Guest guest Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Dear all Help required to Rectify TOB, as follows: Date of Query: 5th October 2004, 18:32:23 hours, NZDST, Auckland, New Zealand Query: Rectify TOB if required? Date of Birth: 8th Oct 1958, Recorded time of Birth : 00:01 am, Place: New Delhi , India This gives Lagna as Gemini 28deg 21 min 36 sec ruled by Merc, Jup, Ven, Merc and Mon at Cancer 11 deg 35 min 7 sec, ruled by Mon, Sat, Mon, Sat To rectify TOB, as per rule, Sub Lord Cusp(1) should be same as Moon's Star Lord Here Sub Lord Cusp(1) = VENUS and Star Lord of Moon is SAT To get SLC(1) = Sat, Lagna should be moved to either at Gemini 21-46-40 to 23-53-20 è that is, Rectified TOB should be 23.46 hours on 7th October 1958 OR Cancer 3-20-00 to 5-26-40 è that is, Rectified TOB should be 11:25 hours Question is : Which is the right TOB? Love Ravinder GRover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Dear Ravindra i am not agree with you. you mean to say moon was in SAT star so Asc sub is also SAT . it means all day all child birth with asc sub as SAT ???????? bcoz moon star was SAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! i dont think it is right method to check birth time. pls refer Book " SECRETS OF R.P. & THE BIRTH TIME By: K.Baskaran Publishe KRISHMAN & CO 804 Mount Road, Chhennai 600 002 " according to him RP MOON = Bith Asc. and RP Asc. = Birth Moon.( ksk himself wrote in any one reader about RP Moon = Birth Asc. but i dont remember no: and Page No.) frist you go up to birth Mon Sub-Sub-Sub level . and calcutet asc for that time you can found Bith asc as RP MOON most of case. i found very accuret result by this method. and it is my personal view . kanak bosmia >Ravinder Grover <astrology > >hanskpvedic >CC: > RECTIFICATION OF TIME OF BIRTH >Sun, 05 Dec 2004 18:46:51 +1300 > >Dear all > >Help required to Rectify TOB, as follows: > > >Date of Query: 5th October 2004, 18:32:23 hours, NZDST, Auckland, New Zealand > >Query: Rectify TOB if required? > >Date of Birth: 8th Oct 1958, Recorded time of Birth : 00:01 am, Place: New Delhi , India > >This gives Lagna as Gemini 28deg 21 min 36 sec ruled by Merc, Jup, Ven, Merc > >and Mon at Cancer 11 deg 35 min 7 sec, ruled by Mon, Sat, Mon, Sat > >To rectify TOB, as per rule, Sub Lord Cusp(1) should be same as Moon's Star Lord > >Here Sub Lord Cusp(1) = VENUS and Star Lord of Moon is SAT > >To get SLC(1) = Sat, Lagna should be moved to > > a.. either at Gemini 21-46-40 to 23-53-20 è that is, Rectified TOB should be 23.46 hours on 7th October 1958 > b.. OR Cancer 3-20-00 to 5-26-40 è that is, Rectified TOB should be 11:25 hours >Question is : Which is the right TOB? > >Love > > > >Ravinder GRover > Claim your Space NOW! Have fun sharing blogs, photos and music lists online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Dear Mr.Raichur, The Moon star may remain the same,as you point out,but,the sub-lord of the Ascendant keeps changing very rapidly... This is the rule to examine whether a given chart is correct or not,as given in Astrosecrets and K.P., by K.Subramaniam,p.237. With highest regards, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! Dear Friends Will someone enlighten me on the RULE "the sub-lord of the Asc must be the Star Lord of the MOON. " The Moon remains in one Nakstra for nearly 2 days. Thus the Moons star lord does not change in these 2 days. According to the RULE, all births in this two day period should have the SAME SUB. This is not at all logical. I for one do not use this rule. good luck Ravinder Grover <astrology wrote: Dear all Help required to Rectify TOB, as follows: Date of Query: 5th October 2004, 18:32:23 hours, NZDST, Auckland, New Zealand Query: Rectify TOB if required? Date of Birth: 8th Oct 1958, Recorded time of Birth : 00:01 am, Place: New Delhi , India This gives Lagna as Gemini 28deg 21 min 36 sec ruled by Merc, Jup, Ven, Merc and Mon at Cancer 11 deg 35 min 7 sec, ruled by Mon, Sat, Mon, Sat To rectify TOB, as per rule, Sub Lord Cusp(1) should be same as Moon's Star Lord Here Sub Lord Cusp(1) = VENUS and Star Lord of Moon is SAT To get SLC(1) = Sat, Lagna should be moved to either at Gemini 21-46-40 to 23-53-20 è that is, Rectified TOB should be 23.46 hours on 7th October 1958 OR Cancer 3-20-00 to 5-26-40 è that is, Rectified TOB should be 11:25 hours Question is : Which is the right TOB? Love Ravinder GRover --------- A.R.Raichur bombayanant_1608 raichuranant USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLYtel: 022-2506 2609 --------- Meet the all-new My – Try it today! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Dear Ravinder, When in doubt,always follow the Golden Rule in K.P., : Confirm with the help of RPs...! Yours sincerely, lyrastro1Ravinder Grover <astrology wrote: Dear all Help required to Rectify TOB, as follows: Date of Query: 5th October 2004, 18:32:23 hours, NZDST, Auckland, New Zealand Query: Rectify TOB if required? Date of Birth: 8th Oct 1958, Recorded time of Birth : 00:01 am, Place: New Delhi , India This gives Lagna as Gemini 28deg 21 min 36 sec ruled by Merc, Jup, Ven, Merc and Mon at Cancer 11 deg 35 min 7 sec, ruled by Mon, Sat, Mon, Sat To rectify TOB, as per rule, Sub Lord Cusp(1) should be same as Moon's Star Lord Here Sub Lord Cusp(1) = VENUS and Star Lord of Moon is SAT To get SLC(1) = Sat, Lagna should be moved to either at Gemini 21-46-40 to 23-53-20 è that is, Rectified TOB should be 23.46 hours on 7th October 1958 OR Cancer 3-20-00 to 5-26-40 è that is, Rectified TOB should be 11:25 hours Question is : Which is the right TOB? Love Ravinder GRover India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Dear Kanakkumar Bosmia, 1. Some interesting points in K Baskaran's book among others, importance of Moon, correctness of KPA, Raichur Emphem, dogmatic approach, decisive role of father's horoscope in deciding the sex of child because the male sperms determines the sex of child. 2. Perhaps it's Rectification of Birth Time, KP Reader III, p 317-329, to refer KP Reader. In p 325, inter-link of the time of birth and --- the moment of query are understandable from a horary horoscope erected according to Varaha Mihira's Brihat Jataka --- no second opinion, lord of the sign in which Moon is --- and lord of the Lagna--- will be the same ------ Best regards, tw , " Kanakkumar Bosmia " <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Dear tw853, The father's horoscope can be taken,provided one is certain that the person whose horoscope you are analysing,is the true father,and that he has impregnated the mother,which fact, only the mother knows for sure, and can vouch for...Isn't it ? That is the only reason why the mother's chart is more logical...and rational to consider,in case of child-birth... Personally I feel that there is no need to stretch this point to this extent,unless the father is considered so very important,( male chavinism at work ?,) but truly speaking scientifically the male "officially married to",and hence called the husband,and assumed to be the father of the child of the woman "he married",need not necessarily be the father of the child...only the woman can vouch for paternity...! And that,dear tw, is an incontrovertible scientific fact ! With best wishes, lyrastro1 tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Kanakkumar Bosmia,1. Some interesting points in K Baskaran's book among others, importance of Moon, correctness of KPA, Raichur Emphem, dogmatic approach, decisive role of father's horoscope in deciding the sex of child because the male sperms determines the sex of child. 2. Perhaps it's Rectification of Birth Time, KP Reader III, p 317-329, to refer KP Reader. In p 325, inter-link of the time of birth and --- the moment of query are understandable from a horary horoscope erected according to Varaha Mihira's Brihat Jataka --- no second opinion, lord of the sign in which Moon is --- and lord of the Lagna--- will be the same ------Best regards,tw , "Kanakkumar Bosmia" <kanbosastro@h...> wrote:> India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi, It's K Baskaran's view referring to some kind of practical scientific test like DNA which has a logical reasoning for food for thought. Best regards, tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote: > Dear tw853, > The father's horoscope can be taken,provided one is certain that the person whose horoscope you are analysing,is the true father,and that he has impregnated the mother,which fact, only the mother knows for sure, and can vouch for...Isn't it ? > That is the only reason why the mother's chart is more logical...and rational to consider,in case of child-birth... > Personally I feel that there is no need to stretch this point to this extent,unless the father is considered so very important,( male chavinism at work ?,) but truly speaking scientifically the male " officially married to " ,and hence called the husband,and assumed to be the father of the child of the woman " he married " ,need not necessarily be the father of the child...only the woman > can vouch for paternity...! > And that,dear tw, is an incontrovertible scientific fact ! > With best wishes, > lyrastro1 > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > Dear Kanakkumar Bosmia, > > > 1. Some interesting points in K Baskaran's book among others, > importance of Moon, correctness of KPA, Raichur Emphem, dogmatic > approach, decisive role of father's horoscope in deciding the sex of > child because the male sperms determines the sex of child. > > 2. Perhaps it's Rectification of Birth Time, KP Reader III, p > 317-329, to refer KP Reader. In p 325, inter-link of the time of > birth and --- the moment of query are understandable from a horary > horoscope erected according to Varaha Mihira's Brihat Jataka --- no > second opinion, lord of the sign in which Moon is --- and lord of the > Lagna--- will be the same ------ > > > Best regards, > > tw > > > > > > , " Kanakkumar Bosmia " > <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi, Yes, I got an idea, from the view point of ultra sound test for child's sex only mother can be taken. Best regards, tw , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi, > > It's K Baskaran's view referring to some kind of practical scientific > test like DNA which has a logical reasoning for food for thought. > > > Best regards, > > tw > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> > wrote: > > Dear tw853, > > The father's horoscope can be taken,provided one > is certain that the person whose horoscope you are analysing,is the > true father,and that he has impregnated the mother,which fact, only > the mother knows for sure, and can vouch for...Isn't it ? > > That is the only reason why the mother's chart is > more logical...and rational to consider,in case of child-birth... > > Personally I feel that there is no need to > stretch this point to this extent,unless the father is considered so > very important,( male chavinism at work ?,) but truly speaking > scientifically the male " officially married to " ,and hence called the > husband,and assumed to be the father of the child of the woman " he > married " ,need not necessarily be the father of the child...only the > woman > > can vouch for paternity...! > > And that,dear tw, is an incontrovertible > scientific fact ! > > With best wishes, > > lyrastro1 > > > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > Dear Kanakkumar Bosmia, > > > > > > 1. Some interesting points in K Baskaran's book among others, > > importance of Moon, correctness of KPA, Raichur Emphem, dogmatic > > approach, decisive role of father's horoscope in deciding the sex > of > > child because the male sperms determines the sex of child. > > > > 2. Perhaps it's Rectification of Birth Time, KP Reader III, p > > 317-329, to refer KP Reader. In p 325, inter-link of the time of > > birth and --- the moment of query are understandable from a horary > > horoscope erected according to Varaha Mihira's Brihat Jataka --- no > > second opinion, lord of the sign in which Moon is --- and lord of > the > > Lagna--- will be the same ------ > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Kanakkumar Bosmia " > > <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Dear tw853, Truly,I admire your "stick-to-it-iveness", we are discussing the use of astrological prognosis,precisely to avoid the need for all these expensive tests modern-day-tests... ? ! With best wishes, lyrastro1tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,Yes, I got an idea, from the view point of ultra sound test for child's sex only mother can be taken. Best regards,tw , "tw853" <tw853> wrote:> > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,> > It's K Baskaran's view referring to some kind of practical scientific > test like DNA which has a logical reasoning for food for thought.> > > Best regards,> > tw> > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> > wrote:> > Dear tw853,> > The father's horoscope can be taken,provided one > is certain that the person whose horoscope you are analysing,is the > true father,and that he has impregnated the mother,which fact, only > the mother knows for sure, and can vouch for...Isn't it ?> > That is the only reason why the mother's chart is > more logical...and rational to consider,in case of child-birth...> > Personally I feel that there is no need to > stretch this point to this extent,unless the father is considered so > very important,( male chavinism at work ?,) but truly speaking > scientifically the male "officially married to",and hence called the > husband,and assumed to be the father of the child of the woman "he > married",need not necessarily be the father of the child...only the > woman> > can vouch for paternity...! > > And that,dear tw, is an incontrovertible > scientific fact !> > With best wishes,> > lyrastro1> > > > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote:> > > > Dear Kanakkumar Bosmia,> > > > > > 1. Some interesting points in K Baskaran's book among others, > > importance of Moon, correctness of KPA, Raichur Emphem, dogmatic > > approach, decisive role of father's horoscope in deciding the sex > of > > child because the male sperms determines the sex of child. > > > > 2. Perhaps it's Rectification of Birth Time, KP Reader III, p > > 317-329, to refer KP Reader. In p 325, inter-link of the time of > > birth and --- the moment of query are understandable from a horary > > horoscope erected according to Varaha Mihira's Brihat Jataka --- no > > second opinion, lord of the sign in which Moon is --- and lord of > the > > Lagna--- will be the same ------> > > > > > Best regards,> > > > tw> > > > > > > > > > > > , "Kanakkumar Bosmia" > > <kanbosastro@h...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Dear Mr Rao Since the MOON,s Star Lord remains the same, in one day, while the sub of Asc changes very rapidly, we can get many solutions to the Rule ASC Sub must be same as MOON Star. One cannot accept such a rule,blindly. Comments of other members are invited.Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Mr.Raichur, The Moon star may remain the same,as you point out,but,the sub-lord of the Ascendant keeps changing very rapidly... This is the rule to examine whether a given chart is correct or not,as given in Astrosecrets and K.P., by K.Subramaniam,p.237. With highest regards, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! Dear Friends Will someone enlighten me on the RULE "the sub-lord of the Asc must be the Star Lord of the MOON. " The Moon remains in one Nakstra for nearly 2 days. Thus the Moons star lord does not change in these 2 days. According to the RULE, all births in this two day period should have the SAME SUB. This is not at all logical. I for one do not use this rule. good luck Ravinder Grover <astrology wrote: Dear all Help required to Rectify TOB, as follows: Date of Query: 5th October 2004, 18:32:23 hours, NZDST, Auckland, New Zealand Query: Rectify TOB if required? Date of Birth: 8th Oct 1958, Recorded time of Birth : 00:01 am, Place: New Delhi , India This gives Lagna as Gemini 28deg 21 min 36 sec ruled by Merc, Jup, Ven, Merc and Mon at Cancer 11 deg 35 min 7 sec, ruled by Mon, Sat, Mon, Sat To rectify TOB, as per rule, Sub Lord Cusp(1) should be same as Moon's Star Lord Here Sub Lord Cusp(1) = VENUS and Star Lord of Moon is SAT To get SLC(1) = Sat, Lagna should be moved to either at Gemini 21-46-40 to 23-53-20 è that is, Rectified TOB should be 23.46 hours on 7th October 1958 OR Cancer 3-20-00 to 5-26-40 è that is, Rectified TOB should be 11:25 hours Question is : Which is the right TOB? Love Ravinder GRover --------- A.R.Raichur bombayanant_1608 raichuranant USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLYtel: 022-2506 2609 --------- Meet the all-new My – Try it today! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. --------- A.R.Raichur bombayanant_1608 raichuranant USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLYtel: 022-2506 2609 --------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 Dear Raichur ji, i am not agree with this rule. "This is the rule to examine whether a given chart is correct or not,as given in Astrosecrets and K.P., by K.Subramaniam,p.237."how many examples given? 1-2-100 ???? pls read Secrets of R.P. & Birth Time by; K Bhaskaran. as faras i remember i am sending you this book(zerox copy). pls coment on this book. regards kanak bosmia >anant raichur <anant_1608 > > >Re: RECTIFICATION OF TIME OF BIRTH >Sun, 5 Dec 2004 23:23:14 -0800 (PST) > >Dear Mr Rao > >Since the MOON,s Star Lord remains the same, in one day, while the sub of Asc changes very rapidly, we can get many solutions to the Rule ASC Sub must be same as MOON Star. > >One cannot accept such a rule,blindly. Comments of other members are invited. > >Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: >Dear Mr.Raichur, > The Moon star may remain the same,as you point out,but,the sub-lord of the Ascendant keeps changing very rapidly... > This is the rule to examine whether a given chart is correct or not,as given in Astrosecrets and K.P., by K.Subramaniam,p.237. > With highest regards, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > >Dear Friends > >Will someone enlighten me on the RULE "the sub-lord of the Asc must be the Star Lord of the MOON. " > >The Moon remains in one Nakstra for nearly 2 days. Thus the Moons star lord does not change in these 2 days. According to the RULE, all births in this two day period should have the SAME SUB. This is not at all logical. I for one do not use this rule. > >good luck > > >Ravinder Grover <astrology wrote: >Dear all > >Help required to Rectify TOB, as follows: > > > >Date of Query: 5th October 2004, 18:32:23 hours, NZDST, Auckland, New Zealand > >Query: Rectify TOB if required? > >Date of Birth: 8th Oct 1958, Recorded time of Birth : 00:01 am, Place: New Delhi , India > >This gives Lagna as Gemini 28deg 21 min 36 sec ruled by Merc, Jup, Ven, Merc > >and Mon at Cancer 11 deg 35 min 7 sec, ruled by Mon, Sat, Mon, Sat > >To rectify TOB, as per rule, Sub Lord Cusp(1) should be same as Moon's Star Lord > >Here Sub Lord Cusp(1) = VENUS and Star Lord of Moon is SAT > >To get SLC(1) = Sat, Lagna should be moved to > > either at Gemini 21-46-40 to 23-53-20 è that is, Rectified TOB should be 23.46 hours on 7th October 1958 > OR Cancer 3-20-00 to 5-26-40 è that is, Rectified TOB should be 11:25 hours > >Question is : Which is the right TOB? > >Love > > > >Ravinder GRover > > > > > > >--------- >A.R.Raichur bombay >anant_1608 >raichuranant >USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY >tel: 022-2506 2609 >--------- > > > > > > > > > > >Meet the all-new My – Try it today! > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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