Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Between the 27th and 29th June the 2000 the native was offered 3 jobs from 3 different companies with salary offers far above the natives then earnings. Both Sandy and Anant arrived at the correct dasa sequence of Rahu/Saturn/Jupiter/Saturn but unfortunately not quite the right dates. This mirrors my own efforts in trying to tie down exact dates using RPs. The difficulty I find is assessing which is the correct sub sub when all the RP planets are available. I actually did this exercise myself using Prasna - with interesting results. I am committed to other things the rest of today but I will write up my attempt ASP. Sandy's reasons for her attempt are given below. If any other participant would like to state his reasons it could be a good learning exercise. Ron Gaunt SANDY'S ASSESSMENT I can see why the client consulted the astrologer about his decision to test the career waters in the beginning of May - with Saturn transiting Aries in the star of Venus in Mercury sub, but to actually try to pick, within 3 days, the dates that he received the three job offers, is a bit more difficult (and probably best left to the KP experts). But I'm giving it an honest try to sort out for myself a progressive learning method to my KP madness :-), and in the hopes that I can learn more about KP from this exercise. (My answers are based on the natal chart -not Horary - because I, too, think the consultation date and time are important (in this case) for using RP's - and that date wasn't available) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Dear Ron and Group, Thanks for the chart. I wanted to try an experiment with this 4th Blind Chart and see if I could really narrow down some of the KP possibilities for choosing the correct 3 day period of time, and I think I may have begun that process - at least to some degree of satisfaction for myself – however many more examples must also be tested, when I have the time, before I can reach any conclusive evidence that satisfies me on a much grander scale. However, interestingly enough – prior to me posting my first choice dates of June 21st to June 23rd – I had ORIGINALLY chosen the dates of June 26th to June 29th – as my first choice – but encompassing a 4 day period of time. (This experiment was based on “following up” on the last blind chart - the KPBC3 - to see why I correctly chose the dates – but selected them as my 3rd choice rather than my 1st – which was also an experiment for me in testing KP.) Since this blind chart request was for a 3 day time frame this time – I opted to go with the initial dasha sequence of Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Sa instead – which encompassed the dates from June 21st to 23rd - and here is my reasoning for my “experiment” in doing that…and subsequently changing the dasha sequence I had originally selected. (I am now seriously thinking that the sub subs have everything to do with this – but the intellectual side of my brain keeps saying that it HAS to be more difficult that that – but maybe not??? Maybe the “KEYS” are really in the “sub subs” of the dasha – like using the 4th and 5th levels combined…) Could it be that simple??? J First, I should make it known that I prefer to use Shri Jyoti Star 5 for most of my KP calculations – with Parashara Light 6 and Solar Fire 5 as back-ups for more ease of research/aspect/RP info, and in addition to verifying relevant data. This is based on my preference of fully trusting over the years the SJS5 and SF5 calculations above most other software programs, and on the accuracy of the KP ayanamsa produced when calculating with Shri Jyoti Star and customizing the KP ayanamsa setting to reflect the epoch, value at epoch, and annual precession rate for any date of birth based on the Ayanamsa Table provided in the File section earlier, by TW. (For the record so as not to discredit another program that I hear is really wonderful - I would like to also state that I have been unable to work with Mr. Raichur’s software because I have not been able to successfully download Anant Raichur’s software demo from the Files section of the KP list. All I get is a bunch of ++++ and ----- for data, with no legible data or readable information. I believe Mr. Raichur’s program is DOS based and has a major conflict with another DOS based astrology program I have downloaded in my computer [which is Haydn’s Jyotish]. So I’m not exactly sure of what the conflict may be – but at any rate, I am unfortunately unable to use Mr. Raichur’s program for reference.) Now that I have that out of the way, let me explain further my “experiment” above, and why I DID initially chose a 4 day period of June 26 to June 29, but DIDN’T end up submitting those dates because of my “beginning experimentation” with certain sub subs. First, we know that Saturn is a strong significator for houses 10 and 11, while Mercury is a significator for the 2nd and 6th and Venus a significator for the 2nd. So what do we have? Saturn most definitely – but should we use the double Saturn subs because of Saturn’s significance to the 10th and 11th houses, or would we be smarter and wiser to consider all three significators: Saturn, Mercury, and Venus? So with respect to the above, we have a 5 level dasha sequence of: 1. Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Sa: (the beginning of double Saturn dasha subs) which accommodates the dates of 6/21/200 through 6/23/2000 (the dates I settled on due to beginning the Sa double Saturn subs as a starting point for my experimentation.) Then we have… 2. Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Me: dasha subs running from 6/25/2000 through 6/27/2000: Correct time frame/correct 5 level dasha sequence.. 3. Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Ke: dasha subs running on 6/28/2000:(Ketu is in sub of SA in SJS [sub of Ju according to PL6, but PL6 KP ayanamsa is not as reliable as SJS in my not so humble opinion] – but significant at any rate.) Correct time frame /correct 5 level dasha sequence.. 4. Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Ve: dasha subs running on 6/29/2000: Correct time frame /correct 5 level dasha sequence.. So 2, 3 and 4 are the CORRECT dates, and include all 3 significators: Saturn, Mercury, and Venus when using 5 level dasha sequence. So the bottom line – which I certainly must test out further because it is beginning to seriously pique my interest, is that perhaps the 5 level dashas – specifically the 1. Mahadasha, 2. Antardasha, 3. Pratyantardasha, 4. Sookshma-antardasha, and 5. Praana-antardasha is a major key to prediction and therefore just may have a major something to say about it all? I am new to studying KP, so perhaps research of this nature has already been done – or is in the process of being done??? It seems like a worthwhile research to me… At any rate – this is just my 2 cents, and I certainly must research this more elaborately myself on several dozen charts when I have the time – but these 5 level sequences appear to be forming a pattern that I have been noticing on a few charts… It’s late, I’m tired, and I’m rambling…Sorry… Anyone else have any comments??? All the Best, Sandy Crowther http://www.jupitersweb.com rongaunt [rongaunt] Thursday, December 16, 2004 7:16 PM KPBC4 - Answer. Between the 27th and 29th June the 2000 the native was offered 3 jobs from 3 different companies with salary offers far above the natives then earnings. Both Sandy and Anant arrived at the correct dasa sequence of Rahu/Saturn/Jupiter/Saturn but unfortunately not quite the right dates. This mirrors my own efforts in trying to tie down exact dates using RPs. The difficulty I find is assessing which is the correct sub sub when all the RP planets are available. I actually did this exercise myself using Prasna - with interesting results. I am committed to other things the rest of today but I will write up my attempt ASP. Sandy's reasons for her attempt are given below. If any other participant would like to state his reasons it could be a good learning exercise. Ron Gaunt SANDY'S ASSESSMENT I can see why the client consulted the astrologer about his decision to test the career waters in the beginning of May - with Saturn transiting Aries in the star of Venus in Mercury sub, but to actually try to pick, within 3 days, the dates that he received the three job offers, is a bit more difficult (and probably best left to the KP experts). But I'm giving it an honest try to sort out for myself a progressive learning method to my KP madness :-), and in the hopes that I can learn more about KP from this exercise. (My answers are based on the natal chart -not Horary - because I, too, think the consultation date and time are important (in this case) for using RP's - and that date wasn't available) · Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Dear Sandy, I have also recently come to the same tentative conclusion as yourself that the 5 level dasha is the way to go. This is because the 5th level is the one that ties the event to within a day or so, and has appeared so relevent in the few cases I have studied. What has piqued my interest is the relationship between the Solar Eclipse positions and the Sookshma antardasha, and the continuation to the transit positions and relevent Praana antardasha. I will give examples when I write up my analysis of KPBC4. Ron Gaunt On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 22:56:05 -0500, you wrote: >Dear Ron and Group, > > > >Thanks for the chart. I wanted to try an experiment with this 4th Blind >Chart and see if I could really narrow down some of the KP possibilities >for choosing the correct 3 day period of time, and I think I may have >begun that process - at least to some degree of satisfaction for myself >- however many more examples must also be tested, when I have the time, >before I can reach any conclusive evidence that satisfies me on a much >grander scale. However, interestingly enough - prior to me posting my >first choice dates of June 21st to June 23rd - I had ORIGINALLY chosen >the dates of June 26th to June 29th - as my first choice - but >encompassing a 4 day period of time. (This experiment was based on > " following up " on the last blind chart - the KPBC3 - to see why I >correctly chose the dates - but selected them as my 3rd choice rather >than my 1st - which was also an experiment for me in testing KP.) Since >this blind chart request was for a 3 day time frame this time - I opted >to go with the initial dasha sequence of Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Sa instead - which >encompassed the dates from June 21st to 23rd - and here is my reasoning >for my " experiment " in doing that.and subsequently changing the dasha >sequence I had originally selected. (I am now seriously thinking that >the sub subs have everything to do with this - but the intellectual side >of my brain keeps saying that it HAS to be more difficult that that - >but maybe not??? Maybe the " KEYS " are really in the " sub subs " of the >dasha - like using the 4th and 5th levels combined.) Could it be that >simple??? :-) > > > >First, I should make it known that I prefer to use Shri Jyoti Star 5 for >most of my KP calculations - with Parashara Light 6 and Solar Fire 5 as >back-ups for more ease of research/aspect/RP info, and in addition to >verifying relevant data. This is based on my preference of fully >trusting over the years the SJS5 and SF5 calculations above most other >software programs, and on the accuracy of the KP ayanamsa produced when >calculating with Shri Jyoti Star and customizing the KP ayanamsa setting >to reflect the epoch, value at epoch, and annual precession rate for any >date of birth based on the Ayanamsa Table provided in the File section >earlier, by TW. (For the record so as not to discredit another program >that I hear is really wonderful - I would like to also state that I have >been unable to work with Mr. Raichur's software because I have not been >able to successfully download Anant Raichur's software demo from the >Files section of the KP list. All I get is a bunch of ++++ and ----- for >data, with no legible data or readable information. I believe Mr. >Raichur's program is DOS based and has a major conflict with another DOS >based astrology program I have downloaded in my computer [which is >Haydn's Jyotish]. So I'm not exactly sure of what the conflict may be - >but at any rate, I am unfortunately unable to use Mr. Raichur's program >for reference.) > > > >Now that I have that out of the way, let me explain further my > " experiment " above, and why I DID initially chose a 4 day period of June >26 to June 29, but DIDN'T end up submitting those dates because of my > " beginning experimentation " with certain sub subs. > > > >First, we know that Saturn is a strong significator for houses 10 and >11, while Mercury is a significator for the 2nd and 6th and Venus a >significator for the 2nd. So what do we have? Saturn most definitely - >but should we use the double Saturn subs because of Saturn's >significance to the 10th and 11th houses, or would we be smarter and >wiser to consider all three significators: Saturn, Mercury, and Venus? > > > >So with respect to the above, we have a 5 level dasha sequence of: > > > >1. Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Sa: (the beginning of double Saturn dasha subs) which >accommodates the dates of 6/21/200 through 6/23/2000 (the dates I >settled on due to beginning the Sa double Saturn subs as a starting >point for my experimentation.) Then we have. > > > >2. Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Me: dasha subs running from 6/25/2000 through 6/27/2000: >Correct time frame/correct 5 level dasha sequence.. > >3. Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Ke: dasha subs running on 6/28/2000:(Ketu is in sub of SA >in SJS [sub of Ju according to PL6, but PL6 KP ayanamsa is not as >reliable as SJS in my not so humble opinion] - but significant at any >rate.) Correct time frame /correct 5 level dasha sequence.. > >4. Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Ve: dasha subs running on 6/29/2000: Correct time frame >/correct 5 level dasha sequence.. > > > >So 2, 3 and 4 are the CORRECT dates, and include all 3 significators: >Saturn, Mercury, and Venus when using 5 level dasha sequence. > > > >So the bottom line - which I certainly must test out further because it >is beginning to seriously pique my interest, is that perhaps the 5 level >dashas - specifically the 1. Mahadasha, 2. Antardasha, 3. >Pratyantardasha, 4. Sookshma-antardasha, and 5. Praana-antardasha is a >major key to prediction and therefore just may have a major something to >say about it all? I am new to studying KP, so perhaps research of this >nature has already been done - or is in the process of being done??? It >seems like a worthwhile research to me. At any rate - this is just my 2 >cents, and I certainly must research this more elaborately myself on >several dozen charts when I have the time - but these 5 level sequences >appear to be forming a pattern that I have been noticing on a few >charts. > > > >It's late, I'm tired, and I'm rambling.Sorry. > > > >Anyone else have any comments??? > > > > All the Best, > > Sandy Crowther > > <http://www.jupitersweb.com> http://www.jupitersweb.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >rongaunt [rongaunt] >Thursday, December 16, 2004 7:16 PM > > KPBC4 - Answer. > > > > >Between the 27th and 29th June the 2000 the native was offered >3 jobs from 3 different companies with salary offers far above >the natives then earnings. > >Both Sandy and Anant arrived at the correct dasa sequence >of Rahu/Saturn/Jupiter/Saturn but unfortunately not quite the >right dates. > >This mirrors my own efforts in trying to tie down >exact dates using RPs. The difficulty I find is assessing >which is the correct sub sub when all the RP planets are >available. I actually did this exercise myself using Prasna >- with interesting results. I am committed to other things >the rest of today but I will write up my attempt ASP. > >Sandy's reasons for her attempt are given below. If any other >participant would like to state his reasons it could be a good >learning exercise. > > >Ron Gaunt > > >SANDY'S ASSESSMENT > >I can see why the client consulted the astrologer about his >decision to test the career waters in the beginning of May - with >Saturn transiting Aries in the star of Venus in Mercury sub, but >to actually try to pick, within 3 days, the dates that he >received the three job offers, is a bit more difficult (and >probably best left to the KP experts). But I'm giving it an >honest try to sort out for myself a progressive learning >method to my KP madness :-), and in the hopes that I can learn >more about KP from this exercise. (My answers are based on the >natal chart -not Horary - because I, too, think the consultation >date and time are important (in this case) for using RP's - and >that date wasn't available) > > > >* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Dear Sandy, Ron and Group, I have been a silent observer to the discussion - an excellent analysis. I am a learner in KP myself. Over 20 years ago I came across the KP tables and have been using them ever since. I prefer to use these rather than rely on any software, though it is much more time consuming. But chances of error are much less, if you are confident of your maths and calculations. My experiences have been mixed, RPs have often provided accurate results. Idea of 5 level dasha system is a welcome idea. Frankly, I had thought of it but never put it to practice - longer mahadasha periods obviously necessiate this; maybe a step more if one wants to go to the time in hrs, mins etc. with corresponding calculations. Another observation which I wish to bring to the notice of the group is that good periods (mahadashas, antar and pratyantar), though worthy of giving results are wasted if the gochar is not favourable. Compare it with a subject doing an excellent work and not getting the rewards for it, if there is none to judge the performance. Alternatively, if a ball is thrown and there is no one to catch, the ball falls on the ground into dust. All forces have to work concurrently for the benefits to be reaped. This is the beauty of KP analysis. (It's possible this may have been discussed earlier in this forum.) Keep it up, Amitabh --- Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote: > Dear Ron and Group, > Thanks for the chart. I wanted to try an experiment > with this 4th Blind > Chart and see if I could really narrow down some of > the KP possibilities > for choosing the correct 3 day period of time, and I > think I may have > begun that process - at least to some degree of > satisfaction for myself > - however many more examples must also be tested, > when I have the time, > before I can reach any conclusive evidence that > satisfies me on a much > grander scale. However, interestingly enough - prior > to me posting my > first choice dates of June 21st to June 23rd - I had > ORIGINALLY chosen > the dates of June 26th to June 29th - as my first > choice - but > encompassing a 4 day period of time. (This > experiment was based on > " following up " on the last blind chart - the KPBC3 - > to see why I > correctly chose the dates - but selected them as my > 3rd choice rather > than my 1st - which was also an experiment for me in > testing KP.) Since > this blind chart request was for a 3 day time frame > this time - I opted > to go with the initial dasha sequence of > Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Sa instead - which > encompassed the dates from June 21st to 23rd - and > here is my reasoning > for my " experiment " in doing that.and subsequently > changing the dasha > sequence I had originally selected. (I am now > seriously thinking that > the sub subs have everything to do with this - but > the intellectual side > of my brain keeps saying that it HAS to be more > difficult that that - > but maybe not??? Maybe the " KEYS " are really in the > " sub subs " of the > dasha - like using the 4th and 5th levels combined.) > Could it be that > simple??? :-) > > > > First, I should make it known that I prefer to use > Shri Jyoti Star 5 for > most of my KP calculations - with Parashara Light 6 > and Solar Fire 5 as > back-ups for more ease of research/aspect/RP info, > and in addition to > verifying relevant data. This is based on my > preference of fully > trusting over the years the SJS5 and SF5 > calculations above most other > software programs, and on the accuracy of the KP > ayanamsa produced when > calculating with Shri Jyoti Star and customizing the > KP ayanamsa setting > to reflect the epoch, value at epoch, and annual > precession rate for any > date of birth based on the Ayanamsa Table provided > in the File section > earlier, by TW. (For the record so as not to > discredit another program > that I hear is really wonderful - I would like to > also state that I have > been unable to work with Mr. Raichur's software > because I have not been > able to successfully download Anant Raichur's > software demo from the > Files section of the KP list. All I get is a bunch > of ++++ and ----- for > data, with no legible data or readable information. > I believe Mr. > Raichur's program is DOS based and has a major > conflict with another DOS > based astrology program I have downloaded in my > computer [which is > Haydn's Jyotish]. So I'm not exactly sure of what > the conflict may be - > but at any rate, I am unfortunately unable to use > Mr. Raichur's program > for reference.) > > > > Now that I have that out of the way, let me explain > further my > " experiment " above, and why I DID initially chose a > 4 day period of June > 26 to June 29, but DIDN'T end up submitting those > dates because of my > " beginning experimentation " with certain sub subs. > > > > First, we know that Saturn is a strong significator > for houses 10 and > 11, while Mercury is a significator for the 2nd and > 6th and Venus a > significator for the 2nd. So what do we have? Saturn > most definitely - > but should we use the double Saturn subs because of > Saturn's > significance to the 10th and 11th houses, or would > we be smarter and > wiser to consider all three significators: Saturn, > Mercury, and Venus? > > > > So with respect to the above, we have a 5 level > dasha sequence of: > > > > 1. Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Sa: (the beginning of double Saturn > dasha subs) which > accommodates the dates of 6/21/200 through 6/23/2000 > (the dates I > settled on due to beginning the Sa double Saturn > subs as a starting > point for my experimentation.) Then we have. > > > > 2. Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Me: dasha subs running from 6/25/2000 > through 6/27/2000: > Correct time frame/correct 5 level dasha sequence.. > > 3. Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Ke: dasha subs running on > 6/28/2000:(Ketu is in sub of SA > in SJS [sub of Ju according to PL6, but PL6 KP > ayanamsa is not as > reliable as SJS in my not so humble opinion] - but > significant at any > rate.) Correct time frame /correct 5 level dasha > sequence.. > > 4. Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Ve: dasha subs running on 6/29/2000: > Correct time frame > /correct 5 level dasha sequence.. > > > > So 2, 3 and 4 are the CORRECT dates, and include all > 3 significators: > Saturn, Mercury, and Venus when using 5 level dasha > sequence. > > > > So the bottom line - which I certainly must test out > further because it > is beginning to seriously pique my interest, is that > perhaps the 5 level > dashas - specifically the 1. Mahadasha, 2. > Antardasha, 3. > Pratyantardasha, 4. Sookshma-antardasha, and 5. > Praana-antardasha is a > major key to prediction and therefore just may have > a major something to > say about it all? I am new to studying KP, so > perhaps research of this > nature has already been done - or is in the process > of being done??? It > seems like a worthwhile research to me. At any rate > - this is just my 2 > cents, and I certainly must research this more > elaborately myself on > several dozen charts when I have the time - but > these 5 level sequences > appear to be forming a pattern that I have been > noticing on a few > charts. > > > > It's late, I'm tired, and I'm rambling.Sorry. > > > > Anyone else have any comments??? > > > > All the Best, > > Sandy Crowther > > <http://www.jupitersweb.com> > http://www.jupitersweb.com > > === message truncated === _________ ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Dear Amitabh Amitabh, Sandy, Ron and Group, I agree with Amitabh that idea of 5 level dasha system is a welcome idea with the development of softwares. Choice of dasa lords and their sequence may be a very challanging task in future prediction and much easier for a post moterm study. For example, in the case of KPBC4, signification of houses is much more important than the strength of planets as shown by the dominant role of weak Saturn. In going to the particular date and time, the system of sublords is supposed to produce accurate predicting results with trnsiting planets. Best regards, tw , Amitabh Amitabh <amitabh20a> wrote: > Dear Sandy, Ron and Group, > I have been a silent observer to the discussion - an > excellent analysis. I am a learner in KP myself. Over > 20 years ago I came across the KP tables and have been > using them ever since. I prefer to use these rather > than rely on any software, though it is much more time > consuming. But chances of error are much less, if you > are confident of your maths and calculations. My > experiences have been mixed, RPs have often provided > accurate results. Idea of 5 level dasha system is a > welcome idea. Frankly, I had thought of it but never > put it to practice - longer mahadasha periods > obviously necessiate this; maybe a step more if one > wants to go to the time in hrs, mins etc. with > corresponding calculations. > Another observation which I wish to bring to the > notice of the group is that good periods (mahadashas, > antar and pratyantar), though worthy of giving results > are wasted if the gochar is not favourable. Compare it > with a subject doing an excellent work and not getting > the rewards for it, if there is none to judge the > performance. Alternatively, if a ball is thrown and > there is no one to catch, the ball falls on the ground > into dust. All forces have to work concurrently for > the benefits to be reaped. This is the beauty of KP > analysis. (It's possible this may have been discussed > earlier in this forum.) > Keep it up, > Amitabh > > --- Sandy Crowther <sandy@t...> wrote: > > Dear Ron and Group, > > Thanks for the chart. I wanted to try an experiment > > with this 4th Blind > > Chart and see if I could really narrow down some of > > the KP possibilities > > for choosing the correct 3 day period of time, and I > > think I may have > > begun that process - at least to some degree of > > satisfaction for myself > > - however many more examples must also be tested, > > when I have the time, > > before I can reach any conclusive evidence that > > satisfies me on a much > > grander scale. However, interestingly enough - prior > > to me posting my > > first choice dates of June 21st to June 23rd - I had > > ORIGINALLY chosen > > the dates of June 26th to June 29th - as my first > > choice - but > > encompassing a 4 day period of time. (This > > experiment was based on > > " following up " on the last blind chart - the KPBC3 - > > to see why I > > correctly chose the dates - but selected them as my > > 3rd choice rather > > than my 1st - which was also an experiment for me in > > testing KP.) Since > > this blind chart request was for a 3 day time frame > > this time - I opted > > to go with the initial dasha sequence of > > Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Sa instead - which > > encompassed the dates from June 21st to 23rd - and > > here is my reasoning > > for my " experiment " in doing that.and subsequently > > changing the dasha > > sequence I had originally selected. (I am now > > seriously thinking that > > the sub subs have everything to do with this - but > > the intellectual side > > of my brain keeps saying that it HAS to be more > > difficult that that - > > but maybe not??? Maybe the " KEYS " are really in the > > " sub subs " of the > > dasha - like using the 4th and 5th levels combined.) > > Could it be that > > simple??? :-) > > > > > > > > First, I should make it known that I prefer to use > > Shri Jyoti Star 5 for > > most of my KP calculations - with Parashara Light 6 > > and Solar Fire 5 as > > back-ups for more ease of research/aspect/RP info, > > and in addition to > > verifying relevant data. This is based on my > > preference of fully > > trusting over the years the SJS5 and SF5 > > calculations above most other > > software programs, and on the accuracy of the KP > > ayanamsa produced when > > calculating with Shri Jyoti Star and customizing the > > KP ayanamsa setting > > to reflect the epoch, value at epoch, and annual > > precession rate for any > > date of birth based on the Ayanamsa Table provided > > in the File section > > earlier, by TW. (For the record so as not to > > discredit another program > > that I hear is really wonderful - I would like to > > also state that I have > > been unable to work with Mr. Raichur's software > > because I have not been > > able to successfully download Anant Raichur's > > software demo from the > > Files section of the KP list. All I get is a bunch > > of ++++ and ----- for > > data, with no legible data or readable information. > > I believe Mr. > > Raichur's program is DOS based and has a major > > conflict with another DOS > > based astrology program I have downloaded in my > > computer [which is > > Haydn's Jyotish]. So I'm not exactly sure of what > > the conflict may be - > > but at any rate, I am unfortunately unable to use > > Mr. Raichur's program > > for reference.) > > > > > > > > Now that I have that out of the way, let me explain > > further my > > " experiment " above, and why I DID initially chose a > > 4 day period of June > > 26 to June 29, but DIDN'T end up submitting those > > dates because of my > > " beginning experimentation " with certain sub subs. > > > > > > > > First, we know that Saturn is a strong significator > > for houses 10 and > > 11, while Mercury is a significator for the 2nd and > > 6th and Venus a > > significator for the 2nd. So what do we have? Saturn > > most definitely - > > but should we use the double Saturn subs because of > > Saturn's > > significance to the 10th and 11th houses, or would > > we be smarter and > > wiser to consider all three significators: Saturn, > > Mercury, and Venus? > > > > > > > > So with respect to the above, we have a 5 level > > dasha sequence of: > > > > > > > > 1. Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Sa: (the beginning of double Saturn > > dasha subs) which > > accommodates the dates of 6/21/200 through 6/23/2000 > > (the dates I > > settled on due to beginning the Sa double Saturn > > subs as a starting > > point for my experimentation.) Then we have. > > > > > > > > 2. Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Me: dasha subs running from 6/25/2000 > > through 6/27/2000: > > Correct time frame/correct 5 level dasha sequence.. > > > > 3. Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Ke: dasha subs running on > > 6/28/2000:(Ketu is in sub of SA > > in SJS [sub of Ju according to PL6, but PL6 KP > > ayanamsa is not as > > reliable as SJS in my not so humble opinion] - but > > significant at any > > rate.) Correct time frame /correct 5 level dasha > > sequence.. > > > > 4. Ra/Sa/Ju/Sa/Ve: dasha subs running on 6/29/2000: > > Correct time frame > > /correct 5 level dasha sequence.. > > > > > > > > So 2, 3 and 4 are the CORRECT dates, and include all > > 3 significators: > > Saturn, Mercury, and Venus when using 5 level dasha > > sequence. > > > > > > > > So the bottom line - which I certainly must test out > > further because it > > is beginning to seriously pique my interest, is that > > perhaps the 5 level > > dashas - specifically the 1. Mahadasha, 2. > > Antardasha, 3. > > Pratyantardasha, 4. Sookshma-antardasha, and 5. > > Praana-antardasha is a > > major key to prediction and therefore just may have > > a major something to > > say about it all? I am new to studying KP, so > > perhaps research of this > > nature has already been done - or is in the process > > of being done??? It > > seems like a worthwhile research to me. At any rate > > - this is just my 2 > > cents, and I certainly must research this more > > elaborately myself on > > several dozen charts when I have the time - but > > these 5 level sequences > > appear to be forming a pattern that I have been > > noticing on a few > > charts. > > > > > > > > It's late, I'm tired, and I'm rambling.Sorry. > > > > > > > > Anyone else have any comments??? > > > > > > > > All the Best, > > > > Sandy Crowther > > > > <http://www.jupitersweb.com> > > http://www.jupitersweb.com > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > _________ > ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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