Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Dear Yogesh Rao Congratulations on your correct preditions. KP is Great. But let us not over enthusiastic and state that other astrologers are proved wrong: Many Vedic-astrologers of the Vedic Astology-group had predicted A victory for Bush. Many members of the Hansvedic group, who use Nadi and Kp mixed methods, had also predicted thsi. In the TIMES OF ASTROLOGY NOV 2004, a Monthly Magazine, published and sent 15 to 20 days earlier, has an article, by Vaachaspati Kashyap "SECOND TERM AWAITS GEORGE. W BUSH ". In the article he says he had forecat correctlt elction of Bush in 2000 also.. HE uses the KP system as he talks of Sub-Lord, and sub-sub lord. The Editor of the Magazine Smt Rajejswari Shanker, also follows KP, as can be made out from her editorial comments on articles. Articles written by D.K.Bhaskar "Higher Echelons of Astrology" appear also to advocate, in a way the KP system Good Luc Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Ron, On my part,I completely endorse your idea...it will serve to sharpen the observation power of the student,to prognosticate,what really took place on that particular day... A lot of application of all what one has learnt from his experience and observation will come into play,and also the ability to carefully analyse logically,taking the help of many factors,like the position of Moon at the time of the event,the exact DBAS operating at the time..the RPs at the TOJ....etc... I agree Ron,that this will be a very good exercise... By the way,I had successfully predicted as follows..." Bush will win surely,but not without some hiccups..." In case any member is interested I can mail him the horary chart and rhe analysis... With best wishes, I am,yours sincerely, lyrastro1rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: Punit & members,I am certain that there is gold in many of the KP books.However, they appear to have been written before the general useof computers. Accordingly examples are not easy to follow,because they give lists of significators for events, which wouldbe easy to follow with a computer printout - but not easy fromthe limited chart and event details in the books.Accordingly I would like to see members attempts to delineateevents. ie. accidents, marriage, childbirth, employment, etc.An excellent learning tool is the Blind Chart. Where birthdata is given, and a date or dates. The objective is toascertain what happened on this date. This doesn't appeal toeveryone, as we can so easily see our limitations; but for thoseof us who are willing to work at it, every such chart is anexcellent learning opportunity - particularly as we can learnfrom each others attempt.As I have thousands of charts on the Astrodatabank I will behappy to contribute data if required. And if members wouldlike to try the Blind Chart idea I will be happy to acceptdetails from members and post in an orderly fashion at say2 weekly or monthly intervals, if the List moderator agrees.Ron Gaunt On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:41:21 +0530, you wrote:>>Kanak ji,>>Yes sure. It is an excellent topic for discussion. We should push it>for discussion. What I was looking for is a plan for future>discussion. Now, in my opinion, it is the best time to increase the>quality of discussion in the forum and make it KP learning and>research place. And for this, I am looking forward to your and other>senior members contribution.>>Regards,>>Punit Pandey>>>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:51:02 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia><kanbosastro wrote:>> >> >> >> >> dear punit ji,>> >> topic mention by lajmiji is also good for discussion.(retro. planet)>> >> >> >> regards>> >> kanak>> >> >> >Punit Pandey <punitp >> > >> > >> > Discussion Topics >> >Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:45:15 +0530 >> >> >> > >> >Yogesh ji, >> > >> >Good effort. We can start discussions on few of the important concepts >> >of KP. I personally want to discuss "identification of exact events >> >using natal chart". I also request other members to let me know what >> >can be the important topics for discussion. >> > >> >Regards, >> > >> >Punit Pandey >> > >> >On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:37:50 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi >> ><lyrastro1 wrote: >> > > Dear Members, >> > > We have all been discussing thus >> > > far,verifying the correct ascendant,Ruling Planets,and >> > > other topics... >> > > I suggest that we discuss,in >> > > future,some more of the many finer points of K.P.,like >> > > for example,Retrograde Planets,DRPE(Day Rise Planetary >> > > Effect)and other newer very easily practicable >> > > theories, that have emerged through the relentless >> > > pursuit of Excellence...Let us begin with PLANETS IN >> > > RETROGRESSION...and their role in PREDICTIVE HORARY >> > > ASTROLOGY...a bugbear for beginners... >> > > WHAT DO KSK AND K.P. SAY... ? >> > > A Planet in retrograde motion,if >> > > posited in a constellation whose lord is in direct >> > > motion,after some delay or obstacle,the planet will >> > > give results,(as per its significations,sub etc.)but >> > > if it is retrograde and also in a retrograde >> > > constellation,the planet will give ONLY >> > > FAILURE...(during its DBA). >> > > KSK further clarifies that if the >> > > retrograde planet is in a constellation,whose lord is >> > > in DIRECT MOTION...it will fructify the result only >> > > after it turns direct in motion, and then reaches its >> > > point of retrogression...not before... >> > > (ALL THE ABOVE APPLIES TO HORARY ONLY.) >> > > In K.P.,Retrograde planets have not >> > > been assigned any special/different role to play...in >> > > Natal Astrology... >> > > Experiences of all members are >> > > invited... >> > > With best wishes, >> > > lyrastro1 >> > > GOOD LUCK ! >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ______________________>> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online >> > > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony >> > > >> > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2004 Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 Dear Mr.Raichur, I had specifically mentioned "many astrologers who appear onTV:...". In any case,you are right Sir,I should restrain myself from blowing my trumpet a bit too loudly...! Thank you for the advice... Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: Dear Yogesh Rao Congratulations on your correct preditions. KP is Great. But let us not over enthusiastic and state that other astrologers are proved wrong: Many Vedic-astrologers of the Vedic Astology-group had predicted A victory for Bush. Many members of the Hansvedic group, who use Nadi and Kp mixed methods, had also predicted thsi. In the TIMES OF ASTROLOGY NOV 2004, a Monthly Magazine, published and sent 15 to 20 days earlier, has an article, by Vaachaspati Kashyap "SECOND TERM AWAITS GEORGE. W BUSH ". In the article he says he had forecat correctlt elction of Bush in 2000 also.. HE uses the KP system as he talks of Sub-Lord, and sub-sub lord. The Editor of the Magazine Smt Rajejswari Shanker, also follows KP, as can be made out from her editorial comments on articles. Articles written by D.K.Bhaskar "Higher Echelons of Astrology" appear also to advocate, in a way the KP system Good Luc Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Ron, On my part,I completely endorse your idea...it will serve to sharpen the observation power of the student,to prognosticate,what really took place on that particular day... A lot of application of all what one has learnt from his experience and observation will come into play,and also the ability to carefully analyse logically,taking the help of many factors,like the position of Moon at the time of the event,the exact DBAS operating at the time..the RPs at the TOJ....etc... I agree Ron,that this will be a very good exercise... By the way,I had successfully predicted as follows..." Bush will win surely,but not without some hiccups..." In case any member is interested I can mail him the horary chart and rhe analysis... With best wishes, I am,yours sincerely, lyrastro1rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: Punit & members,I am certain that there is gold in many of the KP books.However, they appear to have been written before the general useof computers. Accordingly examples are not easy to follow,because they give lists of significators for events, which wouldbe easy to follow with a computer printout - but not easy fromthe limited chart and event details in the books.Accordingly I would like to see members attempts to delineateevents. ie. accidents, marriage, childbirth, employment, etc.An excellent learning tool is the Blind Chart. Where birthdata is given, and a date or dates. The objective is toascertain what happened on this date. This doesn't appeal toeveryone, as we can so easily see our limitations; but for thoseof us who are willing to work at it, every such chart is anexcellent learning opportunity - particularly as we can learnfrom each others attempt.As I have thousands of charts on the Astrodatabank I will behappy to contribute data if required. And if members wouldlike to try the Blind Chart idea I will be happy to acceptdetails from members and post in an orderly fashion at say2 weekly or monthly intervals, if the List moderator agrees.Ron Gaunt On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 11:41:21 +0530, you wrote:>>Kanak ji,>>Yes sure. It is an excellent topic for discussion. We should push it>for discussion. What I was looking for is a plan for future>discussion. Now, in my opinion, it is the best time to increase the>quality of discussion in the forum and make it KP learning and>research place. And for this, I am looking forward to your and other>senior members contribution.>>Regards,>>Punit Pandey>>>On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 10:51:02 +0530, Kanakkumar Bosmia><kanbosastro wrote:>> >> >> >> >> dear punit ji,>> >> topic mention by lajmiji is also good for discussion.(retro. planet)>> >> >> >> regards>> >> kanak>> >> >> >Punit Pandey <punitp >> > >> > >> > Discussion Topics >> >Wed, 3 Nov 2004 10:45:15 +0530 >> >> >> > >> >Yogesh ji, >> > >> >Good effort. We can start discussions on few of the important concepts >> >of KP. I personally want to discuss "identification of exact events >> >using natal chart". I also request other members to let me know what >> >can be the important topics for discussion. >> > >> >Regards, >> > >> >Punit Pandey >> > >> >On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:37:50 +0000 (GMT), Yogesh Rao Lajmi >> ><lyrastro1 wrote: >> > > Dear Members, >> > > We have all been discussing thus >> > > far,verifying the correct ascendant,Ruling Planets,and >> > > other topics... >> > > I suggest that we discuss,in >> > > future,some more of the many finer points of K.P.,like >> > > for example,Retrograde Planets,DRPE(Day Rise Planetary >> > > Effect)and other newer very easily practicable >> > > theories, that have emerged through the relentless >> > > pursuit of Excellence...Let us begin with PLANETS IN >> > > RETROGRESSION...and their role in PREDICTIVE HORARY >> > > ASTROLOGY...a bugbear for beginners... >> > > WHAT DO KSK AND K.P. SAY... ? >> > > A Planet in retrograde motion,if >> > > posited in a constellation whose lord is in direct >> > > motion,after some delay or obstacle,the planet will >> > > give results,(as per its significations,sub etc.)but >> > > if it is retrograde and also in a retrograde >> > > constellation,the planet will give ONLY >> > > FAILURE...(during its DBA). >> > > KSK further clarifies that if the >> > > retrograde planet is in a constellation,whose lord is >> > > in DIRECT MOTION...it will fructify the result only >> > > after it turns direct in motion, and then reaches its >> > > point of retrogression...not before... >> > > (ALL THE ABOVE APPLIES TO HORARY ONLY.) >> > > In K.P.,Retrograde planets have not >> > > been assigned any special/different role to play...in >> > > Natal Astrology... >> > > Experiences of all members are >> > > invited... >> > > With best wishes, >> > > lyrastro1 >> > > GOOD LUCK ! >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ______________________>> > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner online >> > > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony >> > > >> > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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