > >>> Re: From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard > >>>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 05:46:51 -0000 > >>> > >>> > >>>Dear Balaji G.krishnan, > >>> > >>> >> 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or > >>> >>under compulsion and benefiting the other party. > >>> > >>> > >>>1. Th main issue is 8th may not a sigificator for marriage in KP > >>>since among others it also indicates delay in marriage. (KP Reader > >>>IV, p 138) > >>> > >>>2. It may be difficult to take the 8th as a really very good bhava > >>>for 7th matters with its clear indication of disharmony and quarrel, > >>>torchored or insulted or having painful experiences in married life > >>>without possibility of separation, and maraka of spouse which may not > >>>allow to enjoy the native positive aspects of 8th. (If the 7th CSL is > >>>linked with 5 & 8 houses, both husband and wife would cause > >>>disrespects to mutually spoil their name and fame. K. Baskaran: > >>>Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, p 130) > >>> > >>>Best regards, > >>> > >>> > >>>tw > >>> > >>> > >>> , "Balaji G.krishnan" > >>><balaji_g_krishnan> wrote: > >>> > Dear all, > >>> > > >>> > Also,please admit me to add few more sentences.This 8th Bhava is > >>>having a lot of matters related to marriage from different angles > >>>which are positive and more of negative for the native. > >>> > > >>> > 1.8TH is 2nd to the 7th bhava which denotes family of the life > >>>partner,money of the life partner,sexual instincts,dowry or luck to > >>>the life partner,etc. > >>> > > >>> > 2.So 8th signification by 7th CSL is good for 7th bhava but for 5th > >>>bhava it is bad. So if the marriage is love marriage it shows tension > >>>and conflicts.Ofcourse even it might be secret marriage like register > >>>marriage wherein elders consent of both parties is missing.It also > >>>indicates marriage under compulsion or force.But 5th CSL indicating > >>>8th is bad and it shows disgrace,humiliation and painful incidences > >>>in life.Ofcourse insult from children or painful incidences from > >>>children.Loss of knowledge or wisdom.etc.. > >>> > > >>> > 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or > >>>under compulsion and benefiting the other party.It is really a very > >>>good bhava for 7th matters as Guruji has explained in the Fourth > >>>reader page no.154,8th denotes disharmony and quarrel .but not for > >>>seperation and to experience difficulty. > >>> > > >>> > In most of the charts of brides who are all torchored or insulted > >>>or having painful experiences in married life,this 8th signification > >>>will be there. > >>> > > >>> > Dear K.P friends Pls verify this or share your opinions here. > >>> > > >>> > Thanks > >>> > Balaji Gopalakrishnan > >>> > Chennai-4 > >>> > +98840 47760. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Dear Shri Anant Raichur, > >>> > > >>> > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be > >>>promised > >>> > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord. > >>> > > >>> > Best regards, > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Tin Win > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > , anant raichur <anant_1608> > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and 1st. > >>> > Mangalya (esp > >>> > > of > >>> > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it has > >>>to > >>> > do with > >>> > > marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the > >>>longevity > >>> > of the > >>> > > married life, after marriage. > >>> > > good luck > >>> > > ( > >>> > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > Dear tw853, > >>> > > > Allow me to add,that some also consider the > >>>8th > >>> > house as the > >>> > > > "maangalya-sthana"... > >>> > > > lyrastro1 > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Dear Kpk, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of > >>> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give > >>>marriage > >>> > since > >>> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets, > >>>recent > >>> > KP > >>> > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in > >>>KP > >>> > > > Readers) > >>> > > > > >>> > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to > >>> > reunion. > >>> > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for > >>> > considering > >>> > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and > >>> > discord > >>> > > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage, > >>>e.g. > >>> > in > >>> > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets) > >>>and > >>> > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale > >>>taking > >>> > 8th > >>> > > > in judging whether marriage is promised? > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Thanks and regards, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > tw > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > , "kpk3010" <kpk3010> > >>>wrote: > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that > >>> > the 7th > >>> > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars. > >>>He > >>> > is > >>> > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own > >>>Sub. > >>> > He is > >>> > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4 > >>> > > > Planets > >>> > > > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon, > >>>Mars > >>> > and > >>> > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub. > >>>Let > >>> > me > >>> > > > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by > >>>one. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is > >>> > considered > >>> > > > > weak to give result) > >>> > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO > >>> > PLANETS IN > >>> > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE > >>>HOUSES) > >>> > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect) > >>> > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect) > >>>Cusp > >>> > Sub > >>> > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY > >>> > > > POWERFUL > >>> > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES. > >>> > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN > >>>HIS > >>> > > > STARS > >>> > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES) > >>> > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not > >>>been > >>> > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results > >>>since > >>> > they > >>> > > > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any > >>>other > >>> > > > Planets > >>> > > > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word > >>>`shadow' > >>> > > > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe > >>> > anything > >>> > > > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly > >>> > > > understand > >>> > > > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets > >>> > since > >>> > > > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon. > >>> > Under > >>> > > > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp, > >>> > that too > >>> > > > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to > >>> > fathom as > >>> > > > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his > >>> > Stars > >>> > > > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will > >>> > definitely > >>> > > > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen > >>> > above > >>> > > > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this > >>>Rahu > >>> > has > >>> > > > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving > >>>him > >>> > > > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that > >>> > signification > >>> > > > of > >>> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give > >>>marriage > >>> > since > >>> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE > >>> > SRI > >>> > > > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that > >>>unless > >>> > the > >>> > > > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can > >>> > straightaway > >>> > > > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all > >>>in > >>> > his > >>> > > > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp > >>>Sub > >>> > Lord, > >>> > > > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there > >>> > are no > >>> > > > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will > >>> > > > definitely > >>> > > > > be there for this person. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in > >>> > operation on > >>> > > > > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are > >>> > > > MERCURY > >>> > > > > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu. > >>> > Though > >>> > > > > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub > >>>Lord > >>> > is > >>> > > > very > >>> > > > > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed > >>>in > >>> > > > detail > >>> > > > > above. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of > >>> > Mercury > >>> > > > the > >>> > > > > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably > >>> > placed > >>> > > > the > >>> > > > > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that > >>>this > >>> > > > Venus > >>> > > > > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is > >>>the > >>> > > > KARAKA > >>> > > > > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub > >>>of > >>> > > > > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will > >>> > definitely > >>> > > > > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for > >>>this > >>> > Venus > >>> > > > > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to > >>> > the > >>> > > > 7th, > >>> > > > > his would be wife. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Kpk3010 > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > , sathish kumar > >>> > > > > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote: > >>> > > > > > Guruji, > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > my question is : > >>> > > > > > this person is not yet married and no relationship with > >>> > any > >>> > > > girl > >>> > > > > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house > >>> > cancer > >>> > > > > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who > >>>is > >>> > > > > posited in 12 house > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > dob: 22-09-1972 > >>> > > > > > time: 15:12 > >>> > > > > > place: bangalore > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004 > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it > >>>is > >>> > so > >>> > > > > (technically) > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > plz tell why it is so > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > regards > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > >

March 7, 2005

My understanding is that RAHU and Ketu have only two aspects, viz., conjunction and opposition. Rahu and ketu can be agents of other planets which aspect them, and these planets are already significators. So we have to consider Mars,Sat, and Jupiter, who can have aspects other than conj, and opp. If they are significators, and cast an aspect on Rahu/Ketu, then Rahu/ Ketu becom significators also, and will be strong significators.

B Sridhaeran <raichur_m wrote: