Guest guest Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Dear Ron, TW, and KP Groupies, Thanks TW for your kind words... Ron - I think, also, that the birth time is probably very close to accurate - or at the very least - within a 16 minute time frame of accuracy. I haven't had any time to seriously fudge around with it, but I would venture to say that he was born between 2:55 and 3:16 PM. To be honest - I wouldn't have even attempted to analyze the chart had I known (prior to working on it) that the birth time was unconfirmed...but no apologies necessary. To me, the chart itself - upon a close inspection of many things including KP considerations of star (and sub lords) - showed a propensity (and an actual sadistic enjoyment) toward manipulative power struggles and violence involving women - so no harm done. It was a good exercise. And after checking out the last SE chart for Oct 12, 1977 - the arrows are all pointing in the same direction - so I would say the birth time is very close to the time you gave. All the Best, Sandy Crowther http://www.jupitersweb.com tw853 [tw853] Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:33 AM Re: KPBC9 - early termination Dear Sandy, Let me sincerely congratulate for your amazing accurate transit which helps me to choose the right one from sanyasin vis serial killer. Best regards, tw P.S. 'Hillside Strangler' files claim for wages Bianchi, serving a 118-year term, claims evidence withheld Thursday, June 27, 2002 THE ASSOCIATED PRESS BELLINGHAM -- Kenneth Bianchi, convicted in the " Hillside Strangler " serial murder case, has filed a claim against Whatcom County seeking hundreds of thousands of dollars for lost wages and emotional distress. Bianchi claims that police and prosecutors withheld key evidence, leading him to plead guilty to the murders of seven women in 1979. Two of the victims were students at Western Washington University, and the five others were women strangled and left on open hillsides in Los Angeles in late 1977 and early 1978. Bianchi is serving a term of more than 118 years in the Washington deaths at the state penitentiary in Walla Walla. He also was sentenced to five life terms in California. Bianchi sent his claim to Whatcom County Executive Pete Kremen earlier this month. A motion to withdraw his guilty plea based on the allegedly withheld evidence was rejected in March by Whatcom County Superior Court Judge Steven Mura. The judge ruled that Bianchi had produced no new evidence. Bianchi's claim seeks up to $100 per day for 23 years of lost wages, in addition to punitive damages and damages for emotional distress. Bianchi alleges that Bellingham police withheld proof that two Washington victims were seen alive by officers on the night of their deaths, after Bianchi had returned to his home. However, the police report cited by Bianchi does not give a time for the women's sighting. For that, Bianchi relies on a report filed by a friend of the victims. Bianchi also claims that a police officer took a hair from him and took it to an investigator at the cul-de-sac where the women's bodies were found in a car. Bianchi says that he developed a false impression of the strength of the prosecution's case because of the allegedly withheld evidence, and thus decided to plead guilty. Whatcom County Prosecutor Dave McEachran dismissed Bianchi's claim. " It's absolutely ridiculous, as is everything else that he has sent to us and moved for in the past 23 years, " McEachran said. " Kenneth Bianchi was just guilty as sin. " McEachran said he would move for dismissal of any lawsuit that follows the claim. , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > > I am terminating this Blind Chart early, as I have just found > out that the subject had an unconfirmed time of birth. > > I do try to stick with only charts where there appears to be a > reasonable chance that the time is correct or nearly so ie. where > charts are not on the hour, half hour or quarter hour. Data is > obtained mainly from credited sources where Birth data is > classified AA. I also do a quick prior check myself to see > whether I consider the data valid. This particular case slipped > through the net because it came from my files of many years ago, > where I used data from what I thought was a trusted source. > Today I would be more rigorous in my checking of new data. > This teaches me to recheck old data. > > The native of the chart was Kenneth A. Bianchi, the Hillside > Strangler, who along with his accomplice, cousin Angelo Buono. > murdered 10 young women. The first killing on the 17th October > 1977 was in a way accidental. Yolanda Washington the victim > was a bystander when her co worker sold a 'trick' list to Angelo > and Ken. They had decided to go in for pimping, and bought a > list of men who they thought wanted call girls to come to their > homes. But it wasn't correct. They couldn't find the girl who > sold them the list but they found Yolanda. She got into the > car and had sex with both of them, but was strangled on impulse > by Bianchi. Bianchi on his own murdered two college students at > Bellingham Washington on 11th January 1979. He was arrested the > next day. He was sentenced in Nov 1983 to life in prison, but > was granted the right to receive parole as he submitted evidence > against Buono. While in prison, he married on Oct 1989. > > I do suspect that the time is correct or nearly so, because > Sandy was spot on in her assessment - even down to the detail of > using his hands to murder (he strangled his victims) TW and > Subhash also got the correct answer. Also my own assessment > rated the chart as one of the most malefic I have ever seen > (based on the time given). > > My apologies to Members who took the time to attempt the Chart. > > Sandy's and TWs and Subhash's analysis' are appended. > > > Ron Gaunt > > > .................................................................... ......................................... > SANDY,S ANALYSIS > > > Dear Ron and Group, > > This chart was bugging me so being a glutton for punishment :-) > - I picked it back up for another look. I just cannot easily > dismiss the dusthana/maraka/badhaka activations, the powerful > aspects of an adverse nature, the fact that Jupiter is Venus' > star, sub and sub sub lord, is badhaka and lord of the 8th - > along with a multitude of other things that Iam finding are not > at all of a monastic or spiritual nature. > > I believe this man was a serial murderer, and therefore my > selection is number 1: " Murdered his first victim " . > > The natal and the transit charts both speak to me of violence > toward women - actually from Rasi to Navamsha to Transit charts. > In addition to what I said in my earlier email, Ve/Ur conjoined > in the 12th from Pluto and the maraka 2nd from the Su/Ma > (violent) conjunction, while square badhaka Jupiter and > Sa/Ne (end of life) from the 1st, leads me to believe that he > exhibited unprovoked maniacal and violent behavior toward women - > who experiencedsudden death (Ve/Ur) at his hands. > > > On October 17, 1977, transit Pluto conjoining T Rahu in the 1st > (powerful violence) conjoining natal Neptune (involving matters > of life) and both opposing the transit Ketu conjunction to natal > badhaka Jupiter in the maraka 7th, while transit Venus - > debilitated in Virgo - conjoining natal death lord Saturn from > the 12th and opposing natal Jupiter - these aspects are > just too powerful for me to think that this man has any kind of > spiritual nature. (Perhaps I'm losing my marbles though.) > > I think the chart is very descriptive of a murderer. Natal Venus > is disposed of by Mercury (lagna lord) in the house of Mars and > the star of Ketu, while the Ma/Su (aggression/violence) > conjunction is in the 12th from Venus (women). Death for many > women was perhaps sudden (Ve/Ur) and violent (natal > Pluto in the 2nd from Ve/Ur), and may have involved powerful > dominance andcontrol, by using force with his hands to kill (with > Me/Ve/PL/Ra alltransiting his first, a Mercury (hands) lagna > lord, and in light of the aspects already mentioned above. > > > > It's late, I'm tired, and I could be very wrong - but I just > can't see it any other way in light of the above, and more which > I have not written. Forgive me if this man is, in fact, a holy > man and not a mass murderer as I view him to be. :-( That's my 2 > cents. > > > > All the Best, > > Sandy Crowther > > .................................................................... ................................. > > TWs ANALYSIS > > Dear Ron and All, > > 1. KPBC9 is agrreable with the KP general rule to become a > sanyasin i.e. the sublord of the cusp of the Ascendant should be > a > significator of 9 (tapasthana) or 10 (karmaathana) and also 12 > (mokshasthana) and also be connected with Saturn, the karaka for > Sanyasa. > > 2. The Moon in the sub of Saturn shows high degree of mental > concentration. > > 3. But the Sun does not occupy the sub of planets strongly > connected to houses 5, 9 & 12 for one to be deeply religious; > instead sub Venus indicates 7,10,4,7,8 & 3 houses. > > 4. Moreover, for spiritual success (siddhi) the sublord > Mercury of 11th cusp signifies 12,8,1,2 & 10 houses instead of > required 5th (initiation), 10th (sadhana) & 11th (siddhi). > > 5. In addition the timing of 17-10-1977 (Ve/Ke/Mo dasa & > transit) is not indicating 5th house (initiation for sanyasin). > > 6. Almost exact conjunction of Sun and Mars opposite to > Moon, especially in Scorpio, aspected by Saturn opposite stronger > Jupiter are indicators of a serial killer, and with combination > of Venus in Gemini, KPBC9 may not be a sanyasin i.e. No 2. > > 7. May not be No.4 since 10th is strong and also may not > No.3 due to lack of indicators in natal chart despite of some > indications at that timing. > > 8. The possible answer is No. 1. > > > Best regards, > > tw > > .................................................................... ................................. > > SUBHASH'S ANALYSIS > > Dear Members, > > On the overall look at the data provided there appears to be some > mistake about the time zone. When the eastern most part of USA is > @ about 70 W, it is highly unlikely that someone would use 60 W > as their longitudinal meridian for standard time. According to me > the time zone should refer to (-)5.00 instead of (-) 4.00 > > The Siderial Time can be worke out without using this time zone > factor. As someone pointed out, actual sid.time works out to > 6.43.3and the ascendant for this time @ 77.36.57 W works out to > Virgo 15.17.13 > Sid. time workout is as given below: > Sid time @ 0.00 hrs GMT on 22-5-1951 15 55 11 > Add correction @ 2/3 sec for 77.36.57 0 0 52 > -------------- > Sid time @ 0.00 hrs @ Rochester 15 56 03 > Add time upto LMT of birth 14 44 33 > Add correction @ 10 Sec per Hr 0 2 27 > ------------- > 30 43 03 > Deduct 24 0 0 > Actual sid time @birth ------------- > 6 43 03 > > Period operating on 17-10-1977 was Ven-Ket-Sat-Sat The sub lord > of 8th - mercury- is strongest significator of 12th and deposited > in 8th( marak sthana for 7th) The strongest significators for 8th > house are sun, mar, and sat. Of these sun and mar are coinjoined > and posited in 8th which shows voilence. Further sun the > significator of 8th ( marak sthana for 7th ) represented by ketu > is also the strong significator of 2nd. Therefore it is crystal > clear that this gentleman(?) has murdered someone on 17-10-1977. > > Now we will see the transit of ven - the dasha lord, ket - bhukti > lord and sat - antara and sookshma lord on 17-10-1977, > Ven -transiting over natal sat, star of sun ( sign. of 8th and > 2nd) sub of ketu ( in 12th, and also the star lord of 8th house) > Sat - transiting in leo owned by sun and star of ketu > Ketu - transiting in star of mercury ( the sub of 8th )and sub of > venTherefore the transits of all the period lords also point out > to 8th and 2nd houses and thus support the reading of a murder. > So the alternative No. 1 > > subhash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 hi sandy ad k.p groupies i m mrs kanchan chetan digraskar, just i m joining this group. first say to u frankly i m not good in english, i m an indian astrologer. i have complited commerce degree after that i compelited diploma in taxation law,and then i have compleated "JYOTISH SHASHTRI" (learned astrologer) i stood first rank on that exam. then i hav compleated 3 yrs degree course in astrology. as well as i finished diploma in vastu shashtra which is knowing vastu visharad. as well as i m YOGA TEACHER. now i m learning k.p. now from last 2 yrs i m doing counsultancy of astrology and vastu. i feel happy to say i m newly married. my husband is in Australia.at Melbourne. he is permant reci. of australia. i launch the file for visa as a spouse.i have completed my medical test, but now i m waiting for visa, cos after 1 month of our marriage he went there for his job. now i m alone hear and missing him to much. my birth date is 29/05/1977 birth time 14:20 place aurangabad (maharashtra) India. 019/56 NORTH, 75/19 EAST. hey can u tell me when will i recived my visa? i m desperate for that. i launch the file 22 nov 2004 and my medical test was completed on 03 jan 2005. i will be in contact with u thanking u. kanchan.Sandy Crowther <sandycrowther wrote: Dear Ron, TW, and KP Groupies,Thanks TW for your kind words...Ron - I think, also, that the birth time is probably very close to accurate- or at the very least - within a 16 minute time frame of accuracy. Ihaven't had any time to seriously fudge around with it, but I would ventureto say that he was born between 2:55 and 3:16 PM. To be honest - I wouldn't have even attempted to analyze the chart had Iknown (prior to working on it) that the birth time was unconfirmed...but noapologies necessary. To me, the chart itself - upon a close inspection ofmany things including KP considerations of star (and sub lords) - showed apropensity (and an actual sadistic enjoyment) toward manipulative powerstruggles and violence involving women - so no harm done. It was a goodexercise. And after checking out the last SE chart for Oct 12, 1977 - thearrows are all pointing in the same direction - so I would say the birthtime is very close to the time you gave. All the Best, Sandy Crowther http://www.jupitersweb.com tw853 [tw853] Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:33 AM Subject: Re: KPBC9 - early terminationDear Sandy,Let me sincerely congratulate for your amazing accurate transit which helps me to choose the right one from sanyasin vis serial killer.Best regards,twP.S.'Hillside Strangler' files claim for wagesBianchi, serving a 118-year term, claims evidence withheldThursday, June 27, 2002THE ASSOCIATED PRESSBELLINGHAM -- Kenneth Bianchi, convicted in the "Hillside Strangler" serial murder case, has filed a claim against Whatcom County seeking hundreds of thousands of dollars for lost wages and emotional distress.Bianchi claims that police and prosecutors withheld key evidence, leading him to plead guilty to the murders of seven women in 1979.Two of the victims were students at Western Washington University, and the five others were women strangled and left on open hillsides in Los Angeles in late 1977 and early 1978. Bianchi is serving a term of more than 118 years in the Washington deaths at the state penitentiary in Walla Walla. He also was sentenced to five life terms in California.Bianchi sent his claim to Whatcom County Executive Pete Kremen earlier this month. A motion to withdraw his guilty plea based on the allegedly withheld evidence was rejected in March by Whatcom County Superior Court Judge Steven Mura. The judge ruled that Bianchi had produced no new evidence.Bianchi's claim seeks up to $100 per day for 23 years of lost wages, in addition to punitive damages and damages for emotional distress.Bianchi alleges that Bellingham police withheld proof that two Washington victims were seen alive by officers on the night of their deaths, after Bianchi had returned to his home.However, the police report cited by Bianchi does not give a time for the women's sighting. For that, Bianchi relies on a report filed by a friend of the victims.Bianchi also claims that a police officer took a hair from him and took it to an investigator at the cul-de-sac where the women's bodies were found in a car.Bianchi says that he developed a false impression of the strength of the prosecution's case because of the allegedly withheld evidence, and thus decided to plead guilty.Whatcom County Prosecutor Dave McEachran dismissed Bianchi's claim."It's absolutely ridiculous, as is everything else that he has sent to us and moved for in the past 23 years," McEachran said. "Kenneth Bianchi was just guilty as sin."McEachran said he would move for dismissal of any lawsuit that follows the claim. , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:> > I am terminating this Blind Chart early, as I have just found> out that the subject had an unconfirmed time of birth. > > I do try to stick with only charts where there appears to be a> reasonable chance that the time is correct or nearly so ie. where> charts are not on the hour, half hour or quarter hour. Data is> obtained mainly from credited sources where Birth data is> classified AA. I also do a quick prior check myself to see> whether I consider the data valid. This particular case slipped> through the net because it came from my files of many years ago,> where I used data from what I thought was a trusted source.> Today I would be more rigorous in my checking of new data.> This teaches me to recheck old data.> > The native of the chart was Kenneth A. Bianchi, the Hillside> Strangler, who along with his accomplice, cousin Angelo Buono.> murdered 10 young women. The first killing on the 17th October> 1977 was in a way accidental. Yolanda Washington the victim> was a bystander when her co worker sold a 'trick' list to Angelo> and Ken. They had decided to go in for pimping, and bought a> list of men who they thought wanted call girls to come to their> homes. But it wasn't correct. They couldn't find the girl who> sold them the list but they found Yolanda. She got into the> car and had sex with both of them, but was strangled on impulse> by Bianchi. Bianchi on his own murdered two college students at> Bellingham Washington on 11th January 1979. He was arrested the> next day. He was sentenced in Nov 1983 to life in prison, but> was granted the right to receive parole as he submitted evidence> against Buono. While in prison, he married on Oct 1989. > > I do suspect that the time is correct or nearly so, because> Sandy was spot on in her assessment - even down to the detail of> using his hands to murder (he strangled his victims) TW and> Subhash also got the correct answer. Also my own assessment> rated the chart as one of the most malefic I have ever seen> (based on the time given).> > My apologies to Members who took the time to attempt the Chart.> > Sandy's and TWs and Subhash's analysis' are appended.> > > Ron Gaunt> > > ............................................................................................................> SANDY,S ANALYSIS> > > Dear Ron and Group,> > This chart was bugging me so being a glutton for punishment :-)> - I picked it back up for another look. I just cannot easily> dismiss the dusthana/maraka/badhaka activations, the powerful> aspects of an adverse nature, the fact that Jupiter is Venus'> star, sub and sub sub lord, is badhaka and lord of the 8th -> along with a multitude of other things that Iam finding are not> at all of a monastic or spiritual nature. > > I believe this man was a serial murderer, and therefore my> selection is number 1: "Murdered his first victim". > > The natal and the transit charts both speak to me of violence> toward women - actually from Rasi to Navamsha to Transit charts.> In addition to what I said in my earlier email, Ve/Ur conjoined> in the 12th from Pluto and the maraka 2nd from the Su/Ma> (violent) conjunction, while square badhaka Jupiter and> Sa/Ne (end of life) from the 1st, leads me to believe that he> exhibited unprovoked maniacal and violent behavior toward women -> who experiencedsudden death (Ve/Ur) at his hands. > > > On October 17, 1977, transit Pluto conjoining T Rahu in the 1st> (powerful violence) conjoining natal Neptune (involving matters> of life) and both opposing the transit Ketu conjunction to natal> badhaka Jupiter in the maraka 7th, while transit Venus -> debilitated in Virgo - conjoining natal death lord Saturn from> the 12th and opposing natal Jupiter - these aspects are> just too powerful for me to think that this man has any kind of> spiritual nature. (Perhaps I'm losing my marbles though.) > > I think the chart is very descriptive of a murderer. Natal Venus> is disposed of by Mercury (lagna lord) in the house of Mars and> the star of Ketu, while the Ma/Su (aggression/violence)> conjunction is in the 12th from Venus (women). Death for many> women was perhaps sudden (Ve/Ur) and violent (natal> Pluto in the 2nd from Ve/Ur), and may have involved powerful> dominance andcontrol, by using force with his hands to kill (with> Me/Ve/PL/Ra alltransiting his first, a Mercury (hands) lagna> lord, and in light of the aspects already mentioned above.> > > > It's late, I'm tired, and I could be very wrong - but I just> can't see it any other way in light of the above, and more which> I have not written. Forgive me if this man is, in fact, a holy> man and not a mass murderer as I view him to be. :-( That's my 2> cents.> > > > All the Best,> > Sandy Crowther> > ....................................................................................................> > TWs ANALYSIS> > Dear Ron and All,> > 1. KPBC9 is agrreable with the KP general rule to become a > sanyasin i.e. the sublord of the cusp of the Ascendant should be> a > significator of 9 (tapasthana) or 10 (karmaathana) and also 12 > (mokshasthana) and also be connected with Saturn, the karaka for > Sanyasa.> > 2. The Moon in the sub of Saturn shows high degree of mental> concentration.> > 3. But the Sun does not occupy the sub of planets strongly > connected to houses 5, 9 & 12 for one to be deeply religious;> instead sub Venus indicates 7,10,4,7,8 & 3 houses.> > 4. Moreover, for spiritual success (siddhi) the sublord> Mercury of 11th cusp signifies 12,8,1,2 & 10 houses instead of> required 5th (initiation), 10th (sadhana) & 11th (siddhi).> > 5. In addition the timing of 17-10-1977 (Ve/Ke/Mo dasa & > transit) is not indicating 5th house (initiation for sanyasin).> > 6. Almost exact conjunction of Sun and Mars opposite to> Moon, especially in Scorpio, aspected by Saturn opposite stronger> Jupiter are indicators of a serial killer, and with combination> of Venus in Gemini, KPBC9 may not be a sanyasin i.e. No 2. > > 7. May not be No.4 since 10th is strong and also may not> No.3 due to lack of indicators in natal chart despite of some> indications at that timing. > > 8. The possible answer is No. 1.> > > Best regards,> > tw > > ....................................................................................................> > SUBHASH'S ANALYSIS> > Dear Members,> > On the overall look at the data provided there appears to be some> mistake about the time zone. When the eastern most part of USA is> @ about 70 W, it is highly unlikely that someone would use 60 W> as their longitudinal meridian for standard time. According to me> the time zone should refer to (-)5.00 instead of (-) 4.00> > The Siderial Time can be worke out without using this time zone > factor. As someone pointed out, actual sid.time works out to> 6.43.3and the ascendant for this time @ 77.36.57 W works out to> Virgo 15.17.13> Sid. time workout is as given below:> Sid time @ 0.00 hrs GMT on 22-5-1951 15 55 11> Add correction @ 2/3 sec for 77.36.57 0 0 52> --------------> Sid time @ 0.00 hrs @ Rochester 15 56 03> Add time upto LMT of birth 14 44 33> Add correction @ 10 Sec per Hr 0 2 27> -------------> 30 43 03> Deduct 24 0 0> Actual sid time @birth -------------> 6 43 03 > > Period operating on 17-10-1977 was Ven-Ket-Sat-Sat The sub lord> of 8th - mercury- is strongest significator of 12th and deposited> in 8th( marak sthana for 7th) The strongest significators for 8th> house are sun, mar, and sat. Of these sun and mar are coinjoined> and posited in 8th which shows voilence. Further sun the> significator of 8th ( marak sthana for 7th ) represented by ketu> is also the strong significator of 2nd. Therefore it is crystal> clear that this gentleman(?) has murdered someone on 17-10-1977.> > Now we will see the transit of ven - the dasha lord, ket - bhukti> lord and sat - antara and sookshma lord on 17-10-1977, > Ven -transiting over natal sat, star of sun ( sign. of 8th and> 2nd) sub of ketu ( in 12th, and also the star lord of 8th house) > Sat - transiting in leo owned by sun and star of ketu> Ketu - transiting in star of mercury ( the sub of 8th )and sub of> venTherefore the transits of all the period lords also point out> to 8th and 2nd houses and thus support the reading of a murder.> So the alternative No. 1> > subhash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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