Birth Time Rectification & Gender Check

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

I read in one of the postings to this group that the child's gender

can be determined thus: If StarlordOf(SublordOf(SublordOf(5th Cusp)))

is placed in a Male sign, then the child will be male, else the child

will be female. For the given horoscope, assuming 2 am is correct

birth time, this rule appears to fail. What gives?

 

Regards,

Rangarajan

 

, anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote:

> gIVEN tIME OF 2.0 AM checked with incidents in Life NO CHANGE IS

REQUIRED

> dood luck

> --- gurusubra <gurusubra> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Dear members,

> > The following are the birth details of a lady. She is uncertain about

> > the exact time of birth though the date and year are known.

> > Name: A.Maragatham

> > DOB: 24-1-1957 Reported time: 2 A.M Place:chennai, Lat:13-04(N),

> > Long:80-17(E).

> > I tried to rectify the birth time by adopting various methods , but I

> > get different timings and am therefore puzzled. I therefore place the

> > case before our expert gurus for their conslderation to arrive at the

> > correct timimg.

> > Past events in her life:

> > Marriage: 24-5-1980

> > Birth of daughter: 10-5-1982

> > Birth of son: 6-8-1983

> > Death of husband:18-3-1996

> > Death of father:17-1-2001

> >

> > Nakshatra of daughter: kettai(Scorpio)

> > Son: Arudra(Gemini)

> > Younger sister: Anusham(Scorpio)

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

 

Mrs. Maragatham's given TOB may be assumed sufficiently reliable on

the the basis of the analysis given below.

 

Any comment for the benefit of KP learners? Please!

 

Thanks and best regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

 

1. A. Maragatham, 24 Jan 1957, Th, 2:00 AM IST, Chennai, 13N04,

80E17, Sid Time 10:02:45, New KPA 23:10:03, Asc 04Sc22:39, Jupiter

dasa balnce 13y:9m:22d (KPAstro SW)

 

2. First child, daughter, born on 10-05-1982 (Sa/Ve/Mo/Ma dasa)

 

a/ As per 5th cusp Sbl Rule (Astrosecrets Part I pp 295-296, 304 &

Part III, p 84; K.P. Year Book 2000, p 10; Hand Book on Astrology,

Part II, pp 88-89)

 

5th cusp Stl is Saturn and Sbl is Ketu which is in Stl Sun & Sbl

Jupiter

Saturn, Ketu, Sun & Jupiter in Female signs Sc, Ta, Cp & Vi

respectively, very strongly indicating Female

 

b/ As per Raichur's Suggestion (Msg #1707 of Anant Raichur)

 

5th cusp & 11th cusp Sbl Ket is in Sbl Jupiter which is in Female

sign Vi and its Sgl Mercury conjunct Female planet Venus;

2th cusp Sbl Moon is in Sbl Saturn which is in Female sign Sc and its

Sgl Mars is Male planet.

Strong indication of Female

 

c/ As per Balasekar's Rule (Message # 1686 of Rao; K. P. Year Book

200, p 39)

5th cusp Sbl Is Ketu. Mars is in Ketu star. Ketu is in Stl Sun

(10Cp26) which is in the first 15 deg of even house, i.e., Moon Hora

indicating Female.

 

d/ Child birth 2,5 & 11 houses are strongly indicated by dasa lords.

Saturn signifies 2; 1; 8,11 ; 3,4 houses

Venus 2; 2; 7,12; 7,12

Moon 11; 12; 2,5; 9

Mars 7; 5; --; 1,6

 

 

3. Second child, son, born 06-08-1983 (Sa/Mo/Sa/Ve dasa)

 

a/ As per 5th cusp Sbl Rule,

7th cusp Stl is Sun and Sbl is Saturn which is in Stl Mercury & Sbl

Mercury

Sun & Saturn are Male planets but in Female signs Cp & Sc

respectively; Mercury is in Male sign Sg;

Since the Sbl of 7th Sbl is the decisive one, Male indication is

stronger.

 

b/ As per Raichur's Suggestion

 

7th cusp Sbl Saturn is in Sbl Mercury which is in Male sign Sg and

its Sgl Jupiter is Male planet.

2th cusp Sbl Moon is in Sbl Saturn which is in Female sign Sc and its

Sgl Mars is Male planet.

11th cusp Sbl Ket is in Sbl Jupiter which is in Female sign Virgo

and its Sgl Mercury conjunct Female Venus;

Equal indication for Male or Female

 

c/ As per Balasekar's Rule,

 

7th cusp Sbl Saturn (18Sc23). No planet is in the star of Saturn.

Saturn is in the second 15deg of even sign, i.e., Sun Hora indicating

Male.

 

d/ Child birth 2,5 & 11 houses are strongly significant.

Saturn signifies 2; 1; 8,11 ; 3,4 houses

Moon 11; 12; 2,5; 9

Venus 2; 2; 7,12; 7,12

 

4. Marriage on 24-05-1980 (Sa/Ve/Mo/Ma)

 

2, 7 & 11 houses are srongly significant.

Saturn 2; 1; 8,11 ; 3,4 houses

Venus 2; 2; 7,12; 7,12

Moon 11; 12; 2,5; 9

Mars 7; 5; -- ;1,6

 

5. Husband's death 18-03-1996 (Me/Su/Mo/Ve dasa)

 

Badhaka, Maraka & Moksha: 3,8,1 & 6 are sufficiently signified.

Mercury 2; 2; 7,12; 8,11

Sun 12; 3; 9; 10

Moon 11; 12; 2,5; 9

Venus 2; 2; 7,12; 7,12

 

6. Father's death 17-01-2001 (Me/Ra/Ve/Ve dasa)

 

Badhaka, Maraka & Moksha: 11,10,3 & 8 are clearly significant.

Mercury 2; 2; 7,12; 8,11

Rahu 1,3,4; 5,1,6 11,1,2,5;

Venus 2; 2; 7,12; 7,12

 

 

 

 

 

, " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy "

<ranga@m...> wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

> I read in one of the postings to this group that the child's gender

> can be determined thus: If StarlordOf(SublordOf(SublordOf(5th

Cusp)))

> is placed in a Male sign, then the child will be male, else the

child

> will be female. For the given horoscope, assuming 2 am is correct

> birth time, this rule appears to fail. What gives?

>

> Regards,

> Rangarajan

>

> , anant raichur <anant_1608>

wrote:

> > gIVEN tIME OF 2.0 AM checked with incidents in Life NO CHANGE IS

> REQUIRED

> > dood luck

> > --- gurusubra <gurusubra> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear members,

> > > The following are the birth details of a lady. She is uncertain

about

> > > the exact time of birth though the date and year are known.

> > > Name: A.Maragatham

> > > DOB: 24-1-1957 Reported time: 2 A.M Place:chennai, Lat:13-04

(N),

> > > Long:80-17(E).

> > > I tried to rectify the birth time by adopting various methods ,

but I

> > > get different timings and am therefore puzzled. I therefore

place the

> > > case before our expert gurus for their conslderation to arrive

at the

> > > correct timimg.

> > > Past events in her life:

> > > Marriage: 24-5-1980

> > > Birth of daughter: 10-5-1982

> > > Birth of son: 6-8-1983

> > > Death of husband:18-3-1996

> > > Death of father:17-1-2001

> > >

> > > Nakshatra of daughter: kettai(Scorpio)

> > > Son: Arudra(Gemini)

> > > Younger sister: Anusham(Scorpio)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Rangarajan

The learned friend who had given this method had said that it is correct in 90

percent of the cases, he had experienced. So this could be one on the 10

percent failures.

 

one has to study a number of charts and experiment

 

--- Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote:

 

>

>

> Dear Sir,

> I read in one of the postings to this group that the child's gender

> can be determined thus: If StarlordOf(SublordOf(SublordOf(5th Cusp)))

> is placed in a Male sign, then the child will be male, else the child

> will be female. For the given horoscope, assuming 2 am is correct

> birth time, this rule appears to fail. What gives?

>

> Regards,

> Rangarajan

>

> , anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote:

> > gIVEN tIME OF 2.0 AM checked with incidents in Life NO CHANGE IS

> REQUIRED

> > dood luck

> > --- gurusubra <gurusubra> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear members,

> > > The following are the birth details of a lady. She is uncertain about

> > > the exact time of birth though the date and year are known.

> > > Name: A.Maragatham

> > > DOB: 24-1-1957 Reported time: 2 A.M Place:chennai, Lat:13-04(N),

> > > Long:80-17(E).

> > > I tried to rectify the birth time by adopting various methods , but I

> > > get different timings and am therefore puzzled. I therefore place the

> > > case before our expert gurus for their conslderation to arrive at the

> > > correct timimg.

> > > Past events in her life:

> > > Marriage: 24-5-1980

> > > Birth of daughter: 10-5-1982

> > > Birth of son: 6-8-1983

> > > Death of husband:18-3-1996

> > > Death of father:17-1-2001

> > >

> > > Nakshatra of daughter: kettai(Scorpio)

> > > Son: Arudra(Gemini)

> > > Younger sister: Anusham(Scorpio)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear tw853

Very good ananlysis. By the way what is your real Name. It is embarassing to

address you as tw853

 

--- tw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

>

>

> Dear All,

>

> Mrs. Maragatham's given TOB may be assumed sufficiently reliable on

> the the basis of the analysis given below.

>

> Any comment for the benefit of KP learners? Please!

>

> Thanks and best regards,

>

> tw

>

>

>

>

> 1. A. Maragatham, 24 Jan 1957, Th, 2:00 AM IST, Chennai, 13N04,

> 80E17, Sid Time 10:02:45, New KPA 23:10:03, Asc 04Sc22:39, Jupiter

> dasa balnce 13y:9m:22d (KPAstro SW)

>

> 2. First child, daughter, born on 10-05-1982 (Sa/Ve/Mo/Ma dasa)

>

> a/ As per 5th cusp Sbl Rule (Astrosecrets Part I pp 295-296, 304 &

> Part III, p 84; K.P. Year Book 2000, p 10; Hand Book on Astrology,

> Part II, pp 88-89)

>

> 5th cusp Stl is Saturn and Sbl is Ketu which is in Stl Sun & Sbl

> Jupiter

> Saturn, Ketu, Sun & Jupiter in Female signs Sc, Ta, Cp & Vi

> respectively, very strongly indicating Female

>

> b/ As per Raichur's Suggestion (Msg #1707 of Anant Raichur)

>

> 5th cusp & 11th cusp Sbl Ket is in Sbl Jupiter which is in Female

> sign Vi and its Sgl Mercury conjunct Female planet Venus;

> 2th cusp Sbl Moon is in Sbl Saturn which is in Female sign Sc and its

> Sgl Mars is Male planet.

> Strong indication of Female

>

> c/ As per Balasekar's Rule (Message # 1686 of Rao; K. P. Year Book

> 200, p 39)

> 5th cusp Sbl Is Ketu. Mars is in Ketu star. Ketu is in Stl Sun

> (10Cp26) which is in the first 15 deg of even house, i.e., Moon Hora

> indicating Female.

>

> d/ Child birth 2,5 & 11 houses are strongly indicated by dasa lords.

> Saturn signifies 2; 1; 8,11 ; 3,4 houses

> Venus 2; 2; 7,12; 7,12

> Moon 11; 12; 2,5; 9

> Mars 7; 5; --; 1,6

>

>

> 3. Second child, son, born 06-08-1983 (Sa/Mo/Sa/Ve dasa)

>

> a/ As per 5th cusp Sbl Rule,

> 7th cusp Stl is Sun and Sbl is Saturn which is in Stl Mercury & Sbl

> Mercury

> Sun & Saturn are Male planets but in Female signs Cp & Sc

> respectively; Mercury is in Male sign Sg;

> Since the Sbl of 7th Sbl is the decisive one, Male indication is

> stronger.

>

> b/ As per Raichur's Suggestion

>

> 7th cusp Sbl Saturn is in Sbl Mercury which is in Male sign Sg and

> its Sgl Jupiter is Male planet.

> 2th cusp Sbl Moon is in Sbl Saturn which is in Female sign Sc and its

> Sgl Mars is Male planet.

> 11th cusp Sbl Ket is in Sbl Jupiter which is in Female sign Virgo

> and its Sgl Mercury conjunct Female Venus;

> Equal indication for Male or Female

>

> c/ As per Balasekar's Rule,

>

> 7th cusp Sbl Saturn (18Sc23). No planet is in the star of Saturn.

> Saturn is in the second 15deg of even sign, i.e., Sun Hora indicating

> Male.

>

> d/ Child birth 2,5 & 11 houses are strongly significant.

> Saturn signifies 2; 1; 8,11 ; 3,4 houses

> Moon 11; 12; 2,5; 9

> Venus 2; 2; 7,12; 7,12

>

> 4. Marriage on 24-05-1980 (Sa/Ve/Mo/Ma)

>

> 2, 7 & 11 houses are srongly significant.

> Saturn 2; 1; 8,11 ; 3,4 houses

> Venus 2; 2; 7,12; 7,12

> Moon 11; 12; 2,5; 9

> Mars 7; 5; -- ;1,6

>

> 5. Husband's death 18-03-1996 (Me/Su/Mo/Ve dasa)

>

> Badhaka, Maraka & Moksha: 3,8,1 & 6 are sufficiently signified.

> Mercury 2; 2; 7,12; 8,11

> Sun 12; 3; 9; 10

> Moon 11; 12; 2,5; 9

> Venus 2; 2; 7,12; 7,12

>

> 6. Father's death 17-01-2001 (Me/Ra/Ve/Ve dasa)

>

> Badhaka, Maraka & Moksha: 11,10,3 & 8 are clearly significant.

> Mercury 2; 2; 7,12; 8,11

> Rahu 1,3,4; 5,1,6 11,1,2,5;

> Venus 2; 2; 7,12; 7,12

>

>

>

>

>

> , " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy "

> <ranga@m...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sir,

> > I read in one of the postings to this group that the child's gender

> > can be determined thus: If StarlordOf(SublordOf(SublordOf(5th

> Cusp)))

> > is placed in a Male sign, then the child will be male, else the

> child

> > will be female. For the given horoscope, assuming 2 am is correct

> > birth time, this rule appears to fail. What gives?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Rangarajan

> >

> > , anant raichur <anant_1608>

> wrote:

> > > gIVEN tIME OF 2.0 AM checked with incidents in Life NO CHANGE IS

> > REQUIRED

> > > dood luck

> > > --- gurusubra <gurusubra> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear members,

> > > > The following are the birth details of a lady. She is uncertain

> about

> > > > the exact time of birth though the date and year are known.

> > > > Name: A.Maragatham

> > > > DOB: 24-1-1957 Reported time: 2 A.M Place:chennai, Lat:13-04

> (N),

> > > > Long:80-17(E).

> > > > I tried to rectify the birth time by adopting various methods ,

> but I

> > > > get different timings and am therefore puzzled. I therefore

> place the

> > > > case before our expert gurus for their conslderation to arrive

> at the

> > > > correct timimg.

> > > > Past events in her life:

> > > > Marriage: 24-5-1980

> > > > Birth of daughter: 10-5-1982

> > > > Birth of son: 6-8-1983

> > > > Death of husband:18-3-1996

> > > > Death of father:17-1-2001

> > > >

> > > > Nakshatra of daughter: kettai(Scorpio)

> > > > Son: Arudra(Gemini)

> > > > Younger sister: Anusham(Scorpio)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >