Guest guest Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 All Members, There has been little reply to the idea of Blind Charts. This may be due to the fact that Yogesh has already given his support. Therefore, I enclose the first Blind Chart. I have numbered it so that if we progress along this path they will be easily documented for reference purposes. If possible it would be preferable for participants to give reasons for their opinion as a learning aid to other members - up front. However, if time is at a premium, a simple opinion as to the event will suffice. But it would be a service to members, if those who determine the event correctly, will later provide their reasons. KPBC1 Male, D.O.B. 3 November 1911 11:48am UT + 00.00 Ipswich, England 52N04, 001E10 Asc 13 Sag 09 EVENT: What took place at Nottingham, England (52N5 001W10) 10th October 1931 at 5:45pm? Will participating members please respond by 00:01 am GMT 15th November, as I will be posting the answer then. Ron Gaunt On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:58:57 +0000, you wrote: >Dear Ron, > On my part,I completely endorse your idea...it will serve to sharpen the observation power of the student,to prognosticate,what really took place on that particular day... > A lot of application of all what one has learnt from his experience and observation will come into play,and also the ability to carefully analyse logically,taking the help of many factors,like the position of Moon at the time of the event,the exact DBAS operating at the time..the RPs at the TOJ....etc... > I agree Ron,that this will be a very good exercise... > By the way,I had successfully predicted as follows... " Bush will win surely,but not without some hiccups... " > In case any member is interested I can mail him the horary chart and rhe analysis... > With best wishes, > I am,yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > >rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > >Punit & members, > >I am certain that there is gold in many of the KP books. >However, they appear to have been written before the general use >of computers. Accordingly examples are not easy to follow, >because they give lists of significators for events, which would >be easy to follow with a computer printout - but not easy from >the limited chart and event details in the books. > >Accordingly I would like to see members attempts to delineate >events. ie. accidents, marriage, childbirth, employment, etc. > >An excellent learning tool is the Blind Chart. Where birth >data is given, and a date or dates. The objective is to >ascertain what happened on this date. This doesn't appeal to >everyone, as we can so easily see our limitations; but for those >of us who are willing to work at it, every such chart is an >excellent learning opportunity - particularly as we can learn >from each others attempt. > >As I have thousands of charts on the Astrodatabank I will be >happy to contribute data if required. And if members would >like to try the Blind Chart idea I will be happy to accept >details from members and post in an orderly fashion at say >2 weekly or monthly intervals, if the List moderator agrees. > > >Ron Gaunt > > > > > >On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:41:21 +0530, you wrote: > >> >>Kanak ji, >> >>Yes sure. It is an excellent topic for discussion. We should push it >>for discussion. What I was looking for is a plan for future >>discussion. Now, in my opinion, it is the best time to increase the >>quality of discussion in the forum and make it KP learning and >>research place. And for this, I am looking forward to your and other >>senior members contribution. >> >>Regards, >> >>Punit Pandey >> >> >>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:51:02 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia >><kanbosastro wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> dear punit ji, >>> >>> topic mention by lajmiji is also good for discussion.(retro. planet) >>> >>> >>> >>> regards >>> >>> kanak >>> >>> >>> >Punit Pandey <punitp >>> > >>> > >>> > Discussion Topics >>> >Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:45:15 +0530 >>> >>> >>> > >>> >Yogesh ji, >>> > >>> >Good effort. We can start discussions on few of the important concepts >>> >of KP. I personally want to discuss " identification of exact events >>> >using natal chart " . I also request other members to let me know what >>> >can be the important topics for discussion. >>> > >>> >Regards, >>> > >>> >Punit Pandey >>> > >>> >On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:37:50 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi >>> ><lyrastro1 wrote: >>> > > Dear Members, >>> > > We have all been discussing thus >>> > > far,verifying the correct ascendant,Ruling Planets,and >>> > > other topics... >>> > > I suggest that we discuss,in >>> > > future,some more of the many finer points of K.P.,like >>> > > for example,Retrograde Planets,DRPE(Day Rise Planetary >>> > > Effect)and other newer very easily practicable >>> > > theories, that have emerged through the relentless >>> > > pursuit of Excellence...Let us begin with PLANETS IN >>> > > RETROGRESSION...and their role in PREDICTIVE HORARY >>> > > ASTROLOGY...a bugbear for beginners... >>> > > WHAT DO KSK AND K.P. SAY... ? >>> > > A Planet in retrograde motion,if >>> > > posited in a constellation whose lord is in direct >>> > > motion,after some delay or obstacle,the planet will >>> > > give results,(as per its significations,sub etc.)but >>> > > if it is retrograde and also in a retrograde >>> > > constellation,the planet will give ONLY >>> > > FAILURE...(during its DBA). >>> > > KSK further clarifies that if the >>> > > retrograde planet is in a constellation,whose lord is >>> > > in DIRECT MOTION...it will fructify the result only >>> > > after it turns direct in motion, and then reaches its >>> > > point of retrogression...not before... >>> > > (ALL THE ABOVE APPLIES TO HORARY ONLY.) >>> > > In K.P.,Retrograde planets have not >>> > > been assigned any special/different role to play...in >>> > > Natal Astrology... >>> > > Experiences of all members are >>> > > invited... >>> > > With best wishes, >>> > > lyrastro1 >>> > > GOOD LUCK ! >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > ______________________ >>> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online >>> > > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 Dear Ron, Thank you...I will take a 3-4 days,in the meanwhile kindly send me the Long.and Lat. of Ipswitch...I do not know if my software has it in its memory... Thank you... Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: All Members,There has been little reply to the idea of Blind Charts. Thismay be due to the fact that Yogesh has already given his support.Therefore, I enclose the first Blind Chart. I have numbered itso that if we progress along this path they will be easilydocumented for reference purposes. If possible it would be preferable for participants to givereasons for their opinion as a learning aid to other members - upfront. However, if time is at a premium, a simple opinion as tothe event will suffice. But it would be a service to members,if those who determine the event correctly, will later providetheir reasons. KPBC1Male,D.O.B. 3 November 191111:48am UT + 00.00Ipswich, England52N04, 001E10Asc 13 Sag 09EVENT: What took place at Nottingham, England (52N5 001W10) 10th October 1931 at 5:45pm?Will participating members please respond by 00:01 am GMT15th November, as I will be posting the answer then.Ron GauntOn Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:58:57 +0000, you wrote:>Dear Ron,> On my part,I completely endorse your idea...it will serve to sharpen the observation power of the student,to prognosticate,what really took place on that particular day...> A lot of application of all what one has learnt from his experience and observation will come into play,and also the ability to carefully analyse logically,taking the help of many factors,like the position of Moon at the time of the event,the exact DBAS operating at the time..the RPs at the TOJ....etc...> I agree Ron,that this will be a very good exercise...> By the way,I had successfully predicted as follows..." Bush will win surely,but not without some hiccups..."> In case any member is interested I can mail him the horary chart and rhe analysis...> With best wishes,> I am,yours sincerely,> lyrastro1>>rongaunt <rongaunt wrote:>>Punit & members,>>I am certain that there is gold in many of the KP books.>However, they appear to have been written before the general use>of computers. Accordingly examples are not easy to follow,>because they give lists of significators for events, which would>be easy to follow with a computer printout - but not easy from>the limited chart and event details in the books.>>Accordingly I would like to see members attempts to delineate>events. ie. accidents, marriage, childbirth, employment, etc.>>An excellent learning tool is the Blind Chart. Where birth>data is given, and a date or dates. The objective is to>ascertain what happened on this date. This doesn't appeal to>everyone, as we can so easily see our limitations; but for those>of us who are willing to work at it, every such chart is an>excellent learning opportunity - particularly as we can learn>from each others attempt.>>As I have thousands of charts on the Astrodatabank I will be>happy to contribute data if required. And if members would>like to try the Blind Chart idea I will be happy to accept>details from members and post in an orderly fashion at say>2 weekly or monthly intervals, if the List moderator agrees.>>>Ron Gaunt >>>>>>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:41:21 +0530, you wrote:>>>>>Kanak ji,>>>>Yes sure. It is an excellent topic for discussion. We should push it>>for discussion. What I was looking for is a plan for future>>discussion. Now, in my opinion, it is the best time to increase the>>quality of discussion in the forum and make it KP learning and>>research place. And for this, I am looking forward to your and other>>senior members contribution.>>>>Regards,>>>>Punit Pandey>>>>>>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:51:02 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia>><kanbosastro wrote:>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> dear punit ji,>>> >>> topic mention by lajmiji is also good for discussion.(retro. planet)>>> >>> >>> >>> regards>>> >>> kanak>>> >>> >>> >Punit Pandey <punitp >>> > >>> > >>> > Discussion Topics >>> >Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:45:15 +0530 >>> >>> >>> > >>> >Yogesh ji, >>> > >>> >Good effort. We can start discussions on few of the important concepts >>> >of KP. I personally want to discuss "identification of exact events >>> >using natal chart". I also request other members to let me know what >>> >can be the important topics for discussion. >>> > >>> >Regards, >>> > >>> >Punit Pandey >>> > >>> >On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:37:50 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi >>> ><lyrastro1 wrote: >>> > > Dear Members, >>> > > We have all been discussing thus >>> > > far,verifying the correct ascendant,Ruling Planets,and >>> > > other topics... >>> > > I suggest that we discuss,in >>> > > future,some more of the many finer points of K.P.,like >>> > > for example,Retrograde Planets,DRPE(Day Rise Planetary >>> > > Effect)and other newer very easily practicable >>> > > theories, that have emerged through the relentless >>> > > pursuit of Excellence...Let us begin with PLANETS IN >>> > > RETROGRESSION...and their role in PREDICTIVE HORARY >>> > > ASTROLOGY...a bugbear for beginners... >>> > > WHAT DO KSK AND K.P. SAY... ? >>> > > A Planet in retrograde motion,if >>> > > posited in a constellation whose lord is in direct >>> > > motion,after some delay or obstacle,the planet will >>> > > give results,(as per its significations,sub etc.)but >>> > > if it is retrograde and also in a retrograde >>> > > constellation,the planet will give ONLY >>> > > FAILURE...(during its DBA). >>> > > KSK further clarifies that if the >>> > > retrograde planet is in a constellation,whose lord is >>> > > in DIRECT MOTION...it will fructify the result only >>> > > after it turns direct in motion, and then reaches its >>> > > point of retrogression...not before... >>> > > (ALL THE ABOVE APPLIES TO HORARY ONLY.) >>> > > In K.P.,Retrograde planets have not >>> > > been assigned any special/different role to play...in >>> > > Natal Astrology... >>> > > Experiences of all members are >>> > > invited... >>> > > With best wishes, >>> > > lyrastro1 >>> > > GOOD LUCK ! >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > ______________________>>> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online >>> > > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 Better you can post the KP chart itself. On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:41:28 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dear Ron, > Thank you...I will take a 3-4 days,in the meanwhile kindly > send me the Long.and Lat. of Ipswitch...I do not know if my software has it > in its memory... > Thank you... > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > > > All Members, > > There has been little reply to the idea of Blind Charts. This > may be due to the fact that Yogesh has already given his support. > Therefore, I enclose the first Blind Chart. I have numbered it > so that if we progress along this path they will be easily > documented for reference purposes. > > If possible it would be preferable for participants to give > reasons for their opinion as a learning aid to other members - up > front. However, if time is at a premium, a simple opinion as to > the event will suffice. But it would be a service to members, > if those who determine the event correctly, will later provide > their reasons. > > > KPBC1 > > Male, > D.O.B. 3 November 1911 > 11:48am UT + 00.00 > Ipswich, England > 52N04, 001E10 > Asc 13 Sag 09 > > EVENT: > > What took place at Nottingham, England (52N5 001W10) > 10th October 1931 at 5:45pm? > > Will participating members please respond by 00:01 am GMT > 15th November, as I will be posting the answer then. > > > Ron Gaunt > > > > On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:58:57 +0000, you wrote: > > >Dear Ron, > > On my part,I completely endorse your idea...it will serve to > sharpen the observation power of the student,to prognosticate,what really > took place on that particular day... > > A lot of application of all what one has learnt from his > experience and observation will come into play,and also the ability to > carefully analyse logically,taking the help of many factors,like the > position of Moon at the time of the event,the exact DBAS operating at the > time..the RPs at the TOJ....etc... > > I agree Ron,that this will be a very good exercise... > > By the way,I had successfully predicted as follows... " Bush > will win surely,but not without some hiccups... " > > In case any member is interested I can mail him the horary > chart and rhe analysis... > > With best wishes, > > I am,yours sincerely, > > lyrastro1 > > > >rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > > > >Punit & members, > > > >I am certain that there is gold in many of the KP books. > >However, they appear to have been written before the general use > >of computers. Accordingly examples are not easy to follow, > >because they give lists of significators for events, which would > >be easy to follow with a computer printout - but not easy from > >the limited chart and event details in the books. > > > >Accordingly I would like to see members attempts to delineate > >events. ie. accidents, marriage, childbirth, employment, etc. > > > >An excellent learning tool is the Blind Chart. Where birth > >data is given, and a date or dates. The objective is to > >ascertain what happened on this date. This doesn't appeal to > >everyone, as we can so easily see our limitations; but for those > >of us who are willing to work at it, every such chart is an > >excellent learning opportunity - particularly as we can learn > >from each others attempt. > > > >As I have thousands of charts on the Astrodatabank I will be > >happy to contribute data if required. And if members would > >like to try the Blind Chart idea I will be happy to accept > >details from members and post in an orderly fashion at say > >2 weekly or monthly intervals, if the List moderator agrees. > > > > > >Ron Gaunt > > > > > > > > > > > >On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:41:21 +0530, you wrote: > > > >> > >>Kanak ji, > >> > >>Yes sure. It is an excellent topic for discussion. We should push it > >>for discussion. What I was looking for is a plan for future > >>discussion. Now, in my opinion, it is the best time to increase the > >>quality of discussion in the forum and make it KP learning and > >>research place. And for this, I am looking forward to your and other > >>senior members contribution. > >> > >>Regards, > >> > >>Punit Pandey > >> > >> > >>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:51:02 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia > >><kanbosastro wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> dear punit ji, > >>> > >>> topic mention by lajmiji is also good for discussion.(retro. planet) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> regards > >>> > >>> kanak > >>> > >>> > >>> >Punit Pandey <punitp > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Discussion Topics > >>> >Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:45:15 +0530 > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> >Yogesh ji, > >>> > > >>> >Good effort. We can start discussions on few of the important concepts > >>> >of KP. I personally want to discuss " identification of exact events > >>> >using natal chart " . I also request other members to let me know what > >>> >can be the important topics for discussion. > >>> > > >>> >Regards, > >>> > > >>> >Punit Pandey > >>> > > >>> >On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:37:50 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi > >>> ><lyrastro1 wrote: > >>> > > Dear Members, > >>> > > We have all been discussing thus > >>> > > far,verifying the correct ascendant,Ruling Planets,and > >>> > > other topics... > >>> > > I suggest that we discuss,in > >>> > > future,some more of the many finer points of K.P.,like > >>> > > for example,Retrograde Planets,DRPE(Day Rise Planetary > >>> > > Effect)and other newer very easily practicable > >>> > > theories, that have emerged through the relentless > >>> > > pursuit of Excellence...Let us begin with PLANETS IN > >>> > > RETROGRESSION...and their role in PREDICTIVE HORARY > >>> > > ASTROLOGY...a bugbear for beginners... > >>> > > WHAT DO KSK AND K.P. SAY... ? > >>> > > A Planet in retrograde motion,if > >>> > > posited in a constellation whose lord is in direct > >>> > > motion,after some delay or obstacle,the planet will > >>> > > give results,(as per its significations,sub etc.)but > >>> > > if it is retrograde and also in a retrograde > >>> > > constellation,the planet will give ONLY > >>> > > FAILURE...(during its DBA). > >>> > > KSK further clarifies that if the > >>> > > retrograde planet is in a constellation,whose lord is > >>> > > in DIRECT MOTION...it will fructify the result only > >>> > > after it turns direct in motion, and then reaches its > >>> > > point of retrogression...not before... > >>> > > (ALL THE ABOVE APPLIES TO HORARY ONLY.) > >>> > > In K.P.,Retrograde planets have not > >>> > > been assigned any special/different role to play...in > >>> > > Natal Astrology... > >>> > > Experiences of all members are > >>> > > invited... > >>> > > With best wishes, > >>> > > lyrastro1 > >>> > > GOOD LUCK ! > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > ______________________ > >>> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online > >>> > > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2004 Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 Yogesh, Ipswich as shown below is 52N04 001E10 Ron Gaunt On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 15:41:28 +0000, you wrote: >Dear Ron, > Thank you...I will take a 3-4 days,in the meanwhile kindly send me the Long.and Lat. of Ipswitch...I do not know if my software has it in its memory... > Thank you... > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > >rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: >All Members, > >There has been little reply to the idea of Blind Charts. This >may be due to the fact that Yogesh has already given his support. >Therefore, I enclose the first Blind Chart. I have numbered it >so that if we progress along this path they will be easily >documented for reference purposes. > >If possible it would be preferable for participants to give >reasons for their opinion as a learning aid to other members - up >front. However, if time is at a premium, a simple opinion as to >the event will suffice. But it would be a service to members, >if those who determine the event correctly, will later provide >their reasons. > > >KPBC1 > >Male, >D.O.B. 3 November 1911 >11:48am UT + 00.00 >Ipswich, England >52N04, 001E10 >Asc 13 Sag 09 > >EVENT: > >What took place at Nottingham, England (52N5 001W10) >10th October 1931 at 5:45pm? > >Will participating members please respond by 00:01 am GMT >15th November, as I will be posting the answer then. > > >Ron Gaunt > > > >On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:58:57 +0000, you wrote: > >>Dear Ron, >> On my part,I completely endorse your idea...it will serve to sharpen the observation power of the student,to prognosticate,what really took place on that particular day... >> A lot of application of all what one has learnt from his experience and observation will come into play,and also the ability to carefully analyse logically,taking the help of many factors,like the position of Moon at the time of the event,the exact DBAS operating at the time..the RPs at the TOJ....etc... >> I agree Ron,that this will be a very good exercise... >> By the way,I had successfully predicted as follows... " Bush will win surely,but not without some hiccups... " >> In case any member is interested I can mail him the horary chart and rhe analysis... >> With best wishes, >> I am,yours sincerely, >> lyrastro1 >> >>rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: >> >>Punit & members, >> >>I am certain that there is gold in many of the KP books. >>However, they appear to have been written before the general use >>of computers. Accordingly examples are not easy to follow, >>because they give lists of significators for events, which would >>be easy to follow with a computer printout - but not easy from >>the limited chart and event details in the books. >> >>Accordingly I would like to see members attempts to delineate >>events. ie. accidents, marriage, childbirth, employment, etc. >> >>An excellent learning tool is the Blind Chart. Where birth >>data is given, and a date or dates. The objective is to >>ascertain what happened on this date. This doesn't appeal to >>everyone, as we can so easily see our limitations; but for those >>of us who are willing to work at it, every such chart is an >>excellent learning opportunity - particularly as we can learn >>from each others attempt. >> >>As I have thousands of charts on the Astrodatabank I will be >>happy to contribute data if required. And if members would >>like to try the Blind Chart idea I will be happy to accept >>details from members and post in an orderly fashion at say >>2 weekly or monthly intervals, if the List moderator agrees. >> >> >>Ron Gaunt >> >> >> >> >> >>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:41:21 +0530, you wrote: >> >>> >>>Kanak ji, >>> >>>Yes sure. It is an excellent topic for discussion. We should push it >>>for discussion. What I was looking for is a plan for future >>>discussion. Now, in my opinion, it is the best time to increase the >>>quality of discussion in the forum and make it KP learning and >>>research place. And for this, I am looking forward to your and other >>>senior members contribution. >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Punit Pandey >>> >>> >>>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:51:02 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia >>><kanbosastro wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> dear punit ji, >>>> >>>> topic mention by lajmiji is also good for discussion.(retro. planet) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> regards >>>> >>>> kanak >>>> >>>> >>>> >Punit Pandey <punitp >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Discussion Topics >>>> >Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:45:15 +0530 >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> >Yogesh ji, >>>> > >>>> >Good effort. We can start discussions on few of the important concepts >>>> >of KP. I personally want to discuss " identification of exact events >>>> >using natal chart " . I also request other members to let me know what >>>> >can be the important topics for discussion. >>>> > >>>> >Regards, >>>> > >>>> >Punit Pandey >>>> > >>>> >On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:37:50 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi >>>> ><lyrastro1 wrote: >>>> > > Dear Members, >>>> > > We have all been discussing thus >>>> > > far,verifying the correct ascendant,Ruling Planets,and >>>> > > other topics... >>>> > > I suggest that we discuss,in >>>> > > future,some more of the many finer points of K.P.,like >>>> > > for example,Retrograde Planets,DRPE(Day Rise Planetary >>>> > > Effect)and other newer very easily practicable >>>> > > theories, that have emerged through the relentless >>>> > > pursuit of Excellence...Let us begin with PLANETS IN >>>> > > RETROGRESSION...and their role in PREDICTIVE HORARY >>>> > > ASTROLOGY...a bugbear for beginners... >>>> > > WHAT DO KSK AND K.P. SAY... ? >>>> > > A Planet in retrograde motion,if >>>> > > posited in a constellation whose lord is in direct >>>> > > motion,after some delay or obstacle,the planet will >>>> > > give results,(as per its significations,sub etc.)but >>>> > > if it is retrograde and also in a retrograde >>>> > > constellation,the planet will give ONLY >>>> > > FAILURE...(during its DBA). >>>> > > KSK further clarifies that if the >>>> > > retrograde planet is in a constellation,whose lord is >>>> > > in DIRECT MOTION...it will fructify the result only >>>> > > after it turns direct in motion, and then reaches its >>>> > > point of retrogression...not before... >>>> > > (ALL THE ABOVE APPLIES TO HORARY ONLY.) >>>> > > In K.P.,Retrograde planets have not >>>> > > been assigned any special/different role to play...in >>>> > > Natal Astrology... >>>> > > Experiences of all members are >>>> > > invited... >>>> > > With best wishes, >>>> > > lyrastro1 >>>> > > GOOD LUCK ! >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > ______________________ >>>> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online >>>> > > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Dear Ron, Am sending you the BC,with my analysis for what it is worth... Kindly send your valued comments please... Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: All Members,There has been little reply to the idea of Blind Charts. Thismay be due to the fact that Yogesh has already given his support.Therefore, I enclose the first Blind Chart. I have numbered itso that if we progress along this path they will be easilydocumented for reference purposes. If possible it would be preferable for participants to givereasons for their opinion as a learning aid to other members - upfront. However, if time is at a premium, a simple opinion as tothe event will suffice. But it would be a service to members,if those who determine the event correctly, will later providetheir reasons. KPBC1Male,D.O.B. 3 November 191111:48am UT + 00.00Ipswich, England52N04, 001E10Asc 13 Sag 09EVENT: What took place at Nottingham, England (52N5 001W10) 10th October 1931 at 5:45pm?Will participating members please respond by 00:01 am GMT15th November, as I will be posting the answer then.Ron GauntOn Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:58:57 +0000, you wrote:>Dear Ron,> On my part,I completely endorse your idea...it will serve to sharpen the observation power of the student,to prognosticate,what really took place on that particular day...> A lot of application of all what one has learnt from his experience and observation will come into play,and also the ability to carefully analyse logically,taking the help of many factors,like the position of Moon at the time of the event,the exact DBAS operating at the time..the RPs at the TOJ....etc...> I agree Ron,that this will be a very good exercise...> By the way,I had successfully predicted as follows..." Bush will win surely,but not without some hiccups..."> In case any member is interested I can mail him the horary chart and rhe analysis...> With best wishes,> I am,yours sincerely,> lyrastro1>>rongaunt <rongaunt wrote:>>Punit & members,>>I am certain that there is gold in many of the KP books.>However, they appear to have been written before the general use>of computers. Accordingly examples are not easy to follow,>because they give lists of significators for events, which would>be easy to follow with a computer printout - but not easy from>the limited chart and event details in the books.>>Accordingly I would like to see members attempts to delineate>events. ie. accidents, marriage, childbirth, employment, etc.>>An excellent learning tool is the Blind Chart. Where birth>data is given, and a date or dates. The objective is to>ascertain what happened on this date. This doesn't appeal to>everyone, as we can so easily see our limitations; but for those>of us who are willing to work at it, every such chart is an>excellent learning opportunity - particularly as we can learn>from each others attempt.>>As I have thousands of charts on the Astrodatabank I will be>happy to contribute data if required. And if members would>like to try the Blind Chart idea I will be happy to accept>details from members and post in an orderly fashion at say>2 weekly or monthly intervals, if the List moderator agrees.>>>Ron Gaunt >>>>>>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:41:21 +0530, you wrote:>>>>>Kanak ji,>>>>Yes sure. It is an excellent topic for discussion. We should push it>>for discussion. What I was looking for is a plan for future>>discussion. Now, in my opinion, it is the best time to increase the>>quality of discussion in the forum and make it KP learning and>>research place. And for this, I am looking forward to your and other>>senior members contribution.>>>>Regards,>>>>Punit Pandey>>>>>>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:51:02 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia>><kanbosastro wrote:>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> dear punit ji,>>> >>> topic mention by lajmiji is also good for discussion.(retro. planet)>>> >>> >>> >>> regards>>> >>> kanak>>> >>> >>> >Punit Pandey <punitp >>> > >>> > >>> > Discussion Topics >>> >Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:45:15 +0530 >>> >>> >>> > >>> >Yogesh ji, >>> > >>> >Good effort. We can start discussions on few of the important concepts >>> >of KP. I personally want to discuss "identification of exact events >>> >using natal chart". I also request other members to let me know what >>> >can be the important topics for discussion. >>> > >>> >Regards, >>> > >>> >Punit Pandey >>> > >>> >On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:37:50 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi >>> ><lyrastro1 wrote: >>> > > Dear Members, >>> > > We have all been discussing thus >>> > > far,verifying the correct ascendant,Ruling Planets,and >>> > > other topics... >>> > > I suggest that we discuss,in >>> > > future,some more of the many finer points of K.P.,like >>> > > for example,Retrograde Planets,DRPE(Day Rise Planetary >>> > > Effect)and other newer very easily practicable >>> > > theories, that have emerged through the relentless >>> > > pursuit of Excellence...Let us begin with PLANETS IN >>> > > RETROGRESSION...and their role in PREDICTIVE HORARY >>> > > ASTROLOGY...a bugbear for beginners... >>> > > WHAT DO KSK AND K.P. SAY... ? >>> > > A Planet in retrograde motion,if >>> > > posited in a constellation whose lord is in direct >>> > > motion,after some delay or obstacle,the planet will >>> > > give results,(as per its significations,sub etc.)but >>> > > if it is retrograde and also in a retrograde >>> > > constellation,the planet will give ONLY >>> > > FAILURE...(during its DBA). >>> > > KSK further clarifies that if the >>> > > retrograde planet is in a constellation,whose lord is >>> > > in DIRECT MOTION...it will fructify the result only >>> > > after it turns direct in motion, and then reaches its >>> > > point of retrogression...not before... >>> > > (ALL THE ABOVE APPLIES TO HORARY ONLY.) >>> > > In K.P.,Retrograde planets have not >>> > > been assigned any special/different role to play...in >>> > > Natal Astrology... >>> > > Experiences of all members are >>> > > invited... >>> > > With best wishes, >>> > > lyrastro1 >>> > > GOOD LUCK ! >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > ______________________>>> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online >>> > > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Yogesh, Thanks for starting the ball rolling. If you don't mind I will wait until the 15th Nov before giving the answer so that others can also attempt the BC. Ron Gaunt On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 06:39:38 +0000, you wrote: >Dear Ron, > Am sending you the BC,with my analysis for what it is worth... > Kindly send your valued comments please... > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > >rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: >All Members, > >There has been little reply to the idea of Blind Charts. This >may be due to the fact that Yogesh has already given his support. >Therefore, I enclose the first Blind Chart. I have numbered it >so that if we progress along this path they will be easily >documented for reference purposes. > >If possible it would be preferable for participants to give >reasons for their opinion as a learning aid to other members - up >front. However, if time is at a premium, a simple opinion as to >the event will suffice. But it would be a service to members, >if those who determine the event correctly, will later provide >their reasons. > > >KPBC1 > >Male, >D.O.B. 3 November 1911 >11:48am UT + 00.00 >Ipswich, England >52N04, 001E10 >Asc 13 Sag 09 > >EVENT: > >What took place at Nottingham, England (52N5 001W10) >10th October 1931 at 5:45pm? > >Will participating members please respond by 00:01 am GMT >15th November, as I will be posting the answer then. > > >Ron Gaunt > > > >On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:58:57 +0000, you wrote: > >>Dear Ron, >> On my part,I completely endorse your idea...it will serve to sharpen the observation power of the student,to prognosticate,what really took place on that particular day... >> A lot of application of all what one has learnt from his experience and observation will come into play,and also the ability to carefully analyse logically,taking the help of many factors,like the position of Moon at the time of the event,the exact DBAS operating at the time..the RPs at the TOJ....etc... >> I agree Ron,that this will be a very good exercise... >> By the way,I had successfully predicted as follows... " Bush will win surely,but not without some hiccups... " >> In case any member is interested I can mail him the horary chart and rhe analysis... >> With best wishes, >> I am,yours sincerely, >> lyrastro1 >> >>rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: >> >>Punit & members, >> >>I am certain that there is gold in many of the KP books. >>However, they appear to have been written before the general use >>of computers. Accordingly examples are not easy to follow, >>because they give lists of significators for events, which would >>be easy to follow with a computer printout - but not easy from >>the limited chart and event details in the books. >> >>Accordingly I would like to see members attempts to delineate >>events. ie. accidents, marriage, childbirth, employment, etc. >> >>An excellent learning tool is the Blind Chart. Where birth >>data is given, and a date or dates. The objective is to >>ascertain what happened on this date. This doesn't appeal to >>everyone, as we can so easily see our limitations; but for those >>of us who are willing to work at it, every such chart is an >>excellent learning opportunity - particularly as we can learn >>from each others attempt. >> >>As I have thousands of charts on the Astrodatabank I will be >>happy to contribute data if required. And if members would >>like to try the Blind Chart idea I will be happy to accept >>details from members and post in an orderly fashion at say >>2 weekly or monthly intervals, if the List moderator agrees. >> >> >>Ron Gaunt >> >> >> >> >> >>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:41:21 +0530, you wrote: >> >>> >>>Kanak ji, >>> >>>Yes sure. It is an excellent topic for discussion. We should push it >>>for discussion. What I was looking for is a plan for future >>>discussion. Now, in my opinion, it is the best time to increase the >>>quality of discussion in the forum and make it KP learning and >>>research place. And for this, I am looking forward to your and other >>>senior members contribution. >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Punit Pandey >>> >>> >>>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:51:02 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia >>><kanbosastro wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> dear punit ji, >>>> >>>> topic mention by lajmiji is also good for discussion.(retro. planet) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> regards >>>> >>>> kanak >>>> >>>> >>>> >Punit Pandey <punitp >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Discussion Topics >>>> >Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:45:15 +0530 >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> >Yogesh ji, >>>> > >>>> >Good effort. We can start discussions on few of the important concepts >>>> >of KP. I personally want to discuss " identification of exact events >>>> >using natal chart " . I also request other members to let me know what >>>> >can be the important topics for discussion. >>>> > >>>> >Regards, >>>> > >>>> >Punit Pandey >>>> > >>>> >On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:37:50 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi >>>> ><lyrastro1 wrote: >>>> > > Dear Members, >>>> > > We have all been discussing thus >>>> > > far,verifying the correct ascendant,Ruling Planets,and >>>> > > other topics... >>>> > > I suggest that we discuss,in >>>> > > future,some more of the many finer points of K.P.,like >>>> > > for example,Retrograde Planets,DRPE(Day Rise Planetary >>>> > > Effect)and other newer very easily practicable >>>> > > theories, that have emerged through the relentless >>>> > > pursuit of Excellence...Let us begin with PLANETS IN >>>> > > RETROGRESSION...and their role in PREDICTIVE HORARY >>>> > > ASTROLOGY...a bugbear for beginners... >>>> > > WHAT DO KSK AND K.P. SAY... ? >>>> > > A Planet in retrograde motion,if >>>> > > posited in a constellation whose lord is in direct >>>> > > motion,after some delay or obstacle,the planet will >>>> > > give results,(as per its significations,sub etc.)but >>>> > > if it is retrograde and also in a retrograde >>>> > > constellation,the planet will give ONLY >>>> > > FAILURE...(during its DBA). >>>> > > KSK further clarifies that if the >>>> > > retrograde planet is in a constellation,whose lord is >>>> > > in DIRECT MOTION...it will fructify the result only >>>> > > after it turns direct in motion, and then reaches its >>>> > > point of retrogression...not before... >>>> > > (ALL THE ABOVE APPLIES TO HORARY ONLY.) >>>> > > In K.P.,Retrograde planets have not >>>> > > been assigned any special/different role to play...in >>>> > > Natal Astrology... >>>> > > Experiences of all members are >>>> > > invited... >>>> > > With best wishes, >>>> > > lyrastro1 >>>> > > GOOD LUCK ! >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > ______________________ >>>> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online >>>> > > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Dear Ron Gaunt, My opinion has been sent on the basis of: Male, 3 November 1911, Fr, 11:48 AM UT + 00.00, Ipswich, England, 52N04, 001E10, KPA 22-31-44, Sat Mahadasa bal 14y-8m-15d, Me-Ve-Sa dasa 6 Oct 1931 t0 18 March 1932 Pl Pl D-M RL-SL-S H Bv D-M HL-SL-S 1 Su 197-25 686 9 1 253-03 594 2 Mo 336-21 504 2 2 303-45 036 3 Ma R 46-31 620 3 3 350-31 546 4 Me 203-59 654 10 4 19-42 368 5 Ju 209-18 651 10 5 39-43 616 6 Ve 153-01 410 8 6 56-16 635 0 Sa R 24-45 364 4 7 73-09 484 8 Ra 07-41 395 3 8 123-45 192 9 Ke 187-41 688 9 9 170-31 426 Fo 32-05 615 4 10 199-42 683 11 219-43 306 12 236-16 345 RL= Rasi Lord, HL= House Lord, SL= Star Lord, S= Sub TRASIT on 10th October 1931, Sa, 5:45 PM, Nottingham, England, 52N58, 01W10, KPA 22-48-27 Pl D-M RL-SL-S 1 173-39 433 2 162-12 428 3 203-11 650 4 167-47 424 5 114-36 248 6 182-18 639 0 204-08 564 8 341-50 502 9 161-50 423 Fo 03-10 391 Asc 14-37 366 Best regards, tw , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > Yogesh, > > Thanks for starting the ball rolling. If you don't mind I will > wait until the 15th Nov before giving the answer so that others > can also attempt the BC. > > > Ron Gaunt > > > > > On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 06:39:38 +0000, you wrote: > > >Dear Ron, > > Am sending you the BC,with my analysis for what it is worth... > > Kindly send your valued comments please... > > Yours sincerely, > > lyrastro1 > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > >rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > >All Members, > > > >There has been little reply to the idea of Blind Charts. This > >may be due to the fact that Yogesh has already given his support. > >Therefore, I enclose the first Blind Chart. I have numbered it > >so that if we progress along this path they will be easily > >documented for reference purposes. > > > >If possible it would be preferable for participants to give > >reasons for their opinion as a learning aid to other members - up > >front. However, if time is at a premium, a simple opinion as to > >the event will suffice. But it would be a service to members, > >if those who determine the event correctly, will later provide > >their reasons. > > > > > >KPBC1 > > > >Male, > >D.O.B. 3 November 1911 > >11:48am UT + 00.00 > >Ipswich, England > >52N04, 001E10 > >Asc 13 Sag 09 > > > >EVENT: > > > >What took place at Nottingham, England (52N5 001W10) > >10th October 1931 at 5:45pm? > > > >Will participating members please respond by 00:01 am GMT > >15th November, as I will be posting the answer then. > > > > > >Ron Gaunt > > > > > > > >On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:58:57 +0000, you wrote: > > > >>Dear Ron, > >> On my part,I completely endorse your idea...it will serve to sharpen the observation power of the student,to prognosticate,what really took place on that particular day... > >> A lot of application of all what one has learnt from his experience and observation will come into play,and also the ability to carefully analyse logically,taking the help of many factors,like the position of Moon at the time of the event,the exact DBAS operating at the time..the RPs at the TOJ....etc... > >> I agree Ron,that this will be a very good exercise... > >> By the way,I had successfully predicted as follows... " Bush will win surely,but not without some hiccups... " > >> In case any member is interested I can mail him the horary chart and rhe analysis... > >> With best wishes, > >> I am,yours sincerely, > >> lyrastro1 > >> > >>rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > >> > >>Punit & members, > >> > >>I am certain that there is gold in many of the KP books. > >>However, they appear to have been written before the general use > >>of computers. Accordingly examples are not easy to follow, > >>because they give lists of significators for events, which would > >>be easy to follow with a computer printout - but not easy from > >>the limited chart and event details in the books. > >> > >>Accordingly I would like to see members attempts to delineate > >>events. ie. accidents, marriage, childbirth, employment, etc. > >> > >>An excellent learning tool is the Blind Chart. Where birth > >>data is given, and a date or dates. The objective is to > >>ascertain what happened on this date. This doesn't appeal to > >>everyone, as we can so easily see our limitations; but for those > >>of us who are willing to work at it, every such chart is an > >>excellent learning opportunity - particularly as we can learn > >>from each others attempt. > >> > >>As I have thousands of charts on the Astrodatabank I will be > >>happy to contribute data if required. And if members would > >>like to try the Blind Chart idea I will be happy to accept > >>details from members and post in an orderly fashion at say > >>2 weekly or monthly intervals, if the List moderator agrees. > >> > >> > >>Ron Gaunt > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:41:21 +0530, you wrote: > >> > >>> > >>>Kanak ji, > >>> > >>>Yes sure. It is an excellent topic for discussion. We should push it > >>>for discussion. What I was looking for is a plan for future > >>>discussion. Now, in my opinion, it is the best time to increase the > >>>quality of discussion in the forum and make it KP learning and > >>>research place. And for this, I am looking forward to your and other > >>>senior members contribution. > >>> > >>>Regards, > >>> > >>>Punit Pandey > >>> > >>> > >>>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:51:02 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia > >>><kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> dear punit ji, > >>>> > >>>> topic mention by lajmiji is also good for discussion.(retro. planet) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> regards > >>>> > >>>> kanak > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > Discussion Topics > >>>> >Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:45:15 +0530 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> >Yogesh ji, > >>>> > > >>>> >Good effort. We can start discussions on few of the important concepts > >>>> >of KP. I personally want to discuss " identification of exact events > >>>> >using natal chart " . I also request other members to let me know what > >>>> >can be the important topics for discussion. > >>>> > > >>>> >Regards, > >>>> > > >>>> >Punit Pandey > >>>> > > >>>> >On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:37:50 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi > >>>> ><lyrastro1> wrote: > >>>> > > Dear Members, > >>>> > > We have all been discussing thus > >>>> > > far,verifying the correct ascendant,Ruling Planets,and > >>>> > > other topics... > >>>> > > I suggest that we discuss,in > >>>> > > future,some more of the many finer points of K.P.,like > >>>> > > for example,Retrograde Planets,DRPE(Day Rise Planetary > >>>> > > Effect)and other newer very easily practicable > >>>> > > theories, that have emerged through the relentless > >>>> > > pursuit of Excellence...Let us begin with PLANETS IN > >>>> > > RETROGRESSION...and their role in PREDICTIVE HORARY > >>>> > > ASTROLOGY...a bugbear for beginners... > >>>> > > WHAT DO KSK AND K.P. SAY... ? > >>>> > > A Planet in retrograde motion,if > >>>> > > posited in a constellation whose lord is in direct > >>>> > > motion,after some delay or obstacle,the planet will > >>>> > > give results,(as per its significations,sub etc.)but > >>>> > > if it is retrograde and also in a retrograde > >>>> > > constellation,the planet will give ONLY > >>>> > > FAILURE...(during its DBA). > >>>> > > KSK further clarifies that if the > >>>> > > retrograde planet is in a constellation,whose lord is > >>>> > > in DIRECT MOTION...it will fructify the result only > >>>> > > after it turns direct in motion, and then reaches its > >>>> > > point of retrogression...not before... > >>>> > > (ALL THE ABOVE APPLIES TO HORARY ONLY.) > >>>> > > In K.P.,Retrograde planets have not > >>>> > > been assigned any special/different role to play...in > >>>> > > Natal Astrology... > >>>> > > Experiences of all members are > >>>> > > invited... > >>>> > > With best wishes, > >>>> > > lyrastro1 > >>>> > > GOOD LUCK ! > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > ____________________ __ > >>>> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online > >>>> > > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Punit, Chart etc is attached. As this is the first time I have tried this please let me know if there are any problems. Ron Gaunt On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 22:53:02 +0530, you wrote: > >Better you can post the KP chart itself. > > >On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:41:28 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi ><lyrastro1 wrote: >> >> Dear Ron, >> Thank you...I will take a 3-4 days,in the meanwhile kindly >> send me the Long.and Lat. of Ipswitch...I do not know if my software has it >> in its memory... >> Thank you... >> Yours sincerely, >> lyrastro1 >> GOOD LUCK ! >> >> >> >> rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: >> >> >> All Members, >> >> There has been little reply to the idea of Blind Charts. This >> may be due to the fact that Yogesh has already given his support. >> Therefore, I enclose the first Blind Chart. I have numbered it >> so that if we progress along this path they will be easily >> documented for reference purposes. >> >> If possible it would be preferable for participants to give >> reasons for their opinion as a learning aid to other members - up >> front. However, if time is at a premium, a simple opinion as to >> the event will suffice. But it would be a service to members, >> if those who determine the event correctly, will later provide >> their reasons. >> >> >> KPBC1 >> >> Male, >> D.O.B. 3 November 1911 >> 11:48am UT + 00.00 >> Ipswich, England >> 52N04, 001E10 >> Asc 13 Sag 09 >> >> EVENT: >> >> What took place at Nottingham, England (52N5 001W10) >> 10th October 1931 at 5:45pm? >> >> Will participating members please respond by 00:01 am GMT >> 15th November, as I will be posting the answer then. >> >> >> Ron Gaunt >> >> >> >> On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:58:57 +0000, you wrote: >> >> >Dear Ron, >> > On my part,I completely endorse your idea...it will serve to >> sharpen the observation power of the student,to prognosticate,what really >> took place on that particular day... >> > A lot of application of all what one has learnt from his >> experience and observation will come into play,and also the ability to >> carefully analyse logically,taking the help of many factors,like the >> position of Moon at the time of the event,the exact DBAS operating at the >> time..the RPs at the TOJ....etc... >> > I agree Ron,that this will be a very good exercise... >> > By the way,I had successfully predicted as follows... " Bush >> will win surely,but not without some hiccups... " >> > In case any member is interested I can mail him the horary >> chart and rhe analysis... >> > With best wishes, >> > I am,yours sincerely, >> > lyrastro1 >> > >> >rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: >> > >> >Punit & members, >> > >> >I am certain that there is gold in many of the KP books. >> >However, they appear to have been written before the general use >> >of computers. Accordingly examples are not easy to follow, >> >because they give lists of significators for events, which would >> >be easy to follow with a computer printout - but not easy from >> >the limited chart and event details in the books. >> > >> >Accordingly I would like to see members attempts to delineate >> >events. ie. accidents, marriage, childbirth, employment, etc. >> > >> >An excellent learning tool is the Blind Chart. Where birth >> >data is given, and a date or dates. The objective is to >> >ascertain what happened on this date. This doesn't appeal to >> >everyone, as we can so easily see our limitations; but for those >> >of us who are willing to work at it, every such chart is an >> >excellent learning opportunity - particularly as we can learn >> >from each others attempt. >> > >> >As I have thousands of charts on the Astrodatabank I will be >> >happy to contribute data if required. And if members would >> >like to try the Blind Chart idea I will be happy to accept >> >details from members and post in an orderly fashion at say >> >2 weekly or monthly intervals, if the List moderator agrees. >> > >> > >> >Ron Gaunt >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:41:21 +0530, you wrote: >> > >> >> >> >>Kanak ji, >> >> >> >>Yes sure. It is an excellent topic for discussion. We should push it >> >>for discussion. What I was looking for is a plan for future >> >>discussion. Now, in my opinion, it is the best time to increase the >> >>quality of discussion in the forum and make it KP learning and >> >>research place. And for this, I am looking forward to your and other >> >>senior members contribution. >> >> >> >>Regards, >> >> >> >>Punit Pandey >> >> >> >> >> >>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:51:02 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia >> >><kanbosastro wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> dear punit ji, >> >>> >> >>> topic mention by lajmiji is also good for discussion.(retro. planet) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> regards >> >>> >> >>> kanak >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >Punit Pandey <punitp >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Discussion Topics >> >>> >Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:45:15 +0530 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >> >>> >Yogesh ji, >> >>> > >> >>> >Good effort. We can start discussions on few of the important concepts >> >>> >of KP. I personally want to discuss " identification of exact events >> >>> >using natal chart " . I also request other members to let me know what >> >>> >can be the important topics for discussion. >> >>> > >> >>> >Regards, >> >>> > >> >>> >Punit Pandey >> >>> > >> >>> >On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:37:50 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi >> >>> ><lyrastro1 wrote: >> >>> > > Dear Members, >> >>> > > We have all been discussing thus >> >>> > > far,verifying the correct ascendant,Ruling Planets,and >> >>> > > other topics... >> >>> > > I suggest that we discuss,in >> >>> > > future,some more of the many finer points of K.P.,like >> >>> > > for example,Retrograde Planets,DRPE(Day Rise Planetary >> >>> > > Effect)and other newer very easily practicable >> >>> > > theories, that have emerged through the relentless >> >>> > > pursuit of Excellence...Let us begin with PLANETS IN >> >>> > > RETROGRESSION...and their role in PREDICTIVE HORARY >> >>> > > ASTROLOGY...a bugbear for beginners... >> >>> > > WHAT DO KSK AND K.P. SAY... ? >> >>> > > A Planet in retrograde motion,if >> >>> > > posited in a constellation whose lord is in direct >> >>> > > motion,after some delay or obstacle,the planet will >> >>> > > give results,(as per its significations,sub etc.)but >> >>> > > if it is retrograde and also in a retrograde >> >>> > > constellation,the planet will give ONLY >> >>> > > FAILURE...(during its DBA). >> >>> > > KSK further clarifies that if the >> >>> > > retrograde planet is in a constellation,whose lord is >> >>> > > in DIRECT MOTION...it will fructify the result only >> >>> > > after it turns direct in motion, and then reaches its >> >>> > > point of retrogression...not before... >> >>> > > (ALL THE ABOVE APPLIES TO HORARY ONLY.) >> >>> > > In K.P.,Retrograde planets have not >> >>> > > been assigned any special/different role to play...in >> >>> > > Natal Astrology... >> >>> > > Experiences of all members are >> >>> > > invited... >> >>> > > With best wishes, >> >>> > > lyrastro1 >> >>> > > GOOD LUCK ! >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> ______________________ >> >>> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online >> >>> > > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Dear Ron Gaunt, I don't see the attachment. Best regards, tw , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > > Punit, > > Chart etc is attached. As this is the first time I have tried > this please let me know if there are any problems. > > > Ron Gaunt > > > > On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 22:53:02 +0530, you wrote: > > > > >Better you can post the KP chart itself. > > > > > >On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:41:28 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi > ><lyrastro1> wrote: > >> > >> Dear Ron, > >> Thank you...I will take a 3-4 days,in the meanwhile kindly > >> send me the Long.and Lat. of Ipswitch...I do not know if my software has it > >> in its memory... > >> Thank you... > >> Yours sincerely, > >> lyrastro1 > >> GOOD LUCK ! > >> > >> > >> > >> rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > >> > >> > >> All Members, > >> > >> There has been little reply to the idea of Blind Charts. This > >> may be due to the fact that Yogesh has already given his support. > >> Therefore, I enclose the first Blind Chart. I have numbered it > >> so that if we progress along this path they will be easily > >> documented for reference purposes. > >> > >> If possible it would be preferable for participants to give > >> reasons for their opinion as a learning aid to other members - up > >> front. However, if time is at a premium, a simple opinion as to > >> the event will suffice. But it would be a service to members, > >> if those who determine the event correctly, will later provide > >> their reasons. > >> > >> > >> KPBC1 > >> > >> Male, > >> D.O.B. 3 November 1911 > >> 11:48am UT + 00.00 > >> Ipswich, England > >> 52N04, 001E10 > >> Asc 13 Sag 09 > >> > >> EVENT: > >> > >> What took place at Nottingham, England (52N5 001W10) > >> 10th October 1931 at 5:45pm? > >> > >> Will participating members please respond by 00:01 am GMT > >> 15th November, as I will be posting the answer then. > >> > >> > >> Ron Gaunt > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:58:57 +0000, you wrote: > >> > >> >Dear Ron, > >> > On my part,I completely endorse your idea...it will serve to > >> sharpen the observation power of the student,to prognosticate,what really > >> took place on that particular day... > >> > A lot of application of all what one has learnt from his > >> experience and observation will come into play,and also the ability to > >> carefully analyse logically,taking the help of many factors,like the > >> position of Moon at the time of the event,the exact DBAS operating at the > >> time..the RPs at the TOJ....etc... > >> > I agree Ron,that this will be a very good exercise... > >> > By the way,I had successfully predicted as follows... " Bush > >> will win surely,but not without some hiccups... " > >> > In case any member is interested I can mail him the horary > >> chart and rhe analysis... > >> > With best wishes, > >> > I am,yours sincerely, > >> > lyrastro1 > >> > > >> >rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > >> > > >> >Punit & members, > >> > > >> >I am certain that there is gold in many of the KP books. > >> >However, they appear to have been written before the general use > >> >of computers. Accordingly examples are not easy to follow, > >> >because they give lists of significators for events, which would > >> >be easy to follow with a computer printout - but not easy from > >> >the limited chart and event details in the books. > >> > > >> >Accordingly I would like to see members attempts to delineate > >> >events. ie. accidents, marriage, childbirth, employment, etc. > >> > > >> >An excellent learning tool is the Blind Chart. Where birth > >> >data is given, and a date or dates. The objective is to > >> >ascertain what happened on this date. This doesn't appeal to > >> >everyone, as we can so easily see our limitations; but for those > >> >of us who are willing to work at it, every such chart is an > >> >excellent learning opportunity - particularly as we can learn > >> >from each others attempt. > >> > > >> >As I have thousands of charts on the Astrodatabank I will be > >> >happy to contribute data if required. And if members would > >> >like to try the Blind Chart idea I will be happy to accept > >> >details from members and post in an orderly fashion at say > >> >2 weekly or monthly intervals, if the List moderator agrees. > >> > > >> > > >> >Ron Gaunt > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:41:21 +0530, you wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >>Kanak ji, > >> >> > >> >>Yes sure. It is an excellent topic for discussion. We should push it > >> >>for discussion. What I was looking for is a plan for future > >> >>discussion. Now, in my opinion, it is the best time to increase the > >> >>quality of discussion in the forum and make it KP learning and > >> >>research place. And for this, I am looking forward to your and other > >> >>senior members contribution. > >> >> > >> >>Regards, > >> >> > >> >>Punit Pandey > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:51:02 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia > >> >><kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> dear punit ji, > >> >>> > >> >>> topic mention by lajmiji is also good for discussion.(retro. planet) > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> regards > >> >>> > >> >>> kanak > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Discussion Topics > >> >>> >Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:45:15 +0530 > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > >> >>> >Yogesh ji, > >> >>> > > >> >>> >Good effort. We can start discussions on few of the important concepts > >> >>> >of KP. I personally want to discuss " identification of exact events > >> >>> >using natal chart " . I also request other members to let me know what > >> >>> >can be the important topics for discussion. > >> >>> > > >> >>> >Regards, > >> >>> > > >> >>> >Punit Pandey > >> >>> > > >> >>> >On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:37:50 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi > >> >>> ><lyrastro1> wrote: > >> >>> > > Dear Members, > >> >>> > > We have all been discussing thus > >> >>> > > far,verifying the correct ascendant,Ruling Planets,and > >> >>> > > other topics... > >> >>> > > I suggest that we discuss,in > >> >>> > > future,some more of the many finer points of K.P.,like > >> >>> > > for example,Retrograde Planets,DRPE(Day Rise Planetary > >> >>> > > Effect)and other newer very easily practicable > >> >>> > > theories, that have emerged through the relentless > >> >>> > > pursuit of Excellence...Let us begin with PLANETS IN > >> >>> > > RETROGRESSION...and their role in PREDICTIVE HORARY > >> >>> > > ASTROLOGY...a bugbear for beginners... > >> >>> > > WHAT DO KSK AND K.P. SAY... ? > >> >>> > > A Planet in retrograde motion,if > >> >>> > > posited in a constellation whose lord is in direct > >> >>> > > motion,after some delay or obstacle,the planet will > >> >>> > > give results,(as per its significations,sub etc.)but > >> >>> > > if it is retrograde and also in a retrograde > >> >>> > > constellation,the planet will give ONLY > >> >>> > > FAILURE...(during its DBA). > >> >>> > > KSK further clarifies that if the > >> >>> > > retrograde planet is in a constellation,whose lord is > >> >>> > > in DIRECT MOTION...it will fructify the result only > >> >>> > > after it turns direct in motion, and then reaches its > >> >>> > > point of retrogression...not before... > >> >>> > > (ALL THE ABOVE APPLIES TO HORARY ONLY.) > >> >>> > > In K.P.,Retrograde planets have not > >> >>> > > been assigned any special/different role to play...in > >> >>> > > Natal Astrology... > >> >>> > > Experiences of all members are > >> >>> > > invited... > >> >>> > > With best wishes, > >> >>> > > lyrastro1 > >> >>> > > GOOD LUCK ! > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> ____________________ __ > >> >>> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online > >> >>> > > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Ron Gaunt ji, I am able to download the word file without any problem. Regards, Punit Pandey On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 15:13:49 +1000, rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > > Punit, > > Chart etc is attached. As this is the first time I have tried > this please let me know if there are any problems. > > > > > Ron Gaunt > > > > On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 22:53:02 +0530, you wrote: > > > > >Better you can post the KP chart itself. > > > > > >On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:41:28 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi > ><lyrastro1 wrote: > >> > >> Dear Ron, > >> Thank you...I will take a 3-4 days,in the meanwhile kindly > >> send me the Long.and Lat. of Ipswitch...I do not know if my software has > it > >> in its memory... > >> Thank you... > >> Yours sincerely, > >> lyrastro1 > >> GOOD LUCK ! > >> > >> > >> > >> rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > >> > >> > >> All Members, > >> > >> There has been little reply to the idea of Blind Charts. This > >> may be due to the fact that Yogesh has already given his support. > >> Therefore, I enclose the first Blind Chart. I have numbered it > >> so that if we progress along this path they will be easily > >> documented for reference purposes. > >> > >> If possible it would be preferable for participants to give > >> reasons for their opinion as a learning aid to other members - up > >> front. However, if time is at a premium, a simple opinion as to > >> the event will suffice. But it would be a service to members, > >> if those who determine the event correctly, will later provide > >> their reasons. > >> > >> > >> KPBC1 > >> > >> Male, > >> D.O.B. 3 November 1911 > >> 11:48am UT + 00.00 > >> Ipswich, England > >> 52N04, 001E10 > >> Asc 13 Sag 09 > >> > >> EVENT: > >> > >> What took place at Nottingham, England (52N5 001W10) > >> 10th October 1931 at 5:45pm? > >> > >> Will participating members please respond by 00:01 am GMT > >> 15th November, as I will be posting the answer then. > >> > >> > >> Ron Gaunt > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:58:57 +0000, you wrote: > >> > >> >Dear Ron, > >> > On my part,I completely endorse your idea...it will serve > to > >> sharpen the observation power of the student,to prognosticate,what really > >> took place on that particular day... > >> > A lot of application of all what one has learnt from his > >> experience and observation will come into play,and also the ability to > >> carefully analyse logically,taking the help of many factors,like the > >> position of Moon at the time of the event,the exact DBAS operating at the > >> time..the RPs at the TOJ....etc... > >> > I agree Ron,that this will be a very good exercise... > >> > By the way,I had successfully predicted as follows... " > Bush > >> will win surely,but not without some hiccups... " > >> > In case any member is interested I can mail him the horary > >> chart and rhe analysis... > >> > With best wishes, > >> > I am,yours sincerely, > >> > lyrastro1 > >> > > >> >rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > >> > > >> >Punit & members, > >> > > >> >I am certain that there is gold in many of the KP books. > >> >However, they appear to have been written before the general use > >> >of computers. Accordingly examples are not easy to follow, > >> >because they give lists of significators for events, which would > >> >be easy to follow with a computer printout - but not easy from > >> >the limited chart and event details in the books. > >> > > >> >Accordingly I would like to see members attempts to delineate > >> >events. ie. accidents, marriage, childbirth, employment, etc. > >> > > >> >An excellent learning tool is the Blind Chart. Where birth > >> >data is given, and a date or dates. The objective is to > >> >ascertain what happened on this date. This doesn't appeal to > >> >everyone, as we can so easily see our limitations; but for those > >> >of us who are willing to work at it, every such chart is an > >> >excellent learning opportunity - particularly as we can learn > >> >from each others attempt. > >> > > >> >As I have thousands of charts on the Astrodatabank I will be > >> >happy to contribute data if required. And if members would > >> >like to try the Blind Chart idea I will be happy to accept > >> >details from members and post in an orderly fashion at say > >> >2 weekly or monthly intervals, if the List moderator agrees. > >> > > >> > > >> >Ron Gaunt > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:41:21 +0530, you wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >>Kanak ji, > >> >> > >> >>Yes sure. It is an excellent topic for discussion. We should push it > >> >>for discussion. What I was looking for is a plan for future > >> >>discussion. Now, in my opinion, it is the best time to increase the > >> >>quality of discussion in the forum and make it KP learning and > >> >>research place. And for this, I am looking forward to your and other > >> >>senior members contribution. > >> >> > >> >>Regards, > >> >> > >> >>Punit Pandey > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:51:02 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia > >> >><kanbosastro wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> dear punit ji, > >> >>> > >> >>> topic mention by lajmiji is also good for discussion.(retro. planet) > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> regards > >> >>> > >> >>> kanak > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >Punit Pandey <punitp > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Discussion Topics > >> >>> >Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:45:15 +0530 > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > > >> >>> >Yogesh ji, > >> >>> > > >> >>> >Good effort. We can start discussions on few of the important > concepts > >> >>> >of KP. I personally want to discuss " identification of exact events > >> >>> >using natal chart " . I also request other members to let me know what > >> >>> >can be the important topics for discussion. > >> >>> > > >> >>> >Regards, > >> >>> > > >> >>> >Punit Pandey > >> >>> > > >> >>> >On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:37:50 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi > >> >>> ><lyrastro1 wrote: > >> >>> > > Dear Members, > >> >>> > > We have all been discussing thus > >> >>> > > far,verifying the correct ascendant,Ruling Planets,and > >> >>> > > other topics... > >> >>> > > I suggest that we discuss,in > >> >>> > > future,some more of the many finer points of K.P.,like > >> >>> > > for example,Retrograde Planets,DRPE(Day Rise Planetary > >> >>> > > Effect)and other newer very easily practicable > >> >>> > > theories, that have emerged through the relentless > >> >>> > > pursuit of Excellence...Let us begin with PLANETS IN > >> >>> > > RETROGRESSION...and their role in PREDICTIVE HORARY > >> >>> > > ASTROLOGY...a bugbear for beginners... > >> >>> > > WHAT DO KSK AND K.P. SAY... ? > >> >>> > > A Planet in retrograde motion,if > >> >>> > > posited in a constellation whose lord is in direct > >> >>> > > motion,after some delay or obstacle,the planet will > >> >>> > > give results,(as per its significations,sub etc.)but > >> >>> > > if it is retrograde and also in a retrograde > >> >>> > > constellation,the planet will give ONLY > >> >>> > > FAILURE...(during its DBA). > >> >>> > > KSK further clarifies that if the > >> >>> > > retrograde planet is in a constellation,whose lord is > >> >>> > > in DIRECT MOTION...it will fructify the result only > >> >>> > > after it turns direct in motion, and then reaches its > >> >>> > > point of retrogression...not before... > >> >>> > > (ALL THE ABOVE APPLIES TO HORARY ONLY.) > >> >>> > > In K.P.,Retrograde planets have not > >> >>> > > been assigned any special/different role to play...in > >> >>> > > Natal Astrology... > >> >>> > > Experiences of all members are > >> >>> > > invited... > >> >>> > > With best wishes, > >> >>> > > lyrastro1 > >> >>> > > GOOD LUCK ! > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> ______________________ > >> >>> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online > >> >>> > > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Dear Punit ji, My MSN says that file infected with virus. regards kanak bosmia >Punit Pandey <punitp > > >Re: KPBC 1 >Sun, 7 Nov 2004 18:28:52 +0530 > >Ron Gaunt ji, > >I am able to download the word file without any problem. > >Regards, > >Punit Pandey > > >On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 15:13:49 +1000, rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > > > > Punit, > > > > Chart etc is attached. As this is the first time I have tried > > this please let me know if there are any problems. > > > > > > > > > > Ron Gaunt > > > > > > > > On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 22:53:02 +0530, you wrote: > > > > > > > >Better you can post the KP chart itself. > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:41:28 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > ><lyrastro1 wrote: > > >> > > >> Dear Ron, > > >> Thank you...I will take a 3-4 days,in the meanwhile kindly > > >> send me the Long.and Lat. of Ipswitch...I do not know if my software has > > it > > >> in its memory... > > >> Thank you... > > >> Yours sincerely, > > >> lyrastro1 > > >> GOOD LUCK ! > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> All Members, > > >> > > >> There has been little reply to the idea of Blind Charts. This > > >> may be due to the fact that Yogesh has already given his support. > > >> Therefore, I enclose the first Blind Chart. I have numbered it > > >> so that if we progress along this path they will be easily > > >> documented for reference purposes. > > >> > > >> If possible it would be preferable for participants to give > > >> reasons for their opinion as a learning aid to other members - up > > >> front. However, if time is at a premium, a simple opinion as to > > >> the event will suffice. But it would be a service to members, > > >> if those who determine the event correctly, will later provide > > >> their reasons. > > >> > > >> > > >> KPBC1 > > >> > > >> Male, > > >> D.O.B. 3 November 1911 > > >> 11:48am UT + 00.00 > > >> Ipswich, England > > >> 52N04, 001E10 > > >> Asc 13 Sag 09 > > >> > > >> EVENT: > > >> > > >> What took place at Nottingham, England (52N5 001W10) > > >> 10th October 1931 at 5:45pm? > > >> > > >> Will participating members please respond by 00:01 am GMT > > >> 15th November, as I will be posting the answer then. > > >> > > >> > > >> Ron Gaunt > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:58:57 +0000, you wrote: > > >> > > >> >Dear Ron, > > >> > On my part,I completely endorse your idea...it will serve > > to > > >> sharpen the observation power of the student,to prognosticate,what really > > >> took place on that particular day... > > >> > A lot of application of all what one has learnt from his > > >> experience and observation will come into play,and also the ability to > > >> carefully analyse logically,taking the help of many factors,like the > > >> position of Moon at the time of the event,the exact DBAS operating at the > > >> time..the RPs at the TOJ....etc... > > >> > I agree Ron,that this will be a very good exercise... > > >> > By the way,I had successfully predicted as follows..." > > Bush > > >> will win surely,but not without some hiccups..." > > >> > In case any member is interested I can mail him the horary > > >> chart and rhe analysis... > > >> > With best wishes, > > >> > I am,yours sincerely, > > >> > lyrastro1 > > >> > > > >> >rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > > >> > > > >> >Punit & members, > > >> > > > >> >I am certain that there is gold in many of the KP books. > > >> >However, they appear to have been written before the general use > > >> >of computers. Accordingly examples are not easy to follow, > > >> >because they give lists of significators for events, which would > > >> >be easy to follow with a computer printout - but not easy from > > >> >the limited chart and event details in the books. > > >> > > > >> >Accordingly I would like to see members attempts to delineate > > >> >events. ie. accidents, marriage, childbirth, employment, etc. > > >> > > > >> >An excellent learning tool is the Blind Chart. Where birth > > >> >data is given, and a date or dates. The objective is to > > >> >ascertain what happened on this date. This doesn't appeal to > > >> >everyone, as we can so easily see our limitations; but for those > > >> >of us who are willing to work at it, every such chart is an > > >> >excellent learning opportunity - particularly as we can learn > > >> >from each others attempt. > > >> > > > >> >As I have thousands of charts on the Astrodatabank I will be > > >> >happy to contribute data if required. And if members would > > >> >like to try the Blind Chart idea I will be happy to accept > > >> >details from members and post in an orderly fashion at say > > >> >2 weekly or monthly intervals, if the List moderator agrees. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >Ron Gaunt > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:41:21 +0530, you wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> > > >> >>Kanak ji, > > >> >> > > >> >>Yes sure. It is an excellent topic for discussion. We should push it > > >> >>for discussion. What I was looking for is a plan for future > > >> >>discussion. Now, in my opinion, it is the best time to increase the > > >> >>quality of discussion in the forum and make it KP learning and > > >> >>research place. And for this, I am looking forward to your and other > > >> >>senior members contribution. > > >> >> > > >> >>Regards, > > >> >> > > >> >>Punit Pandey > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:51:02 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia > > >> >><kanbosastro wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> dear punit ji, > > >> >>> > > >> >>> topic mention by lajmiji is also good for discussion.(retro. planet) > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> regards > > >> >>> > > >> >>> kanak > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> >Punit Pandey <punitp > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > Discussion Topics > > >> >>> >Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:45:15 +0530 > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> >Yogesh ji, > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> >Good effort. We can start discussions on few of the important > > concepts > > >> >>> >of KP. I personally want to discuss "identification of exact events > > >> >>> >using natal chart". I also request other members to let me know what > > >> >>> >can be the important topics for discussion. > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> >Regards, > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> >Punit Pandey > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> >On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:37:50 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > >> >>> ><lyrastro1 wrote: > > >> >>> > > Dear Members, > > >> >>> > > We have all been discussing thus > > >> >>> > > far,verifying the correct ascendant,Ruling Planets,and > > >> >>> > > other topics... > > >> >>> > > I suggest that we discuss,in > > >> >>> > > future,some more of the many finer points of K.P.,like > > >> >>> > > for example,Retrograde Planets,DRPE(Day Rise Planetary > > >> >>> > > Effect)and other newer very easily practicable > > >> >>> > > theories, that have emerged through the relentless > > >> >>> > > pursuit of Excellence...Let us begin with PLANETS IN > > >> >>> > > RETROGRESSION...and their role in PREDICTIVE HORARY > > >> >>> > > ASTROLOGY...a bugbear for beginners... > > >> >>> > > WHAT DO KSK AND K.P. SAY... ? > > >> >>> > > A Planet in retrograde motion,if > > >> >>> > > posited in a constellation whose lord is in direct > > >> >>> > > motion,after some delay or obstacle,the planet will > > >> >>> > > give results,(as per its significations,sub etc.)but > > >> >>> > > if it is retrograde and also in a retrograde > > >> >>> > > constellation,the planet will give ONLY > > >> >>> > > FAILURE...(during its DBA). > > >> >>> > > KSK further clarifies that if the > > >> >>> > > retrograde planet is in a constellation,whose lord is > > >> >>> > > in DIRECT MOTION...it will fructify the result only > > >> >>> > > after it turns direct in motion, and then reaches its > > >> >>> > > point of retrogression...not before... > > >> >>> > > (ALL THE ABOVE APPLIES TO HORARY ONLY.) > > >> >>> > > In K.P.,Retrograde planets have not > > >> >>> > > been assigned any special/different role to play...in > > >> >>> > > Natal Astrology... > > >> >>> > > Experiences of all members are > > >> >>> > > invited... > > >> >>> > > With best wishes, > > >> >>> > > lyrastro1 > > >> >>> > > GOOD LUCK ! > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> ______________________ > > >> >>> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online > > >> >>> > > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Dear Friends, PLEAS COPY CHART AND PEST IN TO NOTE-PAD SELECT FONT COURIER NEW AND FONT SIZE 10 BOLD. YOU CAN READ CHART. : JAY MAI GADHECHI MA : No. 28 Sahakar 2- Jagabhai Park Rambaug: Maninagar AHMEDABAD 380 008 TEL: 079-25431165MOBILE: 9825131165 email: kanbosastro BIRTH DETAILS OF REF NO KPBC1 DETAILS OF BIRTH CHART DATE : 3 11 1911 OTHER USEFUL INFORMATION DAY : FRIDAY RASI : MEENA TIME : 11 H. 48 M. 0 S. STAR : U.Bha PLACE : IPSWICH ENGLAND; CHARANA : FIRST COUNTRY :UK * NADI : ANTYA YONI : GAJA LAT. : 52 Deg. 6 Min. N GANA : DEVA LONG. : 1 Deg. 10 Min. E VARNA : VIPRA LAGNA. : Sagitarius-Dhanu TATWA : JALA LORD : Jup VASHYA : JALACHAR RASI : Pisces-Meena LORD : Jup GHATACHAKRA [MALEFICS] NAKSHATRA : U.Bha 1 - Pada MONTH : FALGUNA NAK.LORD : Sat TITHI : 5-10-15 TITHI : KARTEEK: 12: SAMVAT 1967 DAY : SHUKRAVAR SID.TIME : 14 H. 39 M. 10 S. STAR : ASHLESHA AYANAMSA : 22 D. 32 M. 10 S. PRAHARA : 4th SUN SIGN : SCORPIO (Sayana) CHANDRA : 12th Cast By Kanakkumar.B. Bosmia ON 05-11-2004 Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77 ASTROLOGER:Kanakkumar.B. Bosmia:Tel:079-25431165 BIRTH DETAILS OF TRADITIONAL BIRTH CHART: PLANETS WITH + ARE RETROGRADE NAKSHATRA: U.Bha- PADA 1 DASA BAL. Sat. 14 Y. 263 Days ENDS ON 24 7 1926 *----------------*----------------*----------------*----------------* | * URAN * * * | | 11 * * 9 * * 7 | | * 10 * * 8 * SUN. MERC | | * * JUP. KETU | | * * * * | | * 12 * * 6 * | | * * * * | * MOON * VEN. * | * * * * | | 1 * * 3 * * 5 | |SAT+ RAHU * * * * | | * PLU+ * | | * 2 * * 4 * | | * MAR+ FOR. * * NEP+ * | | * * * * | *----------------*----------------*----------------*----------------* TRADITIONAL NAVAMASA CHART *----------------*----------------*----------------*----------------* | * * * NEPT * | | 7 * * 5 * * 3 | | * 6 * * 4 * JUP. RAHU | | * MOON * | | * * * * | | * 8 * * 2 * | | * * * * | * SAT. PLUT * MARS MERC * | * * * * | | 9 * * 11 * * 1 | |KETU * * * * | | * * | | * 10 * * 12 * | | * VEN. URAN FOR. * * SUN. * | | * * * * | *----------------*----------------*----------------*----------------* Programme by RAICHUR 8/147 GARODIANAGAR BOMBAY-77 ASTROLOGER:Kanakkumar.B. Bosmia Tel:079-25431165 DASAS TO BE ENJOYED BY VIMSOTTARI DASAS --- BHUKTIES Sat DASA 22 07 1907 -> 22 07 1926 |Mer DASA 22 07 1926 -> 22 07 1943 |Mer Bhk. 22 07 1926 -> 19 12 1928 Mer Bhk. 03 11 1911 -> 04 04 1913 |Ket Bhk. 19 12 1928 -> 16 12 1929 Ket Bhk. 04 04 1913 -> 13 05 1914 |Ven Bhk. 16 12 1929 -> 16 10 1932 Ven Bhk. 13 05 1914 -> 13 07 1917 |Sun Bhk. 16 10 1932 -> 22 08 1933 Sun Bhk. 13 07 1917 -> 25 06 1918 |Moo Bhk. 22 08 1933 -> 22 01 1935 Moo Bhk. 25 06 1918 -> 25 01 1920 |Mar Bhk. 22 01 1935 -> 19 01 1936 Mar Bhk. 25 01 1920 -> 04 03 1921 |Rah Bhk. 19 01 1936 -> 07 08 1938 Rah Bhk. 04 03 1921 -> 10 01 1924 |Jup Bhk. 07 08 1938 -> 13 11 1940 Jup Bhk. 10 01 1924 -> 22 07 1926 |Sat Bhk. 13 11 1940 -> 22 07 1943 Ket DASA 22 07 1943 -> 22 07 1950 |Ven DASA 22 07 1950 -> 22 07 1970 Ket Bhk. 22 07 1943 -> 19 12 1943 |Ven Bhk. 22 07 1950 -> 22 11 1953 Ven Bhk. 19 12 1943 -> 19 02 1945 |Sun Bhk. 22 11 1953 -> 22 11 1954 Sun Bhk. 19 02 1945 -> 25 06 1945 |Moo Bhk. 22 11 1954 -> 22 07 1956 Moo Bhk. 25 06 1945 -> 25 01 1946 |Mar Bhk. 22 07 1956 -> 22 09 1957 Mar Bhk. 25 01 1946 -> 22 06 1946 |Rah Bhk. 22 09 1957 -> 22 09 1960 Rah Bhk. 22 06 1946 -> 10 07 1947 |Jup Bhk. 22 09 1960 -> 22 05 1963 Jup Bhk. 10 07 1947 -> 16 06 1948 |Sat Bhk. 22 05 1963 -> 22 07 1966 Sat Bhk. 16 06 1948 -> 25 07 1949 |Mer Bhk. 22 07 1966 -> 22 05 1969 Mer Bhk. 25 07 1949 -> 22 07 1950 |Ket Bhk. 22 05 1969 -> 22 07 1970 Sun DASA 22 07 1970 -> 22 07 1976 |Moo DASA 22 07 1976 -> 22 07 1986 Sun Bhk. 22 07 1970 -> 10 11 1970 |Moo Bhk. 22 07 1976 -> 22 05 1977 Moo Bhk. 10 11 1970 -> 10 05 1971 |Mar Bhk. 22 05 1977 -> 22 12 1977 Mar Bhk. 10 05 1971 -> 16 09 1971 |Rah Bhk. 22 12 1977 -> 22 06 1979 Rah Bhk. 16 09 1971 -> 10 08 1972 |Jup Bhk. 22 06 1979 -> 22 10 1980 Jup Bhk. 10 08 1972 -> 28 05 1973 |Sat Bhk. 22 10 1980 -> 22 05 1982 Sat Bhk. 28 05 1973 -> 10 05 1974 |Mer Bhk. 22 05 1982 -> 22 10 1983 Mer Bhk. 10 05 1974 -> 16 03 1975 |Ket Bhk. 22 10 1983 -> 22 05 1984 Ket Bhk. 16 03 1975 -> 22 07 1975 |Ven Bhk. 22 05 1984 -> 22 01 1986 Ven Bhk. 22 07 1975 -> 22 07 1976 |Sun Bhk. 22 01 1986 -> 22 07 1986 Mar DASA 22 07 1986 -> 22 07 1993 |Rah DASA 22 07 1993 -> 22 07 2011 Mar Bhk. 22 07 1986 -> 19 12 1986 |Rah Bhk. 22 07 1993 -> 04 04 1996 Rah Bhk. 19 12 1986 -> 07 01 1988 |Jup Bhk. 04 04 1996 -> 28 08 1998 Jup Bhk. 07 01 1988 -> 13 12 1988 |Sat Bhk. 28 08 1998 -> 04 07 2001 Sat Bhk. 13 12 1988 -> 22 01 1990 |Mer Bhk. 04 07 2001 -> 22 01 2004 Mer Bhk. 22 01 1990 -> 19 01 1991 |Ket Bhk. 22 01 2004 -> 10 02 2005 Ket Bhk. 19 01 1991 -> 16 06 1991 |Ven Bhk. 10 02 2005 -> 10 02 2008 Ven Bhk. 16 06 1991 -> 16 08 1992 |Sun Bhk. 10 02 2008 -> 04 01 2009 Sun Bhk. 16 08 1992 -> 22 12 1992 |Moo Bhk. 04 01 2009 -> 04 07 2010 Moo Bhk. 22 12 1992 -> 22 07 1993 |Mar Bhk. 04 07 2010 -> 22 07 2011 Jup DASA 22 07 2011 -> 22 07 2027 | Jup Bhk. 22 07 2011 -> 10 09 2013 | Sat Bhk. 10 09 2013 -> 22 03 2016 | Mer Bhk. 22 03 2016 -> 28 06 2018 | Ket Bhk. 28 06 2018 -> 04 06 2019 | Ven Bhk. 04 06 2019 -> 04 02 2022 | Sun Bhk. 04 02 2022 -> 22 11 2022 | Moo Bhk. 22 11 2022 -> 22 03 2024 | Mar Bhk. 22 03 2024 -> 28 02 2025 | Rah Bhk. 28 02 2025 -> 22 07 2027 | ASTROLOGER: Kanakkumar.B. Bosmia DASA TO BE ENJOYED BY MER Dasa 22 7 1926 TO 22 7 1943 MER Bhk. 22 7 1926 TO 19 12 1928 |KET Bhk. 19 12 1928 TO 16 12 1929 MER Ant. 22 7 1926 TO 25 11 1926 |KET Ant. 19 12 1928 TO 10 1 1929 KET Ant. 25 11 1926 TO 15 1 1927 |VEN Ant. 10 1 1929 TO 9 3 1929 VEN Ant. 15 1 1927 TO 10 6 1927 |SUN Ant. 9 3 1929 TO 27 3 1929 SUN Ant. 10 6 1927 TO 23 7 1927 |MOO Ant. 27 3 1929 TO 27 4 1929 MOO Ant. 23 7 1927 TO 5 10 1927 |MAR Ant. 27 4 1929 TO 18 5 1929 MAR Ant. 5 10 1927 TO 26 11 1927 |RAH Ant. 18 5 1929 TO 11 7 1929 RAH Ant. 26 11 1927 TO 6 4 1928 |JUP Ant. 11 7 1929 TO 29 8 1929 JUP Ant. 6 4 1928 TO 2 8 1928 |SAT Ant. 29 8 1929 TO 25 10 1929 SAT Ant. 2 8 1928 TO 19 12 1928 |MER Ant. 25 10 1929 TO 16 12 1929 VEN Bhk. 16 12 1929 TO 16 10 1932 |SUN Bhk. 16 10 1932 TO 22 8 1933 VEN Ant. 16 12 1929 TO 6 6 1930 |SUN Ant. 16 10 1932 TO 1 11 1932 SUN Ant. 6 6 1930 TO 27 7 1930 |MOO Ant. 1 11 1932 TO 27 11 1932 MOO Ant. 27 7 1930 TO 22 10 1930 |MAR Ant. 27 11 1932 TO 15 12 1932 MAR Ant. 22 10 1930 TO 22 12 1930 |RAH Ant. 15 12 1932 TO 31 1 1933 RAH Ant. 22 12 1930 TO 25 5 1931 |JUP Ant. 31 1 1933 TO 11 3 1933 JUP Ant. 25 5 1931 TO 11 10 1931 |SAT Ant. 11 3 1933 TO 30 4 1933 SAT Ant. 11 10 1931 TO 22 3 1932 |MER Ant. 30 4 1933 TO 13 6 1933 MER Ant. 22 3 1932 TO 17 8 1932 |KET Ant. 13 6 1933 TO 1 7 1933 KET Ant. 17 8 1932 TO 16 10 1932 |VEN Ant. 1 7 1933 TO 22 8 1933 MOO Bhk. 22 8 1933 TO 22 1 1935 |MAR Bhk. 22 1 1935 TO 19 1 1936 MOO Ant. 22 8 1933 TO 5 10 1933 |MAR Ant. 22 1 1935 TO 13 2 1935 MAR Ant. 5 10 1933 TO 4 11 1933 |RAH Ant. 13 2 1935 TO 6 4 1935 RAH Ant. 4 11 1933 TO 21 1 1934 |JUP Ant. 6 4 1935 TO 24 5 1935 JUP Ant. 21 1 1934 TO 29 3 1934 |SAT Ant. 24 5 1935 TO 21 7 1935 SAT Ant. 29 3 1934 TO 20 6 1934 |MER Ant. 21 7 1935 TO 11 9 1935 MER Ant. 20 6 1934 TO 2 9 1934 |KET Ant. 11 9 1935 TO 2 10 1935 KET Ant. 2 9 1934 TO 2 10 1934 |VEN Ant. 2 10 1935 TO 1 12 1935 VEN Ant. 2 10 1934 TO 27 12 1934 |SUN Ant. 1 12 1935 TO 19 12 1935 SUN Ant. 27 12 1934 TO 22 1 1935 |MOO Ant. 19 12 1935 TO 19 1 1936 RAH Bhk. 19 1 1936 TO 7 8 1938 |JUP Bhk. 7 8 1938 TO 13 11 1940 RAH Ant. 19 1 1936 TO 7 6 1936 |JUP Ant. 7 8 1938 TO 26 11 1938 JUP Ant. 7 6 1936 TO 9 10 1936 |SAT Ant. 26 11 1938 TO 5 4 1939 SAT Ant. 9 10 1936 TO 4 3 1937 |MER Ant. 5 4 1939 TO 31 7 1939 MER Ant. 4 3 1937 TO 14 7 1937 |KET Ant. 31 7 1939 TO 18 9 1939 KET Ant. 14 7 1937 TO 8 9 1937 |VEN Ant. 18 9 1939 TO 4 2 1940 VEN Ant. 8 9 1937 TO 11 2 1938 |SUN Ant. 4 2 1940 TO 15 3 1940 SUN Ant. 11 2 1938 TO 27 3 1938 |MOO Ant. 15 3 1940 TO 23 5 1940 MOO Ant. 27 3 1938 TO 13 6 1938 |MAR Ant. 23 5 1940 TO 11 7 1940 MAR Ant. 13 6 1938 TO 7 8 1938 |RAH Ant. 11 7 1940 TO 13 11 1940 SAT Bhk. 13 11 1940 TO 22 7 1943 SAT Ant. 13 11 1940 TO 16 4 1941 MER Ant. 16 4 1941 TO 4 9 1941 KET Ant. 4 9 1941 TO 30 10 1941 VEN Ant. 30 10 1941 TO 12 4 1942 SUN Ant. 12 4 1942 TO 30 5 1942 MOO Ant. 30 5 1942 TO 21 8 1942 MAR Ant. 21 8 1942 TO 18 10 1942 RAH Ant. 18 10 1942 TO 13 3 1943 JUP Ant. 13 3 1943 TO 22 7 1943 : JAY MAI GADHECHI MA : No. 28 Sahakar 2- Jagabhai Park Rambaug: Maninagar AHMEDABAD 380 008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2004 Report Share Posted November 7, 2004 Kanak ji, Today only I have updated my virus scanner and I didn't received any alert. It may be a false alarm. But as the message is by MSN, it is better not to download it. Regards, Punit Pandey On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 18:33:42 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia <kanbosastro wrote: > > > > > Dear Punit ji, > > My MSN says that file infected with virus. > > regards > > kanak bosmia > > > >Punit Pandey <punitp > > > > > >Re: KPBC 1 > >Sun, 7 Nov 2004 18:28:52 +0530 > > > > > >Ron Gaunt ji, > > > >I am able to download the word file without any problem. > > > >Regards, > > > >Punit Pandey > > > > > >On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 15:13:49 +1000, rongaunt <rongaunt > wrote: > > > > > > Punit, > > > > > > Chart etc is attached. As this is the first time I have tried > > > this please let me know if there are any problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ron Gaunt > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 22:53:02 +0530, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >Better you can post the KP chart itself. > > > > > > > > > > > >On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:41:28 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > ><lyrastro1 wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Dear Ron, > > > >> Thank you...I will take a 3-4 days,in the meanwhile > kindly > > > >> send me the Long.and Lat. of Ipswitch...I do not know if my software > has > > > it > > > >> in its memory... > > > >> Thank you... > > > >> Yours sincerely, > > > >> lyrastro1 > > > >> GOOD LUCK ! > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> All Members, > > > >> > > > >> There has been little reply to the idea of Blind Charts. This > > > >> may be due to the fact that Yogesh has already given his support. > > > >> Therefore, I enclose the first Blind Chart. I have numbered it > > > >> so that if we progress along this path they will be easily > > > >> documented for reference purposes. > > > >> > > > >> If possible it would be preferable for participants to give > > > >> reasons for their opinion as a learning aid to other members - up > > > >> front. However, if time is at a premium, a simple opinion as to > > > >> the event will suffice. But it would be a service to members, > > > >> if those who determine the event correctly, will later provide > > > >> their reasons. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> KPBC1 > > > >> > > > >> Male, > > > >> D.O.B. 3 November 1911 > > > >> 11:48am UT + 00.00 > > > >> Ipswich, England > > > >> 52N04, 001E10 > > > >> Asc 13 Sag 09 > > > >> > > > >> EVENT: > > > >> > > > >> What took place at Nottingham, England (52N5 001W10) > > > >> 10th October 1931 at 5:45pm? > > > >> > > > >> Will participating members please respond by 00:01 am GMT > > > >> 15th November, as I will be posting the answer then. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Ron Gaunt > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:58:57 +0000, you wrote: > > > >> > > > >> >Dear Ron, > > > >> > On my part,I completely endorse your idea...it will > serve > > > to > > > >> sharpen the observation power of the student,to prognosticate,what > really > > > >> took place on that particular day... > > > >> > A lot of application of all what one has learnt from > his > > > >> experience and observation will come into play,and also the ability > to > > > >> carefully analyse logically,taking the help of many factors,like the > > > >> position of Moon at the time of the event,the exact DBAS operating at > the > > > >> time..the RPs at the TOJ....etc... > > > >> > I agree Ron,that this will be a very good exercise... > > > >> > By the way,I had successfully predicted as follows... " > > > Bush > > > >> will win surely,but not without some hiccups... " > > > >> > In case any member is interested I can mail him the > horary > > > >> chart and rhe analysis... > > > >> > With best wishes, > > > >> > I am,yours sincerely, > > > >> > lyrastro1 > > > >> > > > > >> >rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> >Punit & members, > > > >> > > > > >> >I am certain that there is gold in many of the KP books. > > > >> >However, they appear to have been written before the general use > > > >> >of computers. Accordingly examples are not easy to follow, > > > >> >because they give lists of significators for events, which would > > > >> >be easy to follow with a computer printout - but not easy from > > > >> >the limited chart and event details in the books. > > > >> > > > > >> >Accordingly I would like to see members attempts to delineate > > > >> >events. ie. accidents, marriage, childbirth, employment, etc. > > > >> > > > > >> >An excellent learning tool is the Blind Chart. Where birth > > > >> >data is given, and a date or dates. The objective is to > > > >> >ascertain what happened on this date. This doesn't appeal to > > > >> >everyone, as we can so easily see our limitations; but for those > > > >> >of us who are willing to work at it, every such chart is an > > > >> >excellent learning opportunity - particularly as we can learn > > > >> >from each others attempt. > > > >> > > > > >> >As I have thousands of charts on the Astrodatabank I will be > > > >> >happy to contribute data if required. And if members would > > > >> >like to try the Blind Chart idea I will be happy to accept > > > >> >details from members and post in an orderly fashion at say > > > >> >2 weekly or monthly intervals, if the List moderator agrees. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >Ron Gaunt > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:41:21 +0530, you wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >>Kanak ji, > > > >> >> > > > >> >>Yes sure. It is an excellent topic for discussion. We should push > it > > > >> >>for discussion. What I was looking for is a plan for future > > > >> >>discussion. Now, in my opinion, it is the best time to increase the > > > >> >>quality of discussion in the forum and make it KP learning and > > > >> >>research place. And for this, I am looking forward to your and > other > > > >> >>senior members contribution. > > > >> >> > > > >> >>Regards, > > > >> >> > > > >> >>Punit Pandey > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:51:02 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia > > > >> >><kanbosastro wrote: > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> dear punit ji, > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> topic mention by lajmiji is also good for discussion.(retro. > planet) > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> regards > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> kanak > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> >Punit Pandey <punitp > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> > Discussion Topics > > > >> >>> >Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:45:15 +0530 > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> >Yogesh ji, > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> >Good effort. We can start discussions on few of the important > > > concepts > > > >> >>> >of KP. I personally want to discuss " identification of exact > events > > > >> >>> >using natal chart " . I also request other members to let me know > what > > > >> >>> >can be the important topics for discussion. > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> >Regards, > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> >Punit Pandey > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>> >On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:37:50 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi > > > >> >>> ><lyrastro1 wrote: > > > >> >>> > > Dear Members, > > > >> >>> > > We have all been discussing thus > > > >> >>> > > far,verifying the correct ascendant,Ruling Planets,and > > > >> >>> > > other topics... > > > >> >>> > > I suggest that we discuss,in > > > >> >>> > > future,some more of the many finer points of K.P.,like > > > >> >>> > > for example,Retrograde Planets,DRPE(Day Rise Planetary > > > >> >>> > > Effect)and other newer very easily practicable > > > >> >>> > > theories, that have emerged through the relentless > > > >> >>> > > pursuit of Excellence...Let us begin with PLANETS IN > > > >> >>> > > RETROGRESSION...and their role in PREDICTIVE HORARY > > > >> >>> > > ASTROLOGY...a bugbear for beginners... > > > >> >>> > > WHAT DO KSK AND K.P. SAY... ? > > > >> >>> > > A Planet in retrograde motion,if > > > >> >>> > > posited in a constellation whose lord is in direct > > > >> >>> > > motion,after some delay or obstacle,the planet will > > > >> >>> > > give results,(as per its significations,sub etc.)but > > > >> >>> > > if it is retrograde and also in a retrograde > > > >> >>> > > constellation,the planet will give ONLY > > > >> >>> > > FAILURE...(during its DBA). > > > >> >>> > > KSK further clarifies that if the > > > >> >>> > > retrograde planet is in a constellation,whose lord is > > > >> >>> > > in DIRECT MOTION...it will fructify the result only > > > >> >>> > > after it turns direct in motion, and then reaches its > > > >> >>> > > point of retrogression...not before... > > > >> >>> > > (ALL THE ABOVE APPLIES TO HORARY ONLY.) > > > >> >>> > > In K.P.,Retrograde planets have not > > > >> >>> > > been assigned any special/different role to play...in > > > >> >>> > > Natal Astrology... > > > >> >>> > > Experiences of all members are > > > >> >>> > > invited... > > > >> >>> > > With best wishes, > > > >> >>> > > lyrastro1 > > > >> >>> > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> > ______________________ > > > >> >>> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online > > > >> >>> > > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > > > > >> >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 Punit, I too think that it is a false alarm. Except that Kanak's computer may have been infected from other sources. My computer is heavily defended with a firewall, also airport, and a daily update of a very good virus scanner. I also did not get any alert. Ron Gaunt On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 18:44:24 +0530, you wrote: > >Kanak ji, > >Today only I have updated my virus scanner and I didn't received any >alert. It may be a false alarm. But as the message is by MSN, it is >better not to download it. > >Regards, > >Punit Pandey > > >On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 18:33:42 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia ><kanbosastro wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Dear Punit ji, >> >> My MSN says that file infected with virus. >> >> regards >> >> kanak bosmia >> >> >> >Punit Pandey <punitp >> > >> > >> >Re: KPBC 1 >> >Sun, 7 Nov 2004 18:28:52 +0530 >> >> >> > >> >Ron Gaunt ji, >> > >> >I am able to download the word file without any problem. >> > >> >Regards, >> > >> >Punit Pandey >> > >> > >> >On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 15:13:49 +1000, rongaunt <rongaunt >> wrote: >> > > >> > > Punit, >> > > >> > > Chart etc is attached. As this is the first time I have tried >> > > this please let me know if there are any problems. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Ron Gaunt >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 22:53:02 +0530, you wrote: >> > > >> > > > >> > > >Better you can post the KP chart itself. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:41:28 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi >> > > ><lyrastro1 wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> Dear Ron, >> > > >> Thank you...I will take a 3-4 days,in the meanwhile >> kindly >> > > >> send me the Long.and Lat. of Ipswitch...I do not know if my software >> has >> > > it >> > > >> in its memory... >> > > >> Thank you... >> > > >> Yours sincerely, >> > > >> lyrastro1 >> > > >> GOOD LUCK ! >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> All Members, >> > > >> >> > > >> There has been little reply to the idea of Blind Charts. This >> > > >> may be due to the fact that Yogesh has already given his support. >> > > >> Therefore, I enclose the first Blind Chart. I have numbered it >> > > >> so that if we progress along this path they will be easily >> > > >> documented for reference purposes. >> > > >> >> > > >> If possible it would be preferable for participants to give >> > > >> reasons for their opinion as a learning aid to other members - up >> > > >> front. However, if time is at a premium, a simple opinion as to >> > > >> the event will suffice. But it would be a service to members, >> > > >> if those who determine the event correctly, will later provide >> > > >> their reasons. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> KPBC1 >> > > >> >> > > >> Male, >> > > >> D.O.B. 3 November 1911 >> > > >> 11:48am UT + 00.00 >> > > >> Ipswich, England >> > > >> 52N04, 001E10 >> > > >> Asc 13 Sag 09 >> > > >> >> > > >> EVENT: >> > > >> >> > > >> What took place at Nottingham, England (52N5 001W10) >> > > >> 10th October 1931 at 5:45pm? >> > > >> >> > > >> Will participating members please respond by 00:01 am GMT >> > > >> 15th November, as I will be posting the answer then. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> Ron Gaunt >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:58:57 +0000, you wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> >Dear Ron, >> > > >> > On my part,I completely endorse your idea...it will >> serve >> > > to >> > > >> sharpen the observation power of the student,to prognosticate,what >> really >> > > >> took place on that particular day... >> > > >> > A lot of application of all what one has learnt from >> his >> > > >> experience and observation will come into play,and also the ability >> to >> > > >> carefully analyse logically,taking the help of many factors,like the >> > > >> position of Moon at the time of the event,the exact DBAS operating at >> the >> > > >> time..the RPs at the TOJ....etc... >> > > >> > I agree Ron,that this will be a very good exercise... >> > > >> > By the way,I had successfully predicted as follows... " >> > > Bush >> > > >> will win surely,but not without some hiccups... " >> > > >> > In case any member is interested I can mail him the >> horary >> > > >> chart and rhe analysis... >> > > >> > With best wishes, >> > > >> > I am,yours sincerely, >> > > >> > lyrastro1 >> > > >> > >> > > >> >rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: >> > > >> > >> > > >> >Punit & members, >> > > >> > >> > > >> >I am certain that there is gold in many of the KP books. >> > > >> >However, they appear to have been written before the general use >> > > >> >of computers. Accordingly examples are not easy to follow, >> > > >> >because they give lists of significators for events, which would >> > > >> >be easy to follow with a computer printout - but not easy from >> > > >> >the limited chart and event details in the books. >> > > >> > >> > > >> >Accordingly I would like to see members attempts to delineate >> > > >> >events. ie. accidents, marriage, childbirth, employment, etc. >> > > >> > >> > > >> >An excellent learning tool is the Blind Chart. Where birth >> > > >> >data is given, and a date or dates. The objective is to >> > > >> >ascertain what happened on this date. This doesn't appeal to >> > > >> >everyone, as we can so easily see our limitations; but for those >> > > >> >of us who are willing to work at it, every such chart is an >> > > >> >excellent learning opportunity - particularly as we can learn >> > > >> >from each others attempt. >> > > >> > >> > > >> >As I have thousands of charts on the Astrodatabank I will be >> > > >> >happy to contribute data if required. And if members would >> > > >> >like to try the Blind Chart idea I will be happy to accept >> > > >> >details from members and post in an orderly fashion at say >> > > >> >2 weekly or monthly intervals, if the List moderator agrees. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >Ron Gaunt >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> >On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:41:21 +0530, you wrote: >> > > >> > >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >>Kanak ji, >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >>Yes sure. It is an excellent topic for discussion. We should push >> it >> > > >> >>for discussion. What I was looking for is a plan for future >> > > >> >>discussion. Now, in my opinion, it is the best time to increase the >> > > >> >>quality of discussion in the forum and make it KP learning and >> > > >> >>research place. And for this, I am looking forward to your and >> other >> > > >> >>senior members contribution. >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >>Regards, >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >>Punit Pandey >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:51:02 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia >> > > >> >><kanbosastro wrote: >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> dear punit ji, >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> topic mention by lajmiji is also good for discussion.(retro. >> planet) >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> regards >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> kanak >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >Punit Pandey <punitp >> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> >>> > Discussion Topics >> > > >> >>> >Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:45:15 +0530 >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> >>> >Yogesh ji, >> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> >>> >Good effort. We can start discussions on few of the important >> > > concepts >> > > >> >>> >of KP. I personally want to discuss " identification of exact >> events >> > > >> >>> >using natal chart " . I also request other members to let me know >> what >> > > >> >>> >can be the important topics for discussion. >> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> >>> >Regards, >> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> >>> >Punit Pandey >> > > >> >>> > >> > > >> >>> >On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:37:50 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi >> > > >> >>> ><lyrastro1 wrote: >> > > >> >>> > > Dear Members, >> > > >> >>> > > We have all been discussing thus >> > > >> >>> > > far,verifying the correct ascendant,Ruling Planets,and >> > > >> >>> > > other topics... >> > > >> >>> > > I suggest that we discuss,in >> > > >> >>> > > future,some more of the many finer points of K.P.,like >> > > >> >>> > > for example,Retrograde Planets,DRPE(Day Rise Planetary >> > > >> >>> > > Effect)and other newer very easily practicable >> > > >> >>> > > theories, that have emerged through the relentless >> > > >> >>> > > pursuit of Excellence...Let us begin with PLANETS IN >> > > >> >>> > > RETROGRESSION...and their role in PREDICTIVE HORARY >> > > >> >>> > > ASTROLOGY...a bugbear for beginners... >> > > >> >>> > > WHAT DO KSK AND K.P. SAY... ? >> > > >> >>> > > A Planet in retrograde motion,if >> > > >> >>> > > posited in a constellation whose lord is in direct >> > > >> >>> > > motion,after some delay or obstacle,the planet will >> > > >> >>> > > give results,(as per its significations,sub etc.)but >> > > >> >>> > > if it is retrograde and also in a retrograde >> > > >> >>> > > constellation,the planet will give ONLY >> > > >> >>> > > FAILURE...(during its DBA). >> > > >> >>> > > KSK further clarifies that if the >> > > >> >>> > > retrograde planet is in a constellation,whose lord is >> > > >> >>> > > in DIRECT MOTION...it will fructify the result only >> > > >> >>> > > after it turns direct in motion, and then reaches its >> > > >> >>> > > point of retrogression...not before... >> > > >> >>> > > (ALL THE ABOVE APPLIES TO HORARY ONLY.) >> > > >> >>> > > In K.P.,Retrograde planets have not >> > > >> >>> > > been assigned any special/different role to play...in >> > > >> >>> > > Natal Astrology... >> > > >> >>> > > Experiences of all members are >> > > >> >>> > > invited... >> > > >> >>> > > With best wishes, >> > > >> >>> > > lyrastro1 >> > > >> >>> > > GOOD LUCK ! >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >> ______________________ >> > > >> >>> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online >> > > >> >>> > > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > >> > > >> >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2004 Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 tw, Mine came through on the List OK. Ron Gaunt On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 11:14:02 +0000, you wrote: > > >Dear Ron Gaunt, > >I don't see the attachment. > >Best regards, > >tw > > , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: >> >> Punit, >> >> Chart etc is attached. As this is the first time I have tried >> this please let me know if there are any problems. >> >> >> Ron Gaunt >> >> >> >> On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 22:53:02 +0530, you wrote: >> >> > >> >Better you can post the KP chart itself. >> > >> > >> >On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:41:28 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi >> ><lyrastro1> wrote: >> >> >> >> Dear Ron, >> >> Thank you...I will take a 3-4 days,in the >meanwhile kindly >> >> send me the Long.and Lat. of Ipswitch...I do not know if my >software has it >> >> in its memory... >> >> Thank you... >> >> Yours sincerely, >> >> lyrastro1 >> >> GOOD LUCK ! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> All Members, >> >> >> >> There has been little reply to the idea of Blind Charts. This >> >> may be due to the fact that Yogesh has already given his support. >> >> Therefore, I enclose the first Blind Chart. I have numbered it >> >> so that if we progress along this path they will be easily >> >> documented for reference purposes. >> >> >> >> If possible it would be preferable for participants to give >> >> reasons for their opinion as a learning aid to other members - up >> >> front. However, if time is at a premium, a simple opinion as to >> >> the event will suffice. But it would be a service to members, >> >> if those who determine the event correctly, will later provide >> >> their reasons. >> >> >> >> >> >> KPBC1 >> >> >> >> Male, >> >> D.O.B. 3 November 1911 >> >> 11:48am UT + 00.00 >> >> Ipswich, England >> >> 52N04, 001E10 >> >> Asc 13 Sag 09 >> >> >> >> EVENT: >> >> >> >> What took place at Nottingham, England (52N5 001W10) >> >> 10th October 1931 at 5:45pm? >> >> >> >> Will participating members please respond by 00:01 am GMT >> >> 15th November, as I will be posting the answer then. >> >> >> >> >> >> Ron Gaunt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 09:58:57 +0000, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >Dear Ron, >> >> > On my part,I completely endorse your idea...it >will serve to >> >> sharpen the observation power of the student,to >prognosticate,what really >> >> took place on that particular day... >> >> > A lot of application of all what one has learnt >from his >> >> experience and observation will come into play,and also the >ability to >> >> carefully analyse logically,taking the help of many factors,like >the >> >> position of Moon at the time of the event,the exact DBAS >operating at the >> >> time..the RPs at the TOJ....etc... >> >> > I agree Ron,that this will be a very good >exercise... >> >> > By the way,I had successfully predicted as >follows... " Bush >> >> will win surely,but not without some hiccups... " >> >> > In case any member is interested I can mail him >the horary >> >> chart and rhe analysis... >> >> > With best wishes, >> >> > I am,yours sincerely, >> >> > lyrastro1 >> >> > >> >> >rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >Punit & members, >> >> > >> >> >I am certain that there is gold in many of the KP books. >> >> >However, they appear to have been written before the general use >> >> >of computers. Accordingly examples are not easy to follow, >> >> >because they give lists of significators for events, which would >> >> >be easy to follow with a computer printout - but not easy from >> >> >the limited chart and event details in the books. >> >> > >> >> >Accordingly I would like to see members attempts to delineate >> >> >events. ie. accidents, marriage, childbirth, employment, etc. >> >> > >> >> >An excellent learning tool is the Blind Chart. Where birth >> >> >data is given, and a date or dates. The objective is to >> >> >ascertain what happened on this date. This doesn't appeal to >> >> >everyone, as we can so easily see our limitations; but for >those >> >> >of us who are willing to work at it, every such chart is an >> >> >excellent learning opportunity - particularly as we can learn >> >> >from each others attempt. >> >> > >> >> >As I have thousands of charts on the Astrodatabank I will be >> >> >happy to contribute data if required. And if members would >> >> >like to try the Blind Chart idea I will be happy to accept >> >> >details from members and post in an orderly fashion at say >> >> >2 weekly or monthly intervals, if the List moderator agrees. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Ron Gaunt >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:41:21 +0530, you wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>Kanak ji, >> >> >> >> >> >>Yes sure. It is an excellent topic for discussion. We should >push it >> >> >>for discussion. What I was looking for is a plan for future >> >> >>discussion. Now, in my opinion, it is the best time to >increase the >> >> >>quality of discussion in the forum and make it KP learning and >> >> >>research place. And for this, I am looking forward to your and >other >> >> >>senior members contribution. >> >> >> >> >> >>Regards, >> >> >> >> >> >>Punit Pandey >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:51:02 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia >> >> >><kanbosastro@h...> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> dear punit ji, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> topic mention by lajmiji is also good for discussion.(retro. >planet) >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> regards >> >> >>> >> >> >>> kanak >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > Discussion Topics >> >> >>> >Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:45:15 +0530 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> >Yogesh ji, >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> >Good effort. We can start discussions on few of the >important concepts >> >> >>> >of KP. I personally want to discuss " identification of >exact events >> >> >>> >using natal chart " . I also request other members to let me >know what >> >> >>> >can be the important topics for discussion. >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> >Regards, >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> >Punit Pandey >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> >On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:37:50 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi >> >> >>> ><lyrastro1> wrote: >> >> >>> > > Dear Members, >> >> >>> > > We have all been discussing thus >> >> >>> > > far,verifying the correct ascendant,Ruling Planets,and >> >> >>> > > other topics... >> >> >>> > > I suggest that we discuss,in >> >> >>> > > future,some more of the many finer points of K.P.,like >> >> >>> > > for example,Retrograde Planets,DRPE(Day Rise Planetary >> >> >>> > > Effect)and other newer very easily practicable >> >> >>> > > theories, that have emerged through the relentless >> >> >>> > > pursuit of Excellence...Let us begin with PLANETS IN >> >> >>> > > RETROGRESSION...and their role in PREDICTIVE HORARY >> >> >>> > > ASTROLOGY...a bugbear for beginners... >> >> >>> > > WHAT DO KSK AND K.P. SAY... ? >> >> >>> > > A Planet in retrograde motion,if >> >> >>> > > posited in a constellation whose lord is in direct >> >> >>> > > motion,after some delay or obstacle,the planet will >> >> >>> > > give results,(as per its significations,sub etc.)but >> >> >>> > > if it is retrograde and also in a retrograde >> >> >>> > > constellation,the planet will give ONLY >> >> >>> > > FAILURE...(during its DBA). >> >> >>> > > KSK further clarifies that if the >> >> >>> > > retrograde planet is in a constellation,whose lord is >> >> >>> > > in DIRECT MOTION...it will fructify the result only >> >> >>> > > after it turns direct in motion, and then reaches its >> >> >>> > > point of retrogression...not before... >> >> >>> > > (ALL THE ABOVE APPLIES TO HORARY ONLY.) >> >> >>> > > In K.P.,Retrograde planets have not >> >> >>> > > been assigned any special/different role to play...in >> >> >>> > > Natal Astrology... >> >> >>> > > Experiences of all members are >> >> >>> > > invited... >> >> >>> > > With best wishes, >> >> >>> > > lyrastro1 >> >> >>> > > GOOD LUCK ! >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >____________________ >__ >> >> >>> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online >> >> >>> > > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > >> >> >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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