Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 1. if SL for a cusp say ex . 12th cusp is same for both 9th and 3rd cusps then somebody mailing that it is signifying that bhavas also . is it true? 2.what actually cupal SL(SUB LORD) signifies? 3. IF CUSPAL SL OF 12TH CUSP (FOR EX.) SIGNIFIES FOREIGN TOUR..ETC , (MATTERS RELATED TO 12 TH BHAVA) THEN WHY WE ARE CONSIDERING AGAIN .IN WHICH STAR IT IS DEPOSITED (THE CUSP SUB LORD). OK IF WE TAKE THAT, THEN ACCORDING TO KP ,ANY PLANET WILL GIVE THE MATTERS OF THE LORD OF THE CONSTELLATION IN WHICH IT IS DEPOSITED? THEN HOW THE CUSP SL IS SIGNIFYING THE MATTER? 3.IS THERE ANY CONNECTION TO ONE CUSP SL TO ANOTHER CUSP SL 4IF WE ARE CONSIDERING FOR LOVE AFFAIRS (FOR EX ), THEN WE WILL CONSIDER 5TH CUSP; IF 4TH CUSP SL IS ALSO SAME AS THE 5TH CUSP SL THEN ,WHAT IT SIGNIFIES? MEANS RESULT ? 5 . FOR HORARY WE ARE CONSIDERING RETROGRESSION OF THE PLANETS ?WHY WE R NOT CONSIDERING FOR NATAL ? 6FOR SOME MATTERS WE ARE AGAIN RECKONING THE BHAVAS FROM THAT PARTICULAR SIGN OF BHAVA .FOR EX 4TH TO 5TH HOUSE IS 9TH IS DETRIMENTAL TO THAT 5 TH BHAVA... FOR WHAT MATTERS WE NEED TO CONSIDER THIS? THANKS AND REGARDS M.AMARNATH M.C.A KP ASTROLOGER SOFTWARE ENGINEER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Dear Amar, 1) & 2) The sub lord of any KARAKA house,say, the XIIth(for foreign travel) is THE deciding factor,for going abroad...if it also SIGNFIES the III IX & XII...going abroad can be very confidently predicted...The sublord,say of the XIIth cusp is among ONE of the significators of the XIIth...among the many possible... 3) The significators of the XIIth could be many,the strongest among them have to be chosen to time the event correctly... 3b) Explained above... 4) The sublord is a planet which can signify various houses...In K.P., the sublord of the Karaka house must signify the event...otherwise it weill simply NOT TAKE PLACE...! That is the beauty of K.P., and only KSK has invented such a method of prognosticastion which gives almost 100% correct results ! 5) & 6) Kindly read Astrosecrets & K.P., by : Sothida Mannan K.Krishnamurthi and you will find ALL the answers and MORE...Pl. study K.P., deeply and benefit from it... With best wishes, Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! 1. if SL for a cusp say ex . 12th cusp is same for both 9th and 3rd cusps then somebody mailing that it is signifying that bhavas also . is it true? 2.what actually cupal SL(SUB LORD) signifies? 3. IF CUSPAL SL OF 12TH CUSP (FOR EX.) SIGNIFIES FOREIGN TOUR..ETC , (MATTERS RELATED TO 12 TH BHAVA) THEN WHY WE ARE CONSIDERING AGAIN .IN WHICH STAR IT IS DEPOSITED (THE CUSP SUB LORD). OK IF WE TAKE THAT, THEN ACCORDING TO KP ,ANY PLANET WILL GIVE THE MATTERS OF THE LORD OF THE CONSTELLATION IN WHICH IT IS DEPOSITED? THEN HOW THE CUSP SL IS SIGNIFYING THE MATTER? 3.IS THERE ANY CONNECTION TO ONE CUSP SL TO ANOTHER CUSP SL 4IF WE ARE CONSIDERING FOR LOVE AFFAIRS (FOR EX ), THEN WE WILL CONSIDER 5TH CUSP; IF 4TH CUSP SL IS ALSO SAME AS THE 5TH CUSP SL THEN ,WHAT IT SIGNIFIES? MEANS RESULT ? 5 . FOR HORARY WE ARE CONSIDERING RETROGRESSION OF THE PLANETS ?WHY WE R NOT CONSIDERING FOR NATAL ? 6FOR SOME MATTERS WE ARE AGAIN RECKONING THE BHAVAS FROM THAT PARTICULAR SIGN OF BHAVA .FOR EX 4TH TO 5TH HOUSE IS 9TH IS DETRIMENTAL TO THAT 5 TH BHAVA... FOR WHAT MATTERS WE NEED TO CONSIDER THIS? THANKS AND REGARDS M.AMARNATH M.C.A KP ASTROLOGER SOFTWARE ENGINEER. Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Dear Amar M The Cusp Lord of a Cusp completely influences the Matters of that House. Checking on the Star Lord of that SUB-Lord is another technique developed by the Mumbai KP Asrologers, know as 4th Step. Theorey Yes the Cuspal Lords are interconnected. Shri, K Bhaskaran has written a very good Book on this after Lot of Research. . 'PRINCIPLES OF CUSPAL LINKS" Published by Sagar Publicatins.. below is reproduced a Note on twin birth for information of all kp students Note ON TWINS: Case of Twin No 1 Born 14,4,1972 at 8-30 IST. POB madras 13 N 480 E 17; KP Ayanamsa: 23,22,48SSIGN,STAR,SUB LORDS ASC VEN,MOO,RAH (RAH IN SAT SIGN,SUN STAR SO CAN REPRESENT THEM) 3RD MOO,SAT,MER (TO CONNECT WITH YOUGER BROTHER) 11TH JUP,SAT,MER (TO CONNECT WITH ELDER BROTHER) KETU CAN BE AGENT FOR MOON,SAT===================================================== TWIN 2 BORN AT 8-35 AM SAME DATE,PLACE ASC VEN,MOO,JUP 3RD MOO,SAT,MER 11TH JUP,KET,MER who is the elder. ? one view is the Twin Born Later in time is the Elder. The other view is reverse,based on time of birth only. 1st View, twin 2 born later is the Elder. So as per KP, the 3rd Sub lord Must be connected to 11th of the Twin 1 Check. 3rd of twin 2 Star lord is Sat, Sub Lord is MER 11th of Twin 1 : has same star and sub lord. SO TWIN 2 IS ELDER BROTHERSo TWIN 2 IS THE ELDER BROTHER OF TWIN 1 REVERSE: IF WE ASSUME THAT TWIN ONE BORN EARLIER(8-30), IS THE ELDER ONE: 3RD CUSP OF TWIN 1 HAS SAT MER as Star/Sub 11th cusp of TWIN 2: HAS SAT KET as Star/sub: Star agrees but not the important SUB Lord. 11th sub Ket can be agegt for Moon,or Sun but not for Mercury. SO THIS VIEW IS NOT SUPPORTED BY KP SUBS. NOTE USING CORRECT AYANMSA AND PROGS, ONE WILL NOTE THE DIFFERENCE IN SUBS OF THE TWINS.iT IS WELL KNOWN THAT THE DIFFERENCE IN TWINS, LED PROF KRISHNAMURTHY TOPOSTULATE HIS STELLAR THEOREY, AND SUB DIVISION GOOD LUCK A.R.RAICHUR Amar M <amar_gitam wrote: 1. if SL for a cusp say ex . 12th cusp is same forboth 9th and 3rd cusps then somebody mailing that itis signifying that bhavas also . is it true?2.what actually cupal SL(SUB LORD) signifies?3. IF CUSPAL SL OF 12TH CUSP (FOR EX.) SIGNIFIESFOREIGN TOUR..ETC , (MATTERS RELATED TO 12 TH BHAVA)THEN WHY WE ARE CONSIDERING AGAIN .IN WHICH STAR IT ISDEPOSITED (THE CUSP SUB LORD).OK IF WE TAKE THAT, THEN ACCORDING TO KP ,ANY PLANETWILL GIVE THE MATTERS OF THE LORD OF THE CONSTELLATIONIN WHICH IT IS DEPOSITED? THEN HOW THE CUSP SL ISSIGNIFYING THE MATTER?3.IS THERE ANY CONNECTION TO ONE CUSP SL TO ANOTHERCUSP SL4IF WE ARE CONSIDERING FOR LOVE AFFAIRS (FOR EX ),THEN WE WILL CONSIDER 5TH CUSP;IF 4TH CUSP SL IS ALSO SAME AS THE 5TH CUSP SL THEN,WHAT IT SIGNIFIES? MEANS RESULT ?5 . FOR HORARY WE ARE CONSIDERING RETROGRESSION OF THEPLANETS ?WHY WE R NOT CONSIDERING FOR NATAL ?6FOR SOME MATTERS WE ARE AGAIN RECKONING THE BHAVASFROM THAT PARTICULAR SIGN OF BHAVA .FOR EX 4TH TO 5THHOUSE IS 9TH IS DETRIMENTAL TO THAT 5 TH BHAVA...FOR WHAT MATTERS WE NEED TO CONSIDER THIS?THANKS AND REGARDSM.AMARNATH M.C.AKP ASTROLOGERSOFTWARE ENGINEER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 dear anant, you are telling cusp sub lord is another technique developed by mumbai astrologers .. please recollect what KP said. kp explained this only .it is not a new technique please elaborate on 4th step theory. could please tell me where i will get this book 'PRINCIPLES OF CUSPAL LINKS " > Published by Sagar Publicatins.. suppose 5th and 4th cusp SL ARE SAME THEN he wont't succeed in love affairs? thanks and regards M.Amarnath --- anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: > Dear Amar M > > The Cusp Lord of a Cusp completely influences the > Matters of that House. > > Checking on the Star Lord of that SUB-Lord is > another technique developed by the Mumbai KP > Asrologers, know as 4th Step. Theorey > > Yes the Cuspal Lords are interconnected. Shri, K > Bhaskaran has written a very good Book on this after > Lot of Research. . 'PRINCIPLES OF CUSPAL LINKS " > Published by Sagar Publicatins.. > > below is reproduced a Note on twin birth for > information of all kp students > Note ON TWINS: Case of Twin No 1 Born 14,4,1972 at > 8-30 IST. POB madras 13 N 4 > 80 E 17; KP Ayanamsa: 23,22,48S > SIGN,STAR,SUB LORDS > ASC VEN,MOO,RAH (RAH IN SAT SIGN,SUN STAR SO CAN > REPRESENT THEM) > 3RD MOO,SAT,MER (TO CONNECT WITH YOUGER BROTHER) > 11TH JUP,SAT,MER (TO CONNECT WITH ELDER BROTHER) > KETU CAN BE AGENT FOR MOON,SAT > ===================================================== > TWIN 2 BORN AT 8-35 AM SAME DATE,PLACE > ASC VEN,MOO,JUP > 3RD MOO,SAT,MER > 11TH JUP,KET,MER > who is the elder. ? > one view is the Twin Born Later in time is the > Elder. The other view is reverse, > based on time of birth only. > 1st View, twin 2 born later is the Elder. So as per > KP, the 3rd Sub lord Must be > connected to 11th of the Twin 1 > Check. 3rd of twin 2 Star lord is Sat, Sub Lord is > MER > 11th of Twin 1 : has same star and sub lord. > SO TWIN 2 IS ELDER BROTHER > So TWIN 2 IS THE ELDER BROTHER OF TWIN 1 > REVERSE: IF WE ASSUME THAT TWIN ONE BORN > EARLIER(8-30), IS THE ELDER ONE: > 3RD CUSP OF TWIN 1 HAS SAT MER as Star/Sub > 11th cusp of TWIN 2: HAS SAT KET as Star/sub: Star > agrees but not the > important SUB Lord. 11th sub Ket can be agegt for > Moon,or Sun but not for Mercury. > SO THIS VIEW IS NOT SUPPORTED BY KP SUBS. > NOTE USING CORRECT AYANMSA AND PROGS, ONE WILL NOTE > THE DIFFERENCE IN SUBS OF THE > TWINS. > iT IS WELL KNOWN THAT THE DIFFERENCE IN TWINS, LED > PROF KRISHNAMURTHY TO > POSTULATE HIS STELLAR THEOREY, AND SUB DIVISION > GOOD LUCK > > A.R.RAICHUR > > > > Amar M <amar_gitam wrote: > > 1. if SL for a cusp say ex . 12th cusp is same for > both 9th and 3rd cusps then somebody mailing that it > is signifying that bhavas also . is it true? > > 2.what actually cupal SL(SUB LORD) signifies? > > 3. IF CUSPAL SL OF 12TH CUSP (FOR EX.) SIGNIFIES > FOREIGN TOUR..ETC , (MATTERS RELATED TO 12 TH BHAVA) > THEN WHY WE ARE CONSIDERING AGAIN .IN WHICH STAR IT > IS > DEPOSITED (THE CUSP SUB LORD). > > OK IF WE TAKE THAT, THEN ACCORDING TO KP ,ANY PLANET > WILL GIVE THE MATTERS OF THE LORD OF THE > CONSTELLATION > IN WHICH IT IS DEPOSITED? THEN HOW THE CUSP SL IS > SIGNIFYING THE MATTER? > > 3.IS THERE ANY CONNECTION TO ONE CUSP SL TO ANOTHER > CUSP SL > > 4IF WE ARE CONSIDERING FOR LOVE AFFAIRS (FOR EX ), > THEN WE WILL CONSIDER 5TH CUSP; > IF 4TH CUSP SL IS ALSO SAME AS THE 5TH CUSP SL THEN > ,WHAT IT SIGNIFIES? MEANS RESULT ? > > 5 . FOR HORARY WE ARE CONSIDERING RETROGRESSION OF > THE > PLANETS ?WHY WE R NOT CONSIDERING FOR NATAL ? > > 6FOR SOME MATTERS WE ARE AGAIN RECKONING THE BHAVAS > FROM THAT PARTICULAR SIGN OF BHAVA .FOR EX 4TH TO > 5TH > HOUSE IS 9TH IS DETRIMENTAL TO THAT 5 TH BHAVA... > FOR WHAT MATTERS WE NEED TO CONSIDER THIS? > > THANKS AND REGARDS > > M.AMARNATH M.C.A > KP ASTROLOGER > SOFTWARE ENGINEER. > > Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We > finish. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 dear yogesh, i dont find any straight answer for my questions from your reply. please explain clearly for my questions please let me know where i will get the book Astrosecrets & K.P . --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > Dear Amar, > 1) & 2) The sub lord of any KARAKA house,say, > the XIIth(for foreign travel) is THE deciding > factor,for going abroad...if it also SIGNFIES the > III > IX & XII...going abroad can be very confidently > predicted...The sublord,say of the XIIth cusp is > among > ONE of the significators of the XIIth...among the > many > possible... > 3) The significators of the XIIth could be > many,the strongest among them have to be chosen to > time the event correctly... > 3b) Explained above... > 4) The sublord is a planet which can > signify > various houses...In K.P., the sublord of the Karaka > house must signify the event...otherwise it weill > simply NOT TAKE PLACE...! That is the beauty of > K.P., > and only KSK has invented such a method of > prognosticastion which gives almost 100% correct > results ! > 5) & 6) > Kindly read Astrosecrets & K.P., by : > Sothida Mannan K.Krishnamurthi and you will find > ALL > the answers and MORE...Pl. study K.P., deeply and > benefit from it... > With best wishes, > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > 1. if SL for a cusp say ex . 12th cusp is same for > both 9th and 3rd cusps then somebody mailing that it > is signifying that bhavas also . is it true? > > 2.what actually cupal SL(SUB LORD) signifies? > > 3. IF CUSPAL SL OF 12TH CUSP (FOR EX.) SIGNIFIES > FOREIGN TOUR..ETC , (MATTERS RELATED TO 12 TH BHAVA) > THEN WHY WE ARE CONSIDERING AGAIN .IN WHICH STAR IT > IS > DEPOSITED (THE CUSP SUB LORD). > > OK IF WE TAKE THAT, THEN ACCORDING TO KP ,ANY > PLANET > WILL GIVE THE MATTERS OF THE LORD OF THE > CONSTELLATION > IN WHICH IT IS DEPOSITED? THEN HOW THE CUSP SL IS > SIGNIFYING THE MATTER? > > 3.IS THERE ANY CONNECTION TO ONE CUSP SL TO ANOTHER > CUSP SL > > 4IF WE ARE CONSIDERING FOR LOVE AFFAIRS (FOR EX ), > THEN WE WILL CONSIDER 5TH CUSP; > IF 4TH CUSP SL IS ALSO SAME AS THE 5TH CUSP SL THEN > ,WHAT IT SIGNIFIES? MEANS RESULT ? > > 5 . FOR HORARY WE ARE CONSIDERING RETROGRESSION OF > THE > PLANETS ?WHY WE R NOT CONSIDERING FOR NATAL ? > > 6FOR SOME MATTERS WE ARE AGAIN RECKONING THE BHAVAS > FROM THAT PARTICULAR SIGN OF BHAVA .FOR EX 4TH TO > 5TH > HOUSE IS 9TH IS DETRIMENTAL TO THAT 5 TH BHAVA... > FOR WHAT MATTERS WE NEED TO CONSIDER THIS? > > THANKS AND REGARDS > > M.AMARNATH M.C.A > KP ASTROLOGER > SOFTWARE ENGINEER. > > Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We > finish. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Dear Amar, You will,I'm sure appreciate, that space and time does not permit me to reproduce verbatim,'chapter and verse', ALL what K.P. says in his books... The answers are " seemingly " not straight,as quite a few " usages " may not be familiar...this is observed with some, who switch over from Traditional Astrology to K.P. This and many other K.P. books are all available at Hariman Booksellers,you pl. ask for a list...or visit the site K.P.Astrology...on the 'net... 804,Mount Road(Anna Salai),CHENNAI - 600002 Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! dear yogesh, i dont find any straight answer for my questions from your reply. please explain clearly for my questions please let me know where i will get the book Astrosecrets & K.P . --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > Dear Amar, > 1) & 2) The sub lord of any KARAKA house,say, > the XIIth(for foreign travel) is THE deciding > factor,for going abroad...if it also SIGNFIES the > III > IX & XII...going abroad can be very confidently > predicted...The sublord,say of the XIIth cusp is > among > ONE of the significators of the XIIth...among the > many > possible... > 3) The significators of the XIIth could be > many,the strongest among them have to be chosen to > time the event correctly... > 3b) Explained above... > 4) The sublord is a planet which can > signify > various houses...In K.P., the sublord of the Karaka > house must signify the event...otherwise it weill > simply NOT TAKE PLACE...! That is the beauty of > K.P., > and only KSK has invented such a method of > prognosticastion which gives almost 100% correct > results ! > 5) & 6) > Kindly read Astrosecrets & K.P., by : > Sothida Mannan K.Krishnamurthi and you will find > ALL > the answers and MORE...Pl. study K.P., deeply and > benefit from it... > With best wishes, > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > 1. if SL for a cusp say ex . 12th cusp is same for > both 9th and 3rd cusps then somebody mailing that it > is signifying that bhavas also . is it true? > > 2.what actually cupal SL(SUB LORD) signifies? > > 3. IF CUSPAL SL OF 12TH CUSP (FOR EX.) SIGNIFIES > FOREIGN TOUR..ETC , (MATTERS RELATED TO 12 TH BHAVA) > THEN WHY WE ARE CONSIDERING AGAIN .IN WHICH STAR IT > IS > DEPOSITED (THE CUSP SUB LORD). > > OK IF WE TAKE THAT, THEN ACCORDING TO KP ,ANY > PLANET > WILL GIVE THE MATTERS OF THE LORD OF THE > CONSTELLATION > IN WHICH IT IS DEPOSITED? THEN HOW THE CUSP SL IS > SIGNIFYING THE MATTER? > > 3.IS THERE ANY CONNECTION TO ONE CUSP SL TO ANOTHER > CUSP SL > > 4IF WE ARE CONSIDERING FOR LOVE AFFAIRS (FOR EX ), > THEN WE WILL CONSIDER 5TH CUSP; > IF 4TH CUSP SL IS ALSO SAME AS THE 5TH CUSP SL THEN > ,WHAT IT SIGNIFIES? MEANS RESULT ? > > 5 . FOR HORARY WE ARE CONSIDERING RETROGRESSION OF > THE > PLANETS ?WHY WE R NOT CONSIDERING FOR NATAL ? > > 6FOR SOME MATTERS WE ARE AGAIN RECKONING THE BHAVAS > FROM THAT PARTICULAR SIGN OF BHAVA .FOR EX 4TH TO > 5TH > HOUSE IS 9TH IS DETRIMENTAL TO THAT 5 TH BHAVA... > FOR WHAT MATTERS WE NEED TO CONSIDER THIS? > > THANKS AND REGARDS > > M.AMARNATH M.C.A > KP ASTROLOGER > SOFTWARE ENGINEER. > > Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We > finish. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2004 Report Share Posted October 28, 2004 Dear Amar, Prof. K.S.Krishnamurtiji was given the title,Jyotish Marthand at a ceremony by the Bharitiya Vidya Bhavan my Shri K.M.Munshi,in recognition of his fantastic discovery " Krisnamurthi Padhdhati " ... Sothida Mannan Shri K.Subramaniam,and Sothida Chakravarthy Shri K.Hariharan are Prof.K.S.K's sons... They have both published many books on K.P. Prof Balachandran,Pt,K.R.Kar,Mr.A.R.Raichur, the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham,Prof.Vaikari Ramamurthy are a few names among the well-known K.P. Stalwarts... The above is for your information...and also,there is a hardly any discernible difference between the old and new K.P.ayanamsa,to my mind... K.P. Ayanamsa is based on NEWCOMB's value for the precession of the Equinoxes,which is 50.2388475 per annum...!(Roughly 4.5 secs per month) For example the 1967 values for New and old,are,23d18m37s,new are 23d16m...and the new values are given for the 15th April,every year...adding the proportionate rate of ayanamsa one can arrive at the ayanamsa every month... The above is for your information... Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! Dear Amar, You will,I'm sure appreciate, that space and time does not permit me to reproduce verbatim,'chapter and verse', ALL what K.P. says in his books... The answers are " seemingly " not straight,as quite a few " usages " may not be familiar...this is observed with some, who switch over from Traditional Astrology to K.P. This and many other K.P. books are all available at Hariman Booksellers,you pl. ask for a list...or visit the site K.P.Astrology...on the 'net... 804,Mount Road(Anna Salai),CHENNAI - 600002 Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! dear yogesh, i dont find any straight answer for my questions from your reply. please explain clearly for my questions please let me know where i will get the book Astrosecrets & K.P . --- Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > Dear Amar, > 1) & 2) The sub lord of any KARAKA house,say, > the XIIth(for foreign travel) is THE deciding > factor,for going abroad...if it also SIGNFIES the > III > IX & XII...going abroad can be very confidently > predicted...The sublord,say of the XIIth cusp is > among > ONE of the significators of the XIIth...among the > many > possible... > 3) The significators of the XIIth could be > many,the strongest among them have to be chosen to > time the event correctly... > 3b) Explained above... > 4) The sublord is a planet which can > signify > various houses...In K.P., the sublord of the Karaka > house must signify the event...otherwise it weill > simply NOT TAKE PLACE...! That is the beauty of > K.P., > and only KSK has invented such a method of > prognosticastion which gives almost 100% correct > results ! > 5) & 6) > Kindly read Astrosecrets & K.P., by : > Sothida Mannan K.Krishnamurthi and you will find > ALL > the answers and MORE...Pl. study K.P., deeply and > benefit from it... > With best wishes, > Yours sincerely, > lyrastro1 > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > 1. if SL for a cusp say ex . 12th cusp is same for > both 9th and 3rd cusps then somebody mailing that it > is signifying that bhavas also . is it true? > > 2.what actually cupal SL(SUB LORD) signifies? > > 3. IF CUSPAL SL OF 12TH CUSP (FOR EX.) SIGNIFIES > FOREIGN TOUR..ETC , (MATTERS RELATED TO 12 TH BHAVA) > THEN WHY WE ARE CONSIDERING AGAIN .IN WHICH STAR IT > IS > DEPOSITED (THE CUSP SUB LORD). > > OK IF WE TAKE THAT, THEN ACCORDING TO KP ,ANY > PLANET > WILL GIVE THE MATTERS OF THE LORD OF THE > CONSTELLATION > IN WHICH IT IS DEPOSITED? THEN HOW THE CUSP SL IS > SIGNIFYING THE MATTER? > > 3.IS THERE ANY CONNECTION TO ONE CUSP SL TO ANOTHER > CUSP SL > > 4IF WE ARE CONSIDERING FOR LOVE AFFAIRS (FOR EX ), > THEN WE WILL CONSIDER 5TH CUSP; > IF 4TH CUSP SL IS ALSO SAME AS THE 5TH CUSP SL THEN > ,WHAT IT SIGNIFIES? MEANS RESULT ? > > 5 . FOR HORARY WE ARE CONSIDERING RETROGRESSION OF > THE > PLANETS ?WHY WE R NOT CONSIDERING FOR NATAL ? > > 6FOR SOME MATTERS WE ARE AGAIN RECKONING THE BHAVAS > FROM THAT PARTICULAR SIGN OF BHAVA .FOR EX 4TH TO > 5TH > HOUSE IS 9TH IS DETRIMENTAL TO THAT 5 TH BHAVA... > FOR WHAT MATTERS WE NEED TO CONSIDER THIS? > > THANKS AND REGARDS > > M.AMARNATH M.C.A > KP ASTROLOGER > SOFTWARE ENGINEER. > > Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We > finish. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 Dear Amar Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, by K Bhaskaran is published by SAGAR PUBLICATIONS 72 Jan Path Ved Mansion New Delhi 110001 4 step theory is only a technique, not a new theorey. This is based on KP"s Books only. . The Star Lord of the Sub-Lord is also considered. The articles are In Marathi by Mr Hasbe. Amar M <amar_gitam wrote: dear anant,you are telling cusp sub lord is another techniquedeveloped by mumbai astrologers .. please recollectwhat KP said.kp explained this only .it is not a new techniqueplease elaborate on 4th step theory.could please tell me where i will get this book 'PRINCIPLES OF CUSPAL LINKS"> Published by Sagar Publicatins..suppose 5th and 4th cusp SL ARE SAME THEN he wont'tsucceed in love affairs?thanks and regardsM.Amarnath--- anant raichur wrote:> Dear Amar M> > The Cusp Lord of a Cusp completely influences the> Matters of that House.> > Checking on the Star Lord of that SUB-Lord is> another technique developed by the Mumbai KP> Asrologers, know as 4th Step. Theorey> > Yes the Cuspal Lords are interconnected. Shri, K> Bhaskaran has written a very good Book on this after> Lot of Research. . 'PRINCIPLES OF CUSPAL LINKS"> Published by Sagar Publicatins..> > below is reproduced a Note on twin birth for> information of all kp students> Note ON TWINS: Case of Twin No 1 Born 14,4,1972 at> 8-30 IST. POB madras 13 N 4> 80 E 17; KP Ayanamsa: 23,22,48S> SIGN,STAR,SUB LORDS> ASC VEN,MOO,RAH (RAH IN SAT SIGN,SUN STAR SO CAN> REPRESENT THEM)> 3RD MOO,SAT,MER (TO CONNECT WITH YOUGER BROTHER)> 11TH JUP,SAT,MER (TO CONNECT WITH ELDER BROTHER)> KETU CAN BE AGENT FOR MOON,SAT>=====================================================> TWIN 2 BORN AT 8-35 AM SAME DATE,PLACE> ASC VEN,MOO,JUP > 3RD MOO,SAT,MER> 11TH JUP,KET,MER> who is the elder. ?> one view is the Twin Born Later in time is the> Elder. The other view is reverse,> based on time of birth only.> 1st View, twin 2 born later is the Elder. So as per> KP, the 3rd Sub lord Must be > connected to 11th of the Twin 1> Check. 3rd of twin 2 Star lord is Sat, Sub Lord is> MER> 11th of Twin 1 : has same star and sub lord.> SO TWIN 2 IS ELDER BROTHER> So TWIN 2 IS THE ELDER BROTHER OF TWIN 1> REVERSE: IF WE ASSUME THAT TWIN ONE BORN> EARLIER(8-30), IS THE ELDER ONE:> 3RD CUSP OF TWIN 1 HAS SAT MER as Star/Sub> 11th cusp of TWIN 2: HAS SAT KET as Star/sub: Star> agrees but not the > important SUB Lord. 11th sub Ket can be agegt for> Moon,or Sun but not for Mercury.> SO THIS VIEW IS NOT SUPPORTED BY KP SUBS.> NOTE USING CORRECT AYANMSA AND PROGS, ONE WILL NOTE> THE DIFFERENCE IN SUBS OF THE> TWINS.> iT IS WELL KNOWN THAT THE DIFFERENCE IN TWINS, LED> PROF KRISHNAMURTHY TO> POSTULATE HIS STELLAR THEOREY, AND SUB DIVISION> GOOD LUCK> > A.R.RAICHUR> > > > Amar M wrote:> > 1. if SL for a cusp say ex . 12th cusp is same for> both 9th and 3rd cusps then somebody mailing that it> is signifying that bhavas also . is it true?> > 2.what actually cupal SL(SUB LORD) signifies?> > 3. IF CUSPAL SL OF 12TH CUSP (FOR EX.) SIGNIFIES> FOREIGN TOUR..ETC , (MATTERS RELATED TO 12 TH BHAVA)> THEN WHY WE ARE CONSIDERING AGAIN .IN WHICH STAR IT> IS> DEPOSITED (THE CUSP SUB LORD).> > OK IF WE TAKE THAT, THEN ACCORDING TO KP ,ANY PLANET> WILL GIVE THE MATTERS OF THE LORD OF THE> CONSTELLATION> IN WHICH IT IS DEPOSITED? THEN HOW THE CUSP SL IS> SIGNIFYING THE MATTER?> > 3.IS THERE ANY CONNECTION TO ONE CUSP SL TO ANOTHER> CUSP SL> > 4IF WE ARE CONSIDERING FOR LOVE AFFAIRS (FOR EX ),> THEN WE WILL CONSIDER 5TH CUSP;> IF 4TH CUSP SL IS ALSO SAME AS THE 5TH CUSP SL THEN> ,WHAT IT SIGNIFIES? MEANS RESULT ?> > 5 . FOR HORARY WE ARE CONSIDERING RETROGRESSION OF> THE> PLANETS ?WHY WE R NOT CONSIDERING FOR NATAL ?> > 6FOR SOME MATTERS WE ARE AGAIN RECKONING THE BHAVAS> FROM THAT PARTICULAR SIGN OF BHAVA .FOR EX 4TH TO> 5TH> HOUSE IS 9TH IS DETRIMENTAL TO THAT 5 TH BHAVA...> FOR WHAT MATTERS WE NEED TO CONSIDER THIS?> > THANKS AND REGARDS> > M.AMARNATH M.C.A> KP ASTROLOGER> SOFTWARE ENGINEER.> > > > > > > > > Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We> finish.> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2004 Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 dear ananth, thank u for quick reply. yes ,kp considered in which star the sl is deposited . observe here clearly , any planet will give the results in which constellation it is deposited. (according to that star lord deposit and lordship). then how that planet will signify that particular cusp? and signifies that cusp matters? i think u got my point/ clear my rest of the doubts also thanking you --- anant raichur <anant_1608 wrote: > Dear Amar > Principles of Cuspal Interlinks, by K Bhaskaran is > published by SAGAR PUBLICATIONS 72 Jan Path Ved > Mansion New Delhi 110001 > > 4 step theory is only a technique, not a new > theorey. This is based on KP " s Books only. . The > Star Lord of the Sub-Lord is also considered. The > articles are In Marathi by Mr Hasbe. > > > Amar M <amar_gitam wrote: > > dear anant, > you are telling cusp sub lord is another technique > developed by mumbai astrologers .. please recollect > what KP said. > kp explained this only .it is not a new technique > > please elaborate on 4th step theory. > > could please tell me where i will get this book > 'PRINCIPLES OF CUSPAL LINKS " > > Published by Sagar Publicatins.. > > > suppose 5th and 4th cusp SL ARE SAME THEN he wont't > succeed in love affairs? > > thanks and regards > M.Amarnath > > --- anant raichur wrote: > > > Dear Amar M > > > > The Cusp Lord of a Cusp completely influences the > > Matters of that House. > > > > Checking on the Star Lord of that SUB-Lord is > > another technique developed by the Mumbai KP > > Asrologers, know as 4th Step. Theorey > > > > Yes the Cuspal Lords are interconnected. Shri, K > > Bhaskaran has written a very good Book on this > after > > Lot of Research. . 'PRINCIPLES OF CUSPAL LINKS " > > Published by Sagar Publicatins.. > > > > below is reproduced a Note on twin birth for > > information of all kp students > > Note ON TWINS: Case of Twin No 1 Born 14,4,1972 at > > 8-30 IST. POB madras 13 N 4 > > 80 E 17; KP Ayanamsa: 23,22,48S > > SIGN,STAR,SUB LORDS > > ASC VEN,MOO,RAH (RAH IN SAT SIGN,SUN STAR SO CAN > > REPRESENT THEM) > > 3RD MOO,SAT,MER (TO CONNECT WITH YOUGER BROTHER) > > 11TH JUP,SAT,MER (TO CONNECT WITH ELDER BROTHER) > > KETU CAN BE AGENT FOR MOON,SAT > > > ===================================================== > > TWIN 2 BORN AT 8-35 AM SAME DATE,PLACE > > ASC VEN,MOO,JUP > > 3RD MOO,SAT,MER > > 11TH JUP,KET,MER > > who is the elder. ? > > one view is the Twin Born Later in time is the > > Elder. The other view is reverse, > > based on time of birth only. > > 1st View, twin 2 born later is the Elder. So as > per > > KP, the 3rd Sub lord Must be > > connected to 11th of the Twin 1 > > Check. 3rd of twin 2 Star lord is Sat, Sub Lord is > > MER > > 11th of Twin 1 : has same star and sub lord. > > SO TWIN 2 IS ELDER BROTHER > > So TWIN 2 IS THE ELDER BROTHER OF TWIN 1 > > REVERSE: IF WE ASSUME THAT TWIN ONE BORN > > EARLIER(8-30), IS THE ELDER ONE: > > 3RD CUSP OF TWIN 1 HAS SAT MER as Star/Sub > > 11th cusp of TWIN 2: HAS SAT KET as Star/sub: Star > > agrees but not the > > important SUB Lord. 11th sub Ket can be agegt for > > Moon,or Sun but not for Mercury. > > SO THIS VIEW IS NOT SUPPORTED BY KP SUBS. > > NOTE USING CORRECT AYANMSA AND PROGS, ONE WILL > NOTE > > THE DIFFERENCE IN SUBS OF THE > > TWINS. > > iT IS WELL KNOWN THAT THE DIFFERENCE IN TWINS, LED > > PROF KRISHNAMURTHY TO > > POSTULATE HIS STELLAR THEOREY, AND SUB DIVISION > > GOOD LUCK > > > > A.R.RAICHUR > > > > > > > > Amar M wrote: > > > > 1. if SL for a cusp say ex . 12th cusp is same for > > both 9th and 3rd cusps then somebody mailing that > it > > is signifying that bhavas also . is it true? > > > > 2.what actually cupal SL(SUB LORD) signifies? > > > > 3. IF CUSPAL SL OF 12TH CUSP (FOR EX.) SIGNIFIES > > FOREIGN TOUR..ETC , (MATTERS RELATED TO 12 TH > BHAVA) > > THEN WHY WE ARE CONSIDERING AGAIN .IN WHICH STAR > IT > > IS > > DEPOSITED (THE CUSP SUB LORD). > > > > OK IF WE TAKE THAT, THEN ACCORDING TO KP ,ANY > PLANET > > WILL GIVE THE MATTERS OF THE LORD OF THE > > CONSTELLATION > > IN WHICH IT IS DEPOSITED? THEN HOW THE CUSP SL IS > > SIGNIFYING THE MATTER? > > > > 3.IS THERE ANY CONNECTION TO ONE CUSP SL TO > ANOTHER > > CUSP SL > > > > 4IF WE ARE CONSIDERING FOR LOVE AFFAIRS (FOR EX ), > > THEN WE WILL CONSIDER 5TH CUSP; > > IF 4TH CUSP SL IS ALSO SAME AS THE 5TH CUSP SL > THEN > > ,WHAT IT SIGNIFIES? MEANS RESULT ? > > > > 5 . FOR HORARY WE ARE CONSIDERING RETROGRESSION OF > > THE > > PLANETS ?WHY WE R NOT CONSIDERING FOR NATAL ? > > > > 6FOR SOME MATTERS WE ARE AGAIN RECKONING THE > BHAVAS > > FROM THAT PARTICULAR SIGN OF BHAVA .FOR EX 4TH TO > > 5TH > > HOUSE IS 9TH IS DETRIMENTAL TO THAT 5 TH BHAVA... > > FOR WHAT MATTERS WE NEED TO CONSIDER THIS? > > > > THANKS AND REGARDS > > > > M.AMARNATH M.C.A > > KP ASTROLOGER > > SOFTWARE ENGINEER. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We > > finish. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 dear ananth, i got that doubt only, thats why i asked u all< if i know then how i will ask ? i am giving one ex. to clear understanding , supppose for aries(mesha ) lagna born ,kuja(mars) is lord of 1 and 8 and he is deposited in 5th and in the start of ketu who is deposited in 11th house(kumbam). if 3rd cusp sl is kuja ,then how he will signify that 3rd cusp matters? and why he is a supremo ? i think all of our group will respond in this and resolve the basics of kp. thanking you, M.AMARANATH Assistant Systems Engineer-Trainee Tata Consultancy Services MUMBAI Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2004 Report Share Posted November 1, 2004 Dear Shri Amar When you are considering the 3rd House Matters, like Younger Brother, Short Travel, Communcations, Rumours etc. as ker KP you have to consider primarily the Sub Lord Of the Cusp. In the Example you have quoted, the Cusp Lord is Ketu. So, this planet will decide, not the Sign Lord Star Lord, nor planets in the #rd House. The significators of the 3rd house are determined by The STAR LORDS of the OCCUPANTS, THE OCCUPANTS, Then THE Planets in the STAR LORD of the Owner of the Sign of the House. Then Owner of the House. These are in order of importance. No Sub-lord of the cusp is will be a Significator of Some houe/houses. If this Sub Lord (mars in your example) is the significator of any house which is 1,2,3,6,10,11 from 3rd i.e if it signifies 3,4,5,8,12,1 then it is favorable. The 3rd house matters prosper. Otherwise it is not favouracle. In the example Mars is in 5th House. So he Signifies 5th.(2nd order). He also signifies 1,8 (LORDof House)-4th Order So it is favorable to 3rd house. So 3rd House matters prosper. Hope this is clear Amar M <amar_gitam wrote: dear ananth, i got that doubt only, thats why i asked u all< if i know then how i will ask ? i am giving one ex. to clear understanding , supppose for aries(mesha ) lagna born ,kuja(mars) is lord of 1 and 8 and he is deposited in 5th and in the start of ketu who is deposited in 11th house(kumbam). if 3rd cusp sl is kuja ,then how he will signify that 3rd cusp matters? and why he is a supremo ? i think all of our group will respond in this and resolve the basics of kp. thanking you, M.AMARANATH Assistant Systems Engineer-Trainee Tata Consultancy Services MUMBAI Mail - You care about security. So do we. --------- A.R.Raichur bombayanant_1608 raichuranant USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLYtel: 022-2506 2609 --------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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