Comparison of Softwares and 360 days year Dasa

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Dear All,

 

For academic purpose and information a comparison is as shown below.

 

S.N. Rajasekaran, Oct 15, 1963, Tu, 08:16:05 PM IST, 79E43, 12N56

 

To be comparable for all softwares, adjustments have been made for

same TOB 08:16:05 and KPA 23:15:16.

 

Ref: Msg # 2025 of S.N. Rajasekaran

 

I. SID TIME

 

1. Rajasekaran 21:39:36 Base

2. Raichur 21:38:37 00:00:59

3. Astrodienst 21:38:36 00:01:00

4. JHL 21:38:36 00:01:00

5. Jyotish Tools n/a

6. Astraura 21:38:36 00:01:00

7. Old One 21:38:37 00:00:59

 

Note: Difference around 1 minute

 

 

II. ASCENDENT

 

Asc Sgl/Stl/Sbl/Ss

1. Rajasekaran 38:38:50:35 Ve/Su/Ve/Ra Base

2. Raichur 38:20:20 Ve/Su/Ve/Mo 00:18:30:35

3. Astrodienst 38:22:27 Ve/Su/Ve/Mo 00:16:23:35

4. JHL 38:23:25:39 Ve/Su/Ve/Mo 00:15:24:56

5. Jyotish Tools 38:22:44 Ve/Su/Ve/Mo 00:16:06:35

6. Astraura 38:21:26:11 Ve/Su/Ve/Mo 00:15:04:35

7. Old One 38:23:46 Ve/Su/Ve/Mo 00:15:04:35

 

JHL = Jagannatha Hora Lite (Sanjay Rath Group), Jyotish Tool (SA

Group), Old One = DOS written only for inkjet printer

 

Note: Even though Asc is theoractically supposed to be the same by

any house system, Placidus, Koch, Equal or Campanus, a significant

difference of 15 to 18 min difference (around 4 min BOT difference) &

different sub with compared to other softwares.

 

Raichur Rajasekaran

CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl Sgl Stl Sbl SsL

ASC Ven Sun Ven Moo Ven Sun Ven Rah

2nd Mer Mar Sun Sat Mer Mar Sun Ven

3rd Moo Jup Mar Ven Moo Jup Rah Rah

4th Moo Mer Sat Sun Moo Mer Sat Mar

5th Mer Sun Rah Ven Mer Sun Rah Moo

6th Ven Mar Sun Rah Ven Mar Sun Mer

7th Mar Sat Ven Ven Mar Sat Ven Moo

8th Jup Ket Mar Mer Jup Ket Mar Moo

9th Sat Sun Rah Mar Sat Sun Jup Jup

10th Sat Mar Sat Sun Sat Mar Sat Mar

11th Jup Jup Mar Rah Jup Jup Mar Mer

12th Mar Ket Mar Jup Mar Ket Mar Ven

 

Note: Sbl of 3rd & 9th and all Ssl are different.

 

III. MOON POSITION

 

Moon Sgl/Stl/Sbl/Ss

1. Rajasekaran 156:56:46:41 Me/Su/Me/Sa Base

2. Raichur 156:55:30 Me/Su/Me/Sa 00:01:16:41

3. Astrodienst 156:56:13 Me/Su/Me/Sa 00:00:33:41

4. JHL 156:55:59:23 Me/Su/Me/Sa 00:00:47:18

5. Jyotish Tools 156:54:44 Me/Su/Me/Sa 00:02:02:41

6. Astraura 156:55:58:47 Me/Su/Me/Sa 00:00:47:54

7. Old One 156:56:17 Me/Su/Me/Sa 00:00:29:41

 

Note: 30sec to 2min difference

 

 

 

IV. 360 DAYS YEAR DASA

 

120 yr x 360 = 43200 days

120 yr x 365.25 = 43830 days

Difference 43830 - 43200 = 630 days for 120 yrs

Difference 630/120 = 5.25 days per year

 

Note: " Dasa-Bhukthi " dates in Rajasekaran are the same as in JHL &

Jyotish Tools printouts except JHL is 2 days & Jyotish Tools 3 days

ahead due to slight difference in Moon position (differnce for Moon

dasa balnce is 2.7 days per 1 min), i.e. nothing new or different.

 

01-04-2081 minus 22-12-1962 = 118y:03m:09d = 43200 days

 

Sun Dasa: (21-02-1965 minus 22-12-1962) + (01-04-2081 minus 03-07-

2077)=3y:1m:27d + 3y:8m:28d = 6y:10m:25d= 6 + (10+28/30)/12=

6.9027777x 365.25= 2521.2395 days (7x360=2520 days) (Note: JHL

2520.2395 days)

 

Moon: 31-12-74 minus 21-02-65= 9y:10m:10D =3601.7707 days (10x360=

3600 days) (Note: JHL/JT 3600.69 days)

 

Mars: 24-11-81 minus 31-12-74= 6y:10m:23d = 2519.2103 days (7x360=

2520 days) (Note: GHL/JT 2520.159 days)

 

Rahu: 22-08-99 minus 24-11-81= 17y:08m:28d = 6481.1581 days (18x360=

6480) (Note: JHL/JT same)

 

Jupter: 30-05-15 minus 22-08-99= 15y:09m:8d = 5760.804 (16x360= 5760)

(Note: GHL same)

 

Saturn: 19-02-2034 minus 30-05-2015= 18y:08m:19d = 6837.2769 days

(19x360= 6840 days) (Note: GHL/JT 6838.137 days)

 

Mercury: 22-11-2050 minus 19-02-2034= 16y:09m:03d =6120.9811 days

(17x360= 6120 days) (Note: GHL/JT same)

 

Ketu: 16-10-2057 minus 22-10-2050= 6y:10m:24d = 2520.1225 days

(7x360= 2520 days) (Note: GHL/JT same)

 

Venus: 03-07-2077 minus 16-10-2059= 19y:08m:17d =7200.4975 (20x360=

7200 days) (Note: GHL same)

 

 

Best regards,

 

tw

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

The variations brought out by tw are really

commendable and go on to prove the authenticity of the

various softwares being used today.

A querist believes that the he would be provided the

the right and precise answers to his query.

Astrologers following KP systems are doing a yeomen

service in helping out the needy. However, answers can

go pretty off the mark with such marked deviations.

That was precisely the reason why Mr Krishnamurthy

developed these ingenious methods. While his methods

of timing of events are methodical, results can go

awry with these marked differences. If jyotish has to

develop as a pure science for the beenfit of entire

mankind, calculations must also be accurate. In this

age of computation, programmers have to develop the

right programs. Rajsekharan's efforts are as

commendable as the critical analysis by the rest of

the group members.

Generally all published tables have utilised the

results of interpolation; this was taught to all of us

in the middle school, classes VI, VII and VII. While

doing these interpolations manually is easy, putting

them in a program is not as easy. The reason is the

large amount of data to be integrated - e.g. 27

Nakshatra divided as per Vimshottari dasha systems for

the nine planets, depending on the rulership of each

nakshatra.

While I not criticising any one, the programmer's

choice of the most suitable software for development,

whether it is VB, VC, C, C++ or any other, for that

matter, has to be judicious.

For programming, one can follow either the top down or

bottom up approach. Adopting any single approach would

lead to errors. We are aware of the total dasha

periods and its breakup in the fixed ratios over the

120 years period. A simple obvious solution then is to

conduct analysis top down; commencing from the

mahadasha period broken into antar, pratyantar,

sookshma and so on upto 5 or 6 levels as desired.

While breaking up the periods convert the mahadasha

and other dashas into number of days, not months and

years. This would eliminate the totalling errors and

the ambiguity of 28, 29, 30 or 31 days months. The

breakdown can go down to hours, minutes and seconds -

at 4th, 5th or 6th level it would be necessary to do

so. Once all periods have been broken up the lowest

desired level, adopt the bottom up approach totalling

every stage to the next higher up. I am sure this

process of dis-integration and synthesis would not

lead to any errors. Once all calculation is done in

days, it is not difficult to convert the same into

months and years and remove the entire anamoly of 360

and 365... days year.

Not to forget that the globally used Gregorian

calendar has to be incorporated in the program,

mentioning the number of days in every month and 29

days of February for leap years. Our ancient Hindu

calendars were simpler - months were based on lunar

movement and an ADHIMAS month was added every two and

a half years for synchronisation with the sun.

I do not wish to hurt any one's feelings or brush

aside the entire efforts of Rajsekharan in one go. I

am not aware which method he is following or what

methods have been followed by the others who have put

their softwares on the net for easy accessibility and

usage by all concerned.

My intention is merely to guide the programmers who

may be feeling stuck up at some stage.

With best wishes and luck to every one,

Amitabh

--- tw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

 

 

Dear All,

 

For academic purpose and information a comparison is

as shown below.

 

S.N. Rajasekaran, Oct 15, 1963, Tu, 08:16:05 PM IST,

79E43, 12N56

 

To be comparable for all softwares, adjustments have

been made for

same TOB 08:16:05 and KPA 23:15:16.

 

Ref: Msg # 2025 of S.N. Rajasekaran

 

I. SID TIME

 

1. Rajasekaran 21:39:36 Base

2. Raichur 21:38:37 00:00:59

3. Astrodienst 21:38:36 00:01:00

4. JHL 21:38:36 00:01:00

5. Jyotish Tools n/a

6. Astraura 21:38:36 00:01:00

7. Old One 21:38:37 00:00:59

 

Note: Difference around 1 minute

 

 

II. ASCENDENT

 

Asc Sgl/Stl/Sbl/Ss

1. Rajasekaran 38:38:50:35 Ve/Su/Ve/Ra Base

2. Raichur 38:20:20 Ve/Su/Ve/Mo

00:18:30:35

3. Astrodienst 38:22:27 Ve/Su/Ve/Mo

00:16:23:35

4. JHL 38:23:25:39 Ve/Su/Ve/Mo

00:15:24:56

5. Jyotish Tools 38:22:44 Ve/Su/Ve/Mo

00:16:06:35

6. Astraura 38:21:26:11 Ve/Su/Ve/Mo

00:15:04:35

7. Old One 38:23:46 Ve/Su/Ve/Mo

00:15:04:35

 

JHL = Jagannatha Hora Lite (Sanjay Rath Group),

Jyotish Tool (SA

Group), Old One = DOS written only for inkjet printer

 

Note: Even though Asc is theoractically supposed to be

the same by

any house system, Placidus, Koch, Equal or Campanus, a

significant

difference of 15 to 18 min difference (around 4 min

BOT difference) &

different sub with compared to other softwares.

 

Raichur Rajasekaran

CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl Sgl Stl Sbl SsL

ASC Ven Sun Ven Moo Ven Sun Ven Rah

2nd Mer Mar Sun Sat Mer Mar Sun Ven

3rd Moo Jup Mar Ven Moo Jup Rah Rah

4th Moo Mer Sat Sun Moo Mer Sat Mar

5th Mer Sun Rah Ven Mer Sun Rah Moo

6th Ven Mar Sun Rah Ven Mar Sun Mer

7th Mar Sat Ven Ven Mar Sat Ven Moo

8th Jup Ket Mar Mer Jup Ket Mar Moo

 

9th Sat Sun Rah Mar Sat Sun Jup Jup

 

10th Sat Mar Sat Sun Sat Mar Sat Mar

 

11th Jup Jup Mar Rah Jup Jup Mar Mer

 

12th Mar Ket Mar Jup Mar Ket Mar Ven

 

 

Note: Sbl of 3rd & 9th and all Ssl are different.

 

III. MOON POSITION

 

Moon Sgl/Stl/Sbl/Ss

1. Rajasekaran 156:56:46:41 Me/Su/Me/Sa Base

2. Raichur 156:55:30 Me/Su/Me/Sa

00:01:16:41

3. Astrodienst 156:56:13 Me/Su/Me/Sa

00:00:33:41

4. JHL 156:55:59:23 Me/Su/Me/Sa

00:00:47:18

5. Jyotish Tools 156:54:44 Me/Su/Me/Sa

00:02:02:41

6. Astraura 156:55:58:47 Me/Su/Me/Sa

00:00:47:54

7. Old One 156:56:17 Me/Su/Me/Sa

00:00:29:41

 

Note: 30sec to 2min difference

 

 

 

IV. 360 DAYS YEAR DASA

 

120 yr x 360 = 43200 days

120 yr x 365.25 = 43830 days

Difference 43830 - 43200 = 630 days for 120 yrs

Difference 630/120 = 5.25 days per year

 

Note: " Dasa-Bhukthi " dates in Rajasekaran are the same

as in JHL &

Jyotish Tools printouts except JHL is 2 days & Jyotish

Tools 3 days

ahead due to slight difference in Moon position

(differnce for Moon

dasa balnce is 2.7 days per 1 min), i.e. nothing new

or different.

 

01-04-2081 minus 22-12-1962 = 118y:03m:09d = 43200

days

 

Sun Dasa: (21-02-1965 minus 22-12-1962) +

(01-04-2081 minus 03-07-

2077)=3y:1m:27d + 3y:8m:28d = 6y:10m:25d= 6 +

(10+28/30)/12=

6.9027777x 365.25= 2521.2395 days (7x360=2520 days)

(Note: JHL

2520.2395 days)

 

Moon: 31-12-74 minus 21-02-65= 9y:10m:10D =3601.7707

days (10x360=

3600 days) (Note: JHL/JT 3600.69 days)

 

Mars: 24-11-81 minus 31-12-74= 6y:10m:23d = 2519.2103

days (7x360=

2520 days) (Note: GHL/JT 2520.159 days)

 

Rahu: 22-08-99 minus 24-11-81= 17y:08m:28d = 6481.1581

days (18x360=

6480) (Note: JHL/JT same)

 

Jupter: 30-05-15 minus 22-08-99= 15y:09m:8d = 5760.804

(16x360= 5760)

(Note: GHL same)

 

Saturn: 19-02-2034 minus 30-05-2015= 18y:08m:19d =

6837.2769 days

(19x360= 6840 days) (Note: GHL/JT 6838.137 days)

 

Mercury: 22-11-2050 minus 19-02-2034= 16y:09m:03d

=6120.9811 days

(17x360= 6120 days) (Note: GHL/JT same)

 

Ketu: 16-10-2057 minus 22-10-2050= 6y:10m:24d =

2520.1225 days

(7x360= 2520 days) (Note: GHL/JT same)

 

Venus: 03-07-2077 minus 16-10-2059= 19y:08m:17d

=7200.4975 (20x360=

7200 days) (Note: GHL same)

 

 

Best regards,

 

tw