Guest guest Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Dear Ron, Thank you for your invitation to this list. I am using JHora, and I understand you have a new ayanamsa (New KP ayanamsa), but the difference is negligible in this case. I shall give this a shot anyway. The transit for that day was Rahu in loha and Venus is the sub lord. Venus is debilitated on the natal lagna conjoining Rahu. In natal chart, Venus is in Ketu’s sub. The period was Ven/Ke/Ju/Su Sun on that day was debilitated. The 5th from natal Sun is retrograde Saturn. The transits for the day has Rahu and deb. Venus conjoining Saturn. In natal chart, the dispositor of Saturn is in Mars’ sign in the house of sex Mars indicates a juvenile). Perhaps a paedophliac? (gulp L) I’d say it’s sexual misconduct with the boss’ daughter and he got fired on the spot.. Love, Swee p/s Hiya Sandy!! rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: Data for this weeks KPBC is as follows: Male DOB 22nd May 1951 02:55 pm EDT +4.00 Rochester, New York 43N09'17 " 077W36'57 " Ascendant 3 Virgo 35' 43 " Geocentric angles. What happened on 17th October 1977? was it? 1. Murdered first victim? 2. Took monastic vows? 3. Fell down steps and broke both legs? 4. Dismissed on the spot by employer for sexual misconduct when caught in the act with employer's daughter? Please submit assessments by Fri 00:00am 18th Feb 05 after which the answer will be provided. Ron Gaunt India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Hello ron Though your options make prediction ambiguous yet I will prefer no 3 option( Fell down steps and broke both legs) after going through data given by you. Thanks with Regards AMIT rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: Data for this weeks KPBC is as follows:Male DOB 22nd May 195102:55 pm EDT +4.00Rochester, New York43N09'17" 077W36'57"Ascendant 3 Virgo 35' 43" Geocentric angles.What happened on 17th October 1977? was it?1. Murdered first victim?2. Took monastic vows?3. Fell down steps and broke both legs?4. Dismissed on the spot by employer for sexual misconduct when caught in the act with employer's daughter?Please submit assessments by Fri 00:00am 18th Feb 05 after which the answer will be provided.Ron Gaunt India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Dear Members, On the overall look at the data provided there appears to be some mistake about the time zone. When the eastern most part of USA is @ about 70 W, it is highly unlikely that someone would use 60 W as their longitudinal meridian for standard time. According to me the time zone should refer to (-)5.00 instead of (-) 4.00 The Siderial Time can be worke out without using this time zone factor. As someone pointed out, actual sid.time works out to 6.43.3 and the ascendant for this time @ 77.36.57 W works out to Virgo 15.17.13 Sid. time workout is as given below: Sid time @ 0.00 hrs GMT on 22-5-1951 15 55 11 Add correction @ 2/3 sec for 77.36.57 0 0 52 -------------- Sid time @ 0.00 hrs @ Rochester 15 56 03 Add time upto LMT of birth 14 44 33 Add correction @ 10 Sec per Hr 0 2 27 ------------- 30 43 03 Deduct 24 0 0 Actual sid time @birth ------------- 6 43 03 Period operating on 17-10-1977 was Ven-Ket-Sat-Sat The sub lord of 8th - mercury- is strongest significator of 12th and deposited in 8th ( marak sthana for 7th) The strongest significators for 8th house are sun, mar, and sat. Of these sun and mar are coinjoined and posited in 8th which shows voilence. Further sun the significator of 8th ( marak sthana for 7th ) represented by ketu is also the strong significator of 2nd. Therefore it is crystal clear that this gentleman(?) has murdered someone on 17-10-1977. Now we will see the transit of ven - the dasha lord, ket - bhukti lord and sat - antara and sookshma lord on 17-10-1977, Ven -transiting over natal sat, star of sun ( sign. of 8th and 2nd) sub of ketu ( in 12th, and also the star lord of 8th house) Sat - transiting in leo owned by sun and star of ketu Ketu - transiting in star of mercury ( the sub of 8th )and sub of ven Therefore the transits of all the period lords also point out to 8th and 2nd houses and thus support the reading of a murder. So the alternative No. 1 subhash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Dear Subhash, You're right that normal time zone is '5hrW'for Rochester, NY, USA, 77W37, 43N09. Because of Daylight Saving Time/Summer Time (one hr ahead of normal time) for DOB 22-05-1951 '4hrW' time zone is taken. Best regards, tw , " subhash_ektare " <subhash_ektare> wrote: > > Dear Members, > > On the overall look at the data provided there appears to be some > mistake about the time zone. When the eastern most part of USA is @ > about 70 W, it is highly unlikely that someone would use 60 W as > their longitudinal meridian for standard time. According to me the > time zone should refer to (-)5.00 instead of (-) 4.00 > > The Siderial Time can be worke out without using this time zone > factor. As someone pointed out, actual sid.time works out to 6.43.3 > and the ascendant for this time @ 77.36.57 W works out to Virgo > 15.17.13 > Sid. time workout is as given below: > Sid time @ 0.00 hrs GMT on 22-5-1951 15 55 11 > Add correction @ 2/3 sec for 77.36.57 0 0 52 > -------------- > Sid time @ 0.00 hrs @ Rochester 15 56 03 > Add time upto LMT of birth 14 44 33 > Add correction @ 10 Sec per Hr 0 2 27 > ------------- > 30 43 03 > Deduct 24 0 0 > Actual sid time @birth ------------- > 6 43 03 > > Period operating on 17-10-1977 was Ven-Ket-Sat-Sat The sub lord of > 8th - mercury- is strongest significator of 12th and deposited in 8th > ( marak sthana for 7th) The strongest significators for 8th house > are sun, mar, and sat. Of these sun and mar are coinjoined and > posited in 8th which shows voilence. Further sun the significator of > 8th ( marak sthana for 7th ) represented by ketu is also the strong > significator of 2nd. Therefore it is crystal clear that this > gentleman(?) has murdered someone on 17-10-1977. > > Now we will see the transit of ven - the dasha lord, ket - bhukti > lord and sat - antara and sookshma lord on 17-10-1977, > Ven -transiting over natal sat, star of sun ( sign. of 8th and 2nd) > sub of ketu ( in 12th, and also the star lord of 8th house) > Sat - transiting in leo owned by sun and star of ketu > Ketu - transiting in star of mercury ( the sub of 8th )and sub of ven > Therefore the transits of all the period lords also point out to 8th > and 2nd houses and thus support the reading of a murder. So the > alternative No. 1 > > subhash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Dear Subash The time is given as EDT, Eastern Daylight Saving Time, which is 1 hr ahead of Normal ET (eastern time), so it is correct --- subhash_ektare <subhash_ektare wrote: > > > Dear Members, > > On the overall look at the data provided there appears to be some > mistake about the time zone. When the eastern most part of USA is @ > about 70 W, it is highly unlikely that someone would use 60 W as > their longitudinal meridian for standard time. According to me the > time zone should refer to (-)5.00 instead of (-) 4.00 > > The Siderial Time can be worke out without using this time zone > factor. As someone pointed out, actual sid.time works out to 6.43.3 > and the ascendant for this time @ 77.36.57 W works out to Virgo > 15.17.13 > Sid. time workout is as given below: > Sid time @ 0.00 hrs GMT on 22-5-1951 15 55 11 > Add correction @ 2/3 sec for 77.36.57 0 0 52 > -------------- > Sid time @ 0.00 hrs @ Rochester 15 56 03 > Add time upto LMT of birth 14 44 33 > Add correction @ 10 Sec per Hr 0 2 27 > ------------- > 30 43 03 > Deduct 24 0 0 > Actual sid time @birth ------------- > 6 43 03 > > Period operating on 17-10-1977 was Ven-Ket-Sat-Sat The sub lord of > 8th - mercury- is strongest significator of 12th and deposited in 8th > ( marak sthana for 7th) The strongest significators for 8th house > are sun, mar, and sat. Of these sun and mar are coinjoined and > posited in 8th which shows voilence. Further sun the significator of > 8th ( marak sthana for 7th ) represented by ketu is also the strong > significator of 2nd. Therefore it is crystal clear that this > gentleman(?) has murdered someone on 17-10-1977. > > Now we will see the transit of ven - the dasha lord, ket - bhukti > lord and sat - antara and sookshma lord on 17-10-1977, > Ven -transiting over natal sat, star of sun ( sign. of 8th and 2nd) > sub of ketu ( in 12th, and also the star lord of 8th house) > Sat - transiting in leo owned by sun and star of ketu > Ketu - transiting in star of mercury ( the sub of 8th )and sub of ven > Therefore the transits of all the period lords also point out to 8th > and 2nd houses and thus support the reading of a murder. So the > alternative No. 1 > > subhash > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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