Guest guest Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 The answer to the first Blind Chart is that the native died when pillion riding from his job with a fellow workman. They were knocked down by a car and the native's head was terribly injured. The accident occurred at 5:45pm, October 10, 1931 at Nottingham and the native died the following day. Congratulations to Yogesh and TW who both cited Badhaka and Maraka planets as likely to cause an accident. Yogesh saw a serious accident but protection from the aspects of Jupiter. This did not transpire - why? We will wait a few days to discuss this chart before moving on to KPBC2. Ron Gaunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2004 Report Share Posted November 15, 2004 Dear Ron, I was quite pleased to hear that my analysis was qite near the mark...but I missed the point that death will take place the next day...! In any case a near-miss,in my book, means I've scored a big zero,as per the standards I've set for myself... However I am sending you alongwith,the chart cast for the time of the event...which together with the BC.(sent along with my answer),had helped me arrive at the answer I had given... Members are kindly requested to please point out how and why I really should not have really MISSED the death of the person involved....? With the very best wishes,I am, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: The answer to the first Blind Chart is that the native died whenpillion riding from his job with a fellow workman. They wereknocked down by a car and the native's head was terribly injured.The accident occurred at 5:45pm, October 10, 1931 at Nottinghamand the native died the following day.Congratulations to Yogesh and TW who both cited Badhaka andMaraka planets as likely to cause an accident. Yogesh saw aserious accident but protection from the aspects of Jupiter.This did not transpire - why?We will wait a few days to discuss this chart before moving on toKPBC2.Ron Gaunt India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. M A N G E S H M A H A L A X M I P R A S S A N N A L.Y.RAO 132 MINA Shivaji Park Rd.2 Mumbai 400 028 TEL: 2445 7401:3091 5319 email: lyr:lyastro1 ASTROLOGER:L.Y.RAO:Tel:2445 7401:3091 5319 -------------------------------- | | | | | | | | | | |Uran 23 26 10| | | | |IX 20 5 39| | | | |Rahu 5 28 2|X 23 42 23| |X1 2 47 5| |Ven 1 11 12| | |Plut-R 27 37 30| | | | | | -------------------------------- | | NAME:r/o RONGAUNT | | | | MONDAY 10 -10 -1931 | | |VIII 24 30 8| Time 17 45 0 | | |Moon 7 56 59| | | |VII 5 4 50| SID.TIME 2 h. 56 m. 14 s. |XII 7 33 58| | | |Jup -R 24 48 16| | | NAKS:Shat.-PADA 1 | | | | | | :---------------| PLACE:IPSWICH ENGLAND UK * |---------------| | | | | |Sun 24 56 32| LAT 52 deg 6 min N | | |Mars 23 28 19| |Asc. 5 4 50| |Merc 11 18 46| Long 1 deg 10 min E |Nept-R 14 18 21| |VI 7 33 58| |For 18 5 16| |Sat 5 23 9| Ayan 22 d. 49 m. 8 s. |II 24 30 8| | | | | | |CAST BY:L.Y.RAO | | -------------------------------- | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |V 2 47 5| |IV 23 42 23| | | | | |Ketu 5 28 2| | | | |III 20 5 39| | | | | | | | | | | -------------------------------- DASA BAL. Rahu 16 Y. 97 Days ENDS ON 14 5 1948 BHK. Bal. Rahu 0 Y. 353 Days: ANT. Bal. Ketu 0 Days: SOOK Bal. Merc 0 Days CUSP Sgl Stl Sbl Ssl :PLANET Sgl Stl Sbl SsL ASC Sun Ket Mar Sat :SUN. Sat Mar Rah Sat 2nd Sun Ven Mer Ven :MOON Sat Rah Rah Ket 3rd Mer Moo Ket Rah :MARS Sat Mar Mar Rah 4th Ven Jup Sat Jup :MERC Sat Moo Mar Jup 5th Jup Ket Ven Mer :JUP.-R Moo Mer Rah Sat 6th Sat Sun Ket Sat :VEN. Jup Jup Mar Ven 7th Sat Mar Sun Rah :SAT. Sat Sun Mer Ket 8th Sat Jup Mer Ven :RAHU Jup Sat Mer Mer 9th Jup Mer Ven Mar :KETU Mer Sun Mer Ket 10th Mar Ven Sat Rah :URAN Jup Mer Mar Rah 11th Mer Mar Ven Ven :NEPT-R Sun Ven Ven Rah 12th Moo Sat Ket Moo :FOR. Sun Ven Mar Moo :PLUT-R Mer Jup Ven Rah ASTROLOGER:L.Y.RAO:Tel:2445 7401:3091 5319 BIRTH DETAILS OF r/o RONGAUNT SIGNIFICATORS OF HOUSES SIGNIFICATORS ARE SHOWN IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER OF IMPORTANCE A-Planets in Star of Occupants of House: B-Planets in House C-Planets in stars of House Lord: D-House Lord: E= Planets Aspected by A,B,C,D Trad aspects BY SIGN : F=Sub Lord HOUSE A B C D E F ---- ASC | |NEP:FOR: |SAT:KET: |Sun|MA:ME:JU:SA|Mar | | | | |SU:VE:RA: | 2nd | |KET: |SAT:KET: |Sun|MA:ME:JU:SA|Mer | | | | |SU:VE:RA: | 3rd | | |JUP:URA: |Mer|SU:MA:JU:SA|Ket | | | | |ME:VE:RA: | 4th | | |NEP:FOR: |Ven|RA:KE: |Sat | | | | | | 5th | | |VEN:PLU: |Jup|SU:MA:ME:VE|Ven | | | | |SA:RA:KE: | 6th |SAT:KET:SUN:MAR|SUN:MAR:MER:SAT|RAH: |Sat|SU:MA:ME:JU|Ket |JUP:URA:RAH: | | | |VE:RA:KE:SA| 7th |MER: |MOO: |RAH: |Sat|SU:MA:ME:JU|Sun | | | | |VE:RA:KE:SA| 8th |NEP:FOR:MOO: |VEN:RAH: |RAH: |Sat|SU:MA:ME:JU|Mer | | | | |VE:RA:KE: | 9th | |URA: |VEN:PLU: |Jup|SU:MA:ME:VE|Ven | | | | |SA:RA:KE: | 10th | | |SUN:MAR: |Mar|SU:ME:JU:SA|Sat | | | | |MA: | 11th | |PLU: |JUP:URA: |Mer|SU:MA:JU:SA|Ven | | | | |ME:VE:RA: | 12th |VEN:PLU: |JUP: |MER: |Moo|SU:MA:JU:SA|Ket | | | | |ME:VE:RA:KE| ---- PLANET House Numbers Signified: Aspecting Planets SUN. A-06,B-06,C-10,D-As,D-02, :MA:ME:JU:SA:F- 7, MOON A-08,B-07,D-12, :F- MARS A-06,B-06,C-10,D-10, :SU:ME:JU:SA:F- 1, MERC A-07,B-06,C-12,D-03,D-11, :SU:MA:JU:SA:F- 2, 8, JUP. A-06,B-12,C-03,C-11,D-05,D-09,:SU:MA:ME:SA:F- VEN. A-12,B-08,C-05,C-09,D-04, :JU:SA:RA:KE:F- 5, 9,11, SAT. A-06,B-06,C-As,C-02,D-06,D-07,D-08, :SU:MA:ME:JU:F- 4,10, RAHU A-06,B-08,C-06,C-07,C-08, :JU:VE:SA:KE:F- KETU A-06,B-02,C-As,C-02, :VE:RA:F- 3, 6,12, URAN A-06,B-09,C-03,C-11, :JU:VE:SA:RA:KE:F- NEPT A-08,B-As,C-04, :MO:MA:F- FOR. A-08,B-As,C-04, :MO:MA:F- PLUT A-12,B-11,C-05,C-09, :F- RAHU will ACT as AGENT for Jup,Sat also KETU will ACT as AGENT for Mer,Sun also Planets EXALTED or in OWN house Strongly signify the house owned These are : MARS:EXA JUP.:EXA VEN.:EXA SAT.:OWN PAGE END OBSERVATIONS : 1) This is the chart of the heavens at Ipswitch,on,10-10-1931,at 17-45 PM. 2) This is for your information... 3) This chart helped me judge the event fairly accurately... 4) This chart read along-with the birtth-chart,as a matter=of-fact was used by me to arrive at the conclusion that I did... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Yogesh, The most critical part of the natal chart was the close opposition of Mercury to Saturn. You had it right as Mercury is Badhaka and Maraka, and Saturn is also Maraka. All three pointed to accidental death. Confirmed by 8th sub lord Moon being in the star of Saturn and Sub of Mercury. Transiting Maraka Saturn at the time of the accident came EXACTLY in aspect with the natal Saturn in the critical natal Mercury/Saturn configuration. At the same time transit Mars (note the sub of natal Mars is also Saturn) came EXACTLY conjunct natal Mercury in the same configuration. So we have the two accident planets Mars and Saturn activating both ends of the death axis of Mercury/Saturn. It is also interesting that transiting Part of Fortune was EXACTLY conjunct natal Saturn. The finishing stroke was provided TO THE MINUTE when transiting Asc came EXACTLY aspect to natal Asc, SE Asc and Mercury and Transit Neptune at the time of the accident. What would have been confusing to me if I had not known the outcome - was the dasas. The involvement of Jupiter just does not seem correct to me. As I explained moving the ayanamsa slightly provides an answer. Whether such a change will be valid in other cases remains to be seen. Ron Gaunt On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 07:26:25 +0000, you wrote: >Dear Ron, > I was quite pleased to hear that my analysis was qite near the mark...but I missed the point that death will take place the next day...! > In any case a near-miss,in my book, means I've scored a big zero,as per the standards I've set for myself... > > However I am sending you alongwith,the chart cast for the time of the event...which together with the BC.(sent along with my answer),had helped me arrive at the answer I had given... > > Members are kindly requested to please point out how and why I really should not have really MISSED the death of the person involved....? > > With the very best wishes,I am, > > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > > > > > >rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > >The answer to the first Blind Chart is that the native died when >pillion riding from his job with a fellow workman. They were >knocked down by a car and the native's head was terribly injured. >The accident occurred at 5:45pm, October 10, 1931 at Nottingham >and the native died the following day. > >Congratulations to Yogesh and TW who both cited Badhaka and >Maraka planets as likely to cause an accident. Yogesh saw a >serious accident but protection from the aspects of Jupiter. >This did not transpire - why? > >We will wait a few days to discuss this chart before moving on to >KPBC2. > > >Ron Gaunt > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Ron ji, I was not part of this analysis. I'll try to participate in future charts. I must congratulate you for this fine attempt. IMO Blind Charts are the best methods for practical learning. Keep it up. Regards, Punit Pandey On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:32:26 +1000, rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > > The answer to the first Blind Chart is that the native died when > pillion riding from his job with a fellow workman. They were > knocked down by a car and the native's head was terribly injured. > The accident occurred at 5:45pm, October 10, 1931 at Nottingham > and the native died the following day. > > Congratulations to Yogesh and TW who both cited Badhaka and > Maraka planets as likely to cause an accident. Yogesh saw a > serious accident but protection from the aspects of Jupiter. > This did not transpire - why? > > We will wait a few days to discuss this chart before moving on to > KPBC2. > > > Ron Gaunt > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 Punit, I'm glad to see you find the BCs interesting. Participation not only hones ones skills in astrology but puts methods to the test. By a process of eliminating what doesn't work consistently, even a few dedicated astrologers may be able to find out what does work. With the wealth of experience of members of this List we should be able to achieve results which will benefit all. We look forward to your participation. Ron Gaunt On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 11:37:59 +0530, you wrote: > >Ron ji, > >I was not part of this analysis. I'll try to participate in future >charts. I must congratulate you for this fine attempt. IMO Blind >Charts are the best methods for practical learning. > >Keep it up. > >Regards, > >Punit Pandey > > > >On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:32:26 +1000, rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: >> >> The answer to the first Blind Chart is that the native died when >> pillion riding from his job with a fellow workman. They were >> knocked down by a car and the native's head was terribly injured. >> The accident occurred at 5:45pm, October 10, 1931 at Nottingham >> and the native died the following day. >> >> Congratulations to Yogesh and TW who both cited Badhaka and >> Maraka planets as likely to cause an accident. Yogesh saw a >> serious accident but protection from the aspects of Jupiter. >> This did not transpire - why? >> >> We will wait a few days to discuss this chart before moving on to >> KPBC2. >> >> >> Ron Gaunt >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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