From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard

February 26, 2005

Guruji,

my question is :

this person is not yet married and no relationship with any girl in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house cancer starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who is posited in 12 house

dob: 22-09-1972

time: 15:12

place: bangalore

mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004

can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it is so (technically)

plz tell why it is so

regards

India Matrimony: Find your life partner

online.

February 27, 2005

In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that the 7th

Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars. He is

occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own Sub. He is

in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4 Planets

closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon, Mars and

Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub. Let me

tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by one.

Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is considered

weak to give result)

Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO PLANETS IN

HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE HOUSES)

Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect)

Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect) Cusp Sub

Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL

TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS

AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES)

In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not been

satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results since they

are not Planets that can be observed physically like any other Planets

and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word `shadow'

itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe anything

clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly understand

these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets since

they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon. Under

the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp, that too

with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to fathom as

to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his Stars

and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will definitely

give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen above

that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this Rahu has

taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving him

marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of

houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give marriage since

5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE SRI

K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that unless the

7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can straightaway

decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all in his

life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp Sub Lord,

Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there are no

Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will definitely

be there for this person.

Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in operation on

the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are MERCURY

/ VENUS / MOON / VENUS.

Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu. Though

Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub Lord is very

powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed in detail

above.

Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of Mercury the

Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably placed the

Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that this Venus

is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is the KARAKA

PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage.

Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub of

the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen.

Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will definitely

get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for this Venus

who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to the 7th,

his would be wife.

Kpk3010

, sathish kumar

<sathish_kumar_a> wrote:

> Guruji,

>

> my question is :

> this person is not yet married and no relationship with any girl

in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house cancer

starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who is

posited in 12 house

>

> dob: 22-09-1972

> time: 15:12

> place: bangalore

>

> mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004

>

> can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it is so

(technically)

>

> plz tell why it is so

>

> regards

>

> India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

March 1, 2005

Dear Kpk,

> Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of

> houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give marriage since

> 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th.

1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets, recent KP

Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in KP

Readers)

2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to reunion.

Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for considering

timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and discord

in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage, e.g. in

KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets) and

Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale taking 8th

in judging whether marriage is promised?

Thanks and regards,

tw

, " kpk3010 " <kpk3010> wrote:

>

> In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that the 7th

> Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars. He is

> occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own Sub. He is

> in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4

Planets

> closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon, Mars and

> Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub. Let me

> tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by one.

>

> Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is considered

> weak to give result)

> Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO PLANETS IN

> HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE HOUSES)

> Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect)

> Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect) Cusp Sub

> Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY

POWERFUL

> TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

> Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN HIS

STARS

> AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES)

> In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not been

> satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results since they

> are not Planets that can be observed physically like any other

Planets

> and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word `shadow'

> itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe anything

> clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly

understand

> these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets since

> they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon. Under

> the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp, that too

> with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to fathom as

> to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his Stars

> and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will definitely

> give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen above

> that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this Rahu has

> taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving him

> marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification

of

> houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give marriage since

> 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE SRI

> K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that unless the

> 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can straightaway

> decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all in his

> life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp Sub Lord,

> Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there are no

> Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will

definitely

> be there for this person.

>

> Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in operation on

> the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are

MERCURY

> / VENUS / MOON / VENUS.

>

> Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu. Though

> Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub Lord is

very

> powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed in

detail

> above.

>

> Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of Mercury

the

> Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably placed

the

> Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that this

Venus

> is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is the

KARAKA

> PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage.

>

> Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub of

> the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen.

>

> Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will definitely

> get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for this Venus

> who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to the

7th,

> his would be wife.

>

> Kpk3010

>

> , sathish kumar

> <sathish_kumar_a> wrote:

> > Guruji,

> >

> > my question is :

> > this person is not yet married and no relationship with any

girl

> in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house cancer

> starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who is

> posited in 12 house

> >

> > dob: 22-09-1972

> > time: 15:12

> > place: bangalore

> >

> > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004

> >

> > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it is so

> (technically)

> >

> > plz tell why it is so

> >

> > regards

> >

> > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

March 1, 2005

Dear tw853,

Allow me to add,that some also consider the 8th house as the "maangalya-sthana"...

lyrastro1

tw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear Kpk,> Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of> houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give marriage since> 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th.1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets, recent KP Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in KP Readers)2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to reunion. Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for considering timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and discord in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage, e.g. in KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets) and Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale taking 8th in judging whether marriage is promised? Thanks

and regards,tw , "kpk3010" <kpk3010> wrote:> > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that the 7th> Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars. He is> occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own Sub. He is> in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4 Planets> closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon, Mars and> Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub. Let me> tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by one.> > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is considered> weak to give result)> Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO PLANETS IN> HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE HOUSES)> Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9

and 11 through aspect)> Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect) Cusp Sub> Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL> TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.> Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS> AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES)> In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not been> satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results since they> are not Planets that can be observed physically like any other Planets> and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word `shadow'> itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe anything> clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly understand> these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets since> they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon. Under>

the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp, that too> with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to fathom as> to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his Stars> and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will definitely> give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen above> that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this Rahu has> taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving him> marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of> houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give marriage since> 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE SRI> K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that unless the> 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can straightaway> decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all in his> life

time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp Sub Lord,> Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there are no> Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will definitely> be there for this person.> > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in operation on> the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are MERCURY> / VENUS / MOON / VENUS. > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu. Though> Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub Lord is very> powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed in detail> above.> > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of Mercury the> Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably placed the> Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that this Venus> is

occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is the KARAKA> PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage.> > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub of> the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen.> > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will definitely> get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for this Venus> who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to the 7th,> his would be wife.> > Kpk3010 > > > > , sathish kumar> <sathish_kumar_a> wrote:> > Guruji,> > > > my question is :> > this person is not yet married and no relationship with any girl> in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house cancer > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload

is rahu who is> posited in 12 house > > > > dob: 22-09-1972> > time: 15:12> > place: bangalore> > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004> > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it is so> (technically) > > > > > > > > plz tell why it is so> > > > regards> > > > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.Dear

India Matrimony: Find your life partner

online.

March 1, 2005

Dear Rao,

It is mentioned in KP Reader IV,1984, p 203 and KP Reader VI, 1978, p

248.

Thanks and best regards,

tw

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

wrote:

> Dear tw853,

> Allow me to add,that some also consider the 8th

house as the " maangalya-sthana " ...

> lyrastro1

>

> tw853 <tw853> wrote:

>

> Dear Kpk,

>

> > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of

> > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give marriage

since

> > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th.

>

> 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets, recent KP

> Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in KP

> Readers)

>

> 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to reunion.

> Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for considering

> timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and

discord

> in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage, e.g.

in

> KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets) and

> Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale taking

8th

> in judging whether marriage is promised?

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010> wrote:

> >

> > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that the

7th

> > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars. He is

> > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own Sub. He

is

> > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4

> Planets

> > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon, Mars

and

> > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub. Let me

> > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by one.

> >

> > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is

considered

> > weak to give result)

> > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO PLANETS

IN

> > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE HOUSES)

> > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect)

> > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect) Cusp Sub

> > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY

> POWERFUL

> > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

> > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN HIS

> STARS

> > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES)

> > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not been

> > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results since

they

> > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any other

> Planets

> > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word `shadow'

> > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe anything

> > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly

> understand

> > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets since

> > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon.

Under

> > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp, that

too

> > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to fathom

as

> > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his

Stars

> > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will

definitely

> > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen above

> > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this Rahu has

> > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving him

> > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that

signification

> of

> > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give marriage

since

> > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE SRI

> > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that unless

the

> > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can straightaway

> > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all in his

> > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp Sub

Lord,

> > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there are

no

> > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will

> definitely

> > be there for this person.

> >

> > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in operation

on

> > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are

> MERCURY

> > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS.

> >

> > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu.

Though

> > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub Lord is

> very

> > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed in

> detail

> > above.

> >

> > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of

Mercury

> the

> > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably

placed

> the

> > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that this

> Venus

> > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is the

> KARAKA

> > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage.

> >

> > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub of

> > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen.

> >

> > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will

definitely

> > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for this

Venus

> > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to the

> 7th,

> > his would be wife.

> >

> > Kpk3010

> >

> > , sathish kumar

> > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote:

> > > Guruji,

> > >

> > > my question is :

> > > this person is not yet married and no relationship with any

> girl

> > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house

cancer

> > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who is

> > posited in 12 house

> > >

> > > dob: 22-09-1972

> > > time: 15:12

> > > place: bangalore

> > >

> > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004

> > >

> > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it is so

> > (technically)

> > >

> > > plz tell why it is so

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

>

March 1, 2005

8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and 1st. Mangalya (esp

of

Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it has to do with

marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the longevity of the

married life, after marriage.

good luck

(

--- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

> Dear tw853,

> Allow me to add,that some also consider the 8th house as the

> " maangalya-sthana " ...

> lyrastro1

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

>

> Dear Kpk,

>

> > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of

> > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give marriage since

> > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th.

>

> 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets, recent KP

> Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in KP

> Readers)

>

> 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to reunion.

> Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for considering

> timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and discord

> in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage, e.g. in

> KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets) and

> Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale taking 8th

> in judging whether marriage is promised?

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010> wrote:

> >

> > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that the 7th

> > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars. He is

> > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own Sub. He is

> > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4

> Planets

> > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon, Mars and

> > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub. Let me

> > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by one.

> >

> > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is considered

> > weak to give result)

> > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO PLANETS IN

> > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE HOUSES)

> > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect)

> > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect) Cusp Sub

> > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY

> POWERFUL

> > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

> > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN HIS

> STARS

> > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES)

> > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not been

> > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results since they

> > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any other

> Planets

> > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word `shadow'

> > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe anything

> > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly

> understand

> > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets since

> > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon. Under

> > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp, that too

> > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to fathom as

> > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his Stars

> > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will definitely

> > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen above

> > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this Rahu has

> > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving him

> > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification

> of

> > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give marriage since

> > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE SRI

> > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that unless the

> > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can straightaway

> > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all in his

> > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp Sub Lord,

> > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there are no

> > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will

> definitely

> > be there for this person.

> >

> > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in operation on

> > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are

> MERCURY

> > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS.

> >

> > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu. Though

> > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub Lord is

> very

> > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed in

> detail

> > above.

> >

> > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of Mercury

> the

> > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably placed

> the

> > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that this

> Venus

> > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is the

> KARAKA

> > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage.

> >

> > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub of

> > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen.

> >

> > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will definitely

> > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for this Venus

> > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to the

> 7th,

> > his would be wife.

> >

> > Kpk3010

> >

> > , sathish kumar

> > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote:

> > > Guruji,

> > >

> > > my question is :

> > > this person is not yet married and no relationship with any

> girl

> > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house cancer

> > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who is

> > posited in 12 house

> > >

> > > dob: 22-09-1972

> > > time: 15:12

> > > place: bangalore

> > >

> > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004

> > >

> > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it is so

> > (technically)

> > >

> > > plz tell why it is so

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

>

March 1, 2005

Dear Shri Anant Raichur,

I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be promised

by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord.

Best regards,

Tin Win

, anant raichur <anant_1608>

wrote:

> 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and 1st.

Mangalya (esp

> of

> Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it has to

do with

> marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the longevity

of the

> married life, after marriage.

> good luck

> (

> --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

>

> > Dear tw853,

> > Allow me to add,that some also consider the 8th

house as the

> > " maangalya-sthana " ...

> > lyrastro1

> >

> > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Kpk,

> >

> > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of

> > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give marriage

since

> > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th.

> >

> > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets, recent

KP

> > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in KP

> > Readers)

> >

> > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to

reunion.

> > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for

considering

> > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and

discord

> > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage, e.g.

in

> > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets) and

> > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale taking

8th

> > in judging whether marriage is promised?

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010> wrote:

> > >

> > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that

the 7th

> > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars. He

is

> > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own Sub.

He is

> > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4

> > Planets

> > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon, Mars

and

> > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub. Let

me

> > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by one.

> > >

> > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is

considered

> > > weak to give result)

> > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO

PLANETS IN

> > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE HOUSES)

> > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect)

> > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect) Cusp

Sub

> > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY

> > POWERFUL

> > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

> > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN HIS

> > STARS

> > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES)

> > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not been

> > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results since

they

> > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any other

> > Planets

> > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word `shadow'

> > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe

anything

> > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly

> > understand

> > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets

since

> > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon.

Under

> > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp,

that too

> > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to

fathom as

> > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his

Stars

> > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will

definitely

> > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen

above

> > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this Rahu

has

> > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving him

> > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that

signification

> > of

> > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give marriage

since

> > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE

SRI

> > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that unless

the

> > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can

straightaway

> > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all in

his

> > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp Sub

Lord,

> > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there

are no

> > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will

> > definitely

> > > be there for this person.

> > >

> > > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in

operation on

> > > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are

> > MERCURY

> > > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS.

> > >

> > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu.

Though

> > > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub Lord

is

> > very

> > > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed in

> > detail

> > > above.

> > >

> > > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of

Mercury

> > the

> > > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably

placed

> > the

> > > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that this

> > Venus

> > > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is the

> > KARAKA

> > > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage.

> > >

> > > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub of

> > > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen.

> > >

> > > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will

definitely

> > > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for this

Venus

> > > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to

the

> > 7th,

> > > his would be wife.

> > >

> > > Kpk3010

> > >

> > > , sathish kumar

> > > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote:

> > > > Guruji,

> > > >

> > > > my question is :

> > > > this person is not yet married and no relationship with

any

> > girl

> > > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house

cancer

> > > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who is

> > > posited in 12 house

> > > >

> > > > dob: 22-09-1972

> > > > time: 15:12

> > > > place: bangalore

> > > >

> > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004

> > > >

> > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it is

so

> > > (technically)

> > > >

> > > > plz tell why it is so

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

> >

March 1, 2005

Dear KPK,

Please take my comments just for keeping Guruji KSK's originals for

KP learners like me. One more ---

>>But GURUJI LATE SRI K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly

>>ruled that unless the 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or

>>11, we can > straightaway decide that for such a person there will

>>no marriage at all in his life time.

As per KP, marriage is denied (Grapes are sour.) when 7th cusp

sublord is deposietd in the star of the significators of 4,6 and 10

houses because 12th to 2,7, & 11 (for marriage) indicates the denial of

marriage and 4th (12th to 5) indicates failure in love affairs and

also denial of children. (KP Reader IV, 1984, pp 105-106)

Best regards,

tw

, " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:

>

> Dear Shri Anant Raichur,

>

> I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be

promised

> by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Tin Win

>

> , anant raichur <anant_1608>

> wrote:

> > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and 1st.

> Mangalya (esp

> > of

> > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it has

to

> do with

> > marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the

longevity

> of the

> > married life, after marriage.

> > good luck

> > (

> > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear tw853,

> > > Allow me to add,that some also consider the

8th

> house as the

> > > " maangalya-sthana " ...

> > > lyrastro1

> > >

> > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kpk,

> > >

> > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of

> > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

marriage

> since

> > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th.

> > >

> > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets,

recent

> KP

> > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in

KP

> > > Readers)

> > >

> > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to

> reunion.

> > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for

> considering

> > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and

> discord

> > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage,

e.g.

> in

> > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets)

and

> > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale

taking

> 8th

> > > in judging whether marriage is promised?

> > >

> > > Thanks and regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that

> the 7th

> > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars.

He

> is

> > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own

Sub.

> He is

> > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4

> > > Planets

> > > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon,

Mars

> and

> > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub.

Let

> me

> > > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by

one.

> > > >

> > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is

> considered

> > > > weak to give result)

> > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO

> PLANETS IN

> > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE

HOUSES)

> > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect)

> > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect)

Cusp

> Sub

> > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY

> > > POWERFUL

> > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

> > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN

HIS

> > > STARS

> > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES)

> > > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not

been

> > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results

since

> they

> > > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any

other

> > > Planets

> > > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word

`shadow'

> > > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe

> anything

> > > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly

> > > understand

> > > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets

> since

> > > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon.

> Under

> > > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp,

> that too

> > > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to

> fathom as

> > > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his

> Stars

> > > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will

> definitely

> > > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen

> above

> > > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this

Rahu

> has

> > > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving

him

> > > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that

> signification

> > > of

> > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

marriage

> since

> > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE

> SRI

> > > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that

unless

> the

> > > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can

> straightaway

> > > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all

in

> his

> > > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp

Sub

> Lord,

> > > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there

> are no

> > > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will

> > > definitely

> > > > be there for this person.

> > > >

> > > > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in

> operation on

> > > > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are

> > > MERCURY

> > > > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS.

> > > >

> > > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu.

> Though

> > > > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub

Lord

> is

> > > very

> > > > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed

in

> > > detail

> > > > above.

> > > >

> > > > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of

> Mercury

> > > the

> > > > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably

> placed

> > > the

> > > > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that

this

> > > Venus

> > > > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is

the

> > > KARAKA

> > > > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub

of

> > > > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen.

> > > >

> > > > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will

> definitely

> > > > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for

this

> Venus

> > > > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to

> the

> > > 7th,

> > > > his would be wife.

> > > >

> > > > Kpk3010

> > > >

> > > > , sathish kumar

> > > > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote:

> > > > > Guruji,

> > > > >

> > > > > my question is :

> > > > > this person is not yet married and no relationship with

> any

> > > girl

> > > > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house

> cancer

> > > > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who

is

> > > > posited in 12 house

> > > > >

> > > > > dob: 22-09-1972

> > > > > time: 15:12

> > > > > place: bangalore

> > > > >

> > > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004

> > > > >

> > > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it

is

> so

> > > > (technically)

> > > > >

> > > > > plz tell why it is so

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > >

> > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

> > >

March 1, 2005

Dear all,

Also,please admit me to add few more sentences.This 8th Bhava is having a lot of matters related to marriage from different angles which are positive and more of negative for the native.

1.8TH is 2nd to the 7th bhava which denotes family of the life partner,money of the life partner,sexual instincts,dowry or luck to the life partner,etc.

2.So 8th signification by 7th CSL is good for 7th bhava but for 5th bhava it is bad. So if the marriage is love marriage it shows tension and conflicts.Ofcourse even it might be secret marriage like register marriage wherein elders consent of both parties is missing.It also indicates marriage under compulsion or force.But 5th CSL indicating 8th is bad and it shows disgrace,humiliation and painful incidences in life.Ofcourse insult from children or painful incidences from children.Loss of knowledge or wisdom.etc..

3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or under compulsion and benefiting the other party.It is really a very good bhava for 7th matters as Guruji has explained in the Fourth reader page no.154,8th denotes disharmony and quarrel .but not for seperation and to experience difficulty.

In most of the charts of brides who are all torchored or insulted or having painful experiences in married life,this 8th signification will be there.

Dear K.P friends Pls verify this or share your opinions here.

Thanks

Balaji Gopalakrishnan

Chennai-4

+98840 47760.

Dear Shri Anant Raichur,I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be promised by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord.Best regards,Tin Win , anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote:> 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and 1st. Mangalya (esp> of > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it has to do with> marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the longevity of the> married life, after marriage. > good luck> (> --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:> > > Dear tw853,> > Allow me to add,that some also consider

the 8th house as the> > "maangalya-sthana"...> > lyrastro1> > > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:> > > > Dear Kpk,> > > > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of> > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give marriage since> > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th.> > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets, recent KP > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in KP > > Readers)> > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to reunion. > >

Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for considering > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and discord > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage, e.g. in > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets) and > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale taking 8th > > in judging whether marriage is promised? > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > tw> > > > > > > > > > > > , "kpk3010" <kpk3010> wrote:> > > > > > > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that the 7th> > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars. He is> > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own

Sub. He is> > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4 > > Planets> > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon, Mars and> > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub. Let me> > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by one.> > > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is considered> > > weak to give result)> > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO PLANETS IN> > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE HOUSES)> > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect)> > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect) Cusp Sub> > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY > > POWERFUL> >

> TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.> > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN HIS > > STARS> > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES)> > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not been> > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results since they> > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any other > > Planets> > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word `shadow'> > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe anything> > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly > > understand> > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets since> > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon. Under> > > the circumstances this Rahu

taking the control of 7th Cusp, that too> > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to fathom as> > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his Stars> > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will definitely> > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen above> > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this Rahu has> > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving him> > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification > > of> > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give marriage since> > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE SRI> > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that unless the> > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord

signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can straightaway> > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all in his> > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp Sub Lord,> > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there are no> > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will > > definitely> > > be there for this person.> > > > > > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in operation on> > > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are > > MERCURY> > > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS. > > > > > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu. Though> > > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub Lord is > > very> > > powerful to give marriage due the

reasons already discussed in > > detail> > > above.> > > > > > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of Mercury > > the> > > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably placed > > the> > > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that this > > Venus> > > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is the > > KARAKA> > > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage.> > > > > > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub of> > > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen.> > > > > > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will definitely> > > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for this Venus> > > who (Sun) signifies very strongly

8th house, which is 2nd to the > > 7th,> > > his would be wife.> > > > > > Kpk3010 > > > > > > > > > > > > , sathish kumar> > > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote:> > > > Guruji,> > > > > > > > my question is :> > > > this person is not yet married and no relationship with any > > girl> > > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house cancer > > > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who is> > > posited in 12 house > > > > > > > > dob: 22-09-1972> > > > time: 15:12> > > > place: bangalore> > > > > > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from

sep 2004> > > > > > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it is so> > > (technically) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plz tell why it is so> > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.> > > > > > > > > >

March 1, 2005

This is where the so called 4 step theory comes. We not only consider the Sub

Lord but go further and consider the STAR LORD of this Sublord.

--- tw853 <tw853 wrote:

>

> Dear KPK,

>

> Please take my comments just for keeping Guruji KSK's originals for

> KP learners like me. One more ---

>

> >>But GURUJI LATE SRI K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly

> >>ruled that unless the 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or

> >>11, we can > straightaway decide that for such a person there will

> >>no marriage at all in his life time.

>

> As per KP, marriage is denied (Grapes are sour.) when 7th cusp

> sublord is deposietd in the star of the significators of 4,6 and 10

> houses because 12th to 2,7, & 11 (for marriage) indicates the denial of

> marriage and 4th (12th to 5) indicates failure in love affairs and

> also denial of children. (KP Reader IV, 1984, pp 105-106)

>

> Best regards,

>

> tw

>

> , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri Anant Raichur,

> >

> > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be

> promised

> > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Tin Win

> >

> > , anant raichur <anant_1608>

> > wrote:

> > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and 1st.

> > Mangalya (esp

> > > of

> > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it has

> to

> > do with

> > > marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the

> longevity

> > of the

> > > married life, after marriage.

> > > good luck

> > > (

> > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear tw853,

> > > > Allow me to add,that some also consider the

> 8th

> > house as the

> > > > " maangalya-sthana " ...

> > > > lyrastro1

> > > >

> > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kpk,

> > > >

> > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of

> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

> marriage

> > since

> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th.

> > > >

> > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets,

> recent

> > KP

> > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in

> KP

> > > > Readers)

> > > >

> > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to

> > reunion.

> > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for

> > considering

> > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and

> > discord

> > > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage,

> e.g.

> > in

> > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets)

> and

> > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale

> taking

> > 8th

> > > > in judging whether marriage is promised?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > > , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010>

> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that

> > the 7th

> > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars.

> He

> > is

> > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own

> Sub.

> > He is

> > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4

> > > > Planets

> > > > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon,

> Mars

> > and

> > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub.

> Let

> > me

> > > > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by

> one.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is

> > considered

> > > > > weak to give result)

> > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO

> > PLANETS IN

> > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE

> HOUSES)

> > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect)

> > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect)

> Cusp

> > Sub

> > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY

> > > > POWERFUL

> > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

> > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN

> HIS

> > > > STARS

> > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES)

> > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not

> been

> > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results

> since

> > they

> > > > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any

> other

> > > > Planets

> > > > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word

> `shadow'

> > > > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe

> > anything

> > > > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly

> > > > understand

> > > > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets

> > since

> > > > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon.

> > Under

> > > > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp,

> > that too

> > > > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to

> > fathom as

> > > > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his

> > Stars

> > > > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will

> > definitely

> > > > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen

> > above

> > > > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this

> Rahu

> > has

> > > > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving

> him

> > > > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that

> > signification

> > > > of

> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

> marriage

> > since

> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE

> > SRI

> > > > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that

> unless

> > the

> > > > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can

> > straightaway

> > > > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all

> in

> > his

> > > > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp

> Sub

> > Lord,

> > > > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there

> > are no

> > > > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will

>

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Yes, Sir,

That is why I've gone through not only the STAR LORD but also SUB

Lord of this Sublord in my " Case Study I, Timing of Marriage " (Msg

#21338).

Here I quote only the basic idea and details are explained in the KP

Reader after this idea.

tw

, anant raichur <anant_1608>

wrote:

> This is where the so called 4 step theory comes. We not only

consider the Sub

> Lord but go further and consider the STAR LORD of this Sublord.

> --- tw853 <tw853> wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear KPK,

> >

> > Please take my comments just for keeping Guruji KSK's originals

for

> > KP learners like me. One more ---

> >

> > >>But GURUJI LATE SRI K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM,

mostly

> > >>ruled that unless the 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7

or

> > >>11, we can > straightaway decide that for such a person there

will

> > >>no marriage at all in his life time.

> >

> > As per KP, marriage is denied (Grapes are sour.) when 7th cusp

> > sublord is deposietd in the star of the significators of 4,6 and

10

> > houses because 12th to 2,7, & 11 (for marriage) indicates the

denial of

> > marriage and 4th (12th to 5) indicates failure in love affairs

and

> > also denial of children. (KP Reader IV, 1984, pp 105-106)

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Anant Raichur,

> > >

> > > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be

> > promised

> > > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > >

> > > Tin Win

> > >

> > > , anant raichur

<anant_1608>

> > > wrote:

> > > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and

1st.

> > > Mangalya (esp

> > > > of

> > > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it

has

> > to

> > > do with

> > > > marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the

> > longevity

> > > of the

> > > > married life, after marriage.

> > > > good luck

> > > > (

> > > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear tw853,

> > > > > Allow me to add,that some also consider

the

> > 8th

> > > house as the

> > > > > " maangalya-sthana " ...

> > > > > lyrastro1

> > > > >

> > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Kpk,

> > > > >

> > > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification

of

> > > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

> > marriage

> > > since

> > > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets,

> > recent

> > > KP

> > > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not

in

> > KP

> > > > > Readers)

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to

> > > reunion.

> > > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for

> > > considering

> > > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony

and

> > > discord

> > > > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for

marriage,

> > e.g.

> > > in

> > > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of

Planets)

> > and

> > > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale

> > taking

> > > 8th

> > > > > in judging whether marriage is promised?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > tw

> > > > >

> > > > > , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen

that

> > > the 7th

> > > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and

Mars.

> > He

> > > is

> > > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own

> > Sub.

> > > He is

> > > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all

these 4

> > > > > Planets

> > > > > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun,

Moon,

> > Mars

> > > and

> > > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own

Sub.

> > Let

> > > me

> > > > > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one

by

> > one.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is

> > > considered

> > > > > > weak to give result)

> > > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO

> > > PLANETS IN

> > > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE

> > HOUSES)

> > > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect)

> > > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect)

> > Cusp

> > > Sub

> > > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE

VERY

> > > > > POWERFUL

> > > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

> > > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS

IN

> > HIS

> > > > > STARS

> > > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO

HOUSES)

> > > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has

not

> > been

> > > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results

> > since

> > > they

> > > > > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any

> > other

> > > > > Planets

> > > > > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word

> > `shadow'

> > > > > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe

> > > anything

> > > > > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to

clearly

> > > > > understand

> > > > > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as

Planets

> > > since

> > > > > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and

Moon.

> > > Under

> > > > > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th

Cusp,

> > > that too

> > > > > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty

to

> > > fathom as

> > > > > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in

his

> > > Stars

> > > > > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will

> > > definitely

> > > > > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have

seen

> > > above

> > > > > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this

> > Rahu

> > > has

> > > > > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for

giving

> > him

> > > > > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that

> > > signification

> > > > > of

> > > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

> > marriage

> > > since

> > > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI

LATE

> > > SRI

> > > > > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that

> > unless

> > > the

> > > > > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can

> > > straightaway

> > > > > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at

all

> > in

> > > his

> > > > > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th

Cusp

> > Sub

> > > Lord,

> > > > > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since

there

> > > are no

> > > > > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage

will

> >

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> A.R.Raichur bombay

> anant_1608

> raichuranant

> USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY

> tel: 022-2506 2609

> ---------

>

March 2, 2005

I have also seen that in many cases when the sub of

7th is strong significator of 5th and

8th(i.e.Partner's 2nd and 11th house)the marriage

takes place even if sub of 7th has no connection with

2,7,11.

--- anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote:

> This is where the so called 4 step theory comes. We

> not only consider the Sub

> Lord but go further and consider the STAR LORD of

> this Sublord.

> --- tw853 <tw853 wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear KPK,

> >

> > Please take my comments just for keeping Guruji

> KSK's originals for

> > KP learners like me. One more ---

> >

> > >>But GURUJI LATE SRI K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS

> KP SYSTEM, mostly

> > >>ruled that unless the 7th Cusp Sub Lord

> signifies either 2, 7 or

> > >>11, we can > straightaway decide that for such a

> person there will

> > >>no marriage at all in his life time.

> >

> > As per KP, marriage is denied (Grapes are sour.)

> when 7th cusp

> > sublord is deposietd in the star of the

> significators of 4,6 and 10

> > houses because 12th to 2,7, & 11 (for marriage)

> indicates the denial of

> > marriage and 4th (12th to 5) indicates failure in

> love affairs and

> > also denial of children. (KP Reader IV, 1984, pp

> 105-106)

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , " tw853 "

> <tw853> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Anant Raichur,

> > >

> > > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how

> marriage can be

> > promised

> > > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp

> sublord.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > >

> > > Tin Win

> > >

> > > , anant raichur

> <anant_1608>

> > > wrote:

> > > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along

> with 3rd and 1st.

> > > Mangalya (esp

> > > > of

> > > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I

> do not think it has

> > to

> > > do with

> > > > marriage, though, one may take taht into

> considering the

> > longevity

> > > of the

> > > > married life, after marriage.

> > > > good luck

> > > > (

> > > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear tw853,

> > > > > Allow me to add,that some

> also consider the

> > 8th

> > > house as the

> > > > > " maangalya-sthana " ...

> > > > > lyrastro1

> > > > >

> > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Kpk,

> > > > >

> > > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of

> that signification of

> > > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord

> can also give

> > marriage

> > > since

> > > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to

> 7th.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in

> Astrosecrets,

> > recent

> > > KP

> > > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature.

> (Of course not in

> > KP

> > > > > Readers)

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers

> with regard to

> > > reunion.

> > > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is

> favorable for

> > > considering

> > > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of

> quarrel, disharmony and

> > > discord

> > > > > in married live), which is treated

> unfavorable for marriage,

> > e.g.

> > > in

> > > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under

> Behavor of Planets)

> > and

> > > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be

> the rationale

> > taking

> > > 8th

> > > > > in judging whether marriage is promised?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > tw

> > > > >

> > > > > , " kpk3010 "

> <kpk3010>

> > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the Chart prepared as per

> K.P.Principles, it is seen that

> > > the 7th

> > > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by

> Sun, Moon and Mars.

> > He

> > > is

> > > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he

> (Rahu) is in his own

> > Sub.

> > > He is

> > > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to

> examine all these 4

> > > > > Planets

> > > > > > closely to find an answer to the question

> viz., Sun, Moon,

> > Mars

> > > and

> > > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who

> is in his own Sub.

> > Let

> > > me

> > > > > > tabulate below the significations of these

> Planets, one by

> > one.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through

> aspect which is

> > > considered

> > > > > > weak to give result)

> > > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3

> and 12 with NO

> > > PLANETS IN

> > > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE

> RESULT OF TRHESE

> > HOUSES)

> > > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11

> through aspect)

> > > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10

> through aspect)

> > Cusp

> > > Sub

> > > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS

> STARS AND HENCE VERY

> > > > > POWERFUL

> > > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

> > > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8

> with NO PLANETS IN

> > HIS

> > > > > STARS

> > > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF

> THESE TWO HOUSES)

> > > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP

> Rahu/Kethu has not

> > been

> > > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of

> giving results

>

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March 2, 2005

Dear Balaji G.krishnan,

>> 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or

>>under compulsion and benefiting the other party.

1. Th main issue is 8th may not a sigificator for marriage in KP

since among others it also indicates delay in marriage. (KP Reader

IV, p 138)

2. It may be difficult to take the 8th as a really very good bhava

for 7th matters with its clear indication of disharmony and quarrel,

torchored or insulted or having painful experiences in married life

without possibility of separation, and maraka of spouse which may not

allow to enjoy the native positive aspects of 8th. (If the 7th CSL is

linked with 5 & 8 houses, both husband and wife would cause

disrespects to mutually spoil their name and fame. K. Baskaran:

Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, p 130)

Best regards,

tw

, " Balaji G.krishnan "

<balaji_g_krishnan> wrote:

> Dear all,

>

> Also,please admit me to add few more sentences.This 8th Bhava is

having a lot of matters related to marriage from different angles

which are positive and more of negative for the native.

>

> 1.8TH is 2nd to the 7th bhava which denotes family of the life

partner,money of the life partner,sexual instincts,dowry or luck to

the life partner,etc.

>

> 2.So 8th signification by 7th CSL is good for 7th bhava but for 5th

bhava it is bad. So if the marriage is love marriage it shows tension

and conflicts.Ofcourse even it might be secret marriage like register

marriage wherein elders consent of both parties is missing.It also

indicates marriage under compulsion or force.But 5th CSL indicating

8th is bad and it shows disgrace,humiliation and painful incidences

in life.Ofcourse insult from children or painful incidences from

children.Loss of knowledge or wisdom.etc..

>

> 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or

under compulsion and benefiting the other party.It is really a very

good bhava for 7th matters as Guruji has explained in the Fourth

reader page no.154,8th denotes disharmony and quarrel .but not for

seperation and to experience difficulty.

>

> In most of the charts of brides who are all torchored or insulted

or having painful experiences in married life,this 8th signification

will be there.

>

> Dear K.P friends Pls verify this or share your opinions here.

>

> Thanks

> Balaji Gopalakrishnan

> Chennai-4

> +98840 47760.

>

> Dear Shri Anant Raichur,

>

> I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be

promised

> by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Tin Win

>

> , anant raichur <anant_1608>

> wrote:

> > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and 1st.

> Mangalya (esp

> > of

> > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it has

to

> do with

> > marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the

longevity

> of the

> > married life, after marriage.

> > good luck

> > (

> > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear tw853,

> > > Allow me to add,that some also consider the

8th

> house as the

> > > " maangalya-sthana " ...

> > > lyrastro1

> > >

> > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Kpk,

> > >

> > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of

> > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

marriage

> since

> > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th.

> > >

> > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets,

recent

> KP

> > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in

KP

> > > Readers)

> > >

> > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to

> reunion.

> > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for

> considering

> > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and

> discord

> > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage,

e.g.

> in

> > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets)

and

> > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale

taking

> 8th

> > > in judging whether marriage is promised?

> > >

> > > Thanks and regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010>

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that

> the 7th

> > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars.

He

> is

> > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own

Sub.

> He is

> > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4

> > > Planets

> > > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon,

Mars

> and

> > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub.

Let

> me

> > > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by

one.

> > > >

> > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is

> considered

> > > > weak to give result)

> > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO

> PLANETS IN

> > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE

HOUSES)

> > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect)

> > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect)

Cusp

> Sub

> > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY

> > > POWERFUL

> > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

> > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN

HIS

> > > STARS

> > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES)

> > > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not

been

> > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results

since

> they

> > > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any

other

> > > Planets

> > > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word

`shadow'

> > > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe

> anything

> > > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly

> > > understand

> > > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets

> since

> > > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon.

> Under

> > > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp,

> that too

> > > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to

> fathom as

> > > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his

> Stars

> > > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will

> definitely

> > > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen

> above

> > > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this

Rahu

> has

> > > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving

him

> > > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that

> signification

> > > of

> > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

marriage

> since

> > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE

> SRI

> > > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that

unless

> the

> > > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can

> straightaway

> > > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all

in

> his

> > > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp

Sub

> Lord,

> > > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there

> are no

> > > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will

> > > definitely

> > > > be there for this person.

> > > >

> > > > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in

> operation on

> > > > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are

> > > MERCURY

> > > > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS.

> > > >

> > > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu.

> Though

> > > > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub

Lord

> is

> > > very

> > > > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed

in

> > > detail

> > > > above.

> > > >

> > > > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of

> Mercury

> > > the

> > > > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably

> placed

> > > the

> > > > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that

this

> > > Venus

> > > > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is

the

> > > KARAKA

> > > > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub

of

> > > > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen.

> > > >

> > > > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will

> definitely

> > > > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for

this

> Venus

> > > > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to

> the

> > > 7th,

> > > > his would be wife.

> > > >

> > > > Kpk3010

> > > >

> > > > , sathish kumar

> > > > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote:

> > > > > Guruji,

> > > > >

> > > > > my question is :

> > > > > this person is not yet married and no relationship with

> any

> > > girl

> > > > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house

> cancer

> > > > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who

is

> > > > posited in 12 house

> > > > >

> > > > > dob: 22-09-1972

> > > > > time: 15:12

> > > > > place: bangalore

> > > > >

> > > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004

> > > > >

> > > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it

is

> so

> > > > (technically)

> > > > >

> > > > > plz tell why it is so

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > >

> > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

> > >

March 2, 2005

Dear tw

In system aprroch they consider 8H .(regarding marriage)

regards

kanak bosmia

>"tw853" <tw853

>

> Re: From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard

>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 05:46:51 -0000

>

>Dear Balaji G.krishnan,

>

> >> 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or

> >>under compulsion and benefiting the other party.

>

>1. Th main issue is 8th may not a sigificator for marriage in KP

>since among others it also indicates delay in marriage. (KP Reader

>IV, p 138)

>

>2. It may be difficult to take the 8th as a really very good bhava

>for 7th matters with its clear indication of disharmony and quarrel,

>torchored or insulted or having painful experiences in married life

>without possibility of separation, and maraka of spouse which may not

>allow to enjoy the native positive aspects of 8th. (If the 7th CSL is

>linked with 5 & 8 houses, both husband and wife would cause

>disrespects to mutually spoil their name and fame. K. Baskaran:

>Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, p 130)

>

>Best regards,

>

>tw

>

> , "Balaji G.krishnan"

><balaji_g_krishnan> wrote:

> > Dear all,

> >

> > Also,please admit me to add few more sentences.This 8th Bhava is

>having a lot of matters related to marriage from different angles

>which are positive and more of negative for the native.

> >

> > 1.8TH is 2nd to the 7th bhava which denotes family of the life

>partner,money of the life partner,sexual instincts,dowry or luck to

>the life partner,etc.

> >

> > 2.So 8th signification by 7th CSL is good for 7th bhava but for 5th

>bhava it is bad. So if the marriage is love marriage it shows tension

>and conflicts.Ofcourse even it might be secret marriage like register

>marriage wherein elders consent of both parties is missing.It also

>indicates marriage under compulsion or force.But 5th CSL indicating

>8th is bad and it shows disgrace,humiliation and painful incidences

>in life.Ofcourse insult from children or painful incidences from

>children.Loss of knowledge or wisdom.etc..

> >

> > 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or

>under compulsion and benefiting the other party.It is really a very

>good bhava for 7th matters as Guruji has explained in the Fourth

>reader page no.154,8th denotes disharmony and quarrel .but not for

>seperation and to experience difficulty.

> >

> > In most of the charts of brides who are all torchored or insulted

>or having painful experiences in married life,this 8th signification

>will be there.

> >

> > Dear K.P friends Pls verify this or share your opinions here.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Balaji Gopalakrishnan

> > Chennai-4

> > +98840 47760.

> >

> > Dear Shri Anant Raichur,

> >

> > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be

>promised

> > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord.

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Tin Win

> >

> > , anant raichur <anant_1608>

> > wrote:

> > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and 1st.

> > Mangalya (esp

> > > of

> > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it has

>to

> > do with

> > > marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the

>longevity

> > of the

> > > married life, after marriage.

> > > good luck

> > > (

> > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear tw853,

> > > > Allow me to add,that some also consider the

>8th

> > house as the

> > > > "maangalya-sthana"...

> > > > lyrastro1

> > > >

> > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Kpk,

> > > >

> > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of

> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

>marriage

> > since

> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th.

> > > >

> > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets,

>recent

> > KP

> > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in

>KP

> > > > Readers)

> > > >

> > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to

> > reunion.

> > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for

> > considering

> > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and

> > discord

> > > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage,

>e.g.

> > in

> > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets)

>and

> > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale

>taking

> > 8th

> > > > in judging whether marriage is promised?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > > , "kpk3010" <kpk3010>

>wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that

> > the 7th

> > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars.

>He

> > is

> > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own

>Sub.

> > He is

> > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4

> > > > Planets

> > > > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon,

>Mars

> > and

> > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub.

>Let

> > me

> > > > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by

>one.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is

> > considered

> > > > > weak to give result)

> > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO

> > PLANETS IN

> > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE

>HOUSES)

> > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect)

> > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect)

>Cusp

> > Sub

> > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY

> > > > POWERFUL

> > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

> > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN

>HIS

> > > > STARS

> > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES)

> > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not

>been

> > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results

>since

> > they

> > > > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any

>other

> > > > Planets

> > > > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word

>`shadow'

> > > > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe

> > anything

> > > > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly

> > > > understand

> > > > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets

> > since

> > > > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon.

> > Under

> > > > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp,

> > that too

> > > > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to

> > fathom as

> > > > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his

> > Stars

> > > > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will

> > definitely

> > > > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen

> > above

> > > > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this

>Rahu

> > has

> > > > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving

>him

> > > > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that

> > signification

> > > > of

> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

>marriage

> > since

> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE

> > SRI

> > > > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that

>unless

> > the

> > > > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can

> > straightaway

> > > > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all

>in

> > his

> > > > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp

>Sub

> > Lord,

> > > > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there

> > are no

> > > > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will

> > > > definitely

> > > > > be there for this person.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in

> > operation on

> > > > > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are

> > > > MERCURY

> > > > > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu.

> > Though

> > > > > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub

>Lord

> > is

> > > > very

> > > > > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed

>in

> > > > detail

> > > > > above.

> > > > >

> > > > > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of

> > Mercury

> > > > the

> > > > > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably

> > placed

> > > > the

> > > > > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that

>this

> > > > Venus

> > > > > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is

>the

> > > > KARAKA

> > > > > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub

>of

> > > > > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will

> > definitely

> > > > > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for

>this

> > Venus

> > > > > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to

> > the

> > > > 7th,

> > > > > his would be wife.

> > > > >

> > > > > Kpk3010

> > > > >

> > > > > , sathish kumar

> > > > > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote:

> > > > > > Guruji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > my question is :

> > > > > > this person is not yet married and no relationship with

> > any

> > > > girl

> > > > > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house

> > cancer

> > > > > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who

>is

> > > > > posited in 12 house

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dob: 22-09-1972

> > > > > > time: 15:12

> > > > > > place: bangalore

> > > > > >

> > > > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004

> > > > > >

> > > > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it

>is

> > so

> > > > > (technically)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > plz tell why it is so

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

> > > >

March 2, 2005

Dear Kanak,

You're right and Ron also mentioned before that 8th (as a house of

sexual enjoyment/martial life) is a siggnificator for marriage in SA;

my point but not in KP.

You may be aware of how, with what assumptions and in which order of

so many significators 8th has been taken for marriage as mentioned in

Msg #2298 and shown below.

Best regrds,

tw

P.S.

1. It's right that as per PROF. CHAUDHRY 's Systems Approach- SA

(SAMVA · Systems Approach to Mundane Vedic Astrology, Members: 421,

Created: Nov 28, 2000; V.K. Choudhry: " Systems' Approach For

Interpreting Horoscopes " , 2002, pp 125-126, p 219, p 230; V.K.

Choudhry: " How to Study Divisional Charts " , 2001, p 132; V. K.

Choudhry, K. Rajesh Chaudhry: " How To Analyse Married Life " , 2002, p

29; David Hawthorne,V.K. Choudhry: " Astrology for Life " , 2000, p 114,

http://www.yournetastrologer.com/appli/a04.htm), 8th house is one of

many MARRIAGE SIGNIFICATORS as follows.

(1) The lord of the seventh house. In case there is no mooltrikona

sign in the seventh house, then the lord of the houses signifying

marriage (the second, fourth, eighth or twelfth house containing

mooltrikona sign) are considered. <family life (2nd), bed comforts

(12th), self-health (1st), sexual enjoyment/martial life (8th),

progeny (5th) and general happiness of life (4th)> For various

ascendants, besides the significator for marriage, the following

planets are prime determinant of marriage:- Aries for Asc

Venus, Taurus –Sun, Gemini --Jupiter, Cancer--- Sun, Leo - -

Saturn, Virgo - -Venus, Libra - -Mars, Scorpio -- -Jupiter,

Sagittarius---Moon, Capricorn - - -Moon, Aquarius --Sun, Pisces - -

Mercury.

(2) Venus and Jupiter are significators of marriage for males and

females respectively. Marriage can also take place in the sub-periods

of the strong planets placed in the houses signifying marriage. These

planets become secondary significators of marriage. If the prime

determinants and the significator of marriage are strong and there is

no affliction to the most effective points of the houses signifying

marriage, the marriage takes place at the appropriate time. The good

strength of Venus hastens the process. The delay is caused by: (a)

The close influence of the functional malefic planets or the most

malefic planet on the prime determinants for marriage; (b)

Significator of marriage being weak or badly placed and/or afflicted

by the most malefic or a functional malefic planet. © When the prime

determinants and secondary significators are weak and/or are

afflicted. (d) When the lords of the eighth and/or twelfth houses

containing a mooltrikona sign are weak, badly placed and are

afflicted. The influence of the functional malefic planets delays

while the influence of the most malefic planet (MMP) delays

inordinately and/or denies. The malefic influence of the MMP cannot

be mellowed without persistent performance of the appropriate astral

remedies. If there is a mooltrikona sign in the eighth house from

the ascendant, its lord is called MMP. In case there is no

mooltrikona sign in the eighth house, then the role of the MMP is

played by the lord of the twelfth house containing the mooltrikona

sign. In case there is no mooltrikona sign in the twelfth house, as

well, then the role of the MMP is played by Ketu.

, " Kanakkumar Bosmia "

<kanbosastro@h...> wrote:

>

March 2, 2005

Dear Sunil Joshi,

5th (love affair, recreation and pleasure) is favorable for marriage

but 8th indicates delay in marriage (KP Reader IV, p 138). Is there

any interesting experience as regards to, " If the 7th CSL is linked

with 5 & 8 houses, both husband and wife would cause disrespects to

mutually spoil their name and fame. (K. Baskaran: Principles of

Cuspal Interlinks, p 130)? "

Best regards,

tw

, Sunil Joshi <suniljoshi80>

wrote:

>

> I have also seen that in many cases when the sub of

> 7th is strong significator of 5th and

> 8th(i.e.Partner's 2nd and 11th house)the marriage

> takes place even if sub of 7th has no connection with

> 2,7,11.

> --- anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote:

>

> > This is where the so called 4 step theory comes. We

> > not only consider the Sub

> > Lord but go further and consider the STAR LORD of

> > this Sublord.

> > --- tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Dear KPK,

> > >

> > > Please take my comments just for keeping Guruji

> > KSK's originals for

> > > KP learners like me. One more ---

> > >

> > > >>But GURUJI LATE SRI K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS

> > KP SYSTEM, mostly

> > > >>ruled that unless the 7th Cusp Sub Lord

> > signifies either 2, 7 or

> > > >>11, we can > straightaway decide that for such a

> > person there will

> > > >>no marriage at all in his life time.

> > >

> > > As per KP, marriage is denied (Grapes are sour.)

> > when 7th cusp

> > > sublord is deposietd in the star of the

> > significators of 4,6 and 10

> > > houses because 12th to 2,7, & 11 (for marriage)

> > indicates the denial of

> > > marriage and 4th (12th to 5) indicates failure in

> > love affairs and

> > > also denial of children. (KP Reader IV, 1984, pp

> > 105-106)

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > , " tw853 "

> > <tw853> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shri Anant Raichur,

> > > >

> > > > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how

> > marriage can be

> > > promised

> > > > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp

> > sublord.

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > >

> > > > Tin Win

> > > >

> > > > , anant raichur

> > <anant_1608>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along

> > with 3rd and 1st.

> > > > Mangalya (esp

> > > > > of

> > > > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I

> > do not think it has

> > > to

> > > > do with

> > > > > marriage, though, one may take taht into

> > considering the

> > > longevity

> > > > of the

> > > > > married life, after marriage.

> > > > > good luck

> > > > > (

> > > > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear tw853,

> > > > > > Allow me to add,that some

> > also consider the

> > > 8th

> > > > house as the

> > > > > > " maangalya-sthana " ...

> > > > > > lyrastro1

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Kpk,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of

> > that signification of

> > > > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord

> > can also give

> > > marriage

> > > > since

> > > > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to

> > 7th.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in

> > Astrosecrets,

> > > recent

> > > > KP

> > > > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature.

> > (Of course not in

> > > KP

> > > > > > Readers)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers

> > with regard to

> > > > reunion.

> > > > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is

> > favorable for

> > > > considering

> > > > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of

> > quarrel, disharmony and

> > > > discord

> > > > > > in married live), which is treated

> > unfavorable for marriage,

> > > e.g.

> > > > in

> > > > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under

> > Behavor of Planets)

> > > and

> > > > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be

> > the rationale

> > > taking

> > > > 8th

> > > > > > in judging whether marriage is promised?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tw

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " kpk3010 "

> > <kpk3010>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In the Chart prepared as per

> > K.P.Principles, it is seen that

> > > > the 7th

> > > > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by

> > Sun, Moon and Mars.

> > > He

> > > > is

> > > > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he

> > (Rahu) is in his own

> > > Sub.

> > > > He is

> > > > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to

> > examine all these 4

> > > > > > Planets

> > > > > > > closely to find an answer to the question

> > viz., Sun, Moon,

> > > Mars

> > > > and

> > > > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who

> > is in his own Sub.

> > > Let

> > > > me

> > > > > > > tabulate below the significations of these

> > Planets, one by

> > > one.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through

> > aspect which is

> > > > considered

> > > > > > > weak to give result)

> > > > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3

> > and 12 with NO

> > > > PLANETS IN

> > > > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE

> > RESULT OF TRHESE

> > > HOUSES)

> > > > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11

> > through aspect)

> > > > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10

> > through aspect)

> > > Cusp

> > > > Sub

> > > > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS

> > STARS AND HENCE VERY

> > > > > > POWERFUL

> > > > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

> > > > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8

> > with NO PLANETS IN

> > > HIS

> > > > > > STARS

> > > > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF

> > THESE TWO HOUSES)

> > > > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP

> > Rahu/Kethu has not

> > > been

> > > > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of

> > giving results

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

March 2, 2005

Dear Sunil Joshi,

Further to my comment below, one coincidence has been noticed that

all Ra/Ve/Ju/Me DBAS for July 20, 1986 for KPBC10 are signifing 5th &

8th houses to wait and see whether the native got married for the 1st

time. (In addition, 2nd is also indicated in D & S and 7th in D & B

since Bhukti lord marriage karaka Venus giving 7th effect by ORB

theory which is also interesting how it works in this case.)

Best regards,

tw

KPBC105 th & 8 th are significant

, " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil Joshi,

>

> 5th (love affair, recreation and pleasure) is favorable for

marriage

> but 8th indicates delay in marriage (KP Reader IV, p 138). Is there

> any interesting experience as regards to, " If the 7th CSL is linked

> with 5 & 8 houses, both husband and wife would cause disrespects to

> mutually spoil their name and fame. (K. Baskaran: Principles of

> Cuspal Interlinks, p 130)? "

>

> Best regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Sunil Joshi <suniljoshi80>

> wrote:

> >

> > I have also seen that in many cases when the sub of

> > 7th is strong significator of 5th and

> > 8th(i.e.Partner's 2nd and 11th house)the marriage

> > takes place even if sub of 7th has no connection with

> > 2,7,11.

> > --- anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote:

> >

> > > This is where the so called 4 step theory comes. We

> > > not only consider the Sub

> > > Lord but go further and consider the STAR LORD of

> > > this Sublord.

> > > --- tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear KPK,

> > > >

> > > > Please take my comments just for keeping Guruji

> > > KSK's originals for

> > > > KP learners like me. One more ---

> > > >

> > > > >>But GURUJI LATE SRI K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS

> > > KP SYSTEM, mostly

> > > > >>ruled that unless the 7th Cusp Sub Lord

> > > signifies either 2, 7 or

> > > > >>11, we can > straightaway decide that for such a

> > > person there will

> > > > >>no marriage at all in his life time.

> > > >

> > > > As per KP, marriage is denied (Grapes are sour.)

> > > when 7th cusp

> > > > sublord is deposietd in the star of the

> > > significators of 4,6 and 10

> > > > houses because 12th to 2,7, & 11 (for marriage)

> > > indicates the denial of

> > > > marriage and 4th (12th to 5) indicates failure in

> > > love affairs and

> > > > also denial of children. (KP Reader IV, 1984, pp

> > > 105-106)

> > > >

> > > > Best regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > > , " tw853 "

> > > <tw853> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Shri Anant Raichur,

> > > > >

> > > > > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how

> > > marriage can be

> > > > promised

> > > > > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp

> > > sublord.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Tin Win

> > > > >

> > > > > , anant raichur

> > > <anant_1608>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along

> > > with 3rd and 1st.

> > > > > Mangalya (esp

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I

> > > do not think it has

> > > > to

> > > > > do with

> > > > > > marriage, though, one may take taht into

> > > considering the

> > > > longevity

> > > > > of the

> > > > > > married life, after marriage.

> > > > > > good luck

> > > > > > (

> > > > > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear tw853,

> > > > > > > Allow me to add,that some

> > > also consider the

> > > > 8th

> > > > > house as the

> > > > > > > " maangalya-sthana " ...

> > > > > > > lyrastro1

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Kpk,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of

> > > that signification of

> > > > > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord

> > > can also give

> > > > marriage

> > > > > since

> > > > > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to

> > > 7th.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in

> > > Astrosecrets,

> > > > recent

> > > > > KP

> > > > > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature.

> > > (Of course not in

> > > > KP

> > > > > > > Readers)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers

> > > with regard to

> > > > > reunion.

> > > > > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is

> > > favorable for

> > > > > considering

> > > > > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of

> > > quarrel, disharmony and

> > > > > discord

> > > > > > > in married live), which is treated

> > > unfavorable for marriage,

> > > > e.g.

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under

> > > Behavor of Planets)

> > > > and

> > > > > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be

> > > the rationale

> > > > taking

> > > > > 8th

> > > > > > > in judging whether marriage is promised?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > tw

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , " kpk3010 "

> > > <kpk3010>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In the Chart prepared as per

> > > K.P.Principles, it is seen that

> > > > > the 7th

> > > > > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by

> > > Sun, Moon and Mars.

> > > > He

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he

> > > (Rahu) is in his own

> > > > Sub.

> > > > > He is

> > > > > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to

> > > examine all these 4

> > > > > > > Planets

> > > > > > > > closely to find an answer to the question

> > > viz., Sun, Moon,

> > > > Mars

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who

> > > is in his own Sub.

> > > > Let

> > > > > me

> > > > > > > > tabulate below the significations of these

> > > Planets, one by

> > > > one.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through

> > > aspect which is

> > > > > considered

> > > > > > > > weak to give result)

> > > > > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3

> > > and 12 with NO

> > > > > PLANETS IN

> > > > > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE

> > > RESULT OF TRHESE

> > > > HOUSES)

> > > > > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11

> > > through aspect)

> > > > > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10

> > > through aspect)

> > > > Cusp

> > > > > Sub

> > > > > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS

> > > STARS AND HENCE VERY

> > > > > > > POWERFUL

> > > > > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

> > > > > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8

> > > with NO PLANETS IN

> > > > HIS

> > > > > > > STARS

> > > > > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF

> > > THESE TWO HOUSES)

> > > > > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP

> > > Rahu/Kethu has not

> > > > been

> > > > > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of

> > > giving results

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

> >

March 3, 2005

Dear Groupies,

You have stated that there has to be connection of 2,7 or 11 for marriage. But in one couple's horoscopes that I have studied, marriage took place even though the 7th subs were not connected with these houses but in fact connected to 6th house and the marriage is a happy one. The details are

FemaleDate of birth 12.05.1959Time of birth 05.38 amPlace Bombay7th Sub lord - Moon 2/4 Rahu 3/3,6

MaleDate of birth 28.11.1961Time of birth 06.45 pmPlace New Delhi7th Sub lord - Moon 3/3 Mercury 6/1,2,5

Date of marriage 16.02.1987

Please can you explain? Am I going wrong somewhere?

sundry1990

Kanakkumar Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote:

Dear tw

In system aprroch they consider 8H .(regarding marriage)

regards

kanak bosmia

>"tw853" <tw853 > > > Re: From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard >Wed, 02 Mar 2005 05:46:51 -0000 > > >Dear Balaji G.krishnan, > > >> 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or > >>under compulsion and benefiting the other party. > > >1. Th main issue is 8th may not a sigificator for marriage in KP >since among others it also indicates delay in marriage. (KP Reader >IV, p 138) > >2. It may be difficult to take the 8th as a really very good bhava >for 7th matters with its clear indication of disharmony and quarrel, >torchored or insulted or having painful experiences in married life >without possibility of separation, and maraka of spouse which may not >allow to enjoy the native positive aspects of 8th. (If the 7th CSL is >linked with 5 & 8 houses, both husband and wife would cause >disrespects to mutually spoil their name and fame. K. Baskaran: >Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, p 130) > >Best regards, > > >tw > > > , "Balaji G.krishnan" ><balaji_g_krishnan> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Also,please admit me to add few more sentences.This 8th Bhava is >having a lot of matters related to marriage from different angles >which are positive and more of negative for the native. > > > > 1.8TH is 2nd to the 7th bhava which denotes family of the life >partner,money of the life partner,sexual instincts,dowry or luck to >the life partner,etc. > > > > 2.So 8th signification by 7th CSL is good for 7th bhava but for 5th >bhava it is bad. So if the marriage is love marriage it shows tension >and conflicts.Ofcourse even it might be secret marriage like register >marriage wherein elders consent of both parties is missing.It also >indicates marriage under compulsion or force.But 5th CSL indicating >8th is bad and it shows disgrace,humiliation and painful incidences >in life.Ofcourse insult from children or painful incidences from >children.Loss of knowledge or wisdom.etc.. > > > > 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or >under compulsion and benefiting the other party.It is really a very >good bhava for 7th matters as Guruji has explained in the Fourth >reader page no.154,8th denotes disharmony and quarrel .but not for >seperation and to experience difficulty. > > > > In most of the charts of brides who are all torchored or insulted >or having painful experiences in married life,this 8th signification >will be there. > > > > Dear K.P friends Pls verify this or share your opinions here. > > > > Thanks > > Balaji Gopalakrishnan > > Chennai-4 > > +98840 47760. > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Anant Raichur, > > > > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be >promised > > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord. > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > , anant raichur <anant_1608> > > wrote: > > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and 1st. > > Mangalya (esp > > > of > > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it has >to > > do with > > > marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the >longevity > > of the > > > married life, after marriage. > > > good luck > > > ( > > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear tw853, > > > > Allow me to add,that some also consider the >8th > > house as the > > > > "maangalya-sthana"... > > > > lyrastro1 > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kpk, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of > > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give >marriage > > since > > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. > > > > > > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets, >recent > > KP > > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in >KP > > > > Readers) > > > > > > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to > > reunion. > > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for > > considering > > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and > > discord > > > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage, >e.g. > > in > > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets) >and > > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale >taking > > 8th > > > > in judging whether marriage is promised? > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kpk3010" <kpk3010> >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that > > the 7th > > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars. >He > > is > > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own >Sub. > > He is > > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4 > > > > Planets > > > > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon, >Mars > > and > > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub. >Let > > me > > > > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by >one. > > > > > > > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is > > considered > > > > > weak to give result) > > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO > > PLANETS IN > > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE >HOUSES) > > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect) > > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect) >Cusp > > Sub > > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY > > > > POWERFUL > > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES. > > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN >HIS > > > > STARS > > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES) > > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not >been > > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results >since > > they > > > > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any >other > > > > Planets > > > > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word >`shadow' > > > > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe > > anything > > > > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly > > > > understand > > > > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets > > since > > > > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon. > > Under > > > > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp, > > that too > > > > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to > > fathom as > > > > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his > > Stars > > > > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will > > definitely > > > > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen > > above > > > > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this >Rahu > > has > > > > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving >him > > > > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that > > signification > > > > of > > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give >marriage > > since > > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE > > SRI > > > > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that >unless > > the > > > > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can > > straightaway > > > > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all >in > > his > > > > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp >Sub > > Lord, > > > > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there > > are no > > > > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will > > > > definitely > > > > > be there for this person. > > > > > > > > > > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in > > operation on > > > > > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are > > > > MERCURY > > > > > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS. > > > > > > > > > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu. > > Though > > > > > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub >Lord > > is > > > > very > > > > > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed >in > > > > detail > > > > > above. > > > > > > > > > > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of > > Mercury > > > > the > > > > > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably > > placed > > > > the > > > > > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that >this > > > > Venus > > > > > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is >the > > > > KARAKA > > > > > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub >of > > > > > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen. > > > > > > > > > > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will > > definitely > > > > > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for >this > > Venus > > > > > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to > > the > > > > 7th, > > > > > his would be wife. > > > > > > > > > > Kpk3010 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , sathish kumar > > > > > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote: > > > > > > Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > my question is : > > > > > > this person is not yet married and no relationship with > > any > > > > girl > > > > > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house > > cancer > > > > > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who >is > > > > > posited in 12 house > > > > > > > > > > > > dob: 22-09-1972 > > > > > > time: 15:12 > > > > > > place: bangalore > > > > > > > > > > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it >is > > so > > > > > (technically) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plz tell why it is so > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

March 4, 2005

Dear Shashi Shankar,

1. In my personal view, a/ there may be exceptional horoscopes like

yours and Tony Blair & Indira Gandhi where events cannot be justified

by KP Rules or other astrological rules even though truth is one and

paths are many; b/Refering KSK's low tone (with compare to his

usually full confidence of his new ideas) in Reader III, " How far you

can rely on them (rectification methods of birth time), is left

entirely to you, --- " , they may not fit to each and every native and

changing birth time to fit events may not be a good idea since we all

may not be born with common astrological patterns like in a

mathematical formulars.

2. Let me quote again:

K S Krishnamurti, " Many general rules which should not be

strictly applied. Many modifications are to be included.---

Analytical study, correct intuition and good judgment are needed -– "

B. V. Raman, " Astrology is a subject where not only an insight

into its techniques is needed but also certain amount of

intuition. Experience can gradually make appreciate the nuances of the

predictive art. "

Anant Raichur, " prediction is not just applying rules --- IT

IS GOD WHO FINLLY DETREMINES THE RESULT " . (pasted from Msg# 1319)

Punit Pandey, " there is no clear cut method has been given to

trace the events of one's life. One has to rely heavily on his/her

own logic for predicting events. " (pasted from Msg#1312)

Best regards,

tw

, Shashi Shankar <sundry1990>

wrote:

> Dear Groupies,

> You have stated that there has to be connection of 2,7 or 11 for

marriage. But in one couple's horoscopes that I have studied,

marriage took place even though the 7th subs were not connected with

these houses but in fact connected to 6th house and the marriage is a

happy one. The details are

> Female

> Date of birth 12.05.1959

> Time of birth 05.38 am

> Place Bombay

> 7th Sub lord - Moon 2/4 Rahu 3/3,6

> Male

> Date of birth 28.11.1961

> Time of birth 06.45 pm

> Place New Delhi

> 7th Sub lord - Moon 3/3 Mercury 6/1,2,5

> Date of marriage 16.02.1987

> Please can you explain? Am I going wrong somewhere?

> sundry1990

>

> Kanakkumar Bosmia <kanbosastro@h...> wrote:

>

> Dear tw

>

> In system aprroch they consider 8H .(regarding marriage)

>

> regards

>

> kanak bosmia

>

> > " tw853 " <tw853>

> >

> > Re: From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard

> >Wed, 02 Mar 2005 05:46:51 -0000

> >

> >Dear Balaji G.krishnan,

> >

> > >> 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or

> > >>under compulsion and benefiting the other party.

> >

> >1. Th main issue is 8th may not a sigificator for marriage in KP

> >since among others it also indicates delay in marriage. (KP

Reader

> >IV, p 138)

> >

> >2. It may be difficult to take the 8th as a really very good bhava

> >for 7th matters with its clear indication of disharmony and

quarrel,

> >torchored or insulted or having painful experiences in married

life

> >without possibility of separation, and maraka of spouse which may

not

> >allow to enjoy the native positive aspects of 8th. (If the 7th CSL

is

> >linked with 5 & 8 houses, both husband and wife would cause

> >disrespects to mutually spoil their name and fame. K. Baskaran:

> >Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, p 130)

> >

> >Best regards,

> >

> >tw

> >

> > , " Balaji G.krishnan "

> ><balaji_g_krishnan> wrote:

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > Also,please admit me to add few more sentences.This 8th Bhava

is

> >having a lot of matters related to marriage from different angles

> >which are positive and more of negative for the native.

> > >

> > > 1.8TH is 2nd to the 7th bhava which denotes family of the life

> >partner,money of the life partner,sexual instincts,dowry or luck

to

> >the life partner,etc.

> > >

> > > 2.So 8th signification by 7th CSL is good for 7th bhava but for

5th

> >bhava it is bad. So if the marriage is love marriage it shows

tension

> >and conflicts.Ofcourse even it might be secret marriage like

register

> >marriage wherein elders consent of both parties is missing.It also

> >indicates marriage under compulsion or force.But 5th CSL

indicating

> >8th is bad and it shows disgrace,humiliation and painful

incidences

> >in life.Ofcourse insult from children or painful incidences from

> >children.Loss of knowledge or wisdom.etc..

> > >

> > > 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or

> >under compulsion and benefiting the other party.It is really a

very

> >good bhava for 7th matters as Guruji has explained in the Fourth

> >reader page no.154,8th denotes disharmony and quarrel .but not for

> >seperation and to experience difficulty.

> > >

> > > In most of the charts of brides who are all torchored or

insulted

> >or having painful experiences in married life,this 8th

signification

> >will be there.

> > >

> > > Dear K.P friends Pls verify this or share your opinions here.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Balaji Gopalakrishnan

> > > Chennai-4

> > > +98840 47760.

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Anant Raichur,

> > >

> > > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be

> >promised

> > > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord.

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > >

> > > Tin Win

> > >

> > > , anant raichur

<anant_1608>

> > > wrote:

> > > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and

1st.

> > > Mangalya (esp

> > > > of

> > > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it

has

> >to

> > > do with

> > > > marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the

> >longevity

> > > of the

> > > > married life, after marriage.

> > > > good luck

> > > > (

> > > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear tw853,

> > > > > Allow me to add,that some also consider

the

> >8th

> > > house as the

> > > > > " maangalya-sthana " ...

> > > > > lyrastro1

> > > > >

> > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Kpk,

> > > > >

> > > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification

of

> > > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

> >marriage

> > > since

> > > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets,

> >recent

> > > KP

> > > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not

in

> >KP

> > > > > Readers)

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to

> > > reunion.

> > > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for

> > > considering

> > > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony

and

> > > discord

> > > > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for

marriage,

> >e.g.

> > > in

> > > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of

Planets)

> >and

> > > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale

> >taking

> > > 8th

> > > > > in judging whether marriage is promised?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks and regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > tw

> > > > >

> > > > > , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010>

> >wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen

that

> > > the 7th

> > > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and

Mars.

> >He

> > > is

> > > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own

> >Sub.

> > > He is

> > > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all

these 4

> > > > > Planets

> > > > > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun,

Moon,

> >Mars

> > > and

> > > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own

Sub.

> >Let

> > > me

> > > > > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one

by

> >one.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is

> > > considered

> > > > > > weak to give result)

> > > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO

> > > PLANETS IN

> > > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE

> >HOUSES)

> > > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect)

> > > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect)

> >Cusp

> > > Sub

> > > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE

VERY

> > > > > POWERFUL

> > > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

> > > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS

IN

> >HIS

> > > > > STARS

> > > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO

HOUSES)

> > > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has

not

> >been

> > > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results

> >since

> > > they

> > > > > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any

> >other

> > > > > Planets

> > > > > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word

> >`shadow'

> > > > > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe

> > > anything

> > > > > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to

clearly

> > > > > understand

> > > > > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as

Planets

> > > since

> > > > > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and

Moon.

> > > Under

> > > > > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th

Cusp,

> > > that too

> > > > > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty

to

> > > fathom as

> > > > > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in

his

> > > Stars

> > > > > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will

> > > definitely

> > > > > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have

seen

> > > above

> > > > > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this

> >Rahu

> > > has

> > > > > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for

giving

> >him

> > > > > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that

> > > signification

> > > > > of

> > > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

> >marriage

> > > since

> > > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI

LATE

> > > SRI

> > > > > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that

> >unless

> > > the

> > > > > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can

> > > straightaway

> > > > > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at

all

> >in

> > > his

> > > > > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th

Cusp

> >Sub

> > > Lord,

> > > > > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since

there

> > > are no

> > > > > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage

will

> > > > > definitely

> > > > > > be there for this person.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in

> > > operation on

> > > > > > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They

are

> > > > > MERCURY

> > > > > > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of

Rahu.

> > > Though

> > > > > > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub

> >Lord

> > > is

> > > > > very

> > > > > > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already

discussed

> >in

> > > > > detail

> > > > > > above.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star

of

> > > Mercury

> > > > > the

> > > > > > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is

favorably

> > > placed

> > > > > the

> > > > > > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note

that

> >this

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he

is

> >the

> > > > > KARAKA

> > > > > > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and

Sub

> >of

> > > > > > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already

seen.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will

> > > definitely

> > > > > > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for

> >this

> > > Venus

> > > > > > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd

to

> > > the

> > > > > 7th,

> > > > > > his would be wife.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Kpk3010

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , sathish kumar

> > > > > > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote:

> > > > > > > Guruji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > my question is :

> > > > > > > this person is not yet married and no relationship

with

> > > any

> > > > > girl

> > > > > > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7

house

> > > cancer

> > > > > > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu

who

> >is

> > > > > > posited in 12 house

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dob: 22-09-1972

> > > > > > > time: 15:12

> > > > > > > place: bangalore

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why

it

> >is

> > > so

> > > > > > (technically)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > plz tell why it is so

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

> > > > >

March 4, 2005

Dear Shashi,

The rule you have quoted has been arrived at after being distilled with years of experience in hundreds of cases...naturally therefore, you are surely going wrong somewhere...

Check for yourself,begining with ...are you using the correct ayanamsa ? Are you using the correct Nirayana Ephemeris ? Have you cast the horoscope correctly, as per K.P. ?

Have you checked for the correctness of the horoscope...?

Pl. inform after checking...I'm confident that you have made some mistake somewhere...you will learn K.P. better,if you re-examine the chart cast by you...there is no need for any help...

With best wishes,

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !Shashi Shankar <sundry1990 wrote:

Dear Groupies,

You have stated that there has to be connection of 2,7 or 11 for marriage. But in one couple's horoscopes that I have studied, marriage took place even though the 7th subs were not connected with these houses but in fact connected to 6th house and the marriage is a happy one. The details are

FemaleDate of birth 12.05.1959Time of birth 05.38 amPlace Bombay7th Sub lord - Moon 2/4 Rahu 3/3,6

MaleDate of birth 28.11.1961Time of birth 06.45 pmPlace New Delhi7th Sub lord - Moon 3/3 Mercury 6/1,2,5

Date of marriage 16.02.1987

Please can you explain? Am I going wrong somewhere?

sundry1990

Kanakkumar Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote:

Dear tw

In system aprroch they consider 8H .(regarding marriage)

regards

kanak bosmia

>"tw853" <tw853 > > > Re: From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard >Wed, 02 Mar 2005 05:46:51 -0000 > > >Dear Balaji G.krishnan, > > >> 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or > >>under compulsion and benefiting the other party. > > >1. Th main issue is 8th may not a sigificator for marriage in KP >since among others it also indicates delay in marriage. (KP Reader >IV, p 138) > >2. It may be difficult to take the 8th as a really very good bhava >for 7th matters with its clear indication of disharmony and quarrel, >torchored or insulted or having painful experiences in married life >without possibility of separation, and maraka of spouse which may not >allow to enjoy the native positive aspects of 8th. (If the 7th CSL is >linked with 5 & 8 houses, both husband and wife would cause >disrespects to mutually spoil their name and fame. K. Baskaran: >Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, p 130) > >Best regards, > > >tw > > > , "Balaji G.krishnan" ><balaji_g_krishnan> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Also,please admit me to add few more sentences.This 8th Bhava is >having a lot of matters related to marriage from different angles >which are positive and more of negative for the native. > > > > 1.8TH is 2nd to the 7th bhava which denotes family of the life >partner,money of the life partner,sexual instincts,dowry or luck to >the life partner,etc. > > > > 2.So 8th signification by 7th CSL is good for 7th bhava but for 5th >bhava it is bad. So if the marriage is love marriage it shows tension >and conflicts.Ofcourse even it might be secret marriage like register >marriage wherein elders consent of both parties is missing.It also >indicates marriage under compulsion or force.But 5th CSL indicating >8th is bad and it shows disgrace,humiliation and painful incidences >in life.Ofcourse insult from children or painful incidences from >children.Loss of knowledge or wisdom.etc.. > > > > 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or >under compulsion and benefiting the other party.It is really a very >good bhava for 7th matters as Guruji has explained in the Fourth >reader page no.154,8th denotes disharmony and quarrel .but not for >seperation and to experience difficulty. > > > > In most of the charts of brides who are all torchored or insulted >or having painful experiences in married life,this 8th signification >will be there. > > > > Dear K.P friends Pls verify this or share your opinions here. > > > > Thanks > > Balaji Gopalakrishnan > > Chennai-4 > > +98840 47760. > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Anant Raichur, > > > > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be >promised > > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord. > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > , anant raichur <anant_1608> > > wrote: > > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and 1st. > > Mangalya (esp > > > of > > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it has >to > > do with > > > marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the >longevity > > of the > > > married life, after marriage. > > > good luck > > > ( > > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear tw853, > > > > Allow me to add,that some also consider the >8th > > house as the > > > > "maangalya-sthana"... > > > > lyrastro1 > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kpk, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of > > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give >marriage > > since > > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. > > > > > > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets, >recent > > KP > > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in >KP > > > > Readers) > > > > > > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to > > reunion. > > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for > > considering > > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and > > discord > > > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage, >e.g. > > in > > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets) >and > > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale >taking > > 8th > > > > in judging whether marriage is promised? > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kpk3010" <kpk3010> >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that > > the 7th > > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars. >He > > is > > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own >Sub. > > He is > > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4 > > > > Planets > > > > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon, >Mars > > and > > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub. >Let > > me > > > > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by >one. > > > > > > > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is > > considered > > > > > weak to give result) > > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO > > PLANETS IN > > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE >HOUSES) > > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect) > > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect) >Cusp > > Sub > > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY > > > > POWERFUL > > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES. > > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN >HIS > > > > STARS > > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES) > > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not >been > > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results >since > > they > > > > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any >other > > > > Planets > > > > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word >`shadow' > > > > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe > > anything > > > > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly > > > > understand > > > > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets > > since > > > > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon. > > Under > > > > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp, > > that too > > > > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to > > fathom as > > > > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his > > Stars > > > > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will > > definitely > > > > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen > > above > > > > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this >Rahu > > has > > > > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving >him > > > > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that > > signification > > > > of > > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give >marriage > > since > > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE > > SRI > > > > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that >unless > > the > > > > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can > > straightaway > > > > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all >in > > his > > > > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp >Sub > > Lord, > > > > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there > > are no > > > > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will > > > > definitely > > > > > be there for this person. > > > > > > > > > > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in > > operation on > > > > > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are > > > > MERCURY > > > > > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS. > > > > > > > > > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu. > > Though > > > > > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub >Lord > > is > > > > very > > > > > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed >in > > > > detail > > > > > above. > > > > > > > > > > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of > > Mercury > > > > the > > > > > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably > > placed > > > > the > > > > > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that >this > > > > Venus > > > > > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is >the > > > > KARAKA > > > > > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub >of > > > > > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen. > > > > > > > > > > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will > > definitely > > > > > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for >this > > Venus > > > > > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to > > the > > > > 7th, > > > > > his would be wife. > > > > > > > > > > Kpk3010 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , sathish kumar > > > > > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote: > > > > > > Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > my question is : > > > > > > this person is not yet married and no relationship with > > any > > > > girl > > > > > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house > > cancer > > > > > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who >is > > > > > posited in 12 house > > > > > > > > > > > > dob: 22-09-1972 > > > > > > time: 15:12 > > > > > > place: bangalore > > > > > > > > > > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it >is > > so > > > > > (technically) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plz tell why it is so > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

March 5, 2005

Dear Sashi,

In the ladies chart Jupiter is the 7th sub lord. Jupiter is

closely conjunct the 2nd Cusp signifying promise of marriage.

In the gentleman's chart Moon is the 7th sub lord. Moon is

significator of the 2nd house being in the star of Mercury.

Also Rahu closely conjuncts and is agent for Moon so is also

significator for 2nd house. Rahu also aspects the 11th house.

All these promise marriage.

The ladies chart is very instructive regarding the interplay

between the planets. But I will just cover a few points relative

to marriage. Natal Saturn opposes Moon. Moon is in the Star

of Rahu resident in the 6th house. Rahu received a direct

conjunction from the Last Solar Eclipse (SE) point on 4th Oct

1986 prior to the marriage. Natal Saturn is in the Star and Sub

of Venus Lord of the 7th house of marriage. Jupiter

significator of marriage is in the 7th house in the Star and

Sub of Saturn. Jupiter aspects Venus in the 2nd house (again

relating to marriage and family.

Looking at SE Venus we see it opposed by natal Sun. Natal Sun is

in the Star of Sun and Sub of Moon linking together the Lords of

the 4th and 5th house. This looks like a love marriage with SE

Venus in opposition. SE Venus is in the Star of Jupiter

dispositor of Saturn which as we have seen is closely tied to

significator of marriage Jupiter in the 7th house. Venus in

its ongoing transit exactly aspects natal Ascendant on the day of

marriage, confirming the birth time.

Looking at marriage significator Jupiter we see in the SE it

being in close trine aspect to the Cusp of the 7th house. On

the day of marriage it came exact trine to natal Jupiter, thus

emphasizing the event. It was the Venus transit that decided

the day.

I haven't had time to look at the gentleman's chart, but I have

no doubt that we will find similar indications.

Hope this helps.

Ron Gaunt

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:13:01 +0000 (GMT), you wrote:

>Dear Shashi,

> The rule you have quoted has been arrived at after being

distilled with years of experience in hundreds of cases...naturally therefore,

you are surely going wrong somewhere...

> Check for yourself,begining with ...are you using the correct

ayanamsa ? Are you using the correct Nirayana Ephemeris ? Have you cast the

horoscope correctly, as per K.P. ?

> Have you checked for the correctness of the horoscope...?

> Pl. inform after checking...I'm confident that you have made

some mistake somewhere...you will learn K.P. better,if you re-examine the chart

cast by you...there is no need for any help...

> With best wishes,

> Yours sincerely,

> lyrastro1

> GOOD LUCK !

>Shashi Shankar <sundry1990 wrote:

>Dear Groupies,

>You have stated that there has to be connection of 2,7 or 11 for marriage. But

in one couple's horoscopes that I have studied, marriage took place even though

the 7th subs were not connected with these houses but in fact connected to 6th

house and the marriage is a happy one. The details are

>Female

>Date of birth 12.05.1959

>Time of birth 05.38 am

>Place Bombay

>7th Sub lord - Moon 2/4 Rahu 3/3,6

>Male

>Date of birth 28.11.1961

>Time of birth 06.45 pm

>Place New Delhi

>7th Sub lord - Moon 3/3 Mercury 6/1,2,5

>Date of marriage 16.02.1987

>Please can you explain? Am I going wrong somewhere?

>sundry1990

>

>Kanakkumar Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote:

>

>Dear tw

>

>In system aprroch they consider 8H .(regarding marriage)

>

>regards

>

>kanak bosmia

>

>> " tw853 " <tw853

>>

>> Re: From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard

>>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 05:46:51 -0000

>>

>>Dear Balaji G.krishnan,

>>

>> >> 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or

>> >>under compulsion and benefiting the other party.

>>

>>1. Th main issue is 8th may not a sigificator for marriage in KP

>>since among others it also indicates delay in marriage. (KP Reader

>>IV, p 138)

>>

>>2. It may be difficult to take the 8th as a really very good bhava

>>for 7th matters with its clear indication of disharmony and quarrel,

>>torchored or insulted or having painful experiences in married life

>>without possibility of separation, and maraka of spouse which may not

>>allow to enjoy the native positive aspects of 8th. (If the 7th CSL is

>>linked with 5 & 8 houses, both husband and wife would cause

>>disrespects to mutually spoil their name and fame. K. Baskaran:

>>Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, p 130)

>>

>>Best regards,

>>

>>tw

>>

>> , " Balaji G.krishnan "

>><balaji_g_krishnan> wrote:

>> > Dear all,

>> >

>> > Also,please admit me to add few more sentences.This 8th Bhava is

>>having a lot of matters related to marriage from different angles

>>which are positive and more of negative for the native.

>> >

>> > 1.8TH is 2nd to the 7th bhava which denotes family of the life

>>partner,money of the life partner,sexual instincts,dowry or luck to

>>the life partner,etc.

>> >

>> > 2.So 8th signification by 7th CSL is good for 7th bhava but for 5th

>>bhava it is bad. So if the marriage is love marriage it shows tension

>>and conflicts.Ofcourse even it might be secret marriage like register

>>marriage wherein elders consent of both parties is missing.It also

>>indicates marriage under compulsion or force.But 5th CSL indicating

>>8th is bad and it shows disgrace,humiliation and painful incidences

>>in life.Ofcourse insult from children or painful incidences from

>>children.Loss of knowledge or wisdom.etc..

>> >

>> > 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or

>>under compulsion and benefiting the other party.It is really a very

>>good bhava for 7th matters as Guruji has explained in the Fourth

>>reader page no.154,8th denotes disharmony and quarrel .but not for

>>seperation and to experience difficulty.

>> >

>> > In most of the charts of brides who are all torchored or insulted

>>or having painful experiences in married life,this 8th signification

>>will be there.

>> >

>> > Dear K.P friends Pls verify this or share your opinions here.

>> >

>> > Thanks

>> > Balaji Gopalakrishnan

>> > Chennai-4

>> > +98840 47760.

>> >

>> > Dear Shri Anant Raichur,

>> >

>> > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be

>>promised

>> > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord.

>> >

>> > Best regards,

>> >

>> > Tin Win

>> >

>> > , anant raichur <anant_1608>

>> > wrote:

>> > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and 1st.

>> > Mangalya (esp

>> > > of

>> > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it has

>>to

>> > do with

>> > > marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the

>>longevity

>> > of the

>> > > married life, after marriage.

>> > > good luck

>> > > (

>> > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

>> > >

>> > > > Dear tw853,

>> > > > Allow me to add,that some also consider the

>>8th

>> > house as the

>> > > > " maangalya-sthana " ...

>> > > > lyrastro1

>> > > >

>> > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

>> > > >

>> > > > Dear Kpk,

>> > > >

>> > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of

>> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

>>marriage

>> > since

>> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th.

>> > > >

>> > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets,

>>recent

>> > KP

>> > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in

>>KP

>> > > > Readers)

>> > > >

>> > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to

>> > reunion.

>> > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for

>> > considering

>> > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and

>> > discord

>> > > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage,

>>e.g.

>> > in

>> > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets)

>>and

>> > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale

>>taking

>> > 8th

>> > > > in judging whether marriage is promised?

>> > > >

>> > > > Thanks and regards,

>> > > >

>> > > > tw

>> > > >

>> > > > , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010>

>>wrote:

>> > > > >

>> > > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that

>> > the 7th

>> > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars.

>>He

>> > is

>> > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own

>>Sub.

>> > He is

>> > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4

>> > > > Planets

>> > > > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon,

>>Mars

>> > and

>> > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub.

>>Let

>> > me

>> > > > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by

>>one.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is

>> > considered

>> > > > > weak to give result)

>> > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO

>> > PLANETS IN

>> > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE

>>HOUSES)

>> > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect)

>> > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect)

>>Cusp

>> > Sub

>> > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY

>> > > > POWERFUL

>> > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

>> > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN

>>HIS

>> > > > STARS

>> > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES)

>> > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not

>>been

>> > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results

>>since

>> > they

>> > > > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any

>>other

>> > > > Planets

>> > > > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word

>>`shadow'

>> > > > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe

>> > anything

>> > > > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly

>> > > > understand

>> > > > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets

>> > since

>> > > > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon.

>> > Under

>> > > > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp,

>> > that too

>> > > > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to

>> > fathom as

>> > > > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his

>> > Stars

>> > > > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will

>> > definitely

>> > > > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen

>> > above

>> > > > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this

>>Rahu

>> > has

>> > > > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving

>>him

>> > > > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that

>> > signification

>> > > > of

>> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

>>marriage

>> > since

>> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE

>> > SRI

>> > > > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that

>>unless

>> > the

>> > > > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can

>> > straightaway

>> > > > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all

>>in

>> > his

>> > > > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp

>>Sub

>> > Lord,

>> > > > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there

>> > are no

>> > > > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will

>> > > > definitely

>> > > > > be there for this person.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in

>> > operation on

>> > > > > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are

>> > > > MERCURY

>> > > > > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu.

>> > Though

>> > > > > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub

>>Lord

>> > is

>> > > > very

>> > > > > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed

>>in

>> > > > detail

>> > > > > above.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of

>> > Mercury

>> > > > the

>> > > > > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably

>> > placed

>> > > > the

>> > > > > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that

>>this

>> > > > Venus

>> > > > > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is

>>the

>> > > > KARAKA

>> > > > > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub

>>of

>> > > > > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will

>> > definitely

>> > > > > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for

>>this

>> > Venus

>> > > > > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to

>> > the

>> > > > 7th,

>> > > > > his would be wife.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Kpk3010

>> > > > >

>> > > > > , sathish kumar

>> > > > > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote:

>> > > > > > Guruji,

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > my question is :

>> > > > > > this person is not yet married and no relationship with

>> > any

>> > > > girl

>> > > > > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house

>> > cancer

>> > > > > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who

>>is

>> > > > > posited in 12 house

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > dob: 22-09-1972

>> > > > > > time: 15:12

>> > > > > > place: bangalore

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it

>>is

>> > so

>> > > > > (technically)

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > plz tell why it is so

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > regards

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

>> > > >

March 5, 2005

Dear Mr. Ron Gaunt :

I always thought Rahu and kethu are not considered Real Planets (but shadowy ).

How can they aspect any house or planet ? Also they do not OWN any signs in

the Zodiac . Prof. K.S.K. has said that only when Rahu or Kethu are conjoined or

aspected , by other planets , they will act as their agents and will give the results

of those significators .

Could some Senior members give their views ?

Thanks.

Srmrongaunt <rongaunt wrote:

Dear Sashi,In the ladies chart Jupiter is the 7th sub lord. Jupiter isclosely conjunct the 2nd Cusp signifying promise of marriage.In the gentleman's chart Moon is the 7th sub lord. Moon issignificator of the 2nd house being in the star of Mercury.Also Rahu closely conjuncts and is agent for Moon so is alsosignificator for 2nd house. Rahu also aspects the 11th house.All these promise marriage.The ladies chart is very instructive regarding the interplaybetween the planets. But I will just cover a few points relativeto marriage. Natal Saturn opposes Moon. Moon is in the Starof Rahu resident in the 6th house. Rahu received a directconjunction from the Last Solar Eclipse (SE) point on 4th Oct1986 prior to the marriage. Natal

Saturn is in the Star and Subof Venus Lord of the 7th house of marriage. Jupitersignificator of marriage is in the 7th house in the Star andSub of Saturn. Jupiter aspects Venus in the 2nd house (againrelating to marriage and family.Looking at SE Venus we see it opposed by natal Sun. Natal Sun isin the Star of Sun and Sub of Moon linking together the Lords ofthe 4th and 5th house. This looks like a love marriage with SEVenus in opposition. SE Venus is in the Star of Jupiterdispositor of Saturn which as we have seen is closely tied tosignificator of marriage Jupiter in the 7th house. Venus inits ongoing transit exactly aspects natal Ascendant on the day ofmarriage, confirming the birth time.Looking at marriage significator Jupiter we see in the SE itbeing in close trine aspect to the Cusp of the 7th house. Onthe day of marriage it came

exact trine to natal Jupiter, thusemphasizing the event. It was the Venus transit that decidedthe day.I haven't had time to look at the gentleman's chart, but I haveno doubt that we will find similar indications.Hope this helps.Ron GauntOn Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:13:01 +0000 (GMT), you wrote:>Dear Shashi,> The rule you have quoted has been arrived at after being distilled with years of experience in hundreds of cases...naturally therefore, you are surely going wrong somewhere...> Check for yourself,begining with ...are you using the correct ayanamsa ? Are you using the correct Nirayana Ephemeris ? Have you cast the horoscope correctly, as per K.P.

?> Have you checked for the correctness of the horoscope...?> Pl. inform after checking...I'm confident that you have made some mistake somewhere...you will learn K.P. better,if you re-examine the chart cast by you...there is no need for any help...> With best wishes,> Yours sincerely,>

lyrastro1> GOOD LUCK !>Shashi Shankar <sundry1990 wrote:>Dear Groupies,>You have stated that there has to be connection of 2,7 or 11 for marriage. But in one couple's horoscopes that I have studied, marriage took place even though the 7th subs were not connected with these houses but in fact connected to 6th house and the marriage is a happy one. The details are>Female>Date of birth 12.05.1959>Time of birth 05.38 am>Place Bombay>7th Sub lord - Moon 2/4 Rahu 3/3,6>Male>Date of birth 28.11.1961>Time of

birth 06.45 pm>Place New Delhi>7th Sub lord - Moon 3/3 Mercury 6/1,2,5>Date of marriage 16.02.1987>Please can you explain? Am I going wrong somewhere?>sundry1990>>>>Kanakkumar Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote:>>Dear tw>>In system aprroch they consider 8H .(regarding marriage)>>regards>>kanak bosmia>>>>>"tw853" <tw853 >> >> >> Re: From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard >>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 05:46:51 -0000 >> >> >>Dear Balaji G.krishnan, >> >> >> 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected

and or >> >>under compulsion and benefiting the other party. >> >> >>1. Th main issue is 8th may not a sigificator for marriage in KP >>since among others it also indicates delay in marriage. (KP Reader >>IV, p 138) >> >>2. It may be difficult to take the 8th as a really very good bhava >>for 7th matters with its clear indication of disharmony and quarrel, >>torchored or insulted or having painful experiences in married life >>without possibility of separation, and maraka of spouse which may not >>allow to enjoy the native positive aspects of 8th. (If the 7th CSL is >>linked with 5 & 8 houses, both husband and wife would cause >>disrespects to mutually spoil their name and fame. K. Baskaran: >>Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, p 130) >> >>Best regards, >> >>

>>tw >> >> >> , "Balaji G.krishnan" >><balaji_g_krishnan> wrote: >> > Dear all, >> > >> > Also,please admit me to add few more sentences.This 8th Bhava is >>having a lot of matters related to marriage from different angles >>which are positive and more of negative for the native. >> > >> > 1.8TH is 2nd to the 7th bhava which denotes family of the life >>partner,money of the life partner,sexual instincts,dowry or luck to >>the life partner,etc. >> > >> > 2.So 8th signification by 7th CSL is good for 7th bhava but for 5th >>bhava it is bad. So if the marriage is love marriage it shows tension >>and conflicts.Ofcourse even it might be secret marriage like register >>marriage wherein elders consent of both parties is missing.It also

>>indicates marriage under compulsion or force.But 5th CSL indicating >>8th is bad and it shows disgrace,humiliation and painful incidences >>in life.Ofcourse insult from children or painful incidences from >>children.Loss of knowledge or wisdom.etc.. >> > >> > 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or >>under compulsion and benefiting the other party.It is really a very >>good bhava for 7th matters as Guruji has explained in the Fourth >>reader page no.154,8th denotes disharmony and quarrel .but not for >>seperation and to experience difficulty. >> > >> > In most of the charts of brides who are all torchored or insulted >>or having painful experiences in married life,this 8th signification >>will be there. >> > >> > Dear K.P friends Pls verify this or share your opinions here.

>> > >> > Thanks >> > Balaji Gopalakrishnan >> > Chennai-4 >> > +98840 47760. >> > >> > >> > >> > Dear Shri Anant Raichur, >> > >> > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be >>promised >> > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > >> > Tin Win >> > >> > >> > >> > , anant raichur <anant_1608> >> > wrote: >> > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and 1st. >> > Mangalya (esp >> > > of >> > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it has >>to >> > do with >>

> > marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the >>longevity >> > of the >> > > married life, after marriage. >> > > good luck >> > > ( >> > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Dear tw853, >> > > > Allow me to add,that some also consider the >>8th >> > house as the >> > > > "maangalya-sthana"... >> > > > lyrastro1 >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Dear Kpk, >> > > > >>

> > > >> > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of >> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give >>marriage >> > since >> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. >> > > > >> > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets, >>recent >> > KP >> > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in >>KP >> > > > Readers) >> > > > >> > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to >> > reunion. >> > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for >> > considering >> > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and >> >

discord >> > > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage, >>e.g. >> > in >> > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets) >>and >> > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale >>taking >> > 8th >> > > > in judging whether marriage is promised? >> > > > >> > > > Thanks and regards, >> > > > >> > > > tw >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > , "kpk3010" <kpk3010> >>wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that >>

> the 7th >> > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars. >>He >> > is >> > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own >>Sub. >> > He is >> > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4 >> > > > Planets >> > > > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon, >>Mars >> > and >> > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub. >>Let >> > me >> > > > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by >>one. >> > > > > >> > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is >> > considered >> > > > > weak to give result)

>> > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO >> > PLANETS IN >> > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE >>HOUSES) >> > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect) >> > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect) >>Cusp >> > Sub >> > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY >> > > > POWERFUL >> > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES. >> > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN >>HIS >> > > > STARS >> > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES) >> > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not

>>been >> > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results >>since >> > they >> > > > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any >>other >> > > > Planets >> > > > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word >>`shadow' >> > > > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe >> > anything >> > > > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly >> > > > understand >> > > > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets >> > since >> > > > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon. >> > Under >> > > > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp, >>

> that too >> > > > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to >> > fathom as >> > > > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his >> > Stars >> > > > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will >> > definitely >> > > > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen >> > above >> > > > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this >>Rahu >> > has >> > > > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving >>him >> > > > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that >> > signification >> > > > of >> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give >>marriage

>> > since >> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE >> > SRI >> > > > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that >>unless >> > the >> > > > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can >> > straightaway >> > > > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all >>in >> > his >> > > > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp >>Sub >> > Lord, >> > > > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there >> > are no >> > > > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will >> > > > definitely >> > > > > be there for this person. >> > > > >

>> > > > > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in >> > operation on >> > > > > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are >> > > > MERCURY >> > > > > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS. >> > > > > >> > > > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu. >> > Though >> > > > > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub >>Lord >> > is >> > > > very >> > > > > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed >>in >> > > > detail >> > > > > above. >> > > > > >> > > > > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of >> > Mercury >> > > > the

>> > > > > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably >> > placed >> > > > the >> > > > > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that >>this >> > > > Venus >> > > > > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is >>the >> > > > KARAKA >> > > > > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage. >> > > > > >> > > > > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub >>of >> > > > > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen. >> > > > > >> > > > > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will >> > definitely >> > > > > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for

>>this >> > Venus >> > > > > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to >> > the >> > > > 7th, >> > > > > his would be wife. >> > > > > >> > > > > Kpk3010 >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > , sathish kumar >> > > > > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote: >> > > > > > Guruji, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > my question is : >> > > > > > this person is not yet married and no relationship with >> > any >> > > > girl >> > > > > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house >> > cancer

>> > > > > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who >>is >> > > > > posited in 12 house >> > > > > > >> > > > > > dob: 22-09-1972 >> > > > > > time: 15:12 >> > > > > > place: bangalore >> > > > > > >> > > > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004 >> > > > > > >> > > > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it >>is >> > so >> > > > > (technically) >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > plz tell why it is so >> > > > > > >> > > > > > regards >> > >

> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >

March 5, 2005

Dear Sathish,

There is a lot that I am not certain about in astrology, but one

thing I feel confident about is that Rahu and Ketu aspect

positions conjunct, opposition, and trine their natal position.

I would also include squares myself.

I have seen this so many times in appropriate circumstances that

I particularly look for nodal contacts. The SATVA system

(Systems Approach to Vedic Astrology) places great emphasis on

this and I think they are correct.

It could be of course that it is Rahu and Ketu that are receiving

the aspect from the natal planet. But the result is the same.

Also Rahu and Ketu aspects are very noticeable to angles and

House Lagna bhavas (same degrees as natal Ascendant) so I do

think that Rahu and Ketu throw aspects. Look at it this way;

aspects are simply harmonics of the natal circle, so say a Rahu

trine is simply a harmonic of its natal position relative to the

natal chart.

In fact I would go so far as to say that anyone ignoring Rahu and

Ketu aspects are unlikely to suceed in deliniation or

prediction as Rahu and Ketu are the most pervasive of all the

planets.

Ron Gaunt

On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:49:31 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

>Dear Mr. Ron Gaunt :

>I always thought Rahu and kethu are not considered Real Planets (but shadowy ).

>How can they aspect any house or planet ? Also they do not OWN any signs in

>the Zodiac . Prof. K.S.K. has said that only when Rahu or Kethu are conjoined

or

>aspected , by other planets , they will act as their agents and will give the

results

>of those significators .

>Could some Senior members give their views ?

>Thanks.

>Srm

>

>rongaunt <rongaunt wrote:

>

>Dear Sashi,

>

>In the ladies chart Jupiter is the 7th sub lord. Jupiter is

>closely conjunct the 2nd Cusp signifying promise of marriage.

>

>In the gentleman's chart Moon is the 7th sub lord. Moon is

>significator of the 2nd house being in the star of Mercury.

>Also Rahu closely conjuncts and is agent for Moon so is also

>significator for 2nd house. Rahu also aspects the 11th house.

>All these promise marriage.

>

>The ladies chart is very instructive regarding the interplay

>between the planets. But I will just cover a few points relative

>to marriage. Natal Saturn opposes Moon. Moon is in the Star

>of Rahu resident in the 6th house. Rahu received a direct

>conjunction from the Last Solar Eclipse (SE) point on 4th Oct

>1986 prior to the marriage. Natal Saturn is in the Star and Sub

>of Venus Lord of the 7th house of marriage. Jupiter

>significator of marriage is in the 7th house in the Star and

>Sub of Saturn. Jupiter aspects Venus in the 2nd house (again

>relating to marriage and family.

>

>Looking at SE Venus we see it opposed by natal Sun. Natal Sun is

>in the Star of Sun and Sub of Moon linking together the Lords of

>the 4th and 5th house. This looks like a love marriage with SE

>Venus in opposition. SE Venus is in the Star of Jupiter

>dispositor of Saturn which as we have seen is closely tied to

>significator of marriage Jupiter in the 7th house. Venus in

>its ongoing transit exactly aspects natal Ascendant on the day of

>marriage, confirming the birth time.

>

>Looking at marriage significator Jupiter we see in the SE it

>being in close trine aspect to the Cusp of the 7th house. On

>the day of marriage it came exact trine to natal Jupiter, thus

>emphasizing the event. It was the Venus transit that decided

>the day.

>

>I haven't had time to look at the gentleman's chart, but I have

>no doubt that we will find similar indications.

>

>Hope this helps.

>

>Ron Gaunt

>

>On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:13:01 +0000 (GMT), you wrote:

>

>>Dear Shashi,

>> The rule you have quoted has been arrived at after being

distilled with years of experience in hundreds of cases...naturally therefore,

you are surely going wrong somewhere...

>> Check for yourself,begining with ...are you using the

correct ayanamsa ? Are you using the correct Nirayana Ephemeris ? Have you cast

the horoscope correctly, as per K.P. ?

>> Have you checked for the correctness of the horoscope...?

>> Pl. inform after checking...I'm confident that you have made

some mistake somewhere...you will learn K.P. better,if you re-examine the chart

cast by you...there is no need for any help...

>> With best wishes,

>> Yours sincerely,

>> lyrastro1

>> GOOD LUCK !

>>Shashi Shankar <sundry1990 wrote:

>>Dear Groupies,

>>You have stated that there has to be connection of 2,7 or 11 for marriage. But

in one couple's horoscopes that I have studied, marriage took place even though

the 7th subs were not connected with these houses but in fact connected to 6th

house and the marriage is a happy one. The details are

>>Female

>>Date of birth 12.05.1959

>>Time of birth 05.38 am

>>Place Bombay

>>7th Sub lord - Moon 2/4 Rahu 3/3,6

>>Male

>>Date of birth 28.11.1961

>>Time of birth 06.45 pm

>>Place New Delhi

>>7th Sub lord - Moon 3/3 Mercury 6/1,2,5

>>Date of marriage 16.02.1987

>>Please can you explain? Am I going wrong somewhere?

>>sundry1990

>>

>>Kanakkumar Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote:

>>

>>Dear tw

>>

>>In system aprroch they consider 8H .(regarding marriage)

>>

>>regards

>>

>>kanak bosmia

>>

>>> " tw853 " <tw853

>>>

>>> Re: From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard

>>>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 05:46:51 -0000

>>>

>>>Dear Balaji G.krishnan,

>>>

>>> >> 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or

>>> >>under compulsion and benefiting the other party.

>>>

>>>1. Th main issue is 8th may not a sigificator for marriage in KP

>>>since among others it also indicates delay in marriage. (KP Reader

>>>IV, p 138)

>>>

>>>2. It may be difficult to take the 8th as a really very good bhava

>>>for 7th matters with its clear indication of disharmony and quarrel,

>>>torchored or insulted or having painful experiences in married life

>>>without possibility of separation, and maraka of spouse which may not

>>>allow to enjoy the native positive aspects of 8th. (If the 7th CSL is

>>>linked with 5 & 8 houses, both husband and wife would cause

>>>disrespects to mutually spoil their name and fame. K. Baskaran:

>>>Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, p 130)

>>>

>>>Best regards,

>>>

>>>tw

>>>

>>> , " Balaji G.krishnan "

>>><balaji_g_krishnan> wrote:

>>> > Dear all,

>>> >

>>> > Also,please admit me to add few more sentences.This 8th Bhava is

>>>having a lot of matters related to marriage from different angles

>>>which are positive and more of negative for the native.

>>> >

>>> > 1.8TH is 2nd to the 7th bhava which denotes family of the life

>>>partner,money of the life partner,sexual instincts,dowry or luck to

>>>the life partner,etc.

>>> >

>>> > 2.So 8th signification by 7th CSL is good for 7th bhava but for 5th

>>>bhava it is bad. So if the marriage is love marriage it shows tension

>>>and conflicts.Ofcourse even it might be secret marriage like register

>>>marriage wherein elders consent of both parties is missing.It also

>>>indicates marriage under compulsion or force.But 5th CSL indicating

>>>8th is bad and it shows disgrace,humiliation and painful incidences

>>>in life.Ofcourse insult from children or painful incidences from

>>>children.Loss of knowledge or wisdom.etc..

>>> >

>>> > 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or

>>>under compulsion and benefiting the other party.It is really a very

>>>good bhava for 7th matters as Guruji has explained in the Fourth

>>>reader page no.154,8th denotes disharmony and quarrel .but not for

>>>seperation and to experience difficulty.

>>> >

>>> > In most of the charts of brides who are all torchored or insulted

>>>or having painful experiences in married life,this 8th signification

>>>will be there.

>>> >

>>> > Dear K.P friends Pls verify this or share your opinions here.

>>> >

>>> > Thanks

>>> > Balaji Gopalakrishnan

>>> > Chennai-4

>>> > +98840 47760.

>>> >

>>> > Dear Shri Anant Raichur,

>>> >

>>> > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be

>>>promised

>>> > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord.

>>> >

>>> > Best regards,

>>> >

>>> > Tin Win

>>> >

>>> > , anant raichur <anant_1608>

>>> > wrote:

>>> > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and 1st.

>>> > Mangalya (esp

>>> > > of

>>> > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it has

>>>to

>>> > do with

>>> > > marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the

>>>longevity

>>> > of the

>>> > > married life, after marriage.

>>> > > good luck

>>> > > (

>>> > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

>>> > >

>>> > > > Dear tw853,

>>> > > > Allow me to add,that some also consider the

>>>8th

>>> > house as the

>>> > > > " maangalya-sthana " ...

>>> > > > lyrastro1

>>> > > >

>>> > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

>>> > > >

>>> > > > Dear Kpk,

>>> > > >

>>> > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of

>>> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

>>>marriage

>>> > since

>>> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th.

>>> > > >

>>> > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets,

>>>recent

>>> > KP

>>> > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in

>>>KP

>>> > > > Readers)

>>> > > >

>>> > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to

>>> > reunion.

>>> > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for

>>> > considering

>>> > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and

>>> > discord

>>> > > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage,

>>>e.g.

>>> > in

>>> > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets)

>>>and

>>> > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale

>>>taking

>>> > 8th

>>> > > > in judging whether marriage is promised?

>>> > > >

>>> > > > Thanks and regards,

>>> > > >

>>> > > > tw

>>> > > >

>>> > > > , " kpk3010 " <kpk3010>

>>>wrote:

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that

>>> > the 7th

>>> > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars.

>>>He

>>> > is

>>> > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own

>>>Sub.

>>> > He is

>>> > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4

>>> > > > Planets

>>> > > > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon,

>>>Mars

>>> > and

>>> > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub.

>>>Let

>>> > me

>>> > > > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by

>>>one.

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is

>>> > considered

>>> > > > > weak to give result)

>>> > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO

>>> > PLANETS IN

>>> > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE

>>>HOUSES)

>>> > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect)

>>> > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect)

>>>Cusp

>>> > Sub

>>> > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY

>>> > > > POWERFUL

>>> > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

>>> > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN

>>>HIS

>>> > > > STARS

>>> > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES)

>>> > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not

>>>been

>>> > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results

>>>since

>>> > they

>>> > > > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any

>>>other

>>> > > > Planets

>>> > > > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word

>>>`shadow'

>>> > > > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe

>>> > anything

>>> > > > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly

>>> > > > understand

>>> > > > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets

>>> > since

>>> > > > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon.

>>> > Under

>>> > > > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp,

>>> > that too

>>> > > > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to

>>> > fathom as

>>> > > > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his

>>> > Stars

>>> > > > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will

>>> > definitely

>>> > > > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen

>>> > above

>>> > > > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this

>>>Rahu

>>> > has

>>> > > > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving

>>>him

>>> > > > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that

>>> > signification

>>> > > > of

>>> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

>>>marriage

>>> > since

>>> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE

>>> > SRI

>>> > > > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that

>>>unless

>>> > the

>>> > > > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can

>>> > straightaway

>>> > > > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all

>>>in

>>> > his

>>> > > > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp

>>>Sub

>>> > Lord,

>>> > > > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there

>>> > are no

>>> > > > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will

>>> > > > definitely

>>> > > > > be there for this person.

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in

>>> > operation on

>>> > > > > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are

>>> > > > MERCURY

>>> > > > > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS.

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu.

>>> > Though

>>> > > > > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub

>>>Lord

>>> > is

>>> > > > very

>>> > > > > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed

>>>in

>>> > > > detail

>>> > > > > above.

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of

>>> > Mercury

>>> > > > the

>>> > > > > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably

>>> > placed

>>> > > > the

>>> > > > > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that

>>>this

>>> > > > Venus

>>> > > > > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is

>>>the

>>> > > > KARAKA

>>> > > > > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage.

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub

>>>of

>>> > > > > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen.

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will

>>> > definitely

>>> > > > > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for

>>>this

>>> > Venus

>>> > > > > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to

>>> > the

>>> > > > 7th,

>>> > > > > his would be wife.

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > Kpk3010

>>> > > > >

>>> > > > > , sathish kumar

>>> > > > > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote:

>>> > > > > > Guruji,

>>> > > > > >

>>> > > > > > my question is :

>>> > > > > > this person is not yet married and no relationship with

>>> > any

>>> > > > girl

>>> > > > > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house

>>> > cancer

>>> > > > > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who

>>>is

>>> > > > > posited in 12 house

>>> > > > > >

>>> > > > > > dob: 22-09-1972

>>> > > > > > time: 15:12

>>> > > > > > place: bangalore

>>> > > > > >

>>> > > > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004

>>> > > > > >

>>> > > > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it

>>>is

>>> > so

>>> > > > > (technically)

>>> > > > > >

>>> > > > > > plz tell why it is so

>>> > > > > >

>>> > > > > > regards

>>> > > > > >

>>> > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

>>> > > >

March 5, 2005

Dear Shashi,

The first thing I should invite to your attention to, is that when you notice such thing, the time of birth must be doubtful. The correct way to ascertain whether marriage is promised or not, is to take the 7th sub-lord of the horary chart. However, in this particular case, it seems, you have not taken all the rules into consideration.

In the female chart (who is older than the male) the 7th sub-lord signifies 2, 7 and 11 because, he is in conjunction with 2nd & 7th lord as well as natural significator for marriage, Venus. Further, the Moon is in the star of Rahu aspected by Mars, a strong significator of 7th and 11th lord Saturn who is also a significator of 2 & 7 being in the star of Venus.

In the male chart, the sub-lord of 7th Moon becomes a significator of 3 being in the star of the 2nd lord Mercury (yes, Mercury owns the 1st and 2nd both houses here).

Hope this clears your doubts.

Good luck.

Hasmukhrai J Mehta. Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

Dear Shashi,

The rule you have quoted has been arrived at after being distilled with years of experience in hundreds of cases...naturally therefore, you are surely going wrong somewhere...

Check for yourself,begining with ...are you using the correct ayanamsa ? Are you using the correct Nirayana Ephemeris ? Have you cast the horoscope correctly, as per K.P. ?

Have you checked for the correctness of the horoscope...?

Pl. inform after checking...I'm confident that you have made some mistake somewhere...you will learn K.P. better,if you re-examine the chart cast by you...there is no need for any help...

With best wishes,

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !Shashi Shankar <sundry1990 wrote:

Dear Groupies,

You have stated that there has to be connection of 2,7 or 11 for marriage. But in one couple's horoscopes that I have studied, marriage took place even though the 7th subs were not connected with these houses but in fact connected to 6th house and the marriage is a happy one. The details are

FemaleDate of birth 12.05.1959Time of birth 05.38 amPlace Bombay7th Sub lord - Moon 2/4 Rahu 3/3,6

MaleDate of birth 28.11.1961Time of birth 06.45 pmPlace New Delhi7th Sub lord - Moon 3/3 Mercury 6/1,2,5

Date of marriage 16.02.1987

Please can you explain? Am I going wrong somewhere?

sundry1990

Kanakkumar Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote:

Dear tw

In system aprroch they consider 8H .(regarding marriage)

regards

kanak bosmia

>"tw853" <tw853 > > > Re: From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard >Wed, 02 Mar 2005 05:46:51 -0000 > > >Dear Balaji G.krishnan, > > >> 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or > >>under compulsion and benefiting the other party. > > >1. Th main issue is 8th may not a sigificator for marriage in KP >since among others it also indicates delay in marriage. (KP Reader >IV, p 138) > >2. It may be difficult to take the 8th as a really very good bhava >for 7th matters with its clear indication of disharmony and quarrel, >torchored or insulted or having painful experiences in married life >without possibility of separation, and maraka of spouse which may not >allow to enjoy the native positive aspects of 8th. (If the 7th CSL is >linked with 5 & 8 houses, both husband and wife would cause >disrespects to mutually spoil their name and fame. K. Baskaran: >Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, p 130) > >Best regards, > > >tw > > > , "Balaji G.krishnan" ><balaji_g_krishnan> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Also,please admit me to add few more sentences.This 8th Bhava is >having a lot of matters related to marriage from different angles >which are positive and more of negative for the native. > > > > 1.8TH is 2nd to the 7th bhava which denotes family of the life >partner,money of the life partner,sexual instincts,dowry or luck to >the life partner,etc. > > > > 2.So 8th signification by 7th CSL is good for 7th bhava but for 5th >bhava it is bad. So if the marriage is love marriage it shows tension >and conflicts.Ofcourse even it might be secret marriage like register >marriage wherein elders consent of both parties is missing.It also >indicates marriage under compulsion or force.But 5th CSL indicating >8th is bad and it shows disgrace,humiliation and painful incidences >in life.Ofcourse insult from children or painful incidences from >children.Loss of knowledge or wisdom.etc.. > > > > 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or >under compulsion and benefiting the other party.It is really a very >good bhava for 7th matters as Guruji has explained in the Fourth >reader page no.154,8th denotes disharmony and quarrel .but not for >seperation and to experience difficulty. > > > > In most of the charts of brides who are all torchored or insulted >or having painful experiences in married life,this 8th signification >will be there. > > > > Dear K.P friends Pls verify this or share your opinions here. > > > > Thanks > > Balaji Gopalakrishnan > > Chennai-4 > > +98840 47760. > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Anant Raichur, > > > > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be >promised > > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord. > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Tin Win > > > > > > > > , anant raichur <anant_1608> > > wrote: > > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and 1st. > > Mangalya (esp > > > of > > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it has >to > > do with > > > marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the >longevity > > of the > > > married life, after marriage. > > > good luck > > > ( > > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear tw853, > > > > Allow me to add,that some also consider the >8th > > house as the > > > > "maangalya-sthana"... > > > > lyrastro1 > > > > > > > > > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kpk, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that signification of > > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give >marriage > > since > > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. > > > > > > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets, >recent > > KP > > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course not in >KP > > > > Readers) > > > > > > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to > > reunion. > > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for > > considering > > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony and > > discord > > > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for marriage, >e.g. > > in > > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of Planets) >and > > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale >taking > > 8th > > > > in judging whether marriage is promised? > > > > > > > > Thanks and regards, > > > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "kpk3010" <kpk3010> >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen that > > the 7th > > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and Mars. >He > > is > > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his own >Sub. > > He is > > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all these 4 > > > > Planets > > > > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun, Moon, >Mars > > and > > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own Sub. >Let > > me > > > > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one by >one. > > > > > > > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is > > considered > > > > > weak to give result) > > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with NO > > PLANETS IN > > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE >HOUSES) > > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect) > > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through aspect) >Cusp > > Sub > > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE VERY > > > > POWERFUL > > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES. > > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS IN >HIS > > > > STARS > > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES) > > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has not >been > > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results >since > > they > > > > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any >other > > > > Planets > > > > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word >`shadow' > > > > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or observe > > anything > > > > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to clearly > > > > understand > > > > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as Planets > > since > > > > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and Moon. > > Under > > > > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th Cusp, > > that too > > > > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty to > > fathom as > > > > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets in his > > Stars > > > > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he will > > definitely > > > > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have seen > > above > > > > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios this >Rahu > > has > > > > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for giving >him > > > > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that > > signification > > > > of > > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give >marriage > > since > > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI LATE > > SRI > > > > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that >unless > > the > > > > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can > > straightaway > > > > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at all >in > > his > > > > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th Cusp >Sub > > Lord, > > > > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since there > > are no > > > > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage will > > > > definitely > > > > > be there for this person. > > > > > > > > > > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in > > operation on > > > > > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005. They are > > > > MERCURY > > > > > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS. > > > > > > > > > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of Rahu. > > Though > > > > > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the Sub >Lord > > is > > > > very > > > > > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already discussed >in > > > > detail > > > > > above. > > > > > > > > > > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star of > > Mercury > > > > the > > > > > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is favorably > > placed > > > > the > > > > > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note that >this > > > > Venus > > > > > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he is >the > > > > KARAKA > > > > > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage. > > > > > > > > > > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter and Sub >of > > > > > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already seen. > > > > > > > > > > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will > > definitely > > > > > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord for >this > > Venus > > > > > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is 2nd to > > the > > > > 7th, > > > > > his would be wife. > > > > > > > > > > Kpk3010 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , sathish kumar > > > > > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote: > > > > > > Guruji, > > > > > > > > > > > > my question is : > > > > > > this person is not yet married and no relationship with > > any > > > > girl > > > > > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7 house > > cancer > > > > > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu who >is > > > > > posited in 12 house > > > > > > > > > > > > dob: 22-09-1972 > > > > > > time: 15:12 > > > > > > place: bangalore > > > > > > > > > > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004 > > > > > > > > > > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no why it >is > > so > > > > > (technically) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plz tell why it is so > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

March 5, 2005

Dear B Sridhaeran,

Just for information

http://www.jyotishvidya.com/nodes.htm

Best regards,

tw

, B Sridhaeran <raichur_m>

wrote:

> Dear Mr. Ron Gaunt :

> I always thought Rahu and kethu are not considered Real Planets

(but shadowy ).

> How can they aspect any house or planet ? Also they do not OWN any

signs in

> the Zodiac . Prof. K.S.K. has said that only when Rahu or Kethu are

conjoined or

> aspected , by other planets , they will act as their agents and

will give the results

> of those significators .

> Could some Senior members give their views ?

> Thanks.

> Srm

>

> rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>

> Dear Sashi,

>

> In the ladies chart Jupiter is the 7th sub lord. Jupiter is

> closely conjunct the 2nd Cusp signifying promise of marriage.

>

> In the gentleman's chart Moon is the 7th sub lord. Moon is

> significator of the 2nd house being in the star of Mercury.

> Also Rahu closely conjuncts and is agent for Moon so is also

> significator for 2nd house. Rahu also aspects the 11th house.

> All these promise marriage.

>

> The ladies chart is very instructive regarding the interplay

> between the planets. But I will just cover a few points relative

> to marriage. Natal Saturn opposes Moon. Moon is in the Star

> of Rahu resident in the 6th house. Rahu received a direct

> conjunction from the Last Solar Eclipse (SE) point on 4th Oct

> 1986 prior to the marriage. Natal Saturn is in the Star and Sub

> of Venus Lord of the 7th house of marriage. Jupiter

> significator of marriage is in the 7th house in the Star and

> Sub of Saturn. Jupiter aspects Venus in the 2nd house (again

> relating to marriage and family.

>

> Looking at SE Venus we see it opposed by natal Sun. Natal Sun is

> in the Star of Sun and Sub of Moon linking together the Lords of

> the 4th and 5th house. This looks like a love marriage with SE

> Venus in opposition. SE Venus is in the Star of Jupiter

> dispositor of Saturn which as we have seen is closely tied to

> significator of marriage Jupiter in the 7th house. Venus in

> its ongoing transit exactly aspects natal Ascendant on the day of

> marriage, confirming the birth time.

>

> Looking at marriage significator Jupiter we see in the SE it

> being in close trine aspect to the Cusp of the 7th house. On

> the day of marriage it came exact trine to natal Jupiter, thus

> emphasizing the event. It was the Venus transit that decided

> the day.

>

> I haven't had time to look at the gentleman's chart, but I have

> no doubt that we will find similar indications.

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Ron Gaunt

>

> On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 15:13:01 +0000 (GMT), you wrote:

>

> >Dear Shashi,

> > The rule you have quoted has been arrived at

after being distilled with years of experience in hundreds of

cases...naturally therefore, you are surely going wrong somewhere...

> > Check for yourself,begining with ...are you

using the correct ayanamsa ? Are you using the correct Nirayana

Ephemeris ? Have you cast the horoscope correctly, as per K.P. ?

> > Have you checked for the correctness of the

horoscope...?

> > Pl. inform after checking...I'm confident that

you have made some mistake somewhere...you will learn K.P. better,if

you re-examine the chart cast by you...there is no need for any

help...

> > With best wishes,

> > Yours sincerely,

> > lyrastro1

> > GOOD LUCK !

> >Shashi Shankar <sundry1990> wrote:

> >Dear Groupies,

> >You have stated that there has to be connection of 2,7 or 11 for

marriage. But in one couple's horoscopes that I have studied,

marriage took place even though the 7th subs were not connected with

these houses but in fact connected to 6th house and the marriage is a

happy one. The details are

> >Female

> >Date of birth 12.05.1959

> >Time of birth 05.38 am

> >Place Bombay

> >7th Sub lord - Moon 2/4 Rahu 3/3,6

> >Male

> >Date of birth 28.11.1961

> >Time of birth 06.45 pm

> >Place New Delhi

> >7th Sub lord - Moon 3/3 Mercury 6/1,2,5

> >Date of marriage 16.02.1987

> >Please can you explain? Am I going wrong somewhere?

> >sundry1990

> >

> >Kanakkumar Bosmia <kanbosastro@h...> wrote:

> >

> >Dear tw

> >

> >In system aprroch they consider 8H .(regarding marriage)

> >

> >regards

> >

> >kanak bosmia

> >

> >> " tw853 " <tw853>

> >>

> >> Re: From Sathish Regarding 7th cusp sublard

> >>Wed, 02 Mar 2005 05:46:51 -0000

> >>

> >>Dear Balaji G.krishnan,

> >>

> >> >> 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and

or

> >> >>under compulsion and benefiting the other party.

> >>

> >>1. Th main issue is 8th may not a sigificator for marriage in KP

> >>since among others it also indicates delay in marriage. (KP

Reader

> >>IV, p 138)

> >>

> >>2. It may be difficult to take the 8th as a really very good

bhava

> >>for 7th matters with its clear indication of disharmony and

quarrel,

> >>torchored or insulted or having painful experiences in married

life

> >>without possibility of separation, and maraka of spouse which may

not

> >>allow to enjoy the native positive aspects of 8th. (If the 7th

CSL is

> >>linked with 5 & 8 houses, both husband and wife would cause

> >>disrespects to mutually spoil their name and fame. K. Baskaran:

> >>Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, p 130)

> >>

> >>Best regards,

> >>

> >>tw

> >>

> >> , " Balaji G.krishnan "

> >><balaji_g_krishnan> wrote:

> >> > Dear all,

> >> >

> >> > Also,please admit me to add few more sentences.This 8th Bhava

is

> >>having a lot of matters related to marriage from different angles

> >>which are positive and more of negative for the native.

> >> >

> >> > 1.8TH is 2nd to the 7th bhava which denotes family of the life

> >>partner,money of the life partner,sexual instincts,dowry or luck

to

> >>the life partner,etc.

> >> >

> >> > 2.So 8th signification by 7th CSL is good for 7th bhava but

for 5th

> >>bhava it is bad. So if the marriage is love marriage it shows

tension

> >>and conflicts.Ofcourse even it might be secret marriage like

register

> >>marriage wherein elders consent of both parties is missing.It

also

> >>indicates marriage under compulsion or force.But 5th CSL

indicating

> >>8th is bad and it shows disgrace,humiliation and painful

incidences

> >>in life.Ofcourse insult from children or painful incidences from

> >>children.Loss of knowledge or wisdom.etc..

> >> >

> >> > 3.So 7th CSL signifying 8th denotes marriage unexpected and or

> >>under compulsion and benefiting the other party.It is really a

very

> >>good bhava for 7th matters as Guruji has explained in the Fourth

> >>reader page no.154,8th denotes disharmony and quarrel .but not

for

> >>seperation and to experience difficulty.

> >> >

> >> > In most of the charts of brides who are all torchored or

insulted

> >>or having painful experiences in married life,this 8th

signification

> >>will be there.

> >> >

> >> > Dear K.P friends Pls verify this or share your opinions here.

> >> >

> >> > Thanks

> >> > Balaji Gopalakrishnan

> >> > Chennai-4

> >> > +98840 47760.

> >> >

> >> > Dear Shri Anant Raichur,

> >> >

> >> > I agree with you. That is why I'm aksing how marriage can be

> >>promised

> >> > by signification of 8th house by 7th cusp sublord.

> >> >

> >> > Best regards,

> >> >

> >> > Tin Win

> >> >

> >> > , anant raichur

<anant_1608>

> >> > wrote:

> >> > > 8 th house is considered for Longevity, along with 3rd and

1st.

> >> > Mangalya (esp

> >> > > of

> >> > > Females) will be longevity of the Husband. I do not think it

has

> >>to

> >> > do with

> >> > > marriage, though, one may take taht into considering the

> >>longevity

> >> > of the

> >> > > married life, after marriage.

> >> > > good luck

> >> > > (

> >> > > --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

> >> > >

> >> > > > Dear tw853,

> >> > > > Allow me to add,that some also consider

the

> >>8th

> >> > house as the

> >> > > > " maangalya-sthana " ...

> >> > > > lyrastro1

> >> > > >

> >> > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Dear Kpk,

> >> > > >

> >> > > > > Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that

signification of

> >> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

> >>marriage

> >> > since

> >> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > 1. I can't find any reference like this in Astrosecrets,

> >>recent

> >> > KP

> >> > > > Year Books and other available KP litrature. (Of course

not in

> >>KP

> >> > > > Readers)

> >> > > >

> >> > > > 2. 5th & 8th are mentioned in KP Readers with regard to

> >> > reunion.

> >> > > > Generally 5th (house of love affairs) is favorable for

> >> > considering

> >> > > > timing of marriage. But 8th (house of quarrel, disharmony

and

> >> > discord

> >> > > > in married live), which is treated unfavorable for

marriage,

> >>e.g.

> >> > in

> >> > > > KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, p 109 (under Behavor of

Planets)

> >>and

> >> > > > Astrosecrets, Part III, p 105. What will be the rationale

> >>taking

> >> > 8th

> >> > > > in judging whether marriage is promised?

> >> > > >

> >> > > > Thanks and regards,

> >> > > >

> >> > > > tw

> >> > > >

> >> > > > , " kpk3010 "

> >>wrote:

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > In the Chart prepared as per K.P.Principles, it is seen

that

> >> > the 7th

> >> > > > > Cusp Sub Lord is Rahu. He is aspected by Sun, Moon and

Mars.

> >>He

> >> > is

> >> > > > > occupying the Sign of Saturn, and he (Rahu) is in his

own

> >>Sub.

> >> > He is

> >> > > > > in the Star of Sun. Therefore we have to examine all

these 4

> >> > > > Planets

> >> > > > > closely to find an answer to the question viz., Sun,

Moon,

> >>Mars

> >> > and

> >> > > > > Saturn, not to speak of Rahu himself who is in his own

Sub.

> >>Let

> >> > me

> >> > > > > tabulate below the significations of these Planets, one

by

> >>one.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > Sun = 8,8,8,8 (5,6,7,8,9, and 10 through aspect which is

> >> > considered

> >> > > > > weak to give result)

> >> > > > > Moon = 11,2,3,12,7 (Cusp Sub Lord for 2,3 and 12 with

NO

> >> > PLANETS IN

> >> > > > > HIS STARS, HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF TRHESE

> >>HOUSES)

> >> > > > > Mars = 8,8,8,4,11 (2,3,6,7,8,9 and 11 through aspect)

> >> > > > > Saturn = 8,5,4,11,1,2 (4,5,6,7,8,9 and 10 through

aspect)

> >>Cusp

> >> > Sub

> >> > > > > Lord for 4 and 10 with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS AND HENCE

VERY

> >> > > > POWERFUL

> >> > > > > TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO HOUSES.

> >> > > > > Rahu = 8,12,8 (Cusp Sub Lord for 7 and 8 with NO PLANETS

IN

> >>HIS

> >> > > > STARS

> >> > > > > AND HENCE VERY POWERFUL TO GIVE RESULT OF THESE TWO

HOUSES)

> >> > > > > In all the astrological literature on KP Rahu/Kethu has

not

> >>been

> >> > > > > satisfactorily discussed in the matter of giving results

> >>since

> >> > they

> >> > > > > are not Planets that can be observed physically like any

> >>other

> >> > > > Planets

> >> > > > > and they are also reported as shadowy Planets. The word

> >>`shadow'

> >> > > > > itself conveys the meaning that one cannot see or

observe

> >> > anything

> >> > > > > clearly in a shadow and hence it is not possible to

clearly

> >> > > > understand

> >> > > > > these Planets, though it is misnomer to call them as

Planets

> >> > since

> >> > > > > they are only the cutting points in the path of Sun and

Moon.

> >> > Under

> >> > > > > the circumstances this Rahu taking the control of 7th

Cusp,

> >> > that too

> >> > > > > with NO PLANETS IN ITS STARS, throws a great difficulty

to

> >> > fathom as

> >> > > > > to how it will give result. Since there are no Planets

in his

> >> > Stars

> >> > > > > and controls the 7th Cusp, the House of Marriage, he

will

> >> > definitely

> >> > > > > give marriage but after much delay and anxiety. We have

seen

> >> > above

> >> > > > > that except Moon, the other Planets whose portfolios

this

> >>Rahu

> >> > has

> >> > > > > taken for giving results, none other is favorable for

giving

> >>him

> >> > > > > marriage. Some KP Astrologers are of the view of that

> >> > signification

> >> > > > of

> >> > > > > houses 5 and 8 by the 7th Cusp Sub Lord can also give

> >>marriage

> >> > since

> >> > > > > 5th is 11th to the 7th and 8th is 2nd to 7th. But GURUJI

LATE

> >> > SRI

> >> > > > > K.S.KJI., INVERNTER OF THIS KP SYSTEM, mostly ruled that

> >>unless

> >> > the

> >> > > > > 7th Cusp Sub Lord signifies either 2, 7 or 11, we can

> >> > straightaway

> >> > > > > decide that for such a person there will no marriage at

all

> >>in

> >> > his

> >> > > > > life time. However in the case of this person the 7th

Cusp

> >>Sub

> >> > Lord,

> >> > > > > Rahu, is controlling the 7th Cusp very powerfully since

there

> >> > are no

> >> > > > > Planets in his stars. Under the circumstances marriage

will

> >> > > > definitely

> >> > > > > be there for this person.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > Now I am taking up for examination the period Lords in

> >> > operation on

> >> > > > > the date of my giving this answer i.e., 28-02-2005.

They are

> >> > > > MERCURY

> >> > > > > / VENUS / MOON / VENUS.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > Mercury the Dasa Lord is in the Star of Sun and Sub of

Rahu.

> >> > Though

> >> > > > > Star Lord Sun is not favorable for marriage, Rahu the

Sub

> >>Lord

> >> > is

> >> > > > very

> >> > > > > powerful to give marriage due the reasons already

discussed

> >>in

> >> > > > detail

> >> > > > > above.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > Venus the Bukthi and Sookshma Lord Venus is in the Star

of

> >> > Mercury

> >> > > > the

> >> > > > > Dasa Lord and Sub of Sun. Though the Dasa Lord is

favorably

> >> > placed

> >> > > > the

> >> > > > > Sub Lord Sun stands as a stumbling block. Please note

that

> >>this

> >> > > > Venus

> >> > > > > is occupying the 7th with NO PLANETS IN HIS STARS and he

is

> >>the

> >> > > > KARAKA

> >> > > > > PLANET FOR A MALE,for marriage.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > Lastly Moon the Anthar Lord is in the Star of Jupiter

and Sub

> >>of

> >> > > > > the Dasa Lord Mercury who is favorably placed as already

seen.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > Since Venus Bukthi is upto 6-3-2007 this individual will

> >> > definitely

> >> > > > > get married by that time in spite of Sun the Sub Lord

for

> >>this

> >> > Venus

> >> > > > > who (Sun) signifies very strongly 8th house, which is

2nd to

> >> > the

> >> > > > 7th,

> >> > > > > his would be wife.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > Kpk3010

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > , sathish kumar

> >> > > > > <sathish_kumar_a> wrote:

> >> > > > > > Guruji,

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > my question is :

> >> > > > > > this person is not yet married and no relationship

with

> >> > any

> >> > > > girl

> >> > > > > in his life time, in his chart venus is posited in 7

house

> >> > cancer

> >> > > > > starlard: mercury (in 9th) and 7th cusp subload is rahu

who

> >>is

> >> > > > > posited in 12 house

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > dob: 22-09-1972

> >> > > > > > time: 15:12

> >> > > > > > place: bangalore

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > mercury dasa venus bukti running from sep 2004

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > can he get a life partner if yes when it is if no

why it

> >>is

> >> > so

> >> > > > > (technically)

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > plz tell why it is so

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > regards

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

> >> > > >

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