Guest guest Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Dear Sandy, Kindly excuse me to intrude in. Your posts and that of Mr. Yogesh etc have very good over the time and I sincerely feel that you should not withdraw from the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Dear Vijay Kumar and List, Thank you. This is just a short note to let you know that Ron Gaunt's persistent - but gentle persuasion (and forwarded emails of support :- )) lured me back to reconsider my decision to leave the group, so I'm back. Thanks for your support...Hopefully we can all do our best to keep the peace and respect one another when we communicate. Communicating by email is a tough enough medium to decipher and translate emotions and intent - and misunderstandings can certainly occur. As it is - there is enough discord in the world without us contributing to the same. I'd also like to add that I apologize if I have misunderstood a certain few posts, or made anyone uncomfortable with my words or actions. All the Best, Sandy Crowther http://www.jupitersweb.com P.S. to Vijay: I'm female :-) , " vijay kumar " <v_kumar@c...> wrote: > Dear Sandy, > > Kindly excuse me to intrude in. > > Your posts and that of Mr. Yogesh etc have very good over the time and I sincerely feel that you should not withdraw from the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Good to have you with us Sandy. You are such a kind, wonderful, warm-hearted person. With best regards. Vaidun Vidyadhar 1 / 94 Marius Street Tamworth, NSW 2340 Australia Tel: 61-2-67 668428 (home) Mobile: 0414 870 083 Email: vvidya Sandy Crowther [sandy] Tuesday, 7 December 2004 10:51 AM Subject: Re: Request to Sandy Dear Vijay Kumar and List,Thank you. This is just a short note to let you know that Ron Gaunt's persistent - but gentle persuasion (and forwarded emails of support :-)) lured me back to reconsider my decision to leave the group, so I'm back.Thanks for your support...Hopefully we can all do our best to keep the peace and respect one another when we communicate. Communicating by email is a tough enough medium to decipher and translate emotions and intent - and misunderstandings can certainly occur. As it is - there is enough discord in the world without us contributing to the same. I'd also like to add that I apologize if I have misunderstood a certain few posts, or made anyone uncomfortable with my words or actions. All the Best, Sandy Crowtherhttp://www.jupitersweb.comP.S. to Vijay: I'm female :-) , "vijay kumar" <v_kumar@c...> wrote:> Dear Sandy,> > Kindly excuse me to intrude in.> > Your posts and that of Mr. Yogesh etc have very good over the time and I sincerely feel that you should not withdraw from the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Dear Sandy Crowther, I'm really very delighted to welcome you back, quoting - 1. SATAYA PRAKASH CHOWDAHRY, a KP scholar, " One has to be open minded and work hard. Krishnamurti himself wanted his students to be open and research minded so that they could take KP forward. I respect and love all the great minds who researched and revealed jyotish, but no one has monopoly over the truth. --- May the truth set us free. " in RULING PLANETS IN KP. http://members.optusnet.com.au/skinbags/id39.htm 2. K. HARIHARAN, S/o Guruji KSK, " In the preliminary chapters of K.P. Reader II Prof. Krishnamurti exhorts students of Astrology to learn thoroughly the works of our Sages and all books on Astrology written by the scholars on the subject " in NOTABLE PERSONS & KRISHNAMURTI PADHDHATI. 3. K. SUBRAMANIAM, S/o Guruji KSK, " The knowledge which we have gained by years of unceasing labour, we are sharing and with the world. We give it and if others can add it, we shall rejoice " , on back cover of ASTROLOGY & EDUCATION. Best regards, tw , " Sandy Crowther " <sandy@t...> wrote: > > > Dear Vijay Kumar and List, > > Thank you. This is just a short note to let you know that Ron Gaunt's > persistent - but gentle persuasion (and forwarded emails of support :- > )) lured me back to reconsider my decision to leave the group, so I'm > back. > > Thanks for your support...Hopefully we can all do our best to keep > the peace and respect one another when we communicate. Communicating > by email is a tough enough medium to decipher and translate emotions > and intent - and misunderstandings can certainly occur. As it is - > there is enough discord in the world without us contributing to the > same. > > I'd also like to add that I apologize if I have misunderstood a > certain few posts, or made anyone uncomfortable with my words or > actions. > > All the Best, > Sandy Crowther > http://www.jupitersweb.com > > P.S. to Vijay: I'm female :-) > > , " vijay kumar " <v_kumar@c...> wrote: > > Dear Sandy, > > > > Kindly excuse me to intrude in. > > > > Your posts and that of Mr. Yogesh etc have very good over the time > and I sincerely feel that you should not withdraw from the forum. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Dear Sandy, I am glad,dear Sandy,that you are now back with all of us...in the group... I also hasten to add that you will understand that I let,a little of my impatience, peep out,inadvertently,and I reiterate that there were no "evil" intentions at all of any kind at all...at any time...! Any way,I guess all's well that ends well,and I am certainly glad that you're back in the group... Wishing you the very best,I remain, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote: Dear Vijay Kumar and List,Thank you. This is just a short note to let you know that Ron Gaunt's persistent - but gentle persuasion (and forwarded emails of support :-)) lured me back to reconsider my decision to leave the group, so I'm back.Thanks for your support...Hopefully we can all do our best to keep the peace and respect one another when we communicate. Communicating by email is a tough enough medium to decipher and translate emotions and intent - and misunderstandings can certainly occur. As it is - there is enough discord in the world without us contributing to the same. I'd also like to add that I apologize if I have misunderstood a certain few posts, or made anyone uncomfortable with my words or actions. All the Best, Sandy Crowtherhttp://www.jupitersweb.comP.S. to Vijay: I'm female :-) , "vijay kumar" <v_kumar@c...> wrote:> Dear Sandy,> > Kindly excuse me to intrude in.> > Your posts and that of Mr. Yogesh etc have very good over the time and I sincerely feel that you should not withdraw from the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Dear Vijay Kumar, I appreciate your keen desire to "amalgamate" K.P., and Parasara's house division...etc... The Placidus system holds that the cusp of the house is from the house begins and it ends at the begining of the next house ... whereas,Parasara's and several other Traditional systems hold that the midpoint of the house is the starting point of a house till the midpoint of the next house,and advocate the EQUAL division of the 12 houses in the Zodiac,regardless of the Lattitude and Longitude etc, some even give very great importance to the M.C. point... (the mid point of the Xth house,the point when Sun a is at its Zenith at 12 noon)...there are thus, many systems being followed by Astrologers the world over... Under the circumstances we will only,perhaps be trying to amalgamate,let's say a system like the metric system with old British System of weights and measures...! ! The basics are entirely different... and the chances of confusion/mistakes are multiple...if due care is not taken... In my considered opinion,however,it will be an exercise in futility,as many erudite researchers/students etc., have,in the past, tried to, and could not,so far...arrive at any consensus,at least,as per my humble knowledge... K.P., is a very simple and straight forward system,very easily mastered, and there's very little ambiguity,in its rules,which are applicable easily...and most importantly,it is a judicious ,and most successful blend of the Traditional Vedic Astrology with the Western(Placidus system of House division,aspects etc.)...the best of BOTH...! The discoveries of the unequal sub,the decisive role of the sub-lord,the Ruling Planets theory...etc., are the unique inventions of Shri K.S.Krishnamurthiji,( but as contended in these columns,as originally discovered by Meena...only to perhaps,discredit KSK ?)... What's more is that,no other system has equalled the accuracy of K.P.,as demonstrated all over the world at lecture-demos, by KSK,and his several erudite students,repeatedly... In the Final Analysis,as our revered Guruji,Jyotish Marthand, the late Shri KSK says,the proof of the pudding is in eating it...! ! ! I have given,in these columns a step-wise method of applying K.P.,in both horary and Natal horoscopy...which if diligently followed will enable one to achieve a success-rate of atleast 80-90 %. The proof of the pudding...is in eating it . The Ball's now in your court...my friends... Yours sincerely, lyrastro1. GOOD LUCK ! Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Sandy, I am glad,dear Sandy,that you are now back with all of us...in the group... I also hasten to add that you will understand that I let,a little of my impatience, peep out,inadvertently,and I reiterate that there were no "evil" intentions at all of any kind at all...at any time...! Any way,I guess all's well that ends well,and I am certainly glad that you're back in the group... Wishing you the very best,I remain, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote: Dear Vijay Kumar and List,Thank you. This is just a short note to let you know that Ron Gaunt's persistent - but gentle persuasion (and forwarded emails of support :-)) lured me back to reconsider my decision to leave the group, so I'm back.Thanks for your support...Hopefully we can all do our best to keep the peace and respect one another when we communicate. Communicating by email is a tough enough medium to decipher and translate emotions and intent - and misunderstandings can certainly occur. As it is - there is enough discord in the world without us contributing to the same. I'd also like to add that I apologize if I have misunderstood a certain few posts, or made anyone uncomfortable with my words or actions. All the Best, Sandy Crowtherhttp://www.jupitersweb.comP.S. to Vijay: I'm female :-) , "vijay kumar" <v_kumar@c...> wrote:> Dear Sandy,> > Kindly excuse me to intrude in.> > Your posts and that of Mr. Yogesh etc have very good over the time and I sincerely feel that you should not withdraw from the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Dear Ms. Sandy, Welcome to the list back. We wish to have your lively presence always. Kindly excuse me, I did not know your gender. Thanks again & Regards, Vijay Kumar - " Sandy Crowther " <sandy Tuesday, December 07, 2004 5:21 AM Re: Request to Sandy > > > > Dear Vijay Kumar and List, > > Thank you. This is just a short note to let you know that Ron Gaunt's > persistent - but gentle persuasion (and forwarded emails of support :- > )) lured me back to reconsider my decision to leave the group, so I'm > back. > > Thanks for your support...Hopefully we can all do our best to keep > the peace and respect one another when we communicate. Communicating > by email is a tough enough medium to decipher and translate emotions > and intent - and misunderstandings can certainly occur. As it is - > there is enough discord in the world without us contributing to the > same. > > I'd also like to add that I apologize if I have misunderstood a > certain few posts, or made anyone uncomfortable with my words or > actions. > > All the Best, > Sandy Crowther > http://www.jupitersweb.com > > P.S. to Vijay: I'm female :-) > > , " vijay kumar " <v_kumar@c...> wrote: > > Dear Sandy, > > > > Kindly excuse me to intrude in. > > > > Your posts and that of Mr. Yogesh etc have very good over the time > and I sincerely feel that you should not withdraw from the forum. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Thanks.Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote: Dear Vijay Kumar and List,Thank you. This is just a short note to let you know that Ron Gaunt's persistent - but gentle persuasion (and forwarded emails of support :-)) lured me back to reconsider my decision to leave the group, so I'm back.Thanks for your support...Hopefully we can all do our best to keep the peace and respect one another when we communicate. Communicating by email is a tough enough medium to decipher and translate emotions and intent - and misunderstandings can certainly occur. As it is - there is enough discord in the world without us contributing to the same. I'd also like to add that I apologize if I have misunderstood a certain few posts, or made anyone uncomfortable with my words or actions. All the Best, Sandy Crowtherhttp://www.jupitersweb.comP.S. to Vijay: I'm female :-) , "vijay kumar" <v_kumar@c...> wrote:> Dear Sandy,> > Kindly excuse me to intrude in.> > Your posts and that of Mr. Yogesh etc have very good over the time and I sincerely feel that you should not withdraw from the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Dear Sh. Rao, No match to KP, it is a truth !! I am a humble follower to both Parashara and KP and have very high respect to both the systems. However, the fact remains that any system is yet not perfect because of our limitations of understanding it. If we humbly agree to it, we shall have lesser reservations to navigate between different systems of prognostications for better understanding of the mysteries of planets. Let us say, if a planet is identified negative for a matter in KP way, it may also be assessed whether the same planet is indicating similar situation in relevant D-charts of Parashara. By certain D-charts, we could even know whether the trouble area is because of the karmas of previous janmas etc. There is always a good chance that we may get a lot of guidance on a planetary situation by looking on both the systems to our advantage without breaking the barriers of any system. In such studies, the statistical analysis over a large number of cases may be required for establishing some set of rules to look for. Of course, while looking to the Parahara way, we may use KP ayanamsha to keep the reference same. In a similar way, the details may be worked out for positive planets for a matter in sight. This is not the ultimate, but this is only an example of what I wanted to say. It is a fact that Shri KSK had done a marvellous homewok in Parashari astrology and negated many of its rules, which is eye-opener for all of us and we all are indebted to his efforts. However, the KP system is left un-perfected because of early demise of Shri KSK. Perhaps, if KSK had remained alive for some more years, he would have taken this art to a better perfection. Let us not ignore the fact that there are many occassions which bring us to cross roads on predictions even in KP way of analysis. In case, if it sounds offending, I withdraw it here itself. I humbly understand all what has been mentioned as reply to this mail and I appreciate your reminder to me again. Thanks. PS : Mr. Rao, if you kindly recollect that I had mailed you long ago to find your credentials in KP astrology, which you had assured me through a seperate mail. Since, your view points in your writings are very crisp, I had the urge to know more about your goodself in respect of your contribution related to your writeups, experiences etc on KP. This has no other motive whatsoever. Thanks and Regards, Vijay Kumar - Yogesh Rao Lajmi Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:00 AM Re: Re: Request to Sandy Dear Vijay Kumar, I appreciate your keen desire to "amalgamate" K.P., and Parasara's house division...etc... The Placidus system holds that the cusp of the house is from the house begins and it ends at the begining of the next house ... whereas,Parasara's and several other Traditional systems hold that the midpoint of the house is the starting point of a house till the midpoint of the next house,and advocate the EQUAL division of the 12 houses in the Zodiac,regardless of the Lattitude and Longitude etc, some even give very great importance to the M.C. point... (the mid point of the Xth house,the point when Sun a is at its Zenith at 12 noon)...there are thus, many systems being followed by Astrologers the world over... Under the circumstances we will only,perhaps be trying to amalgamate,let's say a system like the metric system with old British System of weights and measures...! ! The basics are entirely different... and the chances of confusion/mistakes are multiple...if due care is not taken... In my considered opinion,however,it will be an exercise in futility,as many erudite researchers/students etc., have,in the past, tried to, and could not,so far...arrive at any consensus,at least,as per my humble knowledge... K.P., is a very simple and straight forward system,very easily mastered, and there's very little ambiguity,in its rules,which are applicable easily...and most importantly,it is a judicious ,and most successful blend of the Traditional Vedic Astrology with the Western(Placidus system of House division,aspects etc.)...the best of BOTH...! The discoveries of the unequal sub,the decisive role of the sub-lord,the Ruling Planets theory...etc., are the unique inventions of Shri K.S.Krishnamurthiji,( but as contended in these columns,as originally discovered by Meena...only to perhaps,discredit KSK ?)... What's more is that,no other system has equalled the accuracy of K.P.,as demonstrated all over the world at lecture-demos, by KSK,and his several erudite students,repeatedly... In the Final Analysis,as our revered Guruji,Jyotish Marthand, the late Shri KSK says,the proof of the pudding is in eating it...! ! ! I have given,in these columns a step-wise method of applying K.P.,in both horary and Natal horoscopy...which if diligently followed will enable one to achieve a success-rate of atleast 80-90 %. The proof of the pudding...is in eating it . The Ball's now in your court...my friends... Yours sincerely, lyrastro1. GOOD LUCK ! Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Sandy, I am glad,dear Sandy,that you are now back with all of us...in the group... I also hasten to add that you will understand that I let,a little of my impatience, peep out,inadvertently,and I reiterate that there were no "evil" intentions at all of any kind at all...at any time...! Any way,I guess all's well that ends well,and I am certainly glad that you're back in the group... Wishing you the very best,I remain, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote: Dear Vijay Kumar and List,Thank you. This is just a short note to let you know that Ron Gaunt's persistent - but gentle persuasion (and forwarded emails of support :-)) lured me back to reconsider my decision to leave the group, so I'm back.Thanks for your support...Hopefully we can all do our best to keep the peace and respect one another when we communicate. Communicating by email is a tough enough medium to decipher and translate emotions and intent - and misunderstandings can certainly occur. As it is - there is enough discord in the world without us contributing to the same. I'd also like to add that I apologize if I have misunderstood a certain few posts, or made anyone uncomfortable with my words or actions. All the Best, Sandy Crowtherhttp://www.jupitersweb.comP.S. to Vijay: I'm female :-) , "vijay kumar" <v_kumar@c...> wrote:> Dear Sandy,> > Kindly excuse me to intrude in.> > Your posts and that of Mr. Yogesh etc have very good over the time and I sincerely feel that you should not withdraw from the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 Dear Vijay, Since the early demise of our Guruji..his illustrious students,like Vaikary Ramamurthy,Prof.Balachandran,Pt.K.R.Kar,A.Balasekar,A.R.Raichur Narhari Khake,K.P.Kuppu Ganapathi, and a host of other erudite scholars are perfecting K.P.System,to bring about more accuracy and refinement, the sub-sub theory,the DRPE theory,methods of ultra fast/instant predictions etc., have been regularly appearing in K.P. & Astrology Magazine...however,as for me,I am perfectly satisfied with the 85-90% accuracy achieved by me using K.P. propounded by our Guruji KSK...and so are most of my clients...and I am still learning...! I agree with you that there is always scope for improvement in any scientific endeavour...but there is a limit to which perfection should be sought after,and after a time the effort required to get higher and higher accuracy becomes meaningless and self-defeating,as the law of diminishing returns begins to operate...? ! A perusal of these above mentioned theories certainly proves that more perfection is always possible...but the question I ask myself always is, to what purpose...? And,is it worth the effort ? Therefore I am satisfied with the accuracy I can achieve with the present system I use,and so are the vast majority of my clients... I used to,in the early days of my practice,startle a client by telling him his birthstar...correctly,upon his entering the room...(just as KSK's daughter used to do when she was just a child)...but I have stopped doing all this "showmanship"...because after doing all this if your predictions are way off target,you have achieved nothing...hence I began concetrating on a systematic analysis of the horoscope,and offering accurate predictions...and have been able to achieve a 85-90% success-rate,after a lot of practice,perhaps, one's intuition also gets sharpened and begins to work well... I began learning Astrology way back in the early 60's...and sometime in ' 75-76 when I was in posted at Bhopal,but I had almost given up studying astrology as it was NOT giving me any correct readings,so much so,that I was thoroughly disillusioned with,and had begun debunking astrology...but fortunately for me,as luck would have it our local Astrologers' Association,arranged a lecture-cum-demonstration by the then already famous-for-his-accuracy-and-speed,Prof. K.S.Krishnamurthi...! I was so tremendously impressed by his invention the "Krishnamurthi Padhdhati...", that I decided to become his disciple then and there... Ever since, I began learning and experimenting with the wonderful K.P. System...startling my colleagues at work,accurately predicting the exact time of return of the peon sent by me,from the bank...giving accurate predictions regarding their children,their admission to school,College,etc...and slowly developed a lot of expertise, and confidence,in various branches of prognostication...and after my retirement as Dy.Gen.Mgr.(Mktg.),Raptakos Brett & Co. Ltd.,in the year 1999,I began practising K.P. Astrology professionally. I hope,dear Vijay,that satisfies your curiosity about me... Wishing you the very best,I am, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !vijay kumar <v_kumar wrote: Dear Sh. Rao, No match to KP, it is a truth !! I am a humble follower to both Parashara and KP and have very high respect to both the systems. However, the fact remains that any system is yet not perfect because of our limitations of understanding it. If we humbly agree to it, we shall have lesser reservations to navigate between different systems of prognostications for better understanding of the mysteries of planets. Let us say, if a planet is identified negative for a matter in KP way, it may also be assessed whether the same planet is indicating similar situation in relevant D-charts of Parashara. By certain D-charts, we could even know whether the trouble area is because of the karmas of previous janmas etc. There is always a good chance that we may get a lot of guidance on a planetary situation by looking on both the systems to our advantage without breaking the barriers of any system. In such studies, the statistical analysis over a large number of cases may be required for establishing some set of rules to look for. Of course, while looking to the Parahara way, we may use KP ayanamsha to keep the reference same. In a similar way, the details may be worked out for positive planets for a matter in sight. This is not the ultimate, but this is only an example of what I wanted to say. It is a fact that Shri KSK had done a marvellous homewok in Parashari astrology and negated many of its rules, which is eye-opener for all of us and we all are indebted to his efforts. However, the KP system is left un-perfected because of early demise of Shri KSK. Perhaps, if KSK had remained alive for some more years, he would have taken this art to a better perfection. Let us not ignore the fact that there are many occassions which bring us to cross roads on predictions even in KP way of analysis. In case, if it sounds offending, I withdraw it here itself. I humbly understand all what has been mentioned as reply to this mail and I appreciate your reminder to me again. Thanks. PS : Mr. Rao, if you kindly recollect that I had mailed you long ago to find your credentials in KP astrology, which you had assured me through a seperate mail. Since, your view points in your writings are very crisp, I had the urge to know more about your goodself in respect of your contribution related to your writeups, experiences etc on KP. This has no other motive whatsoever. Thanks and Regards, Vijay Kumar - Yogesh Rao Lajmi Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:00 AM Re: Re: Request to Sandy Dear Vijay Kumar, I appreciate your keen desire to "amalgamate" K.P., and Parasara's house division...etc... The Placidus system holds that the cusp of the house is from the house begins and it ends at the begining of the next house ... whereas,Parasara's and several other Traditional systems hold that the midpoint of the house is the starting point of a house till the midpoint of the next house,and advocate the EQUAL division of the 12 houses in the Zodiac,regardless of the Lattitude and Longitude etc, some even give very great importance to the M.C. point... (the mid point of the Xth house,the point when Sun a is at its Zenith at 12 noon)...there are thus, many systems being followed by Astrologers the world over... Under the circumstances we will only,perhaps be trying to amalgamate,let's say a system like the metric system with old British System of weights and measures...! ! The basics are entirely different... and the chances of confusion/mistakes are multiple...if due care is not taken... In my considered opinion,however,it will be an exercise in futility,as many erudite researchers/students etc., have,in the past, tried to, and could not,so far...arrive at any consensus,at least,as per my humble knowledge... K.P., is a very simple and straight forward system,very easily mastered, and there's very little ambiguity,in its rules,which are applicable easily...and most importantly,it is a judicious ,and most successful blend of the Traditional Vedic Astrology with the Western(Placidus system of House division,aspects etc.)...the best of BOTH...! The discoveries of the unequal sub,the decisive role of the sub-lord,the Ruling Planets theory...etc., are the unique inventions of Shri K.S.Krishnamurthiji,( but as contended in these columns,as originally discovered by Meena...only to perhaps,discredit KSK ?)... What's more is that,no other system has equalled the accuracy of K.P.,as demonstrated all over the world at lecture-demos, by KSK,and his several erudite students,repeatedly... In the Final Analysis,as our revered Guruji,Jyotish Marthand, the late Shri KSK says,the proof of the pudding is in eating it...! ! ! I have given,in these columns a step-wise method of applying K.P.,in both horary and Natal horoscopy...which if diligently followed will enable one to achieve a success-rate of atleast 80-90 %. The proof of the pudding...is in eating it . The Ball's now in your court...my friends... Yours sincerely, lyrastro1. GOOD LUCK ! Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Sandy, I am glad,dear Sandy,that you are now back with all of us...in the group... I also hasten to add that you will understand that I let,a little of my impatience, peep out,inadvertently,and I reiterate that there were no "evil" intentions at all of any kind at all...at any time...! Any way,I guess all's well that ends well,and I am certainly glad that you're back in the group... Wishing you the very best,I remain, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote: Dear Vijay Kumar and List,Thank you. This is just a short note to let you know that Ron Gaunt's persistent - but gentle persuasion (and forwarded emails of support :-)) lured me back to reconsider my decision to leave the group, so I'm back.Thanks for your support...Hopefully we can all do our best to keep the peace and respect one another when we communicate. Communicating by email is a tough enough medium to decipher and translate emotions and intent - and misunderstandings can certainly occur. As it is - there is enough discord in the world without us contributing to the same. I'd also like to add that I apologize if I have misunderstood a certain few posts, or made anyone uncomfortable with my words or actions. All the Best, Sandy Crowtherhttp://www.jupitersweb.comP.S. to Vijay: I'm female :-) , "vijay kumar" <v_kumar@c...> wrote:> Dear Sandy,> > Kindly excuse me to intrude in.> > Your posts and that of Mr. Yogesh etc have very good over the time and I sincerely feel that you should not withdraw from the forum. 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Guest guest Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 CUT short ur replies so that anyone wishes to read carefully If u write so much ....even if it valuable it is not READ - Yogesh Rao Lajmi Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:10 PM Re: Re: Request to Sandy Dear Vijay, Since the early demise of our Guruji..his illustrious students,like Vaikary Ramamurthy,Prof.Balachandran,Pt.K.R.Kar,A.Balasekar,A.R.Raichur Narhari Khake,K.P.Kuppu Ganapathi, and a host of other erudite scholars are perfecting K.P.System,to bring about more accuracy and refinement, the sub-sub theory,the DRPE theory,methods of ultra fast/instant predictions etc., have been regularly appearing in K.P. & Astrology Magazine...however,as for me,I am perfectly satisfied with the 85-90% accuracy achieved by me using K.P. propounded by our Guruji KSK...and so are most of my clients...and I am still learning...! I agree with you that there is always scope for improvement in any scientific endeavour...but there is a limit to which perfection should be sought after,and after a time the effort required to get higher and higher accuracy becomes meaningless and self-defeating,as the law of diminishing returns begins to operate...? ! A perusal of these above mentioned theories certainly proves that more perfection is always possible...but the question I ask myself always is, to what purpose...? And,is it worth the effort ? Therefore I am satisfied with the accuracy I can achieve with the present system I use,and so are the vast majority of my clients... I used to,in the early days of my practice,startle a client by telling him his birthstar...correctly,upon his entering the room...(just as KSK's daughter used to do when she was just a child)...but I have stopped doing all this "showmanship"...because after doing all this if your predictions are way off target,you have achieved nothing...hence I began concetrating on a systematic analysis of the horoscope,and offering accurate predictions...and have been able to achieve a 85-90% success-rate,after a lot of practice,perhaps, one's intuition also gets sharpened and begins to work well... I began learning Astrology way back in the early 60's...and sometime in ' 75-76 when I was in posted at Bhopal,but I had almost given up studying astrology as it was NOT giving me any correct readings,so much so,that I was thoroughly disillusioned with,and had begun debunking astrology...but fortunately for me,as luck would have it our local Astrologers' Association,arranged a lecture-cum-demonstration by the then already famous-for-his-accuracy-and-speed,Prof. K.S.Krishnamurthi...! I was so tremendously impressed by his invention the "Krishnamurthi Padhdhati...", that I decided to become his disciple then and there... Ever since, I began learning and experimenting with the wonderful K.P. System...startling my colleagues at work,accurately predicting the exact time of return of the peon sent by me,from the bank...giving accurate predictions regarding their children,their admission to school,College,etc...and slowly developed a lot of expertise, and confidence,in various branches of prognostication...and after my retirement as Dy.Gen.Mgr.(Mktg.),Raptakos Brett & Co. Ltd.,in the year 1999,I began practising K.P. Astrology professionally. I hope,dear Vijay,that satisfies your curiosity about me... Wishing you the very best,I am, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !vijay kumar <v_kumar wrote: Dear Sh. Rao, No match to KP, it is a truth !! I am a humble follower to both Parashara and KP and have very high respect to both the systems. However, the fact remains that any system is yet not perfect because of our limitations of understanding it. If we humbly agree to it, we shall have lesser reservations to navigate between different systems of prognostications for better understanding of the mysteries of planets. Let us say, if a planet is identified negative for a matter in KP way, it may also be assessed whether the same planet is indicating similar situation in relevant D-charts of Parashara. By certain D-charts, we could even know whether the trouble area is because of the karmas of previous janmas etc. There is always a good chance that we may get a lot of guidance on a planetary situation by looking on both the systems to our advantage without breaking the barriers of any system. In such studies, the statistical analysis over a large number of cases may be required for establishing some set of rules to look for. Of course, while looking to the Parahara way, we may use KP ayanamsha to keep the reference same. In a similar way, the details may be worked out for positive planets for a matter in sight. This is not the ultimate, but this is only an example of what I wanted to say. It is a fact that Shri KSK had done a marvellous homewok in Parashari astrology and negated many of its rules, which is eye-opener for all of us and we all are indebted to his efforts. However, the KP system is left un-perfected because of early demise of Shri KSK. Perhaps, if KSK had remained alive for some more years, he would have taken this art to a better perfection. Let us not ignore the fact that there are many occassions which bring us to cross roads on predictions even in KP way of analysis. In case, if it sounds offending, I withdraw it here itself. I humbly understand all what has been mentioned as reply to this mail and I appreciate your reminder to me again. Thanks. PS : Mr. Rao, if you kindly recollect that I had mailed you long ago to find your credentials in KP astrology, which you had assured me through a seperate mail. Since, your view points in your writings are very crisp, I had the urge to know more about your goodself in respect of your contribution related to your writeups, experiences etc on KP. This has no other motive whatsoever. Thanks and Regards, Vijay Kumar - Yogesh Rao Lajmi Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:00 AM Re: Re: Request to Sandy Dear Vijay Kumar, I appreciate your keen desire to "amalgamate" K.P., and Parasara's house division...etc... The Placidus system holds that the cusp of the house is from the house begins and it ends at the begining of the next house ... whereas,Parasara's and several other Traditional systems hold that the midpoint of the house is the starting point of a house till the midpoint of the next house,and advocate the EQUAL division of the 12 houses in the Zodiac,regardless of the Lattitude and Longitude etc, some even give very great importance to the M.C. point... (the mid point of the Xth house,the point when Sun a is at its Zenith at 12 noon)...there are thus, many systems being followed by Astrologers the world over... Under the circumstances we will only,perhaps be trying to amalgamate,let's say a system like the metric system with old British System of weights and measures...! ! The basics are entirely different... and the chances of confusion/mistakes are multiple...if due care is not taken... In my considered opinion,however,it will be an exercise in futility,as many erudite researchers/students etc., have,in the past, tried to, and could not,so far...arrive at any consensus,at least,as per my humble knowledge... K.P., is a very simple and straight forward system,very easily mastered, and there's very little ambiguity,in its rules,which are applicable easily...and most importantly,it is a judicious ,and most successful blend of the Traditional Vedic Astrology with the Western(Placidus system of House division,aspects etc.)...the best of BOTH...! The discoveries of the unequal sub,the decisive role of the sub-lord,the Ruling Planets theory...etc., are the unique inventions of Shri K.S.Krishnamurthiji,( but as contended in these columns,as originally discovered by Meena...only to perhaps,discredit KSK ?)... What's more is that,no other system has equalled the accuracy of K.P.,as demonstrated all over the world at lecture-demos, by KSK,and his several erudite students,repeatedly... In the Final Analysis,as our revered Guruji,Jyotish Marthand, the late Shri KSK says,the proof of the pudding is in eating it...! ! ! I have given,in these columns a step-wise method of applying K.P.,in both horary and Natal horoscopy...which if diligently followed will enable one to achieve a success-rate of atleast 80-90 %. The proof of the pudding...is in eating it . The Ball's now in your court...my friends... Yours sincerely, lyrastro1. GOOD LUCK ! Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Sandy, I am glad,dear Sandy,that you are now back with all of us...in the group... I also hasten to add that you will understand that I let,a little of my impatience, peep out,inadvertently,and I reiterate that there were no "evil" intentions at all of any kind at all...at any time...! Any way,I guess all's well that ends well,and I am certainly glad that you're back in the group... Wishing you the very best,I remain, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote: Dear Vijay Kumar and List,Thank you. This is just a short note to let you know that Ron Gaunt's persistent - but gentle persuasion (and forwarded emails of support :-)) lured me back to reconsider my decision to leave the group, so I'm back.Thanks for your support...Hopefully we can all do our best to keep the peace and respect one another when we communicate. Communicating by email is a tough enough medium to decipher and translate emotions and intent - and misunderstandings can certainly occur. As it is - there is enough discord in the world without us contributing to the same. I'd also like to add that I apologize if I have misunderstood a certain few posts, or made anyone uncomfortable with my words or actions. All the Best, Sandy Crowtherhttp://www.jupitersweb.comP.S. to Vijay: I'm female :-) , "vijay kumar" <v_kumar@c...> wrote:> Dear Sandy,> > Kindly excuse me to intrude in.> > Your posts and that of Mr. Yogesh etc have very good over the time and I sincerely feel that you should not withdraw from the forum. 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Guest guest Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Dear Raju, People who are interested,and understand, do read,however long the reply is...provided it is meaningful...to them ! lyrastro1raju bokaariya <bhr_rbokariya wrote: CUT short ur replies so that anyone wishes to read carefully If u write so much ....even if it valuable it is not READ - Yogesh Rao Lajmi Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:10 PM Re: Re: Request to Sandy Dear Vijay, Since the early demise of our Guruji..his illustrious students,like Vaikary Ramamurthy,Prof.Balachandran,Pt.K.R.Kar,A.Balasekar,A.R.Raichur Narhari Khake,K.P.Kuppu Ganapathi, and a host of other erudite scholars are perfecting K.P.System,to bring about more accuracy and refinement, the sub-sub theory,the DRPE theory,methods of ultra fast/instant predictions etc., have been regularly appearing in K.P. & Astrology Magazine...however,as for me,I am perfectly satisfied with the 85-90% accuracy achieved by me using K.P. propounded by our Guruji KSK...and so are most of my clients...and I am still learning...! I agree with you that there is always scope for improvement in any scientific endeavour...but there is a limit to which perfection should be sought after,and after a time the effort required to get higher and higher accuracy becomes meaningless and self-defeating,as the law of diminishing returns begins to operate...? ! A perusal of these above mentioned theories certainly proves that more perfection is always possible...but the question I ask myself always is, to what purpose...? And,is it worth the effort ? Therefore I am satisfied with the accuracy I can achieve with the present system I use,and so are the vast majority of my clients... I used to,in the early days of my practice,startle a client by telling him his birthstar...correctly,upon his entering the room...(just as KSK's daughter used to do when she was just a child)...but I have stopped doing all this "showmanship"...because after doing all this if your predictions are way off target,you have achieved nothing...hence I began concetrating on a systematic analysis of the horoscope,and offering accurate predictions...and have been able to achieve a 85-90% success-rate,after a lot of practice,perhaps, one's intuition also gets sharpened and begins to work well... I began learning Astrology way back in the early 60's...and sometime in ' 75-76 when I was in posted at Bhopal,but I had almost given up studying astrology as it was NOT giving me any correct readings,so much so,that I was thoroughly disillusioned with,and had begun debunking astrology...but fortunately for me,as luck would have it our local Astrologers' Association,arranged a lecture-cum-demonstration by the then already famous-for-his-accuracy-and-speed,Prof. K.S.Krishnamurthi...! I was so tremendously impressed by his invention the "Krishnamurthi Padhdhati...", that I decided to become his disciple then and there... Ever since, I began learning and experimenting with the wonderful K.P. System...startling my colleagues at work,accurately predicting the exact time of return of the peon sent by me,from the bank...giving accurate predictions regarding their children,their admission to school,College,etc...and slowly developed a lot of expertise, and confidence,in various branches of prognostication...and after my retirement as Dy.Gen.Mgr.(Mktg.),Raptakos Brett & Co. Ltd.,in the year 1999,I began practising K.P. Astrology professionally. I hope,dear Vijay,that satisfies your curiosity about me... Wishing you the very best,I am, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !vijay kumar <v_kumar wrote: Dear Sh. Rao, No match to KP, it is a truth !! I am a humble follower to both Parashara and KP and have very high respect to both the systems. However, the fact remains that any system is yet not perfect because of our limitations of understanding it. If we humbly agree to it, we shall have lesser reservations to navigate between different systems of prognostications for better understanding of the mysteries of planets. Let us say, if a planet is identified negative for a matter in KP way, it may also be assessed whether the same planet is indicating similar situation in relevant D-charts of Parashara. By certain D-charts, we could even know whether the trouble area is because of the karmas of previous janmas etc. There is always a good chance that we may get a lot of guidance on a planetary situation by looking on both the systems to our advantage without breaking the barriers of any system. In such studies, the statistical analysis over a large number of cases may be required for establishing some set of rules to look for. Of course, while looking to the Parahara way, we may use KP ayanamsha to keep the reference same. In a similar way, the details may be worked out for positive planets for a matter in sight. This is not the ultimate, but this is only an example of what I wanted to say. It is a fact that Shri KSK had done a marvellous homewok in Parashari astrology and negated many of its rules, which is eye-opener for all of us and we all are indebted to his efforts. However, the KP system is left un-perfected because of early demise of Shri KSK. Perhaps, if KSK had remained alive for some more years, he would have taken this art to a better perfection. Let us not ignore the fact that there are many occassions which bring us to cross roads on predictions even in KP way of analysis. In case, if it sounds offending, I withdraw it here itself. I humbly understand all what has been mentioned as reply to this mail and I appreciate your reminder to me again. Thanks. PS : Mr. Rao, if you kindly recollect that I had mailed you long ago to find your credentials in KP astrology, which you had assured me through a seperate mail. Since, your view points in your writings are very crisp, I had the urge to know more about your goodself in respect of your contribution related to your writeups, experiences etc on KP. This has no other motive whatsoever. Thanks and Regards, Vijay Kumar - Yogesh Rao Lajmi Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:00 AM Re: Re: Request to Sandy Dear Vijay Kumar, I appreciate your keen desire to "amalgamate" K.P., and Parasara's house division...etc... The Placidus system holds that the cusp of the house is from the house begins and it ends at the begining of the next house ... whereas,Parasara's and several other Traditional systems hold that the midpoint of the house is the starting point of a house till the midpoint of the next house,and advocate the EQUAL division of the 12 houses in the Zodiac,regardless of the Lattitude and Longitude etc, some even give very great importance to the M.C. point... (the mid point of the Xth house,the point when Sun a is at its Zenith at 12 noon)...there are thus, many systems being followed by Astrologers the world over... Under the circumstances we will only,perhaps be trying to amalgamate,let's say a system like the metric system with old British System of weights and measures...! ! The basics are entirely different... and the chances of confusion/mistakes are multiple...if due care is not taken... In my considered opinion,however,it will be an exercise in futility,as many erudite researchers/students etc., have,in the past, tried to, and could not,so far...arrive at any consensus,at least,as per my humble knowledge... K.P., is a very simple and straight forward system,very easily mastered, and there's very little ambiguity,in its rules,which are applicable easily...and most importantly,it is a judicious ,and most successful blend of the Traditional Vedic Astrology with the Western(Placidus system of House division,aspects etc.)...the best of BOTH...! The discoveries of the unequal sub,the decisive role of the sub-lord,the Ruling Planets theory...etc., are the unique inventions of Shri K.S.Krishnamurthiji,( but as contended in these columns,as originally discovered by Meena...only to perhaps,discredit KSK ?)... What's more is that,no other system has equalled the accuracy of K.P.,as demonstrated all over the world at lecture-demos, by KSK,and his several erudite students,repeatedly... In the Final Analysis,as our revered Guruji,Jyotish Marthand, the late Shri KSK says,the proof of the pudding is in eating it...! ! ! I have given,in these columns a step-wise method of applying K.P.,in both horary and Natal horoscopy...which if diligently followed will enable one to achieve a success-rate of atleast 80-90 %. The proof of the pudding...is in eating it . The Ball's now in your court...my friends... Yours sincerely, lyrastro1. GOOD LUCK ! Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Sandy, I am glad,dear Sandy,that you are now back with all of us...in the group... I also hasten to add that you will understand that I let,a little of my impatience, peep out,inadvertently,and I reiterate that there were no "evil" intentions at all of any kind at all...at any time...! Any way,I guess all's well that ends well,and I am certainly glad that you're back in the group... Wishing you the very best,I remain, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote: Dear Vijay Kumar and List,Thank you. This is just a short note to let you know that Ron Gaunt's persistent - but gentle persuasion (and forwarded emails of support :-)) lured me back to reconsider my decision to leave the group, so I'm back.Thanks for your support...Hopefully we can all do our best to keep the peace and respect one another when we communicate. Communicating by email is a tough enough medium to decipher and translate emotions and intent - and misunderstandings can certainly occur. As it is - there is enough discord in the world without us contributing to the same. I'd also like to add that I apologize if I have misunderstood a certain few posts, or made anyone uncomfortable with my words or actions. All the Best, Sandy Crowtherhttp://www.jupitersweb.comP.S. to Vijay: I'm female :-) , "vijay kumar" <v_kumar@c...> wrote:> Dear Sandy,> > Kindly excuse me to intrude in.> > Your posts and that of Mr. Yogesh etc have very good over the time and I sincerely feel that you should not withdraw from the forum. 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