Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Dear All, Any comment on houses for returning to home country from foreign land? Please. (1) 3,9 and 11 (Chamatkar Chintamani) (2) 3,9 and 11 ((KP Reader V, p 207) (3) 2,4 and 11 (K. Hariharan: Notable Persons & KP, p 47) (4) 2,8 and 11 (8th,12th from 9th, ending of long travels) (5) A rough review of 20 charts of some not so accurate TOBs indicates that out of 63 dasa items the frequencies of houses are: a/ 9th-- 30 (49%), b/ 3rd-- 26 (41%), c/ 11th-- 26 (41%), d/ 2nd-- 26 (41%), e/ 4th-- 23 (36%) & f/ 8th-- 18 (29%), where top three are consistent with first and second of 3,9 & 11 houses. Best regards, tw APPENDIX LIST OF REVIEW Sn Name ---------------- Asc --- Date -------- Dasa 1. Maria Callas -------- 05Sc21 20-02-1937 Mo/Ve/Ra 2. Bill Clinton --------- 12Vi29 1970 ------- Ra/Ra 3. Princes Diana ------- 24Sc23 1978 ------- Ra/Su 4. King Edward VIII -- 09Cp35 06-02-1952 Me/Ra/Ve ---------do------------ ---do-- 24-03-1953 Me/Ju/Sa 5. Indira Gandhi ------- 27Cn28 16-04-1941 Ra/Ju/Mo 6. Mahatma Gandhi --- 04Li40 12-06-1891 Ve/Ju/Mo ---------do------------ ----do- 18-07-1914 Mo/Ve/Me 7. Adolph Hitler ------- 04Li28 24-05-1913 Su/Ve/Sa 8. Jackie Kennedy-On 07Sc01 15-03-1975 Ma/Me/Sa 9. Swami Jnananannda 25Sg55 9-12-47--- Ma/Me/Ve 10. John Kerry ---------- 23Sc02 27-03-1969 Ju/Ju/Ke 11. Jeddu Krishnamurti 26Cp35 28-12-1921 Su/Ra/Ra 12. Napoleon Bonaparte 06Li17 20-03-1815 Ju/Ve/Sa 13. Pandit Nehru -------- 22Cn55 August 1912 Ve/Ve/Ve 14. Anais Nin ----------- 10Vi54 03-03-1923 Ve/Me/Su 15. Alfred Nobel ------- 05Li27 1859-------- Ra/Ve 16. Pele ------------------ 18Cn40 01-10-1977 Me/Su/Mo 17. Vladimir Putin ------ 10Li04 End 1990 --- Ju/Sa/Ke 18. Girish K Sarma ----- 21Cn36 End 1972 --- Ju/Mo 19. Vashishta N. Singh 00Pi58 1971 -------- Ke/Me 20. Swami Yogananda - 06Le36 09-06-1935 Mar/Ra/Ve Note: SN 1. MC – Greece opera singer who died of broken heart for Onassis; SN 9. SJ- Saint and scientist; SN 11. JK- TOB is taken from AstroDatabank source, not from KN Rao data bank source (M S Mehta: Planets and Travel Abroad, p 66-69) ; SN 14. AN- French-born American erotic novelist; SN 17. GKS- double doctorate scientist who became jobless for the rest of his life after returning from UK. (Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic Astrology, pp 490-493); SN 18. VNS- world known brilliant mathematician who became mentally ill after returning from US. (Bepin Behari: Astrological Biographies, pp 347-360; signification of 4th house of one's paternal home and one's family life is for Dr Singh's return, p 354 ) HOUSES RELATED TO RRETURNING TO HOME COUNTRY FROM FOREIGN LAND SN N/Dasa --- II III IV VIII IX XI 1. M Callas Moon D -- - - - - 9 - Venus B-- 2 3 - - - - Rahu A-- 2 3 4 - 9 11 2. B Clinton Rahu D -- 2 3 - 8 9 11 Rahu B -- 2 3 - 8 9 11 3. Diana Rahu D -- 2 - - 8 9 - Sun B -- - - - 8 9 - 4. Edward VIII A. Merc D-- - - - 8 - - Rahu B-- 2 3 4 8 - 11 Venus A -- - 3 4 - 9 - B. Merc D -- - - - 8 - - Jupiter B-- 2 3 - - - 11 Saturn A -- 2 3 - 8 - 11 5. I Gandhi Rahu D -- - - 4 - 9 11 Jupiter B -- - - - - 9 - Moon A -- 2 - 4 - - - 6. M Gandhi. A. Venus D -- - 3 - 8 - - Jupiter B -- - 3 - - - 11 Moon A -- - - - - 9 - B. Moon D-- - - - - 9 - Venus B -- - 3 - 8 - - Mercu A -- - - - - 9 - 7. Hitler Sun D--- - 3 - - - 11 Venus B -- - - - 8 - - Saturn A -- - - 4 - 9 8. Jackie Ke-nnedy-O Mars D -- 2 - - - 9 - Merc B -- - 3 4 8 - 11 Saturn A -- - 3 4 - - - 9. Jnananda Mars D -- - - 4 - - 11 Mercu B -- - - - - 9 11 Venus A -- - - - - - 11 10. J Kerry Jupiter D -- 2 - 4 - 9 - Jupiter B -- 2 - 4 - 9 - Ketu A -- 2 3 - - - - 11. J Ksishna-murti A. Sun D -- - 3 - - - - Rahu B -- 2 - - - 9 11 Rahu A -- 2 - - - 9 11 B. Rahu D-- 2 - - - 9 11 Jupiter B-- 2 - - - - 11 12. Napoleon Jupiter D - - 3 - - - - Venus B - 2 - - 8 9 - Saturn A - - - 4 - 9 - 13. Nehru Venus D -- - 3 4 - - 11 Venus B -- - 3 4 - - 11 Venus A -- - 3 4 - - 11 14. A Nin Venus D - 2 - 4 - 9 - MercurB-- - 3 - - - 11 Sun A -- - - - - - - 15. A Nobel Rahu D -- - 3 4 - 9 11 Venus B -- - - - 8 - 11 16. Pele Mercu D -- - - 4 - 9 - Sun B -- 2 3 - - - - Moon A -- - - - - 9 - 17. V Putin Jupiter D-- - 3 - 8 - - Saturn B-- 2 - 4 - - - Ketu A -- 2 - - 8 9 11 18. G K Sarma Jupiter D -- 2 - - - 9 - Moon B -- - - - - - - 19. V N Singh Ketu D -- 2 - - - 9 11 Mercu B-- - - 4 - - - 20. Yogananda Mars D --- 2 - 4 8 9 - Rahu B --- 2 3 4 8 9 - Ven A --- 2 3 4 - - 11 Note: (1) In some cases significaotrs are adjusted as per " ORB Theory " which says a planet slightly (within 1 or 2 deg) behind the cusp of a house, gains the significance of the following house as though it is in the next house, and the effect is stronger if there is no other planet in the following house. (K.P. & ASTROLOGY, Year Book, 2000, pp 82-83; 2003, p 45 & 2005 p 61 and Raichur & KPAstro SWs) (2) Hindu conjunction and aspects are used for significators of Rahu and Ketu. (In KP Reader I, p 113, Western aspects are encouraged to use for accurate predictions and orbs are given in p 117. However Hindu conjunction and aspects are common in example charts in KP Reader III, IV, and V & VI.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Dear tw853 Very good study. Keep it up> 9,and 11 have rational justification. 4 is one's home. If a person is staying for a long time in one ccountry, it may be treated as residence indicated by 4th, and then 3rd has relevance, as losing one's residence. In fact we use these houses, of course with 12, for going abroad or to a foren environment. Including house 2, or 8 does not seem justifiable. good luck --- tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > Dear All, > > Any comment on houses for returning to home country from foreign > land? Please. > > (1) 3,9 and 11 (Chamatkar Chintamani) > (2) 3,9 and 11 ((KP Reader V, p 207) > (3) 2,4 and 11 (K. Hariharan: Notable Persons & KP, p 47) > (4) 2,8 and 11 (8th,12th from 9th, ending of long travels) > (5) A rough review of 20 charts of some not so accurate TOBs > indicates that out of 63 dasa items the frequencies of houses are: > > a/ 9th-- 30 (49%), > b/ 3rd-- 26 (41%), > c/ 11th-- 26 (41%), > d/ 2nd-- 26 (41%), > e/ 4th-- 23 (36%) & > f/ 8th-- 18 (29%), > > where top three are consistent with first and second of 3,9 & 11 > houses. > > > Best regards, > > tw > > > > > APPENDIX > > LIST OF REVIEW > > Sn Name ---------------- Asc --- Date -------- Dasa > 1. Maria Callas -------- 05Sc21 20-02-1937 Mo/Ve/Ra > 2. Bill Clinton --------- 12Vi29 1970 ------- Ra/Ra > 3. Princes Diana ------- 24Sc23 1978 ------- Ra/Su > 4. King Edward VIII -- 09Cp35 06-02-1952 Me/Ra/Ve > ---------do------------ ---do-- 24-03-1953 Me/Ju/Sa > 5. Indira Gandhi ------- 27Cn28 16-04-1941 Ra/Ju/Mo > 6. Mahatma Gandhi --- 04Li40 12-06-1891 Ve/Ju/Mo > ---------do------------ ----do- 18-07-1914 Mo/Ve/Me > 7. Adolph Hitler ------- 04Li28 24-05-1913 Su/Ve/Sa > 8. Jackie Kennedy-On 07Sc01 15-03-1975 Ma/Me/Sa > 9. Swami Jnananannda 25Sg55 9-12-47--- Ma/Me/Ve > 10. John Kerry ---------- 23Sc02 27-03-1969 Ju/Ju/Ke > 11. Jeddu Krishnamurti 26Cp35 28-12-1921 Su/Ra/Ra > 12. Napoleon Bonaparte 06Li17 20-03-1815 Ju/Ve/Sa > 13. Pandit Nehru -------- 22Cn55 August 1912 Ve/Ve/Ve > 14. Anais Nin ----------- 10Vi54 03-03-1923 Ve/Me/Su > 15. Alfred Nobel ------- 05Li27 1859-------- Ra/Ve > 16. Pele ------------------ 18Cn40 01-10-1977 Me/Su/Mo > 17. Vladimir Putin ------ 10Li04 End 1990 --- Ju/Sa/Ke > 18. Girish K Sarma ----- 21Cn36 End 1972 --- Ju/Mo > 19. Vashishta N. Singh 00Pi58 1971 -------- Ke/Me > 20. Swami Yogananda - 06Le36 09-06-1935 Mar/Ra/Ve > > Note: > SN 1. MC – Greece opera singer who died of broken heart for > Onassis; > SN 9. SJ- Saint and scientist; > SN 11. JK- TOB is taken from AstroDatabank source, not from KN Rao > data bank source (M S Mehta: Planets and Travel Abroad, p 66-69) ; > SN 14. AN- French-born American erotic novelist; > SN 17. GKS- double doctorate scientist who became jobless for the > rest of his life after returning from UK. (Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic > Astrology, pp 490-493); > SN 18. VNS- world known brilliant mathematician who became mentally > ill after returning from US. (Bepin Behari: Astrological Biographies, > pp 347-360; signification of 4th house of one's paternal home and > one's family life is for Dr Singh's return, p 354 ) > > > HOUSES RELATED TO RRETURNING TO HOME COUNTRY FROM FOREIGN LAND > > SN N/Dasa --- II III IV VIII IX XI > 1. M Callas > Moon D -- - - - - 9 - > Venus B-- 2 3 - - - - > Rahu A-- 2 3 4 - 9 11 > 2. B Clinton > Rahu D -- 2 3 - 8 9 11 > Rahu B -- 2 3 - 8 9 11 > 3. Diana > Rahu D -- 2 - - 8 9 - > Sun B -- - - - 8 9 - > 4. Edward VIII > A. Merc D-- - - - 8 - - > Rahu B-- 2 3 4 8 - 11 > Venus A -- - 3 4 - 9 - > B. Merc D -- - - - 8 - - > Jupiter B-- 2 3 - - - 11 > Saturn A -- 2 3 - 8 - 11 > 5. I Gandhi > Rahu D -- - - 4 - 9 11 > Jupiter B -- - - - - 9 - > Moon A -- 2 - 4 - - - > 6. M Gandhi. > A. Venus D -- - 3 - 8 - - > Jupiter B -- - 3 - - - 11 > Moon A -- - - - - 9 - > B. Moon D-- - - - - 9 - > Venus B -- - 3 - 8 - - > Mercu A -- - - - - 9 - > 7. Hitler > Sun D--- - 3 - - - 11 > Venus B -- - - - 8 - - > Saturn A -- - - 4 - 9 > 8. Jackie Ke-nnedy-O > > Mars D -- 2 - - - 9 - > Merc B -- - 3 4 8 - 11 > Saturn A -- - 3 4 - - - > 9. Jnananda > Mars D -- - - 4 - - 11 > Mercu B -- - - - - 9 11 > Venus A -- - - - - - 11 > 10. J Kerry > Jupiter D -- 2 - 4 - 9 - > Jupiter B -- 2 - 4 - 9 - > Ketu A -- 2 3 - - - - > 11. J Ksishna-murti > A. Sun D -- - 3 - - - - > Rahu B -- 2 - - - 9 11 > Rahu A -- 2 - - - 9 11 > B. Rahu D-- 2 - - - 9 11 > Jupiter B-- 2 - - - - 11 > 12. Napoleon > Jupiter D - - 3 - - - - > Venus B - 2 - - 8 9 - > Saturn A - - - 4 - 9 - > 13. Nehru > Venus D -- - 3 4 - - 11 > Venus B -- - 3 4 - - 11 > Venus A -- - 3 4 - - 11 > 14. A Nin > Venus D - 2 - 4 - 9 - > MercurB-- - 3 - - - 11 > Sun A -- - - - - - - > 15. A Nobel > Rahu D -- - 3 4 - 9 11 > Venus B -- - - - 8 - 11 > 16. Pele > Mercu D -- - - 4 - 9 - > Sun B -- 2 3 - - - - > Moon A -- - - - - 9 - > 17. V Putin > Jupiter D-- - 3 - 8 - - > Saturn B-- 2 - 4 - - - > Ketu A -- 2 - - 8 9 11 > 18. G K Sarma > Jupiter D -- 2 - - - 9 - > Moon B -- - - - - - - > 19. V N Singh > Ketu D -- 2 - - - 9 11 > Mercu B-- - - 4 - - - > 20. Yogananda > Mars D --- 2 - 4 8 9 - > Rahu B --- 2 3 4 8 9 - > Ven A --- 2 3 4 - - 11 > > Note: > > (1) In some cases significaotrs are adjusted as per " ORB Theory " > which says a planet slightly (within 1 or 2 deg) behind the cusp of a > house, gains the significance of the following house as though it is > in the next house, and the effect is stronger if there is no other > planet in the following house. (K.P. & ASTROLOGY, Year Book, 2000, pp > 82-83; 2003, p 45 & 2005 p 61 and Raichur & KPAstro SWs) > (2) Hindu conjunction and aspects are used for significators of > Rahu and Ketu. (In KP Reader I, p 113, Western aspects are encouraged > to use for accurate predictions and orbs are given in p 117. However > Hindu conjunction and aspects are common in example charts in KP > Reader III, IV, and V & VI.) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2005 Report Share Posted February 20, 2005 Dear Shri Anant Raichur, Thank you for valuable comment. Best wishes and regards, tw , anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > Dear tw853 > Very good study. Keep it up> 9,and 11 have rational justification. 4 is one's > home. If a person is staying for a long time in one ccountry, it may be treated > as residence indicated by 4th, and then 3rd has relevance, as losing one's > residence. In fact we use these houses, of course with 12, for going abroad or > to a foren environment. Including house 2, or 8 does not seem justifiable. > good luck > > --- tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > Any comment on houses for returning to home country from foreign > > land? Please. > > > > (1) 3,9 and 11 (Chamatkar Chintamani) > > (2) 3,9 and 11 ((KP Reader V, p 207) > > (3) 2,4 and 11 (K. Hariharan: Notable Persons & KP, p 47) > > (4) 2,8 and 11 (8th,12th from 9th, ending of long travels) > > (5) A rough review of 20 charts of some not so accurate TOBs > > indicates that out of 63 dasa items the frequencies of houses are: > > > > a/ 9th-- 30 (49%), > > b/ 3rd-- 26 (41%), > > c/ 11th-- 26 (41%), > > d/ 2nd-- 26 (41%), > > e/ 4th-- 23 (36%) & > > f/ 8th-- 18 (29%), > > > > where top three are consistent with first and second of 3,9 & 11 > > houses. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > APPENDIX > > > > LIST OF REVIEW > > > > Sn Name ---------------- Asc --- Date -------- Dasa > > 1. Maria Callas -------- 05Sc21 20-02-1937 Mo/Ve/Ra > > 2. Bill Clinton --------- 12Vi29 1970 ------- Ra/Ra > > 3. Princes Diana ------- 24Sc23 1978 ------- Ra/Su > > 4. King Edward VIII -- 09Cp35 06-02-1952 Me/Ra/Ve > > ---------do------------ ---do-- 24-03-1953 Me/Ju/Sa > > 5. Indira Gandhi ------- 27Cn28 16-04-1941 Ra/Ju/Mo > > 6. Mahatma Gandhi --- 04Li40 12-06-1891 Ve/Ju/Mo > > ---------do------------ ----do- 18-07-1914 Mo/Ve/Me > > 7. Adolph Hitler ------- 04Li28 24-05-1913 Su/Ve/Sa > > 8. Jackie Kennedy-On 07Sc01 15-03-1975 Ma/Me/Sa > > 9. Swami Jnananannda 25Sg55 9-12-47--- Ma/Me/Ve > > 10. John Kerry ---------- 23Sc02 27-03-1969 Ju/Ju/Ke > > 11. Jeddu Krishnamurti 26Cp35 28-12-1921 Su/Ra/Ra > > 12. Napoleon Bonaparte 06Li17 20-03-1815 Ju/Ve/Sa > > 13. Pandit Nehru -------- 22Cn55 August 1912 Ve/Ve/Ve > > 14. Anais Nin ----------- 10Vi54 03-03-1923 Ve/Me/Su > > 15. Alfred Nobel ------- 05Li27 1859-------- Ra/Ve > > 16. Pele ------------------ 18Cn40 01-10-1977 Me/Su/Mo > > 17. Vladimir Putin ------ 10Li04 End 1990 --- Ju/Sa/Ke > > 18. Girish K Sarma ----- 21Cn36 End 1972 --- Ju/Mo > > 19. Vashishta N. Singh 00Pi58 1971 -------- Ke/Me > > 20. Swami Yogananda - 06Le36 09-06-1935 Mar/Ra/Ve > > > > Note: > > SN 1. MC – Greece opera singer who died of broken heart for > > Onassis; > > SN 9. SJ- Saint and scientist; > > SN 11. JK- TOB is taken from AstroDatabank source, not from KN Rao > > data bank source (M S Mehta: Planets and Travel Abroad, p 66- 69) ; > > SN 14. AN- French-born American erotic novelist; > > SN 17. GKS- double doctorate scientist who became jobless for the > > rest of his life after returning from UK. (Sanjay Rath: Crux of Vedic > > Astrology, pp 490-493); > > SN 18. VNS- world known brilliant mathematician who became mentally > > ill after returning from US. (Bepin Behari: Astrological Biographies, > > pp 347-360; signification of 4th house of one's paternal home and > > one's family life is for Dr Singh's return, p 354 ) > > > > > > HOUSES RELATED TO RRETURNING TO HOME COUNTRY FROM FOREIGN LAND > > > > SN N/Dasa --- II III IV VIII IX XI > > 1. M Callas > > Moon D -- - - - - 9 - > > Venus B-- 2 3 - - - - > > Rahu A-- 2 3 4 - 9 11 > > 2. B Clinton > > Rahu D -- 2 3 - 8 9 11 > > Rahu B -- 2 3 - 8 9 11 > > 3. Diana > > Rahu D -- 2 - - 8 9 - > > Sun B -- - - - 8 9 - > > 4. Edward VIII > > A. Merc D-- - - - 8 - - > > Rahu B-- 2 3 4 8 - 11 > > Venus A -- - 3 4 - 9 - > > B. Merc D -- - - - 8 - - > > Jupiter B-- 2 3 - - - 11 > > Saturn A -- 2 3 - 8 - 11 > > 5. I Gandhi > > Rahu D -- - - 4 - 9 11 > > Jupiter B -- - - - - 9 - > > Moon A -- 2 - 4 - - - > > 6. M Gandhi. > > A. Venus D -- - 3 - 8 - - > > Jupiter B -- - 3 - - - 11 > > Moon A -- - - - - 9 - > > B. Moon D-- - - - - 9 - > > Venus B -- - 3 - 8 - - > > Mercu A -- - - - - 9 - > > 7. Hitler > > Sun D--- - 3 - - - 11 > > Venus B -- - - - 8 - - > > Saturn A -- - - 4 - 9 > > 8. Jackie Ke-nnedy-O > > > > Mars D -- 2 - - - 9 - > > Merc B -- - 3 4 8 - 11 > > Saturn A -- - 3 4 - - - > > 9. Jnananda > > Mars D -- - - 4 - - 11 > > Mercu B -- - - - - 9 11 > > Venus A -- - - - - - 11 > > 10. J Kerry > > Jupiter D -- 2 - 4 - 9 - > > Jupiter B -- 2 - 4 - 9 - > > Ketu A -- 2 3 - - - - > > 11. J Ksishna-murti > > A. Sun D -- - 3 - - - - > > Rahu B -- 2 - - - 9 11 > > Rahu A -- 2 - - - 9 11 > > B. Rahu D-- 2 - - - 9 11 > > Jupiter B-- 2 - - - - 11 > > 12. Napoleon > > Jupiter D - - 3 - - - - > > Venus B - 2 - - 8 9 - > > Saturn A - - - 4 - 9 - > > 13. Nehru > > Venus D -- - 3 4 - - 11 > > Venus B -- - 3 4 - - 11 > > Venus A -- - 3 4 - - 11 > > 14. A Nin > > Venus D - 2 - 4 - 9 - > > MercurB-- - 3 - - - 11 > > Sun A -- - - - - - - > > 15. A Nobel > > Rahu D -- - 3 4 - 9 11 > > Venus B -- - - - 8 - 11 > > 16. Pele > > Mercu D -- - - 4 - 9 - > > Sun B -- 2 3 - - - - > > Moon A -- - - - - 9 - > > 17. V Putin > > Jupiter D-- - 3 - 8 - - > > Saturn B-- 2 - 4 - - - > > Ketu A -- 2 - - 8 9 11 > > 18. G K Sarma > > Jupiter D -- 2 - - - 9 - > > Moon B -- - - - - - - > > 19. V N Singh > > Ketu D -- 2 - - - 9 11 > > Mercu B-- - - 4 - - - > > 20. Yogananda > > Mars D --- 2 - 4 8 9 - > > Rahu B --- 2 3 4 8 9 - > > Ven A --- 2 3 4 - - 11 > > > > Note: > > > > (1) In some cases significaotrs are adjusted as per " ORB Theory " > > which says a planet slightly (within 1 or 2 deg) behind the cusp of a > > house, gains the significance of the following house as though it is > > in the next house, and the effect is stronger if there is no other > > planet in the following house. (K.P. & ASTROLOGY, Year Book, 2000, pp > > 82-83; 2003, p 45 & 2005 p 61 and Raichur & KPAstro SWs) > > (2) Hindu conjunction and aspects are used for significators of > > Rahu and Ketu. (In KP Reader I, p 113, Western aspects are encouraged > > to use for accurate predictions and orbs are given in p 117. However > > Hindu conjunction and aspects are common in example charts in KP > > Reader III, IV, and V & VI.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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