Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 I am just starting to try my hand at micro rectification using KP, and I would appreciate learned members help and thoughts on my first case. I decided to check the chart of Shirley Temple Black because I am fairly certain that the birth certificate and documentation is approximately correct. My previous non KP attempts at rectification suggested a time slightly later than quoted. Details for Shirley are: DOB 23 April 1928 9:00 pm PST +8:00 Santa Monica, California 34N01'10 " 118W29'25 " My prasna was 11th December 2004 Brisbane, Australia 27S28 153E02 TZ -10:00. Time was 7:12:34pm Here I found the Day Lord to be Saturn, The Asc Rasi Lord Mercury, the Asc Star Lord Mars, the Moon Rasi Lord Mars, and the Moon Star Lord Saturn. Also Rahu is a strong R.P. as it is in the rasi of another R.P. - Mars. Here we see Mars, Saturn and Rahu as all being very strong. In Shirley's natal chart with a 9:00 pm birth the Asc is 12 Scorpio 29'29 " . Therefore Scorpio rasi is confirmed by strong RP Mars. Mars rasi, Saturn star and Mars sub covers Scorpio 12-6-40 to 12-53-20. and this confims Shirley was born within this configuration. The following configurations apply: 8.58 pm Ma/Sa/Mo/Su 9.00 pm Ma/Sa/Ma/Sa 9:02 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Ra 9:04 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Ju 9:07 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Me We can eliminate 8:58 pm as Moon is not a R.P. Likewise 9:04 pm because sub sub Jupiter is also not a R.P. This leaves 9:00 - 9:02 pm and 9:07 pm because Me is a R.P. Now it gets tricky how do we decide which is the correct sub? Presumably we look for strength. Here Mars, Saturn and Rahu are all very strong so I would eliminate Me at 9:07pm. This leaves the options of Ma/Sa/Ma/Sa OR Ma/Sa/Ra/Ra. Rahu appears very strong, but Saturn aspects Rahu in the Prasna and appears to be calling the shots. I would appreciate members comments on which of these two would be the relevant time, and why. Do we need to go even further and use sub-sub-subs? Ron Gaunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Dear Ron, RP Moon at you query is: TIME I.S.T.Hrs.Min,SEC ? 14,42,34 (Aus. time -4.30 = IST) DAY LORD IS SAT. ASC= 87 57 30 MERC JUP VEN JUP MOON/CHANDRA 226 17 18 MARS SAT JUP MOONRAHU 5 34 45 MARS KETU RAHU RAHUKETU 185 34 45 VEN MARS MOON MOON RP Moon indicate Birth Asc. RP Moon is: MARS SAT JUP MOON and birth asc For 8.58 pm Ma/Sa/Mo/Su now you can found most of time that RP Moon = Birth Asc.as it is. MAR.SAT,MOON are in both rp and birth Asc. now if we adjest as: MAR,SAT,MOON,JUP it was @ Scorpio 11-19-27 to 11-28-20. you have to go back for some seconds and you have found Asc. as MAR,SAT,MOON,JUP . regards kanak bosmia >rongaunt <rongaunt > > > Micro Rectification >Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:28:32 +1000 > >I am just starting to try my hand at micro rectification using >KP, and I would appreciate learned members help and thoughts on >my first case. > >I decided to check the chart of Shirley Temple Black because I am >fairly certain that the birth certificate and documentation is >approximately correct. My previous non KP attempts at >rectification suggested a time slightly later than quoted. > >Details for Shirley are: > >DOB 23 April 1928 >9:00 pm PST +8:00 >Santa Monica, California >34N01'10" 118W29'25" > >My prasna was 11th December 2004 Brisbane, Australia 27S28 >153E02 TZ -10:00. Time was 7:12:34pm > >Here I found the Day Lord to be Saturn, The Asc Rasi Lord >Mercury, the Asc Star Lord Mars, the Moon Rasi Lord Mars, >and the Moon Star Lord Saturn. Also Rahu is a strong R.P. as it >is in the rasi of another R.P. - Mars. > >Here we see Mars, Saturn and Rahu as all being very strong. > >In Shirley's natal chart with a 9:00 pm birth the Asc is >12 Scorpio 29'29". Therefore Scorpio rasi is confirmed by >strong RP Mars. > >Mars rasi, Saturn star and Mars sub covers Scorpio 12-6-40 to >12-53-20. and this confims Shirley was born within this >configuration. > > >The following configurations apply: > >8.58 pm Ma/Sa/Mo/Su > >9.00 pm Ma/Sa/Ma/Sa > >9:02 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Ra > >9:04 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Ju > >9:07 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Me > >We can eliminate 8:58 pm as Moon is not a R.P. Likewise 9:04 pm >because sub sub Jupiter is also not a R.P. > >This leaves 9:00 - 9:02 pm and 9:07 pm because Me is a R.P. > >Now it gets tricky how do we decide which is the correct sub? >Presumably we look for strength. Here Mars, Saturn and Rahu >are all very strong so I would eliminate Me at 9:07pm. > >This leaves the options of Ma/Sa/Ma/Sa OR Ma/Sa/Ra/Ra. >Rahu appears very strong, but Saturn aspects Rahu in the Prasna >and appears to be calling the shots. > >I would appreciate members comments on which of these two would >be the relevant time, and why. Do we need to go even further >and use sub-sub-subs? > > >Ron Gaunt > > MSN Premium helps protect against viruses, hackers, junk e-mail pop-ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Dear Kanak, Thanks for your explanation. Yours is a different method to the one I was following from a book. One thing I am puzzled about is that you show the query Asc as 87 57 30 ie 27 Gemini 57 30. My software gives me 4 Gemini 56:42 with Solar Fire set to Geocentric Lagna and 4 Gemini 49:36 with Parashara Light which I suspect is Geographic Lagna. Are you certain that you have computed for Brisbane? Ron Gaunt On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:01:07 -0800, you wrote: Dear Ron, RP Moon at you query is: TIME I.S.T.Hrs.Min,SEC ? 14,42,34 (Aus. time -4.30 = IST) DAY LORD IS SAT. ASC= 87 57 30 MERC JUP VEN JUP MOON/CHANDRA 226 17 18 MARS SAT JUP MOON RAHU 5 34 45 MARS KETU RAHU RAHU KETU 185 34 45 VEN MARS MOON MOON RP Moon indicate Birth Asc. RP Moon is: MARS SAT JUP MOON and birth asc For 8.58 pm Ma/Sa/Mo/Su now you can found most of time that RP Moon = Birth Asc.as it is. MAR.SAT,MOON are in both rp and birth Asc. now if we adjest as: MAR,SAT,MOON,JUP it was @ Scorpio 11-19-27 to 11-28-20. you have to go back for some seconds and you have found Asc. as MAR,SAT,MOON,JUP . regards kanak bosmia >rongaunt <rongaunt > > > Micro Rectification >Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:28:32 +1000 > >I am just starting to try my hand at micro rectification using >KP, and I would appreciate learned members help and thoughts on >my first case. > >I decided to check the chart of Shirley Temple Black because I am >fairly certain that the birth certificate and documentation is >approximately correct. My previous non KP attempts at >rectification suggested a time slightly later than quoted. > >Details for Shirley are: > >DOB 23 April 1928 >9:00 pm PST +8:00 >Santa Monica, California >34N01'10 " 118W29'25 " > >My prasna was 11th December 2004 Brisbane, Australia 27S28 >153E02 TZ -10:00. Time was 7:12:34pm > >Here I found the Day Lord to be Saturn, The Asc Rasi Lord >Mercury, the Asc Star Lord Mars, the Moon Rasi Lord Mars, >and the Moon Star Lord Saturn. Also Rahu is a strong R.P. as it >is in the rasi of another R.P. - Mars. > >Here we see Mars, Saturn and Rahu as all being very strong. > >In Shirley's natal chart with a 9:00 pm birth the Asc is >12 Scorpio 29'29 " . Therefore Scorpio rasi is confirmed by >strong RP Mars. > >Mars rasi, Saturn star and Mars sub covers Scorpio 12-6-40 to >12-53-20. and this confims Shirley was born within this >configuration. > > >The following configurations apply: > >8.58 pm Ma/Sa/Mo/Su > >9.00 pm Ma/Sa/Ma/Sa > >9:02 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Ra > >9:04 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Ju > >9:07 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Me > >We can eliminate 8:58 pm as Moon is not a R.P. Likewise 9:04 pm >because sub sub Jupiter is also not a R.P. > >This leaves 9:00 - 9:02 pm and 9:07 pm because Me is a R.P. > >Now it gets tricky how do we decide which is the correct sub? >Presumably we look for strength. Here Mars, Saturn and Rahu >are all very strong so I would eliminate Me at 9:07pm. > >This leaves the options of Ma/Sa/Ma/Sa OR Ma/Sa/Ra/Ra. >Rahu appears very strong, but Saturn aspects Rahu in the Prasna >and appears to be calling the shots. > >I would appreciate members comments on which of these two would >be the relevant time, and why. Do we need to go even further >and use sub-sub-subs? > > >Ron Gaunt > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Dear Ron, Name of Place,1ST 3/4 LETTERS ? BRISBANE 321BRISBANE QUEENSLAND AUSTRALIA 27-29N 153-08E +10.00 -04.30IS This the Correct Place.. Y/N ? some deferace in Lon. let. i hve check with THE INTERNATIONAL ATLAS ( ACS Publications USA) it was 27 S 28 153 E 02 somthig wrong in my software regards kanak bosmia >rongaunt <rongaunt > > >Re: Micro Rectification >Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:04:18 +1000 > > >Dear Kanak, > >Thanks for your explanation. Yours is a different method to the >one I was following from a book. > >One thing I am puzzled about is that you show the query Asc as >87 57 30 ie 27 Gemini 57 30. My software gives me >4 Gemini 56:42 with Solar Fire set to Geocentric Lagna and >4 Gemini 49:36 with Parashara Light which I suspect is Geographic >Lagna. Are you certain that you have computed for Brisbane? > > >Ron Gaunt > > > > > >On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:01:07 -0800, you wrote: > >Dear Ron, > >RP Moon at you query is: > > TIME I.S.T.Hrs.Min,SEC ? 14,42,34 (Aus. time -4.30 = IST) > >DAY LORD IS SAT. > >ASC= 87 57 30 MERC JUP VEN JUP > >MOON/CHANDRA 226 17 18 MARS SAT JUP MOON >RAHU 5 34 45 MARS KETU RAHU RAHU >KETU 185 34 45 VEN MARS MOON MOON > > >RP Moon indicate Birth Asc. > >RP Moon is: MARS SAT JUP MOON > and birth asc For 8.58 pm Ma/Sa/Mo/Su > >now you can found most of time that RP Moon = Birth Asc.as it >is. > >MAR.SAT,MOON are in both rp and birth Asc. now if we adjest as: >MAR,SAT,MOON,JUP it was @ >Scorpio 11-19-27 to 11-28-20. you have to go back for some >seconds and you have found Asc. as MAR,SAT,MOON,JUP . > > >regards > >kanak bosmia > > >rongaunt <rongaunt > > > > > > Micro Rectification > >Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:28:32 +1000 > > > >I am just starting to try my hand at micro rectification using > >KP, and I would appreciate learned members help and thoughts on > >my first case. > > > >I decided to check the chart of Shirley Temple Black because I am > >fairly certain that the birth certificate and documentation is > >approximately correct. My previous non KP attempts at > >rectification suggested a time slightly later than quoted. > > > >Details for Shirley are: > > > >DOB 23 April 1928 > >9:00 pm PST +8:00 > >Santa Monica, California > >34N01'10" 118W29'25" > > > >My prasna was 11th December 2004 Brisbane, Australia 27S28 > >153E02 TZ -10:00. Time was 7:12:34pm > > > >Here I found the Day Lord to be Saturn, The Asc Rasi Lord > >Mercury, the Asc Star Lord Mars, the Moon Rasi Lord Mars, > >and the Moon Star Lord Saturn. Also Rahu is a strong R.P. as it > >is in the rasi of another R.P. - Mars. > > > >Here we see Mars, Saturn and Rahu as all being very strong. > > > >In Shirley's natal chart with a 9:00 pm birth the Asc is > >12 Scorpio 29'29". Therefore Scorpio rasi is confirmed by > >strong RP Mars. > > > >Mars rasi, Saturn star and Mars sub covers Scorpio 12-6-40 to > >12-53-20. and this confims Shirley was born within this > >configuration. > > > > > >The following configurations apply: > > > >8.58 pm Ma/Sa/Mo/Su > > > >9.00 pm Ma/Sa/Ma/Sa > > > >9:02 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Ra > > > >9:04 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Ju > > > >9:07 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Me > > > >We can eliminate 8:58 pm as Moon is not a R.P. Likewise 9:04 pm > >because sub sub Jupiter is also not a R.P. > > > >This leaves 9:00 - 9:02 pm and 9:07 pm because Me is a R.P. > > > >Now it gets tricky how do we decide which is the correct sub? > >Presumably we look for strength. Here Mars, Saturn and Rahu > >are all very strong so I would eliminate Me at 9:07pm. > > > >This leaves the options of Ma/Sa/Ma/Sa OR Ma/Sa/Ra/Ra. > >Rahu appears very strong, but Saturn aspects Rahu in the Prasna > >and appears to be calling the shots. > > > >I would appreciate members comments on which of these two would > >be the relevant time, and why. Do we need to go even further > >and use sub-sub-subs? > > > > > >Ron Gaunt > > > Find the music you love with MSN Music – tracks are just 99c! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Dear Kanak, The co-ordinates for Brisbane are 27S28, 153E02 Ron Gaunt >On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:01:07 -0800, you wrote: Dear Ron, Name of Place,1ST 3/4 LETTERS ? BRISBANE 321 BRISBANE QUEENSLAND AUSTRALIA 27-29N 153-08E +10.00 -04.30 IS This the Correct Place.. Y/N ? some deferace in Lon. let. i hve check with THE INTERNATIONAL ATLAS ( ACS Publications USA) it was 27 S 28 153 E 02 somthig wrong in my software regards kanak bosmia >rongaunt <rongaunt > > >Re: Micro Rectification >Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:04:18 +1000 > > >Dear Kanak, > >Thanks for your explanation. Yours is a different method to the >one I was following from a book. > >One thing I am puzzled about is that you show the query Asc as >87 57 30 ie 27 Gemini 57 30. My software gives me >4 Gemini 56:42 with Solar Fire set to Geocentric Lagna and >4 Gemini 49:36 with Parashara Light which I suspect is Geographic >Lagna. Are you certain that you have computed for Brisbane? > > >Ron Gaunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Dear Ron Gaunt, Kanak Bosmia, Astrodienst and RAND McNALLY, Atlas of the World, Masterpiece Edition also showing 27S28, 153E02 for Brisbane, Australia. Best regards, tw , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > > Dear Kanak, > > The co-ordinates for Brisbane are 27S28, 153E02 > > > Ron Gaunt > > > > >On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:01:07 -0800, you wrote: > > > Dear Ron, > > Name of Place,1ST 3/4 LETTERS ? BRISBANE > 321 > BRISBANE QUEENSLAND AUSTRALIA 27-29N 153-08E > +10.00 -04.30 > IS This the Correct Place.. Y/N ? > > some deferace in Lon. let. > > i hve check with THE INTERNATIONAL ATLAS ( ACS Publications USA) > > it was 27 S 28 153 E 02 > > somthig wrong in my software > > regards > > kanak bosmia > > >rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> > > > > > >Re: Micro Rectification > >Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:04:18 +1000 > > > > > >Dear Kanak, > > > >Thanks for your explanation. Yours is a different method to the > >one I was following from a book. > > > >One thing I am puzzled about is that you show the query Asc as > >87 57 30 ie 27 Gemini 57 30. My software gives me > >4 Gemini 56:42 with Solar Fire set to Geocentric Lagna and > >4 Gemini 49:36 with Parashara Light which I suspect is Geographic > >Lagna. Are you certain that you have computed for Brisbane? > > > > > >Ron Gaunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Dear Kanak, I have used the system you show to continue this rectification exercise. I get the birth Asc to be Ma/Sa/Ma/Sa and the RP for the prasna Moon to be Ma/Sa/Ju/Mo. The nearest alignment appears to move the Asc to Ma/Sa/Ju/Mo. This gives a time of birth of 9:17:43 pm. This is well away from the documented evidence. ie birth certificate and birth records. On reflection I had tried this method before in a discussion with Yogesh and again pointed out that the example was well away from the recorded birth time. Also a prior correspondent on this List also expressed misgivings when he checked a recorded birthtime. When I pointed this out, Yogesh said something to the effect to ignore using it, as it wasn't correct. How certain are you that this system works consistently? and if you are what might I be doing incorrectly? All the best Ron Gaunt On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:04:18 +1000, you wrote: > > >Dear Kanak, > >Thanks for your explanation. Yours is a different method to the >one I was following from a book. > >One thing I am puzzled about is that you show the query Asc as >87 57 30 ie 27 Gemini 57 30. My software gives me >4 Gemini 56:42 with Solar Fire set to Geocentric Lagna and >4 Gemini 49:36 with Parashara Light which I suspect is Geographic >Lagna. Are you certain that you have computed for Brisbane? > > >Ron Gaunt > > > > > >On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:01:07 -0800, you wrote: > >Dear Ron, > >RP Moon at you query is: > > TIME I.S.T.Hrs.Min,SEC ? 14,42,34 (Aus. time -4.30 = IST) > >DAY LORD IS SAT. > >ASC= 87 57 30 MERC JUP VEN JUP > >MOON/CHANDRA 226 17 18 MARS SAT JUP MOON >RAHU 5 34 45 MARS KETU RAHU RAHU >KETU 185 34 45 VEN MARS MOON MOON > > >RP Moon indicate Birth Asc. > >RP Moon is: MARS SAT JUP MOON > and birth asc For 8.58 pm Ma/Sa/Mo/Su > >now you can found most of time that RP Moon = Birth Asc.as it >is. > >MAR.SAT,MOON are in both rp and birth Asc. now if we adjest as: >MAR,SAT,MOON,JUP it was @ >Scorpio 11-19-27 to 11-28-20. you have to go back for some >seconds and you have found Asc. as MAR,SAT,MOON,JUP . > > >regards > >kanak bosmia > >>rongaunt <rongaunt >> >> >> Micro Rectification >>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:28:32 +1000 >> >>I am just starting to try my hand at micro rectification using >>KP, and I would appreciate learned members help and thoughts on >>my first case. >> >>I decided to check the chart of Shirley Temple Black because I am >>fairly certain that the birth certificate and documentation is >>approximately correct. My previous non KP attempts at >>rectification suggested a time slightly later than quoted. >> >>Details for Shirley are: >> >>DOB 23 April 1928 >>9:00 pm PST +8:00 >>Santa Monica, California >>34N01'10 " 118W29'25 " >> >>My prasna was 11th December 2004 Brisbane, Australia 27S28 >>153E02 TZ -10:00. Time was 7:12:34pm >> >>Here I found the Day Lord to be Saturn, The Asc Rasi Lord >>Mercury, the Asc Star Lord Mars, the Moon Rasi Lord Mars, >>and the Moon Star Lord Saturn. Also Rahu is a strong R.P. as it >>is in the rasi of another R.P. - Mars. >> >>Here we see Mars, Saturn and Rahu as all being very strong. >> >>In Shirley's natal chart with a 9:00 pm birth the Asc is >>12 Scorpio 29'29 " . Therefore Scorpio rasi is confirmed by >>strong RP Mars. >> >>Mars rasi, Saturn star and Mars sub covers Scorpio 12-6-40 to >>12-53-20. and this confims Shirley was born within this >>configuration. >> >> >>The following configurations apply: >> >>8.58 pm Ma/Sa/Mo/Su >> >>9.00 pm Ma/Sa/Ma/Sa >> >>9:02 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Ra >> >>9:04 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Ju >> >>9:07 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Me >> >>We can eliminate 8:58 pm as Moon is not a R.P. Likewise 9:04 pm >>because sub sub Jupiter is also not a R.P. >> >>This leaves 9:00 - 9:02 pm and 9:07 pm because Me is a R.P. >> >>Now it gets tricky how do we decide which is the correct sub? >>Presumably we look for strength. Here Mars, Saturn and Rahu >>are all very strong so I would eliminate Me at 9:07pm. >> >>This leaves the options of Ma/Sa/Ma/Sa OR Ma/Sa/Ra/Ra. >>Rahu appears very strong, but Saturn aspects Rahu in the Prasna >>and appears to be calling the shots. >> >>I would appreciate members comments on which of these two would >>be the relevant time, and why. Do we need to go even further >>and use sub-sub-subs? >> >> >>Ron Gaunt >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Dear Ron, i dont know why but some defferance in my calculation i attach horo. @8:54:30 PM . according to me it was right Birth time. ( in general talk 8:54:30 = 8:55 and it was possible for 5minte defferance in that time.) Asc: MAR,SAT.MOON,JUP Note: it is not nessecery to take all Moon RP same as . you can adjest . Here our RP MOON is MARS SAT JUP MOON But we take : MAR,SAT,MOON,JUP acording to you 8:58 is MAR,SAT,MOON,SUN But in my software give some other.so i attach horo pls check it . sorry for late reply regards kanak bosmia : JAY MAI GADHECHI MA : No. 28 Sahakar 2- Jagabhai Park Rambaug: Maninagar AHMEDABAD 380 008 TEL: 079-25431165 Mobile: 9825131165 email: kanbosastro BIRTH DETAILS OF DETAILS OF BIRTH CHART DATE : 23 4 1928 OTHER USEFUL INFORMATION DAY : MONDAY RASI : MITHUNA TIME : 20 H. 54 M. 30 S. STAR : Mrigs PLACE : SANTA MONICA - CALIFORNIA; CHARANA : FOURTH COUNTRY :USA* NADI : ANTYA YONI : GAJA LAT. : 34 Deg. 1 Min. N GANA : DEVA LONG. : 118 Deg. 29 Min. W VARNA : SHUDRA LAGNA. : Scorpio-Vrishika TATWA : VAYU LORD : Mar VASHYA : MANAVA RASI : Gemini-Mithuna LORD : Mer GHATACHAKRA [MALEFICS] NAKSHATRA : Mrigs 4 - Pada MONTH : ASHADHA NAK.LORD : Mar TITHI : 7-2-12 TITHI : VAISHAKH: 5: SAMVAT 1984 DAY : SOMAVAR SID.TIME : 11 H. 8 M. 29 S. STAR : SWATI AYANAMSA : 22 D. 45 M. 58 S. PRAHARA : 3rd SUN SIGN : TAURUS (Sayana) CHANDRA : 9th Cast By Kanakkumar.B. Bosmia ON 16-12-2004 Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77 JAY MAI GADHECHI MA : No. 28 Sahakar 2- Jagabhai Park Rambaug: Maninagar AHMEDABAD 380 008 TEL: 079-25431165 Mobile: 9825131165 email: kanbosastro BIRTH DETAILS OF TRADITIONAL BIRTH CHART: PLANETS WITH + ARE RETROGRADE NAKSHATRA: Mrigs- PADA 4 DASA BAL. Mars 0 Y. 45 Days ENDS ON 8 6 1928 *----------------*----------------*----------------*----------------* | * * * * | | 10 * * 8 * * 6 | |FOR. * 9 * * 7 * | | * SAT+ KETU * | | * * * * | | * 11 * * 5 * | | * * * * | * MARS * NEP+ * | * * * * | | 12 * * 2 * * 4 | |JUP. VEN. * * * * | |URAN * RAHU * | | * 1 * * 3 * | | * SUN. MERC * * MOON PLUT * | | * * * * | *----------------*----------------*----------------*----------------* TRADITIONAL NAVAMASA CHART *----------------*----------------*----------------*----------------* | * MOON * * * | | 9 * * 7 * * 5 | |KETU * 8 * * 6 * | | * URAN * | | * * * * | | * 10 * * 4 * | | * * * * | * VEN. * SUN. * | * * * * | | 11 * * 1 * * 3 | |SAT. * * * * RAHU | | * MERC PLUT * | | * 12 * * 2 * | | * MARS JUP. FOR. * * NEPT * | | * * * * | *----------------*----------------*----------------*----------------* Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77 ASTROLOGER:Kanakkumar.B. Bosmia Tel:079-25431165 DASAS TO BE ENJOYED BY VIMSOTTARI DASAS --- BHUKTIES Mar DASA 08 06 1921 -> 08 06 1928 |Rah DASA 08 06 1928 -> 08 06 1946 |Rah Bhk. 08 06 1928 -> 20 02 1931 |Jup Bhk. 20 02 1931 -> 14 07 1933 |Sat Bhk. 14 07 1933 -> 20 05 1936 |Mer Bhk. 20 05 1936 -> 08 12 1938 |Ket Bhk. 08 12 1938 -> 26 12 1939 |Ven Bhk. 26 12 1939 -> 26 12 1942 |Sun Bhk. 26 12 1942 -> 20 11 1943 |Moo Bhk. 20 11 1943 -> 20 05 1945 Moo Bhk. 24 04 1928 -> 08 06 1928 |Mar Bhk. 20 05 1945 -> 08 06 1946 Jup DASA 08 06 1946 -> 08 06 1962 |Sat DASA 08 06 1962 -> 08 06 1981 Jup Bhk. 08 06 1946 -> 26 07 1948 |Sat Bhk. 08 06 1962 -> 11 06 1965 Sat Bhk. 26 07 1948 -> 08 02 1951 |Mer Bhk. 11 06 1965 -> 20 02 1968 Mer Bhk. 08 02 1951 -> 14 05 1953 |Ket Bhk. 20 02 1968 -> 29 03 1969 Ket Bhk. 14 05 1953 -> 20 04 1954 |Ven Bhk. 29 03 1969 -> 29 05 1972 Ven Bhk. 20 04 1954 -> 20 12 1956 |Sun Bhk. 29 05 1972 -> 11 05 1973 Sun Bhk. 20 12 1956 -> 08 10 1957 |Moo Bhk. 11 05 1973 -> 11 12 1974 Moo Bhk. 08 10 1957 -> 08 02 1959 |Mar Bhk. 11 12 1974 -> 20 01 1976 Mar Bhk. 08 02 1959 -> 14 01 1960 |Rah Bhk. 20 01 1976 -> 26 11 1978 Rah Bhk. 14 01 1960 -> 08 06 1962 |Jup Bhk. 26 11 1978 -> 08 06 1981 Mer DASA 08 06 1981 -> 08 06 1998 |Ket DASA 08 06 1998 -> 08 06 2005 Mer Bhk. 08 06 1981 -> 05 11 1983 |Ket Bhk. 08 06 1998 -> 05 11 1998 Ket Bhk. 05 11 1983 -> 02 11 1984 |Ven Bhk. 05 11 1998 -> 05 01 2000 Ven Bhk. 02 11 1984 -> 02 09 1987 |Sun Bhk. 05 01 2000 -> 11 05 2000 Sun Bhk. 02 09 1987 -> 08 07 1988 |Moo Bhk. 11 05 2000 -> 11 12 2000 Moo Bhk. 08 07 1988 -> 08 12 1989 |Mar Bhk. 11 12 2000 -> 08 05 2001 Mar Bhk. 08 12 1989 -> 05 12 1990 |Rah Bhk. 08 05 2001 -> 26 05 2002 Rah Bhk. 05 12 1990 -> 23 06 1993 |Jup Bhk. 26 05 2002 -> 02 05 2003 Jup Bhk. 23 06 1993 -> 29 09 1995 |Sat Bhk. 02 05 2003 -> 11 06 2004 Sat Bhk. 29 09 1995 -> 08 06 1998 |Mer Bhk. 11 06 2004 -> 08 06 2005 Ven DASA 08 06 2005 -> 08 06 2025 |Sun DASA 08 06 2025 -> 08 06 2031 Ven Bhk. 08 06 2005 -> 08 10 2008 |Sun Bhk. 08 06 2025 -> 26 09 2025 Sun Bhk. 08 10 2008 -> 08 10 2009 |Moo Bhk. 26 09 2025 -> 26 03 2026 Moo Bhk. 08 10 2009 -> 08 06 2011 |Mar Bhk. 26 03 2026 -> 02 08 2026 Mar Bhk. 08 06 2011 -> 08 08 2012 |Rah Bhk. 02 08 2026 -> 26 06 2027 Rah Bhk. 08 08 2012 -> 08 08 2015 |Jup Bhk. 26 06 2027 -> 14 04 2028 Jup Bhk. 08 08 2015 -> 08 04 2018 |Sat Bhk. 14 04 2028 -> 26 03 2029 Sat Bhk. 08 04 2018 -> 08 06 2021 |Mer Bhk. 26 03 2029 -> 02 02 2030 Mer Bhk. 08 06 2021 -> 08 04 2024 |Ket Bhk. 02 02 2030 -> 08 06 2030 Ket Bhk. 08 04 2024 -> 08 06 2025 |Ven Bhk. 08 06 2030 -> 08 06 2031 Moo DASA 08 06 2031 -> 08 06 2041 | Moo Bhk. 08 06 2031 -> 08 04 2032 | Mar Bhk. 08 04 2032 -> 08 11 2032 | Rah Bhk. 08 11 2032 -> 08 05 2034 | Jup Bhk. 08 05 2034 -> 08 09 2035 | Sat Bhk. 08 09 2035 -> 08 04 2037 | Mer Bhk. 08 04 2037 -> 08 09 2038 | Ket Bhk. 08 09 2038 -> 08 04 2039 | Ven Bhk. 08 04 2039 -> 08 12 2040 | Sun Bhk. 08 12 2040 -> 08 06 2041 | : JAY MAI GADHECHI MA : No. 28 Sahakar 2- Jagabhai Park Rambaug: Maninagar AHMEDABAD 380 008 TEL: 079-25431165 Mobile: 9825131165 email: kanbosastro BIRTH DETAILS OF W E S T E R N A S P E C T S Plan. SUN. MOON MARS MERC JUP. VEN. SAT. RAHU KETU URAN NEPT FOR. PLUT SUN. MOON SXTL MARS SQUR TRIN MERC CONJ CONJ TRIN JUP. TRIN SQUR VEN. CONJ SXTL SQUR SAT. OPP CONJ RAHU OPP KETU URAN NEPT FOR. PLUT Planet ASC 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th SUN. CONJ Ssxt SXTL SQUR OPP MOON OPP CONJ 135 MARS CONJ SXTL OPP MERC CONJ OPP JUP. CONJ Ssqr OPP VEN. CONJ TRIN 150 OPP SAT. SQUR SXTL RAHU OPP CONJ KETU CONJ OPP URAN SXTL SQUR TRIN NEPT FOR. Ssqr TRIN PLUT SXTL SQUR TRIN ORBS Conj,opp =8.Sq. Trine 6,SEXT 6,Semis 2, Rest 2 deg. Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77 : JAY MAI GADHECHI MA : No. 28 Sahakar 2- Jagabhai Park Rambaug: Maninagar AHMEDABAD 380 008 TEL: 079-25431165 Mobile: 9825131165 email: kanbosastro QUERY: DATE :MONDAY: 23 - 4 - 1928 : TIME: 20 H. 54 M. 30 S.(I.S.T is 24 : 10 - 24 30 ) DASA BAL. : Mar 0 Y. 1 M. 14 Days: ENDS on 8 - 6 - 1928 Planet S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :Cusp S D M se Sgl Stl Sbl SsL SUN. 1 11 0 26 Mar Ket Sat Rah :ASC 8 11 26 17 Mar Sat Moo Jup MOON 3 6 25 55 Mer Mar Moo Ven :2nd 9 12 40 0 Jup Ket Mer Rah MARS 11 19 57 44 Sat Rah Mar Moo :3rd 10 17 48 54 Sat Moo Mer Mer MERC 1 0 44 44 Mar Ket Ket Mer :4th 11 23 14 26 Sat Jup Sat Mar JUP. 12 28 1 23 Jup Mer Sat Sat :5th 12 24 11 10 Jup Mer Rah Rah VEN. 12 22 45 56 Jup Mer Moo Sat :6th 1 19 37 40 Mar Ven Rah Ven SAT.-R 8 25 49 28 Mar Mer Rah Sun :7th 2 11 26 17 Ven Moo Mar Sat RAHU 2 18 50 12 Ven Moo Mer Rah :8th 3 12 40 0 Mer Rah Mer Mer KETU 8 18 50 12 Mar Mer Ket Mar :9th 4 17 48 54 Moo Mer Mer Rah URAN 12 12 19 6 Jup Sat Mar Jup :10th 5 23 14 26 Sun Ven Sat Moo NEPT-R 5 3 41 3 Sun Ket Moo Moo :11th 6 24 11 10 Mer Mar Rah Rah FOR. 10 6 51 46 Sat Sun Mer Sat :12th 7 19 37 40 Ven Rah Mar Mer PLUT 3 22 14 36 Mer Jup Sat Mer CUSP KUNDALI AS PER K.P. Shows Planets,Cusps,with Rasi Sign only. For retrogression,Deg Min refer to table above. Signs intercepted BUT with no planets in them are not printed.. *-*-* | * * * * | | * * * * | | * Fo 10 * * * | |3rd 10 * 2nd 9 * * 12t 7 * | | Ma 11 * * Asc 8 * * | | * Ke 8 Sa 8 * | | * * * * | | * * * * 11t 6| | * * * * | | * * * * | | * 4th 11 * * * | * Ur 12 Ve 12 * * | * * * * | | * * * 10t 5 * | | * * * * | |5th 12 * * * * | | Me 1 Su 1 * * * * | | Ju 12 * * | | * * Mo 3 Ra 2 * * Ne 5| | * 6th 1 * 7th 2 * 8th 3 * 9th 4| | * * * Pl 3 * | | * * * * | | * * * * | *-*-* : JAY MAI GADHECHI MA : No. 28 Sahakar 2- Jagabhai Park Rambaug: Maninagar AHMEDABAD 380 008 TEL: 079-25431165 Mobile: 9825131165 email: kanbosastro BIRTH DETAILS OF SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCE A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord HOUSE A B C D E F ---- ASC |URA:SUN:MER:NEP|SAT:KET: |MOO: |Mar|RA:KE:SA:ME|Moo | | | | |SU: | 2nd | |FOR: |PLU: |Jup|VE:SA:KE: |Mer | | | | | | 3rd | | |URA: |Sat|RA:KE: |Mer | | | | | | 4th |MOO: |MAR:URA: |URA: |Sat|RA:KE: |Sat | | | | | | 5th |FOR:JUP:VEN:SAT|SUN:MER:JUP:VEN|PLU: |Jup|VE:SA:KE:ME|Rah |KET:PLU: | | | |SU:JU:RA: | 6th | | |MOO: |Mar|RA: |Rah | | | | | | 7th |RAH:MAR: |MOO:RAH: | |Ven|JU:SA:KE:RA|Mar | | | | | | 8th | |PLU: |JUP:VEN:SAT|Mer|SU:VE:SA:KE|Mer | | |KET: | |JU:RA: | 9th | |NEP: |RAH: |Moo|SA:KE: |Mer | | | | | | 10th | | |FOR: |Sun|ME: |Sat | | | | | | 11th | | |JUP:VEN:SAT|Mer|SU:VE:SA:KE|Rah | | |KET: | |JU:RA: | 12th | | | |Ven|JU: |Mar | | | | | | ---- PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting Planets SUN. A-As,B-05,D-10, :ME:F- MOON A-04,B-07,C-As,C-06,D-09, :F- 1, MARS A-07,B-04,D-As,D-06, :F- 7,12, MERC A-As,B-05,D-08,D-11, :SU:F- 2, 3, 8, 9, JUP. A-05,B-05,C-08,C-11,D-02,D-05,:VE:F- VEN. A-05,B-05,C-08,C-11,D-07,D-12,:JU:F- SAT. A-05,B-As,C-08,C-11,D-03,D-04,:JU:RA:KE:F- 4,10, RAHU A-07,B-07,C-09, :MA:SA:KE:F- 5, 6,11, KETU A-05,B-As,C-08,C-11, :JU:SA:RA:F- URAN A-As,B-04,C-03,C-04, :JU:VE:F- NEPT A-As,B-09, :MA:SA:F- FOR. A-05,B-02,C-10, :SA:F- PLUT A-05,B-08,C-02,C-05, :MO:F- RAHU will ACT as AGENT for Ven,Moo also KETU will ACT as AGENT for Mar,Mer also Planets EXALTED or in OWN house Strongly signify the house owned These are : SUN.:EXA JUP.:OWN VEN.:EXA >rongaunt <rongaunt > > >Re: Micro Rectification >Wed, 15 Dec 2004 09:53:16 +1000 > > >Dear Kanak, > >I have used the system you show to continue this rectification >exercise. > >I get the birth Asc to be Ma/Sa/Ma/Sa >and the RP for the prasna Moon to be Ma/Sa/Ju/Mo. >The nearest alignment appears to move the Asc to >Ma/Sa/Ju/Mo. This gives a time of birth of >9:17:43 pm. This is well away from the documented evidence. >ie birth certificate and birth records. > >On reflection I had tried this method before in a discussion with >Yogesh and again pointed out that the example was well away from >the recorded birth time. Also a prior correspondent on this >List also expressed misgivings when he checked a recorded >birthtime. When I pointed this out, Yogesh said something to >the effect to ignore using it, as it wasn't correct. > >How certain are you that this system works consistently? >and if you are what might I be doing incorrectly? > >All the best > > >Ron Gaunt > > > >On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:04:18 +1000, you wrote: > > > > > > >Dear Kanak, > > > >Thanks for your explanation. Yours is a different method to the > >one I was following from a book. > > > >One thing I am puzzled about is that you show the query Asc as > >87 57 30 ie 27 Gemini 57 30. My software gives me > >4 Gemini 56:42 with Solar Fire set to Geocentric Lagna and > >4 Gemini 49:36 with Parashara Light which I suspect is Geographic > >Lagna. Are you certain that you have computed for Brisbane? > > > > > >Ron Gaunt > > > > > > > > > > > >On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 20:01:07 -0800, you wrote: > > > >Dear Ron, > > > >RP Moon at you query is: > > > > TIME I.S.T.Hrs.Min,SEC ? 14,42,34 (Aus. time -4.30 = IST) > > > >DAY LORD IS SAT. > > > >ASC= 87 57 30 MERC JUP VEN JUP > > > >MOON/CHANDRA 226 17 18 MARS SAT JUP MOON > >RAHU 5 34 45 MARS KETU RAHU RAHU > >KETU 185 34 45 VEN MARS MOON MOON > > > > > >RP Moon indicate Birth Asc. > > > >RP Moon is: MARS SAT JUP MOON > > and birth asc For 8.58 pm Ma/Sa/Mo/Su > > > >now you can found most of time that RP Moon = Birth Asc.as it > >is. > > > >MAR.SAT,MOON are in both rp and birth Asc. now if we adjest as: > >MAR,SAT,MOON,JUP it was @ > >Scorpio 11-19-27 to 11-28-20. you have to go back for some > >seconds and you have found Asc. as MAR,SAT,MOON,JUP . > > > > > >regards > > > >kanak bosmia > > > >>rongaunt <rongaunt > >> > >> > >> Micro Rectification > >>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:28:32 +1000 > >> > >>I am just starting to try my hand at micro rectification using > >>KP, and I would appreciate learned members help and thoughts on > >>my first case. > >> > >>I decided to check the chart of Shirley Temple Black because I am > >>fairly certain that the birth certificate and documentation is > >>approximately correct. My previous non KP attempts at > >>rectification suggested a time slightly later than quoted. > >> > >>Details for Shirley are: > >> > >>DOB 23 April 1928 > >>9:00 pm PST +8:00 > >>Santa Monica, California > >>34N01'10" 118W29'25" > >> > >>My prasna was 11th December 2004 Brisbane, Australia 27S28 > >>153E02 TZ -10:00. Time was 7:12:34pm > >> > >>Here I found the Day Lord to be Saturn, The Asc Rasi Lord > >>Mercury, the Asc Star Lord Mars, the Moon Rasi Lord Mars, > >>and the Moon Star Lord Saturn. Also Rahu is a strong R.P. as it > >>is in the rasi of another R.P. - Mars. > >> > >>Here we see Mars, Saturn and Rahu as all being very strong. > >> > >>In Shirley's natal chart with a 9:00 pm birth the Asc is > >>12 Scorpio 29'29". Therefore Scorpio rasi is confirmed by > >>strong RP Mars. > >> > >>Mars rasi, Saturn star and Mars sub covers Scorpio 12-6-40 to > >>12-53-20. and this confims Shirley was born within this > >>configuration. > >> > >> > >>The following configurations apply: > >> > >>8.58 pm Ma/Sa/Mo/Su > >> > >>9.00 pm Ma/Sa/Ma/Sa > >> > >>9:02 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Ra > >> > >>9:04 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Ju > >> > >>9:07 pm Ma/Sa/Ra/Me > >> > >>We can eliminate 8:58 pm as Moon is not a R.P. Likewise 9:04 pm > >>because sub sub Jupiter is also not a R.P. > >> > >>This leaves 9:00 - 9:02 pm and 9:07 pm because Me is a R.P. > >> > >>Now it gets tricky how do we decide which is the correct sub? > >>Presumably we look for strength. Here Mars, Saturn and Rahu > >>are all very strong so I would eliminate Me at 9:07pm. > >> > >>This leaves the options of Ma/Sa/Ma/Sa OR Ma/Sa/Ra/Ra. > >>Rahu appears very strong, but Saturn aspects Rahu in the Prasna > >>and appears to be calling the shots. > >> > >>I would appreciate members comments on which of these two would > >>be the relevant time, and why. Do we need to go even further > >>and use sub-sub-subs? > >> > >> > >>Ron Gaunt > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Dear Kanakkumar Bosmia, For your information, 23 Apr 1928, Mo 8:55 PM 118W29, 34N01 ST 11:08:58 (Astrodienst/Astro-Kundli/ JHL/ Astraura) St 11:08:29 (Raichur) By using KPA 22:45:58 (Rachur) Asc 11 Sc 26'17'' (Raichur) Mar-Sat-Moo-Jup Asc 11 Sc 27'09'' (Astrodienst/Astro-Kundli) Mar-Sat-Moo-Jup Asc 11 Sc 26'54'' (JHL) Mar-Sat-Moo-Jup Asc 11 Sc 26'52'' (Astraura) Mar-Sat-Moo-Jup Note: As usually all in Geocentric. Best regards, tw , " Kanakkumar Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Kanak, I have been micro adjusting my settings continually between the three programs I use to try to come to definite datum points . Comparing these with Mr Raichur's program they are nearly always the same, but where there is a difference it is near the cusp of the divisions. This is almost certainly due to the slight difference in calculation of the Moon between the different programs. For your calculation below 8:54:30 pm my programs agree with yours. I appreciate your imput. It is always difficult to come to a definite conclusion when there are completely different indications pointing to different times. I must admit I still have a preference for a T.O.B slightly after 9.00pm. ( I have rectified to 9:01:50pm). This is because in Shirley's life many transit events exactly aspect the MC and ASC with this time. Also I use locational astrology and interestingly Shirley has her all important Venus (conjunct Jupiter) very close to the Asc of relocation to Accra Ghana. She presented her credentials to the Head of State on 6th December 1974 as USA ambassador. In her autobiography she states this was " possibly the most thrilling moment of my life " . The Venus conjunction to the Accra Asc is exact with a 9:05pm birth but 9:01:50 is a close aspect. Whilst 8:55pm is still within orb it, is on the limit that I apply when I consider the Jupiter conjunction. All the best Ron Gaunt Dear Ron, i dont know why but some defferance in my calculation i attach horo. @8:54:30 PM . according to me it was right Birth time. ( in general talk 8:54:30 = 8:55 and it was possible for 5minte defferance in that time.) Asc: MAR,SAT.MOON,JUP Note: it is not nessecery to take all Moon RP same as . you can adjest . Here our RP MOON is MARS SAT JUP MOON But we take : MAR,SAT,MOON,JUP acording to you 8:58 is MAR,SAT,MOON,SUN But in my software give some other.so i attach horo pls check it . sorry for late reply regards kanak bosmia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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