Determining Male or Female Child using KP System

December 1, 2004

Dear Ajay and

tw,

Thank you both for

your input, and for the additional information on determining the sex of a

child…The more we learn, the more questions we have – leading to

more investigative research. What I AM certain of is that I have found nothing

to date that works all of the time. Oh – if life were that simple…J

All the Best,

Sandy

Crowther

http://www.jupitersweb.com

“AND THE RULE

SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD

BE

IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND

AQUARIES,

AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE

STRONG

SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF

11TH

HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

HOUSES.

THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE

STRONG

SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE

WILL

HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR

FEMALE.”

WHEN ANY COUPLE ENQUIRES, WHETHER THEY WILL HAVE A

MALE OR FEMALE CHILD, THEN THE HOROSCOPE OF LADY

AND

ALSO HER HUSBAND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND THE

RULE

SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD

BE

IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND

AQUARIES,

AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE

STRONG

SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF

11TH

HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

HOUSES.

THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE

STRONG

SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE

WILL

HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR

FEMALE.

WITH REGARDS TO ALL

AJAY PANDAV

Dear Sandy Crowther,

As regards

child's sex, it's said in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 221 that a

general rule

not yet found, and in p 213-214 Beejam for boy and

Kshetram for

girl mentioned. In Astrosecrets I, 2003, p 292 and

Astrosecrets

III, 2002, p 84, it's suggested to analyze 5th cusp,

stlord,

sublord, stlord of sublord, their location in rasi, female/

male rasi,

aspect, conjunction, Rahu/Ketu connections etc.

Best

regards,

tw

December 1, 2004

Deary Sandy,

Allow me to quote from a research article by a prominent and quite senior practitioner of K.P., Mr.A.Balasekar...(ref. K.P. & Astrology Annual,2000,Pp 39-41.).

If the sublord of the Vth cusp or it's star lord,is posited in the Sun's Hora, it is a male child...and vice-versa...etc...

Sun's hora,and Moon's hora :

a) In odd signs,the first 15 degrees is the Sun's Hora,the next 15 deg. is called the Moon's Hora...

b) In the same way,in even signs the first 15 deg. is called the Moon's hora and the next ,the Sun's hora...

In my personal experience I have found this to be very accurate indeed...I suggest,Sandy,you also experiment with this theory,and do let me know...

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !

Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote:

Dear Ajay and tw,

Thank you both for your input, and for the additional information on determining the sex of a child…The more we learn, the more questions we have – leading to more investigative research. What I AM certain of is that I have found nothing to date that works all of the time. Oh – if life were that simple…J

All the Best,

Sandy Crowther

http://www.jupitersweb.com

“AND THE RULESAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BEIN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONGSIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGINGHOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11THHOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5,

11HOUSES.THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONGSIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILLHAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE.”

WHEN ANY COUPLE ENQUIRES, WHETHER THEY WILL HAVE AMALE OR FEMALE CHILD, THEN THE HOROSCOPE OF LADY ANDALSO HER HUSBAND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND THE RULESAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BEIN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONGSIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGINGHOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF

11THHOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11HOUSES.THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONGSIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILLHAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE.

WITH REGARDS TO ALLAJAY PANDAV

Dear Sandy Crowther,As regards child's sex, it's said in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 221 that a general rule not yet found, and in p 213-214 Beejam for boy and Kshetram for girl mentioned. In Astrosecrets I, 2003, p 292 and Astrosecrets III, 2002, p 84, it's suggested to analyze 5th cusp, stlord, sublord, stlord of sublord, their location

in rasi, female/ male rasi, aspect, conjunction, Rahu/Ketu connections etc. Best regards,tw

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Yogesh,

Please see question ** ............... **

Ron Gaunt

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:41:58 +0000, you wrote:

>Deary Sandy,

> Allow me to quote from a research article by a prominent and

quite senior practitioner of K.P., Mr.A.Balasekar...(ref. K.P. & Astrology

Annual,2000,Pp 39-41.).

> If the sublord of the Vth cusp or it's star lord,is posited

in the Sun's Hora, it is a male child...and vice-versa...etc...

** does this mean the star lord of the Vth cusp, or the starlord

of the planet acting as sublord? **

** also is this specific to a woman's chart only? **

>

> Sun's hora,and Moon's hora :

> a) In odd signs,the first 15 degrees is the Sun's

Hora,the next 15 deg. is called the Moon's Hora...

> b) In the same way,in even signs the first 15 deg. is

called the Moon's hora and the next ,the Sun's hora...

> In my personal experience I have found this to be very

accurate indeed...I suggest,Sandy,you also experiment with this theory,and do

let me know...

> Yours sincerely,

> lyrastro1

> GOOD LUCK !

>

>Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote:

>

>Dear Ajay and tw,

>

>Thank you both for your input, and for the additional information on

determining the sex of a child…The more we learn, the more questions we have –

leading to more investigative research. What I AM certain of is that I have

found nothing to date that works all of the time. Oh – if life were that

simple…J

>

> All the Best,

>

> Sandy Crowther

>

> http://www.jupitersweb.com

>

>“AND THE RULE

>SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE

>IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,

>AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

>SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG

>SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

>HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH

>HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

>HOUSES.

>THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG

>SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL

>HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE.”

>

>WHEN ANY COUPLE ENQUIRES, WHETHER THEY WILL HAVE A

>MALE OR FEMALE CHILD, THEN THE HOROSCOPE OF LADY AND

>ALSO HER HUSBAND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND THE RULE

>SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE

>IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,

>AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

>SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG

>SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

>HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH

>HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

>HOUSES.

>THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG

>SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL

>HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE.

>

>WITH REGARDS TO ALL

>

>AJAY PANDAV

>

> Dear Sandy Crowther,

>

>As regards child's sex, it's said in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 221 that a

>general rule not yet found, and in p 213-214 Beejam for boy and

>Kshetram for girl mentioned. In Astrosecrets I, 2003, p 292 and

>Astrosecrets III, 2002, p 84, it's suggested to analyze 5th cusp,

>stlord, sublord, stlord of sublord, their location in rasi, female/

>male rasi, aspect, conjunction, Rahu/Ketu connections etc.

>

>Best regards,

>

>tw

>

December 1, 2004

Hi members,

I have a chart (male) where both 5th & 11th Cusp sublord is Venus and Venus is

in Rahu Star. Both Venus and Rahu are in Sun hora. But this person has 2

daughters !!

DOB : 10- 7-1955

POB : 12ø45'N 75ø 1'E

TOB : 19:30HRS (IST)

By the way, how to find the sex of the child from D7?

Regards,

Upadhyaya

rongaunt [rongaunt]

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:39 AM

Re: Determining Male or Female Child using KP

System

Yogesh,

Please see question ** ............... **

Ron Gaunt

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:41:58 +0000, you wrote:

>Deary Sandy,

> Allow me to quote from a research article by a prominent and

quite senior practitioner of K.P., Mr.A.Balasekar...(ref. K.P. & Astrology

Annual,2000,Pp 39-41.).

> If the sublord of the Vth cusp or it's star lord,is posited

in the Sun's Hora, it is a male child...and vice-versa...etc...

** does this mean the star lord of the Vth cusp, or the starlord

of the planet acting as sublord? **

** also is this specific to a woman's chart only? **

>

> Sun's hora,and Moon's hora :

> a) In odd signs,the first 15 degrees is the Sun's

Hora,the next 15 deg. is called the Moon's Hora...

> b) In the same way,in even signs the first 15 deg. is

called the Moon's hora and the next ,the Sun's hora...

> In my personal experience I have found this to be very

accurate indeed...I suggest,Sandy,you also experiment with this theory,and do

let me know...

> Yours sincerely,

> lyrastro1

> GOOD LUCK !

>

>Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote:

>

>Dear Ajay and tw,

>

>Thank you both for your input, and for the additional information on

determining the sex of a child...The more we learn, the more questions we have -

leading to more investigative research. What I AM certain of is that I have

found nothing to date that works all of the time. Oh - if life were that

simple...J

>

> All the Best,

>

> Sandy Crowther

>

> http://www.jupitersweb.com

>

> " AND THE RULE

>SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE

>IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,

>AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

>SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG

>SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

>HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH

>HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

>HOUSES.

>THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG

>SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL

>HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE. "

>

>WHEN ANY COUPLE ENQUIRES, WHETHER THEY WILL HAVE A

>MALE OR FEMALE CHILD, THEN THE HOROSCOPE OF LADY AND

>ALSO HER HUSBAND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND THE RULE

>SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE

>IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,

>AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

>SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG

>SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

>HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH

>HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

>HOUSES.

>THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG

>SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL

>HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE.

>

>WITH REGARDS TO ALL

>

>AJAY PANDAV

>

> Dear Sandy Crowther,

>

>As regards child's sex, it's said in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 221 that a

>general rule not yet found, and in p 213-214 Beejam for boy and

>Kshetram for girl mentioned. In Astrosecrets I, 2003, p 292 and

>Astrosecrets III, 2002, p 84, it's suggested to analyze 5th cusp,

>stlord, sublord, stlord of sublord, their location in rasi, female/

>male rasi, aspect, conjunction, Rahu/Ketu connections etc.

>

>Best regards,

>

>tw

>

December 1, 2004

Dear Ron,

This is in reply to a few more similar queries also...

a) If you are analysing a female's chart take the Vth cusp for analysis,if it is the father's chart,take the XIth cusp for analysis,as rightly suggested by Shri Raichur...

b) The starlord of the sub...Ron.

With best wishes,

lyrastro1

rongaunt <rongaunt wrote:

Yogesh,Please see question ** ............... **Ron GauntOn Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:41:58 +0000, you wrote:>Deary Sandy,> Allow me to quote from a research article by a prominent and quite senior practitioner of K.P., Mr.A.Balasekar...(ref. K.P. & Astrology Annual,2000,Pp 39-41.).> If the sublord of the Vth cusp or it's star lord,is posited in the Sun's Hora, it is a male child...and vice-versa...etc...** does this mean the star lord of the Vth cusp, or the starlord of the planet acting as sublord? **** also is this specific to a woman's chart only? **>

> Sun's hora,and Moon's hora :> a) In odd signs,the first 15 degrees is the Sun's Hora,the next 15 deg. is called the Moon's Hora... > b) In the same way,in even signs the first 15 deg. is called the Moon's hora and the next ,the Sun's hora...> In my personal experience I have found this to be very accurate indeed...I suggest,Sandy,you also experiment with this theory,and do let me

know...> Yours sincerely,> lyrastro1> GOOD LUCK !> > >>Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote:>>Dear Ajay and tw,>> >>Thank you both for your input, and for the additional information on determining the sex of a child…The more we learn, the more questions we

have – leading to more investigative research. What I AM certain of is that I have found nothing to date that works all of the time. Oh – if life were that simple…J>> >> All the Best,>> Sandy Crowther>> http://www.jupitersweb.com>> >> >>“AND THE RULE>SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE>IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,>AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,>SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG>SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING>HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH>HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11>HOUSES.>THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD

RELATE TO THESE STRONG>SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL>HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE.”>> >> >> >>WHEN ANY COUPLE ENQUIRES, WHETHER THEY WILL HAVE A>MALE OR FEMALE CHILD, THEN THE HOROSCOPE OF LADY AND>ALSO HER HUSBAND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND THE RULE>SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE>IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,>AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,>SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG>SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING>HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH>HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11>HOUSES.>THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG>SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL>HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE.>>

>>WITH REGARDS TO ALL>>AJAY PANDAV>> >> Dear Sandy Crowther,>>As regards child's sex, it's said in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 221 that a >general rule not yet found, and in p 213-214 Beejam for boy and >Kshetram for girl mentioned. In Astrosecrets I, 2003, p 292 and >Astrosecrets III, 2002, p 84, it's suggested to analyze 5th cusp, >stlord, sublord, stlord of sublord, their location in rasi, female/ >male rasi, aspect, conjunction, Rahu/Ketu connections etc. >>>Best regards,>>tw>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >>>>

December 1, 2004

Dear Srinivasa,

When applying K.P. rules,one must first ensure that the chart is correct...

Check whether the sublord of the Ascendant "tells" the birth-star...if it is so,then alone,the chart is correct...else it needs to be suitably corrected using K.P.Ayanamsa alone.(ref : Astrosecrets and K.P.,by Mr.K.Subramaniam).

With best wishes,

lyrastro1.

GOOD LUCK !

"Upadhyaya, Srinivasa" <srinivasa.upadyaya wrote:

Hi members,I have a chart (male) where both 5th & 11th Cusp sublord is Venus and Venus is in Rahu Star. Both Venus and Rahu are in Sun hora. But this person has 2 daughters !!DOB : 10- 7-1955POB : 12ø45'N 75ø 1'E TOB : 19:30HRS (IST)By the way, how to find the sex of the child from D7?Regards,Upadhyayarongaunt [rongaunt]Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Determining Male or Female Child using KPSystemYogesh,Please see question ** ............... **Ron GauntOn Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:41:58 +0000, you wrote:>Deary Sandy,>

Allow me to quote from a research article by a prominent and quite senior practitioner of K.P., Mr.A.Balasekar...(ref. K.P. & Astrology Annual,2000,Pp 39-41.).> If the sublord of the Vth cusp or it's star lord,is posited in the Sun's Hora, it is a male child...and vice-versa...etc...** does this mean the star lord of the Vth cusp, or the starlord of the planet acting as sublord? **** also is this specific to a woman's chart only? **> > Sun's hora,and Moon's hora :> a) In odd signs,the first 15 degrees is the Sun's Hora,the next 15 deg. is called the

Moon's Hora... > b) In the same way,in even signs the first 15 deg. is called the Moon's hora and the next ,the Sun's hora...> In my personal experience I have found this to be very accurate indeed...I suggest,Sandy,you also experiment with this theory,and do let me know...> Yours sincerely,>

lyrastro1> GOOD LUCK !> > >>Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote:>>Dear Ajay and tw,>> >>Thank you both for your input, and for the additional information on determining the sex of a child...The more we learn, the more questions we have - leading to more investigative research. What I AM certain of is that I have found nothing to date that works all of the time. Oh - if life were that simple...J>>

>> All the Best,>> Sandy Crowther>> http://www.jupitersweb.com>> >> >>"AND THE RULE>SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE>IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,>AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,>SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG>SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING>HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH>HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11>HOUSES.>THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG>SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL>HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE.">> >>

>> >>WHEN ANY COUPLE ENQUIRES, WHETHER THEY WILL HAVE A>MALE OR FEMALE CHILD, THEN THE HOROSCOPE OF LADY AND>ALSO HER HUSBAND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND THE RULE>SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE>IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,>AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,>SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG>SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING>HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH>HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11>HOUSES.>THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG>SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL>HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE.>> >>WITH REGARDS TO ALL>>AJAY PANDAV>> >> Dear Sandy Crowther,>>As regards child's sex, it's said in

KP Reader IV, 1984, p 221 that a >general rule not yet found, and in p 213-214 Beejam for boy and >Kshetram for girl mentioned. In Astrosecrets I, 2003, p 292 and >Astrosecrets III, 2002, p 84, it's suggested to analyze 5th cusp, >stlord, sublord, stlord of sublord, their location in rasi, female/ >male rasi, aspect, conjunction, Rahu/Ketu connections etc. >>>Best regards,>>tw>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >>>>

December 1, 2004

Hi Yogesh,

Thanks for the response. I have made sure that Asc sublord is the birth star

lord before posting. Please throw some light on this issue.

Regards,

Upadhyaya

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SUKR 9MAR2027 SUK 9JUL10 SUR 9JUL11 CHA 9MAR13 KUJ 9MAY14 RAH 9MAY17

GUR 9JAN20 SAN 9MAR23 BUD 9JAN26 KET 9MAR27

SURY 9MAR2033 SUR 27JUN27 CHA 27DEC27 KUJ 3MAY28 RAH 27MAR29 GUR 15JAN30

SAN 27DEC30 BUD 3NOV31 KET 9MAR32 SUK 9MAR33

CHAN 9MAR2043 CHA 9JAN34 KUJ 9AUG34 RAH 9FEB36 GUR 9JUN37 SAN 9JAN39

BUD 9JUN40 KET 9JAN41 SUK 9SEP42 SUR 9MAR43

KUJA 9MAR2050 KUJ 6AUG43 RAH 24AUG44 GUR 1AUG45 SAN 9SEP46 BUD 6SEP47

KET 3FEB48 SUK 3APR49 SUR 9AUG49 CHA 9MAR50

BAVA MIDDLE START BAVA BAVA MIDDLE START BAVA BAVA MIDDLE START BAVA

DEG:MN DEG:MN LORD DEG:MN DEG:MN LORD DEG:MN DEG:MN LORD

1 289: 7 272:37 SANI 2 322:47 305:37 SANI 3 355:54 339:56 GURU

4 25:56 11:52 KUJA 5 52:57 39:59 SUKR 6 79:16 65:55 BUDH

7 109: 7 92:37 CHAN 8 142:47 125:37 SURY 9 175:54 159:56 BUDH

10 205:56 191:52 SUKR 11 232:57 219:59 KUJA 12 259:16 245:55 GURU

HOROSCOPE OF CHANDRASHEKAR RAO (PACKAGE VER 6:8/98)27:10:2004 PAGE:2

+--------+--------+--------+--------+

| | | | |

+--------+--------+--------+--------+

|CHA GUL | |KUJ GUR |

| | |URA PLU |

+--------+ B H A V A +--------+

|LAG | |FOR |

| | | |

+--------+--------+--------+--------+

| |RAH |SAN |NEP |

| | | | |

+--------+--------+--------+--------+

VARGAS: RASI HORA DREKAN SAPTMSA NAVAMSA DWADASA THRIMSA DASAMSA

******* -------------------------------

SURY MITHUNA CHANDRA KUMBHA VRICHIK RISHABA MEENA BUDHA KUMBHA

CHAN KUMBHA CHANDRA THULA SIMHA RISHABA DHANUS SUKRA THULA

KUJA KATAKA CHANDRA KATAKA KUMBHA SIMHA KANYA BUDHA RISHABA

BUDH MITHUNA SURYA MITHUNA MITHUNA VRICHIK KATAKA KUJA KATAKA

GURU KATAKA CHANDRA VRICHIK MEENA THULA DHANUS GURU KATAKA

SUKR MITHUNA SURYA THULA SIMHA MAKARA THULA GURU KANYA

SANI THULA CHANDRA MITHUNA KUMBHA MESHA MITHUNA BUDHA RISHABA

RAHU DHANUS SURYA DHANUS DHANUS MESHA DHANUS KUJA DHANUS

KETU MITHUNA SURYA MITHUNA MITHUNA THULA MITHUNA KUJA MITHUNA

LAGN MAKARA CHANDRA MAKARA KATAKA MAKARA KUMBHA SUKRA KANYA

*** ASHTAGA VARGA *** * PINDAS *

MESH RISH MITH KATA SIMH KANY THUL VRCH DHAN MAKR KUMB MEEN RAS GRH SOD

SURY 6/2 5/1 *3/0 4/0 3/0 1/0 4/1 6/2 5/1 3/2 3/0 5/1 78 5 83

CHAN 6/0 2/0 3/0 2/0 6/0 3/1 4/1 4/2 6/0 3/0 *4/1 6/4 87 10 97

KUJA 7/2 4/0 3/2 *3/1 4/2 0/0 5/4 4/2 2/0 4/4 1/0 2/0 118 72 190

BUDH 6/2 6/1 *5/0 4/1 5/3 2/0 6/1 5/2 2/0 4/1 6/1 3/0 97 28 125

GURU 6/3 3/0 4/0 *6/3 4/1 5/2 6/2 3/0 3/0 4/0 7/3 5/2 124 79 203

SUKR 6/2 6/2 *4/1 2/0 4/1 4/0 3/0 4/2 3/0 5/0 6/3 5/3 137 32 169

SANI 6/3 4/2 4/3 2/0 1/0 2/0 *1/0 5/3 5/2 3/0 2/1 4/2 142 56 198

SARV 4314 30 6 26 6 23 5 27 7 17 3 29 9 3113 26 3 26 7 29 9 3012

SHADBALA-RUPAS:MALEFIC MOON & BENEFIC MERCURY

------------

STHAN DIK CHEST NYSAR KALA DHRIS SHADBAL REL.STR ISHTA KASHT NET

SURY 2.15 .32 .00 1.00 3.80 -.25 7.02 1.40 .73 -.20 .53

CHAN 2.57 .67 .00 .86 4.14 -.11 8.12 1.35 .64 -.36 .29

KUJA 2.87 .39 .09 .29 2.19 -.17 5.65 1.13 .10 -.90 -.79

BUDH 3.09 .25 .62 .43 2.27 -.33 6.34 .91 .52 -.46 .06

GURU 4.21 .04 .11 .57 3.66 -.11 8.48 1.30 .32 -.19 .13

SUKR 2.66 .76 .15 .71 1.75 -.31 5.72 1.04 .30 -.59 -.28

SANI 3.65 .49 .66 .14 2.03 -.19 6.79 1.36 .81 -.05 .76

BHAVA BALA:

BHAVA 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

DIKBALA .50 .83 .83 .00 .17 .17 .50 .67 .33 .50 .33 .67

ADIPATI 6.79 6.79 8.48 5.65 5.72 6.34 8.12 7.02 6.34 5.72 5.65 8.48

DHRSHTI .95 .64 .80 -.19 -.36 -.27 .05 .46 .67 .37 1.45 .94

TOTAL 8.23 8.26 10.11 5.46 5.53 6.24 8.67 8.15 7.35 6.59 7.43 10.08

Planet Significations :

--

Planet Lords Significations

Sign-Star-Sub Star General

--

Sur Bud-Gur-Bud 7, 3, 12, 6, 8,

Cha San-Gur-Ket 7, 3, 12, 2, 7,

Kuj Cha-San-Bud 10, 1, 2, 7, 4, 11,

Bud Bud-Kuj-Suk 7, 4, 11, 5, 6, 9,

Gur Cha-San-Kuj 10, 1, 2, 7, 3, 12,

Suk Bud-Rah-Gur 11, 6, 5, 10,

San Suk-Gur-Gur 7, 3, 12, 10, 1, 2,

Rah Gur-Ket-Suk 5, 11,

Ket Bud-Kuj-Ket 7, 4, 11, 5,

--

House Significators :

--

Cusp Star-Sub Lord In Lord's Occupant In Occupant's

Constellation Constellation

--

1 Sur-Gur San Kuj Gur

--

2 Kuj-Cha San Kuj Gur Cha

--

3 San-Suk Gur Sur Cha San

--

4 Ket-Bud Kuj Ket Bud

--

5 Sur-Suk Suk Ket Rah

Bud

--

6 Kuj-Cha Bud Suk

Sur

--

7 Gur-Rah Cha Kuj Ket Bud

Gur Sur Cha San

--

8 Ket-Rah Sur

--

9 Sur-Suk Bud

--

10 Rah-San Suk San Kuj Gur

--

11 San-Suk Kuj Ket Bud Rah Suk

--

12 Ket-Rah Gur Sur Cha San

--

Yogesh Rao Lajmi [lyrastro1]

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 5:30 PM

RE: Determining Male or Female Child using KP System

Dear Srinivasa,

When applying K.P. rules,one must first ensure that the

chart is correct...

Check whether the sublord of the Ascendant " tells " the

birth-star...if it is so,then alone,the chart is correct...else it needs to be

suitably corrected using K.P.Ayanamsa alone.(ref : Astrosecrets and K.P.,by

Mr.K.Subramaniam).

With best wishes,

lyrastro1.

GOOD LUCK !

" Upadhyaya, Srinivasa " <srinivasa.upadyaya wrote:

Hi members,

I have a chart (male) where both 5th & 11th Cusp sublord is Venus and Venus is

in Rahu Star. Both Venus and Rahu are in Sun hora. But this person has 2

daughters !!

DOB : 10- 7-1955

POB : 12ø45'N 75ø 1'E

TOB : 19:30HRS (IST)

By the way, how to find the sex of the child from D7?

Regards,

Upadhyaya

rongaunt [rongaunt]

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:39 AM

Re: Determining Male or Female Child using KP

System

Yogesh,

Please see question ** ............... **

Ron Gaunt

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:41:58 +0000, you wrote:

>Deary Sandy,

> & n bsp; Allow me to quote from a research article by a

prominent and quite senior practitioner of K.P., Mr.A.Balasekar...(ref. K.P. &

Astrology Annual,2000,Pp 39-41.).

> If the sublord of the Vth cusp or it's star lord,is posited

in the Sun's Hora, it is a male child...and vice-versa...etc...

** does this mean the star lord of the Vth cusp, or the starlord

of the planet acting as sublord? **

** also is this specific to a woman's chart only? **

>

> Sun's hora,and Moon's hora :

> a) In odd signs,the first 15 degrees is the Sun's

Hora,the next 15 deg. is called the Moon's Hora...

> b) In the same way,in even signs the first 15 deg. is

called the Moon's hora and the next ,the Sun's hora...

> In my personal experience I have found this to be very

accurate indeed...I suggest,Sandy,you also experiment with this theory,and do

let me know...

> Yours sincerely,

> lyrastro1

> GOOD LUCK !

>

>Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote:

>

>Dear Ajay and tw,

>

>Thank you both for your input, and for the additional information on

determining the sex of a child...The more we learn, the more questions we have -

leading to more investigative research. What I AM certain of is that I have

found nothing to date that works all of the time. Oh - if life were that

simple...J

>

> All the Best,

>

> Sandy Crowther

>

> http://www.jupitersweb.com

>

> " AND THE RULE

>SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE

>IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,

>AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

>SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG

>SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

>HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH

>HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

>HOUSES.

>THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG

>SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL

>HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE. "

>

>WHEN ANY COUPLE ENQUIRES, WHETHER THEY WILL HAVE A

>MALE OR FEMALE CHILD, THEN THE HOROSCOPE OF LADY AND

>ALSO HER HUSBAND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND THE RULE

>SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE

>IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,

>AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

>SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG

>SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

>HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH

>HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

>HOUSES.

>THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG

>SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL

>HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE.

>

>WITH REGARDS TO ALL

>

>AJAY PANDAV

>

> Dear Sandy Crowther,

>

>As regards child's sex, it's said in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 221 that a

>general rule not yet found, and in p 213-214 Beejam for boy and

>Kshetram for girl mentioned. In Astrosecrets I, 2003, p 292 and

>Astrosecrets III, 2002, p 84, it's suggested to analyze 5th cusp,

>stlord, sublord, stlord of sublord, their location in rasi, female/

>male rasi, aspect, conjunction, Rahu/Ketu connections etc.

>

>Best regards,

>

>tw

>

December 1, 2004

Dear Srinivas,

BUT YOU HAVE NOT USED K. P. AYANAMSA...!

lyr@astro1"Upadhyaya, Srinivasa" <srinivasa.upadyaya wrote:

Hi Yogesh,Thanks for the response. I have made sure that Asc sublord is the birth star lord before posting. Please throw some light on this issue. Regards,UpadhyayaHOROSCOPE OF CHANDRASHEKAR RAO (PACKAGE VER 6:8/98)27:10:2004 PAGE:1DATE OF BIRTH: 10- 7-1955 SUNDAY TIME:19:30HRS( ) TIME ZONE: 5.50 HRS(MANMATHA AANI 26 SUNDAY NIGHT) PLACE:12ø45'N 75ø 1'E PUTTUR SIDR.TIME:14:10:56 AYANAMSA:23ø 8' 5" SUNRISE/SET: 6:13/18:56 ( )STAR:PURVBDRA FROM 8:13 PADA 2 THITHI:KRISHNA SASHTI FROM 16: 6 YOGA:SUABAGYA

FROM 1:23 KARANA:KARASA FROM 16: 6 , SIDHDHA YOGANIRAYANA LONGITUDES:-------------------PLANET DEG:MIN STAR PADA RULER PLANET DEG:MIN STAR PADA RULER SURY 84:24 PUNARVAS 2 GURU CHAN 326: 6 PURVBDRA 2 GURUKUJA 96:21 PUSHYAMI 1 SANI BUDH 63:27 MRIGSIRA 4 KUJAGURU 102:33 PUSHYAMI 3 SANI SUKR 70: 0 ARUDRA 2 RAHUSANI 201:24 VISAKHA 1 GURU

RAHU 242:11 MOOLA 1 KETUKETU 62:11 MRIGSIRA 3 KUJA LAGN 272:37 UTRASADA 2 SURYURAN 94: 9 PUSHYAMI 1 SANI NEPT 182:19 CHITRA 3 KUJAPLUT 122: 1 MAKHA 1 KETU GULI 330:10 PURVBDRA 4 GURUFORT 154:20 UTTARA 3 SURYPLANETS UNDER RETROGRESSION : SANI;+--------+--------+--------+--------+ +--------+--------+--------+--------+|GUL | | |SUR BUD

| | |SAN RAH |SUR CHA | || | | |SUK KET | | |PLU | | |+--------+--------+--------+--------+ +--------+--------+--------+--------+|CHA | |KUJ GUR | |FOR | |GUL ||

| |URA | | | | |+--------+ R A S I +--------+ +--------+ NAVAMSA +--------+|LAG | |PLU | |SUK LAG | |KUJ URA || | |

| | | | |+--------+--------+--------+--------+ +--------+--------+--------+--------+|RAH | |SAN NEP |FOR | | |BUD |GUR KET | || | | | | | | |NEP | |+--------+--------+--------+--------+

+--------+--------+--------+--------+GURU DASA REMAINING AT TIME OF BIRTH 8 YEARS 7 MONTHS 29 DAYSON 27-10-2004 KETU DASA GURU BUKTHI IS RUNNING(TILL 3- 2-2005)DASA ENDS ON BUKTHI ENDS BUKTHI ENDS BUKTHI ENDS BUKTHI ENDS BUKTHI ENDS--GURU 9MAR1964 KET 21JAN56 SUK 21SEP58 SUR 9JUL59 CHA 9NOV60 KUJ 15OCT61 RAH 9MAR64SANI 9MAR1983 SAN 12MAR67 BUD 21NOV69 KET 1JAN71 SUK 1MAR74 SUR 12FEB75 CHA 12SEP76 KUJ 21OCT77 RAH 27AUG80 GUR 9MAR83BUDH 9MAR2000 BUD 6AUG85

KET 3AUG86 SUK 3JUN89 SUR 9APR90 CHA 9SEP91 KUJ 6SEP92 RAH 24MAR95 GUR 1JUL97 SAN 9MAR 0KETU 9MAR2007 KET 6AUG 0 SUK 6OCT 1 SUR 12FEB 2 CHA 12SEP 2 KUJ 9FEB 3 RAH 27FEB 4 GUR 3FEB 5 SAN 12MAR 6 BUD 9MAR 7SUKR 9MAR2027 SUK 9JUL10 SUR 9JUL11 CHA 9MAR13 KUJ 9MAY14 RAH 9MAY17 GUR 9JAN20 SAN 9MAR23 BUD 9JAN26 KET 9MAR27SURY 9MAR2033 SUR 27JUN27 CHA 27DEC27 KUJ 3MAY28 RAH

27MAR29 GUR 15JAN30 SAN 27DEC30 BUD 3NOV31 KET 9MAR32 SUK 9MAR33CHAN 9MAR2043 CHA 9JAN34 KUJ 9AUG34 RAH 9FEB36 GUR 9JUN37 SAN 9JAN39 BUD 9JUN40 KET 9JAN41 SUK 9SEP42 SUR 9MAR43KUJA 9MAR2050 KUJ 6AUG43 RAH 24AUG44 GUR 1AUG45 SAN 9SEP46 BUD 6SEP47 KET 3FEB48 SUK 3APR49 SUR 9AUG49 CHA 9MAR50BAVA MIDDLE START BAVA BAVA MIDDLE START BAVA BAVA MIDDLE START BAVA

DEG:MN DEG:MN LORD DEG:MN DEG:MN LORD DEG:MN DEG:MN LORD 1 289: 7 272:37 SANI 2 322:47 305:37 SANI 3 355:54 339:56 GURU 4 25:56 11:52 KUJA 5 52:57 39:59 SUKR 6 79:16 65:55 BUDH 7 109: 7 92:37 CHAN 8 142:47 125:37 SURY 9 175:54 159:56 BUDH10 205:56 191:52 SUKR 11 232:57 219:59 KUJA 12 259:16 245:55 GURUHOROSCOPE OF CHANDRASHEKAR RAO (PACKAGE VER 6:8/98)27:10:2004

| | | | +--------+--------+--------+--------+ | |RAH |SAN |NEP | | | | |

| +--------+--------+--------+--------+ VARGAS: RASI HORA DREKAN SAPTMSA NAVAMSA DWADASA THRIMSA DASAMSA ******* ------------------------------- SURY MITHUNA CHANDRA KUMBHA VRICHIK RISHABA MEENA BUDHA KUMBHA CHAN KUMBHA CHANDRA THULA SIMHA RISHABA DHANUS SUKRA THULA KUJA KATAKA CHANDRA KATAKA KUMBHA SIMHA KANYA BUDHA RISHABA BUDH MITHUNA SURYA MITHUNA MITHUNA VRICHIK KATAKA KUJA KATAKA GURU KATAKA CHANDRA

VRICHIK MEENA THULA DHANUS GURU KATAKA SUKR MITHUNA SURYA THULA SIMHA MAKARA THULA GURU KANYA SANI THULA CHANDRA MITHUNA KUMBHA MESHA MITHUNA BUDHA RISHABA RAHU DHANUS SURYA DHANUS DHANUS MESHA DHANUS KUJA DHANUS KETU MITHUNA SURYA MITHUNA MITHUNA THULA MITHUNA KUJA MITHUNA LAGN MAKARA CHANDRA MAKARA KATAKA MAKARA KUMBHA SUKRA KANYA *** ASHTAGA VARGA

*** * PINDAS * MESH RISH MITH KATA SIMH KANY THUL VRCH DHAN MAKR KUMB MEEN RAS GRH SODSURY 6/2 5/1 *3/0 4/0 3/0 1/0 4/1 6/2 5/1 3/2 3/0 5/1 78 5 83CHAN 6/0 2/0 3/0 2/0 6/0 3/1 4/1 4/2 6/0 3/0 *4/1 6/4 87 10 97KUJA 7/2 4/0 3/2 *3/1 4/2 0/0 5/4 4/2 2/0 4/4 1/0 2/0 118 72 190BUDH 6/2 6/1 *5/0 4/1 5/3 2/0 6/1 5/2 2/0 4/1 6/1 3/0 97 28 125GURU 6/3 3/0 4/0 *6/3 4/1 5/2

6/2 3/0 3/0 4/0 7/3 5/2 124 79 203SUKR 6/2 6/2 *4/1 2/0 4/1 4/0 3/0 4/2 3/0 5/0 6/3 5/3 137 32 169SANI 6/3 4/2 4/3 2/0 1/0 2/0 *1/0 5/3 5/2 3/0 2/1 4/2 142 56 198SARV 4314 30 6 26 6 23 5 27 7 17 3 29 9 3113 26 3 26 7 29 9 3012SHADBALA-RUPAS:MALEFIC MOON & BENEFIC MERCURY------------ STHAN DIK CHEST NYSAR KALA DHRIS SHADBAL REL.STR ISHTA KASHT NETSURY 2.15 .32 .00 1.00 3.80 -.25 7.02 1.40 .73 -.20 .53CHAN 2.57 .67 .00

..86 4.14 -.11 8.12 1.35 .64 -.36 .29KUJA 2.87 .39 .09 .29 2.19 -.17 5.65 1.13 .10 -.90 -.79BUDH 3.09 .25 .62 .43 2.27 -.33 6.34 .91 .52 -.46 .06GURU 4.21 .04 .11 .57 3.66 -.11 8.48 1.30 .32 -.19 .13SUKR 2.66 .76 .15 .71 1.75 -.31 5.72 1.04 .30 -.59 -.28SANI 3.65 .49

..66 .14 2.03 -.19 6.79 1.36 .81 -.05 .76BHAVA BALA: BHAVA 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12DIKBALA .50 .83 .83 .00 .17 .17 .50 .67 .33 .50 .33 .67ADIPATI 6.79 6.79 8.48 5.65 5.72 6.34 8.12 7.02 6.34 5.72 5.65 8.48DHRSHTI .95 .64 .80 -.19 -.36 -.27 .05 .46 .67 .37 1.45

..94TOTAL 8.23 8.26 10.11 5.46 5.53 6.24 8.67 8.15 7.35 6.59 7.43 10.08Planet Significations :--Planet Lords Significations Sign-Star-Sub Star General --Sur Bud-Gur-Bud 7, 3, 12, 6, 8, Cha San-Gur-Ket 7, 3,

12, 2, 7, Kuj Cha-San-Bud 10, 1, 2, 7, 4, 11, Bud Bud-Kuj-Suk 7, 4, 11, 5, 6, 9, Gur Cha-San-Kuj 10, 1, 2, 7, 3, 12, Suk Bud-Rah-Gur 11, 6, 5, 10, San Suk-Gur-Gur 7, 3,

12, 10, 1, 2, Rah Gur-Ket-Suk 5, 11, Ket Bud-Kuj-Ket 7, 4, 11, 5, --House Significators :--Cusp Star-Sub Lord In Lord's Occupant In Occupant's

Constellation Constellation--1 Sur-Gur San Kuj Gur --2 Kuj-Cha San Kuj Gur Cha --3 San-Suk Gur Sur Cha San

--4 Ket-Bud Kuj Ket Bud --5 Sur-Suk Suk Ket Rah Bud

--6 Kuj-Cha Bud Suk Sur --7 Gur-Rah Cha Kuj Ket Bud

Gur Sur Cha San --8 Ket-Rah Sur --9 Sur-Suk Bud

--10 Rah-San Suk San Kuj Gur --11 San-Suk Kuj Ket Bud Rah Suk --12 Ket-Rah Gur Sur Cha San --

Yogesh Rao Lajmi [lyrastro1]Wednesday, December 01, 2004 5:30 PM Subject: RE: Determining Male or Female Child using KP SystemDear Srinivasa, When applying K.P. rules,one must first ensure that the chart is correct... Check whether the sublord of the Ascendant "tells" the birth-star...if it is so,then alone,the chart is correct...else it needs to be suitably corrected using K.P.Ayanamsa alone.(ref : Astrosecrets and K.P.,by Mr.K.Subramaniam). With best

wishes, lyrastro1. GOOD LUCK ! "Upadhyaya, Srinivasa" <srinivasa.upadyaya wrote:Hi members,I have a chart (male) where both 5th & 11th Cusp sublord is Venus and Venus is in Rahu Star. Both Venus and Rahu are in Sun hora. But this person has 2 daughters !!DOB : 10- 7-1955POB : 12ø45'N 75ø 1'E TOB : 19:30HRS (IST)By the way, how to find the sex of the child from D7?Regards,Upadhyayarongaunt

[rongaunt]Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Determining Male or Female Child using KPSystemYogesh,Please see question ** ............... **Ron GauntOn Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:41:58 +0000, you wrote:>Deary Sandy,> & n bsp; Allow me to quote from a research article by a prominent and quite senior practitioner of K.P., Mr.A.Balasekar...(ref. K.P. & Astrology Annual,2000,Pp 39-41.).> If the sublord of the Vth cusp or it's star lord,is posited in the Sun's Hora, it is a male child...and vice-versa...etc...** does this mean the star lord of the Vth cusp, or the starlord

of the planet acting as sublord? **** also is this specific to a woman's chart only? **> > Sun's hora,and Moon's hora :> a) In odd signs,the first 15 degrees is the Sun's Hora,the next 15 deg. is called the Moon's Hora... > b) In the same way,in even signs the first 15 deg. is called the Moon's hora and the next ,the Sun's hora...> In my personal experience I have found this to be very accurate indeed...I suggest,Sandy,you also experiment with

this theory,and do let me know...> Yours sincerely,> lyrastro1> GOOD LUCK !> > >>Sandy Crowther <sandy wrote:>>Dear Ajay and tw,>> >>Thank you both for your input, and for the additional information on determining the sex of a child...The more we

learn, the more questions we have - leading to more investigative research. What I AM certain of is that I have found nothing to date that works all of the time. Oh - if life were that simple...J>> >> All the Best,>> Sandy Crowther>> http://www.jupitersweb.com>> >> >>"AND THE RULE>SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE>IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,>AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,>SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG>SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING>HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH>HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11>HOUSES.>THE

PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG>SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL>HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE.">> >> >> >>WHEN ANY COUPLE ENQUIRES, WHETHER THEY WILL HAVE A>MALE OR FEMALE CHILD, THEN THE HOROSCOPE OF LADY AND>ALSO HER HUSBAND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND THE RULE>SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE>IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,>AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,>SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG>SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING>HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH>HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11>HOUSES.>THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG>SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL>HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE

OR FEMALE.>> >>WITH REGARDS TO ALL>>AJAY PANDAV>> >> Dear Sandy Crowther,>>As regards child's sex, it's said in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 221 that a >general rule not yet found, and in p 213-214 Beejam for boy and >Kshetram for girl mentioned. In Astrosecrets I, 2003, p 292 and >Astrosecrets III, 2002, p 84, it's suggested to analyze 5th cusp, >stlord, sublord, stlord of sublord, their location in rasi, female/ >male rasi, aspect, conjunction, Rahu/Ketu connections etc. >>>Best regards,>>tw>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>>> >>>>

December 1, 2004

Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,

>>Allow me to quote from a research article by a prominent >>and

quite senior practitioner of K.P., >>Mr.A.Balasekar...(ref. K.P. &

Astrology Annual,2000,Pp >>39-41.)

1. Is it for the first child only or any child? Because the cusp

taken for the second child is different from the first one in KP

Reader IV, 1984, p 241 " SECOND DELIVERY " .

>>>This is in reply to a few more similar queries also...

>> a) If you are analysing a female's chart take the Vth

cusp for analysis,if it is the father's chart,take the XIth cusp for

>>>analysis,as rightly suggested by Shri Raichur...

2. Is it to check " whether birth of children is promised or not " as

mentioned in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 211, 224, 227 & 230? Or something

new?

Best regards,

tw

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

wrote:

> Dear Ron,

> This is in reply to a few more similar queries also...

> a) If you are analysing a female's chart take the

Vth cusp for analysis,if it is the father's chart,take the XIth cusp

for analysis,as rightly suggested by Shri Raichur...

> b) The starlord of the sub...Ron.

> With best wishes,

> lyrastro1

>

> rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>

> Yogesh,

>

> Please see question ** ............... **

>

> Ron Gaunt

>

> On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:41:58 +0000, you wrote:

>

> >Deary Sandy,

> > Allow me to quote from a research article by a

prominent and quite senior practitioner of K.P., Mr.A.Balasekar...

(ref. K.P. & Astrology Annual,2000,Pp 39-41.).

> > If the sublord of the Vth cusp or it's star

lord,is posited in the Sun's Hora, it is a male child...and vice-

versa...etc...

>

> ** does this mean the star lord of the Vth cusp, or the starlord

> of the planet acting as sublord? **

>

> ** also is this specific to a woman's chart only? **

> >

> > Sun's hora,and Moon's hora :

> > a) In odd signs,the first 15 degrees is

the Sun's Hora,the next 15 deg. is called the Moon's Hora...

> > b) In the same way,in even signs the first

15 deg. is called the Moon's hora and the next ,the Sun's hora...

> > In my personal experience I have found this to

be very accurate indeed...I suggest,Sandy,you also experiment with

this theory,and do let me know...

> > Yours sincerely,

> > lyrastro1

> > GOOD LUCK !

> >

> >Sandy Crowther <sandy@t...> wrote:

> >

> >Dear Ajay and tw,

> >

> >Thank you both for your input, and for the additional information

on determining the sex of a child…The more we learn, the more

questions we have – leading to more investigative research. What I AM

certain of is that I have found nothing to date that works all of the

time. Oh – if life were that simple…J

> >

> > All the Best,

> >

> > Sandy Crowther

> >

> > http://www.jupitersweb.com

> >

> > " AND THE RULE

> >SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE

> >IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,

> >AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

> >SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG

> >SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

> >HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH

> >HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

> >HOUSES.

> >THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG

> >SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL

> >HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE. "

> >

> >WHEN ANY COUPLE ENQUIRES, WHETHER THEY WILL HAVE A

> >MALE OR FEMALE CHILD, THEN THE HOROSCOPE OF LADY AND

> >ALSO HER HUSBAND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND THE RULE

> >SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE

> >IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,

> >AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

> >SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG

> >SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

> >HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH

> >HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

> >HOUSES.

> >THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG

> >SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL

> >HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE.

> >

> >WITH REGARDS TO ALL

> >

> >AJAY PANDAV

> >

> > Dear Sandy Crowther,

> >

> >As regards child's sex, it's said in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 221

that a

> >general rule not yet found, and in p 213-214 Beejam for boy and

> >Kshetram for girl mentioned. In Astrosecrets I, 2003, p 292 and

> >Astrosecrets III, 2002, p 84, it's suggested to analyze 5th cusp,

> >stlord, sublord, stlord of sublord, their location in rasi,

female/

> >male rasi, aspect, conjunction, Rahu/Ketu connections etc.

> >

> >Best regards,

> >

> >tw

> >

December 1, 2004

Dear tw53,

Mr.Balasekar has not specified any thing about this in his article,naturally, I presume it to be for the first child,and as usual for the second child's sex the VIIth cusp is to be taken...and so on...my experiments were so far only in "first child cases"...

I have not had any opportunity so far,to experiment with this theory in second, third or fourth child-birth...I agree with you, it is important to know,and perhaps Mr.Balasekar should have mentioned it somewhere in his article,but he does not seem to have...!

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1tw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,>>Allow me to quote from a research article by a prominent >>and quite senior practitioner of K.P., >>Mr.A.Balasekar...(ref. K.P. & Astrology Annual,2000,Pp >>39-41.)1. Is it for the first child only or any child? Because the cusp taken for the second child is different from the first one in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 241 "SECOND DELIVERY".>>>This is in reply to a few more similar queries also...>> a) If you are analysing a female's chart take the Vth cusp for analysis,if it is the father's chart,take the XIth cusp for >>>analysis,as rightly suggested by Shri Raichur...2. Is it to check "whether birth of children is promised or not" as mentioned in KP Reader IV,

1984, p 211, 224, 227 & 230? Or something new?Best regards,tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:> Dear Ron,> This is in reply to a few more similar queries also...> a) If you are analysing a female's chart take the Vth cusp for analysis,if it is the father's chart,take the XIth cusp for analysis,as rightly suggested by Shri Raichur...> b) The starlord of the sub...Ron.> With best wishes,>

lyrastro1> > > rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:> > Yogesh,> > Please see question ** ............... **> > Ron Gaunt> > > On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:41:58 +0000, you wrote:> > >Deary Sandy,> > Allow me to quote from a research article by a prominent and quite senior practitioner of K.P., Mr.A.Balasekar...(ref. K.P. & Astrology Annual,2000,Pp 39-41.).>

> If the sublord of the Vth cusp or it's star lord,is posited in the Sun's Hora, it is a male child...and vice-versa...etc...> > ** does this mean the star lord of the Vth cusp, or the starlord > of the planet acting as sublord? **> > ** also is this specific to a woman's chart only? **> > > > Sun's hora,and Moon's hora :> > a) In odd signs,the first 15 degrees is the Sun's Hora,the next 15 deg. is called the Moon's Hora... >

> b) In the same way,in even signs the first 15 deg. is called the Moon's hora and the next ,the Sun's hora...> > In my personal experience I have found this to be very accurate indeed...I suggest,Sandy,you also experiment with this theory,and do let me know...> > Yours sincerely,> > lyrastro1>

> GOOD LUCK !> > > > > >> >Sandy Crowther <sandy@t...> wrote:> >> >Dear Ajay and tw,> >> > > >> >Thank you both for your input, and for the additional information on determining the sex of a child…The more we learn, the more questions we have – leading to more investigative research. What I AM certain of is that I have found nothing to date that works all of the time. Oh – if life were that simple…J> >> > >

>> > All the Best,> >> > Sandy Crowther> >> > http://www.jupitersweb.com> >> > > >> > > >> >"AND THE RULE> >SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE> >IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,> >AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,> >SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG> >SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING> >HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH> >HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11> >HOUSES.> >THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG> >SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE

WILL> >HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE."> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >WHEN ANY COUPLE ENQUIRES, WHETHER THEY WILL HAVE A> >MALE OR FEMALE CHILD, THEN THE HOROSCOPE OF LADY AND> >ALSO HER HUSBAND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND THE RULE> >SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE> >IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,> >AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,> >SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG> >SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING> >HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH> >HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11> >HOUSES.> >THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG> >SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL> >HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE,

A MALE OR FEMALE.> >> > > >> >WITH REGARDS TO ALL> >> >AJAY PANDAV> >> > > >> > Dear Sandy Crowther,> >> >As regards child's sex, it's said in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 221 that a > >general rule not yet found, and in p 213-214 Beejam for boy and > >Kshetram for girl mentioned. In Astrosecrets I, 2003, p 292 and > >Astrosecrets III, 2002, p 84, it's suggested to analyze 5th cusp, > >stlord, sublord, stlord of sublord, their location in rasi, female/ > >male rasi, aspect, conjunction, Rahu/Ketu connections etc. > >> >> >Best regards,> >> >tw> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> >

> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >

December 1, 2004

Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,

Thank you.

I agree with you, it seems for the first child like an example in

Astrosecrets & KP I, p 304, and another example in Astroserets III, p

84 since only 5th sub lord is emphisized even though not specified

the first child.

Best regards,

tw

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

wrote:

> Dear tw53,

> Mr.Balasekar has not specified any thing about this

in his article,naturally, I presume it to be for the first child,and

as usual for the second child's sex the VIIth cusp is to be

taken...and so on...my experiments were so far only in " first child

cases " ...

> I have not had any opportunity so far,to experiment

with this theory in second, third or fourth child-birth...I agree

with you, it is important to know,and perhaps Mr.Balasekar should

have mentioned it somewhere in his article,but he does not seem to

have...!

> Yours sincerely,

> lyrastro1

>

> tw853 <tw853> wrote:

>

> Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,

>

> >>Allow me to quote from a research article by a prominent >>and

> quite senior practitioner of K.P., >>Mr.A.Balasekar...(ref. K.P. &

> Astrology Annual,2000,Pp >>39-41.)

>

> 1. Is it for the first child only or any child? Because the cusp

> taken for the second child is different from the first one in KP

> Reader IV, 1984, p 241 " SECOND DELIVERY " .

>

> >>>This is in reply to a few more similar queries also...

> >> a) If you are analysing a female's chart take the

Vth

> cusp for analysis,if it is the father's chart,take the XIth cusp

for

> >>>analysis,as rightly suggested by Shri Raichur...

>

> 2. Is it to check " whether birth of children is promised or not " as

> mentioned in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 211, 224, 227 & 230? Or

something

> new?

>

> Best regards,

> tw

>

> , Yogesh Rao Lajmi

> wrote:

> > Dear Ron,

> > This is in reply to a few more similar queries

also...

> > a) If you are analysing a female's chart take the

> Vth cusp for analysis,if it is the father's chart,take the XIth

cusp

> for analysis,as rightly suggested by Shri Raichur...

> > b) The starlord of the sub...Ron.

> > With best wishes,

> > lyrastro1

> >

> > rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> >

> > Yogesh,

> >

> > Please see question ** ............... **

> >

> > Ron Gaunt

> >

> > On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:41:58 +0000, you wrote:

> >

> > >Deary Sandy,

> > > Allow me to quote from a research article by

a

> prominent and quite senior practitioner of K.P., Mr.A.Balasekar...

> (ref. K.P. & Astrology Annual,2000,Pp 39-41.).

> > > If the sublord of the Vth cusp or it's star

> lord,is posited in the Sun's Hora, it is a male child...and vice-

> versa...etc...

> >

> > ** does this mean the star lord of the Vth cusp, or the starlord

> > of the planet acting as sublord? **

> >

> > ** also is this specific to a woman's chart only? **

> > >

> > > Sun's hora,and Moon's hora :

> > > a) In odd signs,the first 15 degrees is

> the Sun's Hora,the next 15 deg. is called the Moon's Hora...

> > > b) In the same way,in even signs the

first

> 15 deg. is called the Moon's hora and the next ,the Sun's hora...

> > > In my personal experience I have found this

to

> be very accurate indeed...I suggest,Sandy,you also experiment with

> this theory,and do let me know...

> > > Yours sincerely,

> > > lyrastro1

> > > GOOD LUCK !

> > >

> > >Sandy Crowther <sandy@t...> wrote:

> > >

> > >Dear Ajay and tw,

> > >

> > >Thank you both for your input, and for the additional

information

> on determining the sex of a child…The more we learn, the more

> questions we have – leading to more investigative research. What I

AM

> certain of is that I have found nothing to date that works all of

the

> time. Oh – if life were that simple…J

> > >

> > > All the Best,

> > >

> > > Sandy Crowther

> > >

> > > http://www.jupitersweb.com

> > >

> > > " AND THE RULE

> > >SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE

> > >IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,

> > >AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

> > >SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG

> > >SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

> > >HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH

> > >HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

> > >HOUSES.

> > >THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG

> > >SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL

> > >HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE. "

> > >

> > >WHEN ANY COUPLE ENQUIRES, WHETHER THEY WILL HAVE A

> > >MALE OR FEMALE CHILD, THEN THE HOROSCOPE OF LADY AND

> > >ALSO HER HUSBAND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND THE RULE

> > >SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE

> > >IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,

> > >AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

> > >SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG

> > >SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

> > >HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH

> > >HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

> > >HOUSES.

> > >THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG

> > >SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL

> > >HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE.

> > >

> > >WITH REGARDS TO ALL

> > >

> > >AJAY PANDAV

> > >

> > > Dear Sandy Crowther,

> > >

> > >As regards child's sex, it's said in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 221

> that a

> > >general rule not yet found, and in p 213-214 Beejam for boy and

> > >Kshetram for girl mentioned. In Astrosecrets I, 2003, p 292 and

> > >Astrosecrets III, 2002, p 84, it's suggested to analyze 5th

cusp,

> > >stlord, sublord, stlord of sublord, their location in rasi,

> female/

> > >male rasi, aspect, conjunction, Rahu/Ketu connections etc.

> > >

> > >Best regards,

> > >

> > >tw

> > >

December 1, 2004

Dear lyastrol, Ron,

Upadhyaya, tw, and All,

Thanks for this

lyastrol…I will look into this methodology much further, but today I

quickly reviewed one chart with this methodology (my chart – I have 3

children J) and have come up with the following

percentage statistics:

First

Child: Sublord of 5th house cusp is Venus: Starlord of Venus is

Venus. Venus is at 17 degrees Sagittarius - indicating Female. First child

is Male. L

Second

Child: Sublord of 7th house cusp is Mercury: Starlord of

Mercury is Jupiter. Mercury is at 26 degrees Libra – indicating Female:

Jupiter is at 4 degrees Capricorn - indicating Female. Second child is

Female. J

Third

Child: Sublord of 9th house cusp is Jupiter: Starlord of

Jupiter is Sun. (As already mentioned above – Jupiter indicates

Female: Sun is at 01 degrees Scorpio indicating Female. Third Child is

Female. J

So 66% Success Rate so far…J

Also, I have a question for you with respect to this particular

methodology…What happens when there is a gender conflict between the

sublord and the starlord (for example: one lord indicating a son, and the other

lord indicating a daughter)? Let me illustrate with the KPBC2 Chart that we are

currently working on…

Because this is the Father’s chart, I am using the 11th

house. Sublord of the 11th house cusp is Jupiter. Starlord of

Jupiter is Rahu. Jupiter is posited at 09 degrees 30’ Aquarius –

indicating a son. Rahu is posited at 00 degrees 24 Pisces indicating a

daughter. Does the sublord of the 11th take priority, or vice-versa?

Is there a ruling on this dichotomy? Thanks for sharing your methodology.

Upadhyaya –As requested, when I get a few more minutes in a row

J, I will demonstrate the 7th varga (Saptamsha - D-7)

methodology (for determining the sex of a child) in my next email.

All the

Best,

Sandy

Crowther

http://www.jupitersweb.com

Yogesh Rao Lajmi

[lyrastro1]

Wednesday, December 01, 2004

12:42 AM

Re:

Determining Male or Female Child using KP System

Deary Sandy,

Allow me to quote from a research article by a prominent and quite senior practitioner of K.P., Mr.A.Balasekar...(ref. K.P. &

Astrology Annual,2000,Pp 39-41.).

If the sublord of the Vth cusp or it's star lord,is posited in the Sun's Hora, it is a male child...and vice-versa...etc...

Sun's hora,and Moon's hora :

a)

In odd signs,the first 15 degrees is the Sun's Hora,the next 15 deg.

is called the Moon's

Hora...

b)

In the same way,in even

signs the first 15

deg. is called the Moon's hora

and the next ,the Sun's hora...

In my personal experience I have found this to be

very accurate indeed...I suggest,Sandy,you also experiment with this theory,and

do let me know...

Yours

sincerely,

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !

Sandy

Crowther <sandy wrote:

Dear Ajay and tw,

Thank you both for your input, and for the additional information

on determining the sex of a child…The more we learn, the more questions

we have – leading to more investigative research. What I AM certain of is

that I have found nothing to date that works all of the time. Oh – if

life were that simple…J

All the Best,

Sandy

Crowther

http://www.jupitersweb.com

“AND THE RULE

SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD

BE

IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND

AQUARIES,

AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE

STRONG

SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF

11TH

HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

HOUSES.

THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE

STRONG

SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE

WILL

HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR

FEMALE.”

WHEN ANY COUPLE ENQUIRES, WHETHER THEY WILL HAVE A

MALE OR FEMALE CHILD, THEN THE HOROSCOPE OF LADY

AND

ALSO HER HUSBAND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND THE

RULE

SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD

BE

IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND

AQUARIES,

AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE

STRONG

SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF

11TH

HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

HOUSES.

THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE

STRONG

SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE

WILL

HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR

FEMALE.

WITH REGARDS TO ALL

AJAY PANDAV

Dear

Sandy Crowther,

As regards

child's sex, it's said in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 221 that a

general rule

not yet found, and in p 213-214 Beejam for boy and

Kshetram for

girl mentioned. In Astrosecrets I, 2003, p 292 and

Astrosecrets

III, 2002, p 84, it's suggested to analyze 5th cusp,

stlord,

sublord, stlord of sublord, their location in rasi, female/

male rasi,

aspect, conjunction, Rahu/Ketu connections etc.

Best

regards,

tw

India Matrimony: Find your life partner online.

December 1, 2004

Dear Sandy Crowther,

> Also, I have a question for you with respect to this particular

> methodology.What happens when there is a gender conflict between the

> sublord and the starlord (for example: one lord indicating a son,

>and the other lord indicating a daughter)? Let me illustrate with

>the KPBC2 Chart that we are currently working on.

>

> Because this is the Father's chart, I am using the 11th house.

>Sublord of the 11th house cusp is Jupiter. Starlord of Jupiter is

>Rahu. Jupiter is posited at 09 degrees 30' Aquarius - indicating a

>son. Rahu is posited at 00 degrees 24 Pisces indicating a daughter.

>Does the sublord of the 11th take priority, or vice-versa? Is there

>a ruling on this dichotomy? Thanks for sharing your methodology.

According to 2nd para in p 296, Astroserets & KP I, it's required to

go up to the sublord of Jupiter which is also Jupiter, and it's

supposed to be a son.

However, 5th cusp is used in both examples, one for mother in

Astrosecrets & KP I and another example for father in Astrosecrets &

KP II, without mentioning to take 11th cusp for father. In this

regards, no clarification is available for the following suggestion.

QUOTE

>>>This is in reply to a few more similar queries also...

>> a) If you are analysing a female's chart take the Vth

>>cusp for analysis,if it is the father's chart,take the XIth cusp for

>>>analysis,as rightly suggested by Shri Raichur...

2. Is it to check " whether birth of children is promised or not " as

mentioned in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 211, 224, 227 & 230? Or something

new?

UNQUOTE (Msg # 1695)

Best regards,

tw

, " Sandy Crowther " <sandy@t...>

wrote:

> Dear lyastrol, Ron, Upadhyaya, tw, and All,

>

> Thanks for this lyastrol.I will look into this methodology much

further,

> but today I quickly reviewed one chart with this methodology (my

chart -

> I have 3 children :-)) and have come up with the following

percentage

> statistics:

>

> 1. First Child: Sublord of 5th house cusp is Venus: Starlord of

> Venus is Venus. Venus is at 17 degrees Sagittarius - indicating

Female.

> First child is Male. :-(

> 2. Second Child: Sublord of 7th house cusp is Mercury: Starlord

of

> Mercury is Jupiter. Mercury is at 26 degrees Libra - indicating

Female:

> Jupiter is at 4 degrees Capricorn - indicating Female. Second child

is

> Female. :-)

> 3. Third Child: Sublord of 9th house cusp is Jupiter: Starlord of

> Jupiter is Sun. (As already mentioned above - Jupiter indicates

Female:

> Sun is at 01 degrees Scorpio indicating Female. Third Child is

Female.

> :-)

>

> So 66% Success Rate so far.:-)

>

> Also, I have a question for you with respect to this particular

> methodology.What happens when there is a gender conflict between the

> sublord and the starlord (for example: one lord indicating a son,

and

> the other lord indicating a daughter)? Let me illustrate with the

KPBC2

> Chart that we are currently working on.

>

> Because this is the Father's chart, I am using the 11th house.

Sublord

> of the 11th house cusp is Jupiter. Starlord of Jupiter is Rahu.

Jupiter

> is posited at 09 degrees 30' Aquarius - indicating a son. Rahu is

> posited at 00 degrees 24 Pisces indicating a daughter. Does the

sublord

> of the 11th take priority, or vice-versa? Is there a ruling on this

> dichotomy? Thanks for sharing your methodology.

>

> Upadhyaya -As requested, when I get a few more minutes in a row :-

), I

> will demonstrate the 7th varga (Saptamsha - D-7) methodology (for

> determining the sex of a child) in my next email.

>

> All the Best,

>

> Sandy Crowther

>

> http://www.jupitersweb.com

>

> Yogesh Rao Lajmi [lyrastro1]

> Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:42 AM

>

> Re: Determining Male or Female Child using KP

> System

>

> Deary Sandy,

>

> Allow me to quote from a research article by a

> prominent and quite senior practitioner of K.P., Mr.A.Balasekar...

(ref.

> K.P. & Astrology Annual,2000,Pp 39-41.).

>

> If the sublord of the Vth cusp or it's star

lord,is

> posited in the Sun's Hora, it is a male child...and vice-

versa...etc...

>

> Sun's hora,and Moon's hora :

>

> a) In odd signs,the first 15 degrees is the

> Sun's Hora,the next 15 deg. is called the Moon's Hora...

>

> b) In the same way,in even signs the first

15

> deg. is called the Moon's hora and the next ,the Sun's hora...

>

> In my personal experience I have found this to be

> very accurate indeed...I suggest,Sandy,you also experiment with this

> theory,and do let me know...

>

> Yours sincerely,

>

> lyrastro1

>

> GOOD LUCK !

>

> Sandy Crowther <sandy@t...> wrote:

>

> Dear Ajay and tw,

>

> Thank you both for your input, and for the additional information on

> determining the sex of a child.The more we learn, the more

questions we

> have - leading to more investigative research. What I AM certain of

is

> that I have found nothing to date that works all of the time. Oh -

if

> life were that simple.:-)

>

> All the Best,

>

> Sandy Crowther

>

> <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> http://www.jupitersweb.com

>

> " AND THE RULE

> SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE

> IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,

> AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

> SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG

> SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

> HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH

> HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

> HOUSES.

> THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG

> SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL

> HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE. "

>

WHEN ANY COUPLE ENQUIRES, WHETHER THEY WILL HAVE A

> MALE OR FEMALE CHILD, THEN THE HOROSCOPE OF LADY AND

> ALSO HER HUSBAND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND THE RULE

> SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE

> IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,

> AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

> SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG

> SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

> HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH

> HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

> HOUSES.

> THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG

> SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL

> HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE.

>

> WITH REGARDS TO ALL

>

> AJAY PANDAV

>

> Dear Sandy Crowther,

>

> As regards child's sex, it's said in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 221 that

a

> general rule not yet found, and in p 213-214 Beejam for boy and

> Kshetram for girl mentioned. In Astrosecrets I, 2003, p 292 and

> Astrosecrets III, 2002, p 84, it's suggested to analyze 5th cusp,

> stlord, sublord, stlord of sublord, their location in rasi, female/

> male rasi, aspect, conjunction, Rahu/Ketu connections etc.

>

> Best regards,

>

> tw

>

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December 1, 2004

Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,

Let me ask you one more question. As regards his hora methodology,

does Mr.Balasekar mention in his article to take 5th for mother/ 11th

for father? It is not mentioned in both articles in Astrosecrets.

Perhaps 11th (fullfilment of desire) is taken for father just to

check " whether birth of children is promised or not " and then 5th

which generally represents children. Any rationale to take 11th to

check child's sex?

Thanks.

Best regards,

tw

, " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:

>

> Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,

>

> Thank you.

>

> I agree with you, it seems for the first child like an example in

> Astrosecrets & KP I, p 304, and another example in Astroserets III,

p

> 84 since only 5th sub lord is emphisized even though not specified

> the first child.

>

> Best regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Yogesh Rao Lajmi

> wrote:

> > Dear tw53,

> > Mr.Balasekar has not specified any thing about

this

> in his article,naturally, I presume it to be for the first

child,and

> as usual for the second child's sex the VIIth cusp is to be

> taken...and so on...my experiments were so far only in " first child

> cases " ...

> > I have not had any opportunity so far,to

experiment

> with this theory in second, third or fourth child-birth...I agree

> with you, it is important to know,and perhaps Mr.Balasekar should

> have mentioned it somewhere in his article,but he does not seem to

> have...!

> > Yours sincerely,

> > lyrastro1

> >

> > tw853 <tw853> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Yogesh Rao Lajmi,

> >

> > >>Allow me to quote from a research article by a prominent >>and

> > quite senior practitioner of K.P., >>Mr.A.Balasekar...(ref. K.P.

&

> > Astrology Annual,2000,Pp >>39-41.)

> >

> > 1. Is it for the first child only or any child? Because the cusp

> > taken for the second child is different from the first one in KP

> > Reader IV, 1984, p 241 " SECOND DELIVERY " .

> >

> > >>>This is in reply to a few more similar queries also...

> > >> a) If you are analysing a female's chart take the

> Vth

> > cusp for analysis,if it is the father's chart,take the XIth cusp

> for

> > >>>analysis,as rightly suggested by Shri Raichur...

> >

> > 2. Is it to check " whether birth of children is promised or not "

as

> > mentioned in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 211, 224, 227 & 230? Or

> something

> > new?

> >

> > Best regards,

> > tw

> >

> > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi

> <lyrastro1>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Ron,

> > > This is in reply to a few more similar queries

> also...

> > > a) If you are analysing a female's chart take

the

> > Vth cusp for analysis,if it is the father's chart,take the XIth

> cusp

> > for analysis,as rightly suggested by Shri Raichur...

> > > b) The starlord of the sub...Ron.

> > > With best wishes,

> > > lyrastro1

> > >

> > > rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Yogesh,

> > >

> > > Please see question ** ............... **

> > >

> > > Ron Gaunt

> > >

> > > On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:41:58 +0000, you wrote:

> > >

> > > >Deary Sandy,

> > > > Allow me to quote from a research article

by

> a

> > prominent and quite senior practitioner of K.P., Mr.A.Balasekar...

> > (ref. K.P. & Astrology Annual,2000,Pp 39-41.).

> > > > If the sublord of the Vth cusp or it's star

> > lord,is posited in the Sun's Hora, it is a male child...and vice-

> > versa...etc...

> > >

> > > ** does this mean the star lord of the Vth cusp, or the

starlord

> > > of the planet acting as sublord? **

> > >

> > > ** also is this specific to a woman's chart only? **

> > > >

> > > > Sun's hora,and Moon's hora :

> > > > a) In odd signs,the first 15 degrees

is

> > the Sun's Hora,the next 15 deg. is called the Moon's Hora...

> > > > b) In the same way,in even signs the

> first

> > 15 deg. is called the Moon's hora and the next ,the Sun's hora...

> > > > In my personal experience I have found this

> to

> > be very accurate indeed...I suggest,Sandy,you also experiment

with

> > this theory,and do let me know...

> > > > Yours sincerely,

> > > > lyrastro1

> > > > GOOD LUCK !

> > > >

> > > >Sandy Crowther <sandy@t...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >Dear Ajay and tw,

> > > >

> > > >Thank you both for your input, and for the additional

> information

> > on determining the sex of a child…The more we learn, the more

> > questions we have – leading to more investigative research. What

I

> AM

> > certain of is that I have found nothing to date that works all of

> the

> > time. Oh – if life were that simple…J

> > > >

> > > > All the Best,

> > > >

> > > > Sandy Crowther

> > > >

> > > > http://www.jupitersweb.com

> > > >

> > > > " AND THE RULE

> > > >SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE

> > > >IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,

> > > >AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

> > > >SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG

> > > >SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

> > > >HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH

> > > >HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

> > > >HOUSES.

> > > >THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG

> > > >SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL

> > > >HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE. "

> > > >

> > > >WHEN ANY COUPLE ENQUIRES, WHETHER THEY WILL HAVE A

> > > >MALE OR FEMALE CHILD, THEN THE HOROSCOPE OF LADY AND

> > > >ALSO HER HUSBAND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND THE RULE

> > > >SAYS THAT THE SUBLORD OF 5TH AND 11TH HOUSE SHOULD BE

> > > >IN FIRM SIGNS I.E. TAURUS, LEO, SCORPIO AND AQUARIES,

> > > >AND SHOULD NOT BE IN DUAL SIGN I.E. GEMINI, VIRGO,

> > > >SAGGITARUS AND PISCES, AND SUBLORD SHOULD BE STRONG

> > > >SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11 HOUSES. WHILE JUDGING

> > > >HOROSCOPE OF HUSBAND OF THAT LADY, THE SUBLORD OF 11TH

> > > >HOUSE SHOULD BE STRONG SIGNIFICATOR OF 2, 5, 11

> > > >HOUSES.

> > > >THE PERIOD OF MAHADASHA SHOULD RELATE TO THESE STRONG

> > > >SIGNIFICATOR. IF THIS RULE FULFILS, THE COUPLE WILL

> > > >HAVE A CHILD OF THEIR OWN CHOICE, A MALE OR FEMALE.

> > > >

> > > >WITH REGARDS TO ALL

> > > >

> > > >AJAY PANDAV

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sandy Crowther,

> > > >

> > > >As regards child's sex, it's said in KP Reader IV, 1984, p 221

> > that a

> > > >general rule not yet found, and in p 213-214 Beejam for boy

and

> > > >Kshetram for girl mentioned. In Astrosecrets I, 2003, p 292

and

> > > >Astrosecrets III, 2002, p 84, it's suggested to analyze 5th

> cusp,

> > > >stlord, sublord, stlord of sublord, their location in rasi,

> > female/

> > > >male rasi, aspect, conjunction, Rahu/Ketu connections etc.

> > > >

> > > >Best regards,

> > > >

> > > >tw

> > > >

December 2, 2004

Request to all

Please use KP Methods only, and try not to mix it up with Vedic/Traditional Methods, unless absolutely essential.

Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: