Rectification of birth time ...

October 25, 2004

Dear Yogeshji,

I have not read the readers till now …

Yet, from the gist of emails etc …

it is puzzling to me the formula of asc sub lord

matching the moon star lord as a first step of rectification of birth time …

I did a quick check … I noticed

that the change of asc sub lord is faster than the

moon star lord … yet many births occur during this time … ? Can you

throw some light on to it?

bye

Sheikh Pervez Hameed

Yogesh Rao Lajmi

[lyrastro1]

25 October 2004 10:54

Re: Re:

permanent residence

Dear Balaji,

I think I should stop " helping "

members,for precisely this reason...they are,it

seems,only keen on getting FREE advice,for their

own

personal problems,pretending to be seriuos

students of

K.P.,and lack even the courtesy of writing back

whether the prediction had materialised or not...!

I am also sad that many " pose " as

'students' of K.P., and request solutions for

their

personal problems,alone,hence I have started

giving

them 'hints' and asking them to work out the

timing

etc., for themselves...only so that they can use

this

forum fruitfully...In future I will only

give

suggestions on " how to approach the

problem " ...

Also,most " students of K.P. " not only do

NOT use the K.P. ayanamsa,as required...and pose

queries as to why their analysis, " on

traditional

methods has gone wrong..etc.,athough this forum is

called the kp forum...! ?

All such queries should NOT be replied

to,I

strongly suggest...

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !

> Dear Yogeshji

>

> Pls give us a feedback,whether Miss.Richa got

the

> permanent status on the dates mentioned by

you or

> predicted by you.

>

> This is just to know about the greatness of

K.P once

> more.

>

> Thanks

> Balaji G

>

> Yogesh Rao Lajmi

<lyrastro1 wrote:

> Dear Richa ,

>

I am pleased to inform you that

> you will definitely be granted a permanent

residence

> status,on or around 21st Sept,2004,failing

which,on

> or around the 7th October 2004..

>

Yours sincerely,

>

lyrastro1

>

GOOD LUCK !

>

> shiv_saturn789us

<shiv_saturn789us wrote:

> Dear Sir Mr. L.Y.Rao

>

Thankyou very much for

> considering me.I want to

> ask about permanent residence/Citizenship in

> Singapore. The number

> which I find between 1 to 249 is 176 and time

here

> is 07:35 A.M. here

> in Singapore. Sir really I don't want

to west your

> time but I want

> stability in life as my husband will break

now if

> here will not

> stability now in his job. Because as i have

uttered

> before after my

> marriage he has changed four jobs, But before

my

> marriage there was

> not any change of job even in 7th years.

> Thankyou Sir for helping me.

> Richa

>

> ,

Yogesh Rao Lajmi

> <lyrastro1>

> wrote:

> > Dear Ms.Richa Gupta,

>

I will try to help

> you with

> K.P.Horary,pl. give me a number again,I had

deleted

> your earlier

> message,but my wife requested me to

help,saying that

> you seem to be

> in REAL trouble...

>

Pl. restate your

> question,and give

> a number between 1 & 249...

>

With best wishes,I

> am,

>

Yours sincerely,

>

L.Y.Rao.

> >

> > shiv_saturn789us

<shiv_saturn789us> wrote:

> > My name is Miss Richa Gupta

> > Date of birth is 09/August/1977

> > Time of birth is 00:35 A.m

> > Place of Birth is Moradabad

> > Longitude78;45E Latitude 28:50N

> > Please go through it and reply me for

permanent

> residence?

> >

October 25, 2004

Dear Shri Pervezji,

Such an accurate method of

verification of TOB,is NOT descibed or even attempted

by any other astrological system.

Pl. note that the ascendant itself

moves 1 degree every 4 minutes,approx,hence the sub of

the ascendant will move much much faster,changing the

sub & therefore the sublord very quickly indeed...and

each sub will last for a few minutes only...and

thousands of births ALL OVER THE WORLD WILL TAKE

PLACE,and maybe a few hundreds all over Delhi,but the

Moon moves over 1 degree in approx 1 hour or so...

Your observation to a large extent

is very right...Hence the importance of the EXACT

TOB,in K.P.,cannot be over-emphasised...

Therefore,in most short-term

cases,like when will I get a job,get married etc....I

personally resort to horary astrology which use the

time at which one begins analyses,is taken...

By the way,it seems a fiasco is

simply waiting to happen at the Lal Kitab forum,hence

I have resigned my membership...even earlier,Sify

astrology used to feature weekly forecasts from the

Lal Kitab,which were as good as the " Weekly Forecasts "

appearing in many Newspapers...and were not impressive

at all...the forum seems to be " dominated " by ...I am

sorry to say,a lot of " uncouth,mannerless people " ,who

simply try to force their views upon others...!

You and your family must be in

mourning,after your father's sad demise...are you also

observing the RAMADAN fasting...?

With the very best wishes,I am,

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !

> Dear Yogeshji,

>

> I have not read the readers till now …

>

> Yet, from the gist of emails etc … it is puzzling to

> me the formula of asc

> sub lord matching the moon star lord as a first step

> of rectification of

> birth time …

>

> I did a quick check … I noticed that the change of

> asc sub lord is faster

> than the moon star lord … yet many births occur

> during this time … ? Can you

> throw some light on to it?

>

> bye

> Sheikh Pervez Hameed

>

> _____

>

> Yogesh Rao Lajmi

> [lyrastro1]

> 25 October 2004 10:54

>

> Re: Re: permanent residence

>

> Dear Balaji,

> I think I should stop " helping "

> members,for precisely this reason...they are,it

> seems,only keen on getting FREE advice,for their own

> personal problems,pretending to be seriuos students

> of

> K.P.,and lack even the courtesy of writing back

> whether the prediction had materialised or not...!

> I am also sad that many " pose " as

> 'students' of K.P., and request solutions for their

> personal problems,alone,hence I have started giving

> them 'hints' and asking them to work out the timing

> etc., for themselves...only so that they can use

> this

> forum fruitfully...In future I will only give

> suggestions on " how to approach the problem " ...

> Also,most " students of K.P. " not only do

> NOT use the K.P. ayanamsa,as required...and pose

> queries as to why their analysis, " on traditional

> methods has gone wrong..etc.,athough this forum is

> called the kp forum...! ?

> All such queries should NOT be replied

> to,I

> strongly suggest...

> Yours sincerely,

> lyrastro1

> GOOD LUCK !

>

> > Dear Yogeshji

> >

> > Pls give us a feedback,whether Miss.Richa got the

> > permanent status on the dates mentioned by you or

> > predicted by you.

> >

> > This is just to know about the greatness of K.P

> once

> > more.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Balaji G

> >

> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

> > Dear Richa ,

> > I am pleased to inform you that

> > you will definitely be granted a permanent

> residence

> > status,on or around 21st Sept,2004,failing

> which,on

> > or around the 7th October 2004..

> > Yours sincerely,

> > lyrastro1

> > GOOD LUCK !

> >

> > shiv_saturn789us <shiv_saturn789us

> wrote:

> > Dear Sir Mr. L.Y.Rao

> > Thankyou very much for

> > considering me.I want to

> > ask about permanent residence/Citizenship in

> > Singapore. The number

> > which I find between 1 to 249 is 176 and time here

> > is 07:35 A.M. here

> > in Singapore. Sir really I don't want to west your

> > time but I want

> > stability in life as my husband will break now if

> > here will not

> > stability now in his job. Because as i have

> uttered

> > before after my

> > marriage he has changed four jobs, But before my

> > marriage there was

> > not any change of job even in 7th years.

> > Thankyou Sir for helping me.

> > Richa

> >

> > , Yogesh Rao

> Lajmi

> > <lyrastro1>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Ms.Richa Gupta,

> > > I will try to

> help

> > you with

> > K.P.Horary,pl. give me a number again,I had

> deleted

> > your earlier

> > message,but my wife requested me to help,saying

> that

> > you seem to be

> > in REAL trouble...

> > > Pl. restate your

> > question,and give

> > a number between 1 & 249...

> > > With best

> wishes,I

> > am,

> > > Yours sincerely,

> > > L.Y.Rao.

> > >

> > > shiv_saturn789us <shiv_saturn789us> wrote:

> > > My name is Miss Richa Gupta

> > > Date of birth is 09/August/1977

> > > Time of birth is 00:35 A.m

> > > Place of Birth is Moradabad

> > > Longitude78;45E Latitude 28:50N

> > > Please go through it and reply me for permanent

> > residence?

> > >

October 25, 2004

Dear Shri Pervezji, Such an accurate method ofverification of TOB,is NOT descibed or even attemptedby any other astrological system.

That is correct. This method of verification is not even used in KP! I requested that you give this group the name of the KP Reader and page where this method is given, but you have failed to do so. I am sure that other members will agree that this is NOT the method given by Shri Krishnamurti. Pl. note that the ascendant itselfmoves 1 degree every 4 minutes,approx,hence the sub ofthe ascendant will move much much faster,changing thesub & therefore the sublord very quickly indeed...andeach sub will last for a few minutes only...

Exactly. Which is why it seems irrational that babies only get born every 50 minutes or so...You tried to apply this to the twins but it did not work, and so, you retracted what you said. Is this not so?

October 26, 2004

Dear Alexandro,

i am agree with you.

plz. read book " SECRETS OF RP & BIRTH TIME ' By: Mr. K.BASKARAN Publisher: KRISHMAN & CO.

I found very good result from method gived by Shree K.Baskaran.

regards

kanak bosmia

>Alexandro de Montemayor <alexandrodem > > >Re: Rectification of birth time ... >Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:34:50 -0700 (PDT) > > > > >Dear Shri Pervezji, > Such an accurate method of >verification of TOB,is NOT descibed or even attempted >by any other astrological system. > >That is correct. This method of verification is not even used in KP! I requested that you give this group the name of the KP Reader and page where this method is given, but you have failed to do so. I am sure that other members will agree that this is NOT the method given by Shri Krishnamurti. > Pl. note that the ascendant itself >moves 1 degree every 4 minutes,approx,hence the sub of >the ascendant will move much much faster,changing the >sub & therefore the sublord very quickly indeed...and >each sub will last for a few minutes only... > >Exactly. Which is why it seems irrational that babies only get born every 50 minutes or so...You tried to apply this to the twins but it did not work, and so, you retracted what you said. Is this not so? > > > > > > The happening world of BPO! Know all that you need to know! Keep in step with what’s hot!

October 26, 2004

Dear Alex,(and ALL members)

There seems to be a need for most members, to

first of all,thoroughly familiarise themselves with

K.P.,instead of dashing off " opinions " ,and " doubts "

and asking for " page number " , " name of book " etc...

Pl/ Read Astrosecrets Part II,by Jyotida

Mannan K.Subramaniam,s/o KSK...pp 237-244...and

satisfy yourself...(for the specific answer sought).

As per K.P.,a birth can take place " every

moment " of time...and the point of Lagna can be

posited in a certain sign,in that,a certain star,in

which a certain sub,in which a certain sub-sub,and

certain sub-sub,and sub-sub-sub...sub-sub-sub-sub and

so on...

Such a fine division of a degree,in

proportion to the Vimshottari Dasa Periods of each

planet into subs,sub-subs etc.,was the discovery of

the late,Jyotish Marthand Shri Krishnamurthiji,which

crowned him with great success...

Therefore,firstly, a thorough study is

recommended,to begin with...Earlier also,in these

columns I had urged members to read this

book,available in three parts...thoroughly,as they are

likely to find almost all their queries answered,most

scientifically...

These kind of questions are generally raised

by persons who have first studied Vedic Astrology of

the Traditional variety...and have switched over to

K.P., but continue to keep comparing

unconsciously,perhaps,with what they had studied

earlier...I do understand...I face this problem while

handling most queries from " new converts to K.P., " ...

I therefore recommend that a thorough study

be made first,the (unconscious?) needless comparison

of K.P., with the traditional system, " at the drop of a

hat " ...could be avoided...

Possibly,in my considered opinion,such

kinds of hasty " conclusions or opinions " ,bordering on

questioning/challenging outright,the rationale of

K.P.,based only on " half-baked knowledge " should be

avoided...

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !

>

> Dear Shri Pervezji,

> Such an accurate method of

> verification of TOB,is NOT descibed or even

> attempted

> by any other astrological system.

>

> That is correct. This method of verification is not

> even used in KP! I requested that you give this

> group the name of the KP Reader and page where this

> method is given, but you have failed to do so. I am

> sure that other members will agree that this is NOT

> the method given by Shri Krishnamurti.

> Pl. note that the ascendant itself

> moves 1 degree every 4 minutes,approx,hence the sub

> of

> the ascendant will move much much faster,changing

> the

> sub & therefore the sublord very quickly

> indeed...and

> each sub will last for a few minutes only...

>

> Exactly. Which is why it seems irrational that

> babies only get born every 50 minutes or so...You

> tried to apply this to the twins but it did not

> work, and so, you retracted what you said. Is this

> not so?

>

> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> protection around

>

______________________

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Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

October 26, 2004

Very well. Since you are an authority (as you imply in your response) on the subject, I kindly ask you to please teach us this method of rectification by applying it to the twins before mentioned. I and others will be most greatful.

Alexandro

Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

Dear Alex,(and ALL members) There seems to be a need for most members, tofirst of all,thoroughly familiarise themselves withK.P.,instead of dashing off "opinions",and "doubts"and asking for "page number","name of book" etc... Pl/ Read Astrosecrets Part II,by JyotidaMannan K.Subramaniam,s/o KSK...pp 237-244...andsatisfy yourself...(for the specific answer sought). As per K.P.,a birth can take place "everymoment" of time...and the point of Lagna can beposited in a certain sign,in that,a certain star,inwhich a certain sub,in which a certain sub-sub,andcertain sub-sub,and sub-sub-sub...sub-sub-sub-sub andso on... Such a fine division of a

degree,inproportion to the Vimshottari Dasa Periods of eachplanet into subs,sub-subs etc.,was the discovery ofthe late,Jyotish Marthand Shri Krishnamurthiji,whichcrowned him with great success... Therefore,firstly, a thorough study isrecommended,to begin with...Earlier also,in thesecolumns I had urged members to read thisbook,available in three parts...thoroughly,as they arelikely to find almost all their queries answered,mostscientifically... These kind of questions are generally raisedby persons who have first studied Vedic Astrology ofthe Traditional variety...and have switched over toK.P., but continue to keep comparingunconsciously,perhaps,with what they had studiedearlier...I do understand...I face this problem whilehandling most queries from "new converts to

K.P.,"... I therefore recommend that a thorough studybe made first,the (unconscious?) needless comparisonof K.P., with the traditional system,"at the drop of ahat"...could be avoided... Possibly,in my considered opinion,suchkinds of hasty "conclusions or opinions",bordering onquestioning/challenging outright,the rationale ofK.P.,based only on "half-baked knowledge" should beavoided... Yours sincerely, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !

> > > > Dear Shri Pervezji,> Such an accurate method of> verification of TOB,is NOT descibed or even> attempted> by any other astrological system.> > That is correct. This method of verification is not> even used in KP! I requested that you give this> group the name of the KP Reader and page where this> method is given, but you have failed to do so. I am> sure that other members will agree that this is NOT> the method given by Shri Krishnamurti. > Pl. note that the ascendant itself> moves 1 degree every 4 minutes,approx,hence the sub> of> the ascendant will move much much

faster,changing> the> sub & therefore the sublord very quickly> indeed...and> each sub will last for a few minutes only...> > Exactly. Which is why it seems irrational that> babies only get born every 50 minutes or so...You> tried to apply this to the twins but it did not> work, and so, you retracted what you said. Is this> not so?> > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around > ______________________ India Matrimony: Find your life partner onlineGo to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

October 26, 2004

Dear Alex,

I seriously object to your

insinuations...you seem to " read " imaginary

things...perhaps you need to visit a well-qualified

psychiatrist(?),you seem to be a victim of a disease

called " persecution complex " ... ? !

I have not implied any such thing,you seem

to be obsessed with only one idea...although

Mr.Raichur has replied to this query fairly

comprehensively,and, I am certainly not an authority

on K.P., but I can assure you I am adequately familiar

with K.P.,and have over 35 years experience in the

application of K.P...Also,perhaps you have NOT READ my

replies in this column CAREFULLY,(I have admitted I

have very little experience in handling twin

births),but,sadly, as is your wont, you always seem

not to,and dash off a reply,perhaps,because of your

obssession...? ? !

Even in an earlier case you stubbornly KEPT

ON INSISTING even when your ignorance was exposed,by

Mr. Raichur, you chose to adopt a " patronising "

posture...! ( ... " now it is clear..etc " )

Pl. read K.P., properly and thoroughly,ONLY

then discuss the finer pouints of K.P.,not afterr just

reading the one of " Readers for beginners " ,and

attempting pontificate on K.P...

First gain adequate experience,understand

the principles of K.P.,properly...Alex...

Don't try to do one better than the very

famous/notorious Don Quixote...! !

A little humility will help you greatly...

Arrogance and pride,(a clear sign of little

knowledge),will not help you learn any subject,be it

astrology or anthing else...

With best wishes,

lyrastro1

BEST OF LUCK !

> Very well. Since you are an authority (as you imply

> in your response) on the subject, I kindly ask you

> to please teach us this method of rectification by

> applying it to the twins before mentioned. I and

> others will be most greatful.

>

> Alexandro

>

> Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

> Dear Alex,(and ALL members)

> There seems to be a need for most members,

> to

> first of all,thoroughly familiarise themselves with

> K.P.,instead of dashing off " opinions " ,and " doubts "

> and asking for " page number " , " name of book " etc...

> Pl/ Read Astrosecrets Part II,by Jyotida

> Mannan K.Subramaniam,s/o KSK...pp 237-244...and

> satisfy yourself...(for the specific answer sought).

> As per K.P.,a birth can take place " every

> moment " of time...and the point of Lagna can be

> posited in a certain sign,in that,a certain star,in

> which a certain sub,in which a certain sub-sub,and

> certain sub-sub,and sub-sub-sub...sub-sub-sub-sub

> and

> so on...

> Such a fine division of a degree,in

> proportion to the Vimshottari Dasa Periods of each

> planet into subs,sub-subs etc.,was the discovery of

> the late,Jyotish Marthand Shri Krishnamurthiji,which

> crowned him with great success...

> Therefore,firstly, a thorough study is

> recommended,to begin with...Earlier also,in these

> columns I had urged members to read this

> book,available in three parts...thoroughly,as they

> are

> likely to find almost all their queries

> answered,most

> scientifically...

> These kind of questions are generally

> raised

> by persons who have first studied Vedic Astrology of

> the Traditional variety...and have switched over to

> K.P., but continue to keep comparing

> unconsciously,perhaps,with what they had studied

> earlier...I do understand...I face this problem

> while

> handling most queries from " new converts to

> K.P., " ...

> I therefore recommend that a thorough

> study

> be made first,the (unconscious?) needless comparison

> of K.P., with the traditional system, " at the drop of

> a

> hat " ...could be avoided...

> Possibly,in my considered opinion,such

> kinds of hasty " conclusions or opinions " ,bordering

> on

> questioning/challenging outright,the rationale of

> K.P.,based only on " half-baked knowledge " should be

> avoided...

> Yours sincerely,

> lyrastro1

> GOOD LUCK !

>

> >

> > Dear Shri Pervezji,

> > Such an accurate method of

> > verification of TOB,is NOT descibed or even

> > attempted

> > by any other astrological system.

> >

> > That is correct. This method of verification is

> not

> > even used in KP! I requested that you give this

> > group the name of the KP Reader and page where

> this

> > method is given, but you have failed to do so. I

> am

> > sure that other members will agree that this is

> NOT

> > the method given by Shri Krishnamurti.

> > Pl. note that the ascendant

> itself

> > moves 1 degree every 4 minutes,approx,hence the

> sub

> > of

> > the ascendant will move much much faster,changing

> > the

> > sub & therefore the sublord very quickly

> > indeed...and

> > each sub will last for a few minutes only...

> >

> > Exactly. Which is why it seems irrational that

> > babies only get born every 50 minutes or so...You

> > tried to apply this to the twins but it did not

> > work, and so, you retracted what you said. Is this

> > not so?

> >

> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> > protection around

> >

>

______________________

> India Matrimony: Find your life partner

> online

> Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

>

October 26, 2004

Dear All,

I would like to wish better atmosphere.

Sincerely,

tw

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

wrote:

> Dear Alex,

> I seriously object to your

> insinuations...you seem to " read " imaginary

> things...perhaps you need to visit a well-qualified

> psychiatrist(?),you seem to be a victim of a disease

> called " persecution complex " ... ? !

> I have not implied any such thing,you seem

> to be obsessed with only one idea...although

> Mr.Raichur has replied to this query fairly

> comprehensively,and, I am certainly not an authority

> on K.P., but I can assure you I am adequately familiar

> with K.P.,and have over 35 years experience in the

> application of K.P...Also,perhaps you have NOT READ my

> replies in this column CAREFULLY,(I have admitted I

> have very little experience in handling twin

> births),but,sadly, as is your wont, you always seem

> not to,and dash off a reply,perhaps,because of your

> obssession...? ? !

> Even in an earlier case you stubbornly KEPT

> ON INSISTING even when your ignorance was exposed,by

> Mr. Raichur, you chose to adopt a " patronising "

> posture...! ( ... " now it is clear..etc " )

> Pl. read K.P., properly and thoroughly,ONLY

> then discuss the finer pouints of K.P.,not afterr just

> reading the one of " Readers for beginners " ,and

> attempting pontificate on K.P...

> First gain adequate experience,understand

> the principles of K.P.,properly...Alex...

> Don't try to do one better than the very

> famous/notorious Don Quixote...! !

> A little humility will help you greatly...

> Arrogance and pride,(a clear sign of little

> knowledge),will not help you learn any subject,be it

> astrology or anthing else...

> With best wishes,

> lyrastro1

> BEST OF LUCK !

>

> > Very well. Since you are an authority (as you imply

> > in your response) on the subject, I kindly ask you

> > to please teach us this method of rectification by

> > applying it to the twins before mentioned. I and

> > others will be most greatful.

> >

> > Alexandro

> >

> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

> > Dear Alex,(and ALL members)

> > There seems to be a need for most members,

> > to

> > first of all,thoroughly familiarise themselves with

> > K.P.,instead of dashing off " opinions " ,and " doubts "

> > and asking for " page number " , " name of book " etc...

> > Pl/ Read Astrosecrets Part II,by Jyotida

> > Mannan K.Subramaniam,s/o KSK...pp 237-244...and

> > satisfy yourself...(for the specific answer sought).

> > As per K.P.,a birth can take place " every

> > moment " of time...and the point of Lagna can be

> > posited in a certain sign,in that,a certain star,in

> > which a certain sub,in which a certain sub-sub,and

> > certain sub-sub,and sub-sub-sub...sub-sub-sub-sub

> > and

> > so on...

> > Such a fine division of a degree,in

> > proportion to the Vimshottari Dasa Periods of each

> > planet into subs,sub-subs etc.,was the discovery of

> > the late,Jyotish Marthand Shri Krishnamurthiji,which

> > crowned him with great success...

> > Therefore,firstly, a thorough study is

> > recommended,to begin with...Earlier also,in these

> > columns I had urged members to read this

> > book,available in three parts...thoroughly,as they

> > are

> > likely to find almost all their queries

> > answered,most

> > scientifically...

> > These kind of questions are generally

> > raised

> > by persons who have first studied Vedic Astrology of

> > the Traditional variety...and have switched over to

> > K.P., but continue to keep comparing

> > unconsciously,perhaps,with what they had studied

> > earlier...I do understand...I face this problem

> > while

> > handling most queries from " new converts to

> > K.P., " ...

> > I therefore recommend that a thorough

> > study

> > be made first,the (unconscious?) needless comparison

> > of K.P., with the traditional system, " at the drop of

> > a

> > hat " ...could be avoided...

> > Possibly,in my considered opinion,such

> > kinds of hasty " conclusions or opinions " ,bordering

> > on

> > questioning/challenging outright,the rationale of

> > K.P.,based only on " half-baked knowledge " should be

> > avoided...

> > Yours sincerely,

> > lyrastro1

> > GOOD LUCK !

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Pervezji,

> > > Such an accurate method of

> > > verification of TOB,is NOT descibed or even

> > > attempted

> > > by any other astrological system.

> > >

> > > That is correct. This method of verification is

> > not

> > > even used in KP! I requested that you give this

> > > group the name of the KP Reader and page where

> > this

> > > method is given, but you have failed to do so. I

> > am

> > > sure that other members will agree that this is

> > NOT

> > > the method given by Shri Krishnamurti.

> > > Pl. note that the ascendant

> > itself

> > > moves 1 degree every 4 minutes,approx,hence the

> > sub

> > > of

> > > the ascendant will move much much faster,changing

> > > the

> > > sub & therefore the sublord very quickly

> > > indeed...and

> > > each sub will last for a few minutes only...

> > >

> > > Exactly. Which is why it seems irrational that

> > > babies only get born every 50 minutes or so...You

> > > tried to apply this to the twins but it did not

> > > work, and so, you retracted what you said. Is this

> > > not so?

> > >

> > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> > > protection around

> > >

> >

>

____________________

__

> > India Matrimony: Find your life partner

> > online

> > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

> >

October 26, 2004

Dear tw,

I agree wholeheartedly...

With best wishes,

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !

Dear All,

I would like to wish better atmosphere.

Sincerely,

tw

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi

wrote:

> Dear Alex,

> I seriously object to your

> insinuations...you seem to " read " imaginary

> things...perhaps you need to visit a well-qualified

> psychiatrist(?),you seem to be a victim of a disease

> called " persecution complex " ... ? !

> I have not implied any such thing,you seem

> to be obsessed with only one idea...although

> Mr.Raichur has replied to this query fairly

> comprehensively,and, I am certainly not an authority

> on K.P., but I can assure you I am adequately

familiar

> with K.P.,and have over 35 years experience in the

> application of K.P...Also,perhaps you have NOT READ

my

> replies in this column CAREFULLY,(I have admitted I

> have very little experience in handling twin

> births),but,sadly, as is your wont, you always seem

> not to,and dash off a reply,perhaps,because of your

> obssession...? ? !

> Even in an earlier case you stubbornly

KEPT

> ON INSISTING even when your ignorance was exposed,by

> Mr. Raichur, you chose to adopt a " patronising "

> posture...! ( ... " now it is clear..etc " )

> Pl. read K.P., properly and

thoroughly,ONLY

> then discuss the finer pouints of K.P.,not afterr

just

> reading the one of " Readers for beginners " ,and

> attempting pontificate on K.P...

> First gain adequate experience,understand

> the principles of K.P.,properly...Alex...

> Don't try to do one better than the very

> famous/notorious Don Quixote...! !

> A little humility will help you

greatly...

> Arrogance and pride,(a clear sign of

little

> knowledge),will not help you learn any subject,be it

> astrology or anthing else...

> With best wishes,

> lyrastro1

> BEST OF LUCK !

>

> > Very well. Since you are an authority (as you

imply

> > in your response) on the subject, I kindly ask you

> > to please teach us this method of rectification by

> > applying it to the twins before mentioned. I and

> > others will be most greatful.

> >

> > Alexandro

> >

> > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:

> > Dear Alex,(and ALL members)

> > There seems to be a need for most

members,

> > to

> > first of all,thoroughly familiarise themselves

with

> > K.P.,instead of dashing off " opinions " ,and

" doubts "

> > and asking for " page number " , " name of book " etc...

> > Pl/ Read Astrosecrets Part II,by Jyotida

> > Mannan K.Subramaniam,s/o KSK...pp 237-244...and

> > satisfy yourself...(for the specific answer

sought).

> > As per K.P.,a birth can take place " every

> > moment " of time...and the point of Lagna can be

> > posited in a certain sign,in that,a certain

star,in

> > which a certain sub,in which a certain sub-sub,and

> > certain sub-sub,and sub-sub-sub...sub-sub-sub-sub

> > and

> > so on...

> > Such a fine division of a degree,in

> > proportion to the Vimshottari Dasa Periods of each

> > planet into subs,sub-subs etc.,was the discovery

of

> > the late,Jyotish Marthand Shri

Krishnamurthiji,which

> > crowned him with great success...

> > Therefore,firstly, a thorough study is

> > recommended,to begin with...Earlier also,in these

> > columns I had urged members to read this

> > book,available in three parts...thoroughly,as they

> > are

> > likely to find almost all their queries

> > answered,most

> > scientifically...

> > These kind of questions are generally

> > raised

> > by persons who have first studied Vedic Astrology

of

> > the Traditional variety...and have switched over

to

> > K.P., but continue to keep comparing

> > unconsciously,perhaps,with what they had studied

> > earlier...I do understand...I face this problem

> > while

> > handling most queries from " new converts to

> > K.P., " ...

> > I therefore recommend that a thorough

> > study

> > be made first,the (unconscious?) needless

comparison

> > of K.P., with the traditional system, " at the drop

of

> > a

> > hat " ...could be avoided...

> > Possibly,in my considered opinion,such

> > kinds of hasty " conclusions or opinions " ,bordering

> > on

> > questioning/challenging outright,the rationale of

> > K.P.,based only on " half-baked knowledge " should

be

> > avoided...

> > Yours sincerely,

> > lyrastro1

> > GOOD LUCK !

> >

> > >

> > > Dear Shri Pervezji,

> > > Such an accurate method of

> > > verification of TOB,is NOT descibed or even

> > > attempted

> > > by any other astrological system.

> > >

> > > That is correct. This method of verification is

> > not

> > > even used in KP! I requested that you give this

> > > group the name of the KP Reader and page where

> > this

> > > method is given, but you have failed to do so. I

> > am

> > > sure that other members will agree that this is

> > NOT

> > > the method given by Shri Krishnamurti.

> > > Pl. note that the ascendant

> > itself

> > > moves 1 degree every 4 minutes,approx,hence the

> > sub

> > > of

> > > the ascendant will move much much

faster,changing

> > > the

> > > sub & therefore the sublord very quickly

> > > indeed...and

> > > each sub will last for a few minutes only...

> > >

> > > Exactly. Which is why it seems irrational that

> > > babies only get born every 50 minutes or

so...You

> > > tried to apply this to the twins but it did not

> > > work, and so, you retracted what you said. Is

this

> > > not so?

> > >

> > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> > > protection around

> > >

> >

>

____________________

__

> > India Matrimony: Find your life partner

> > online

> > Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

> >

October 26, 2004

Dear Yogeshji,

Thank you for your response. If you have 35 years of experience in KP then you are obviously older than I am. As an elder, I would never disrespect you personally as you have me. However, this is a forum on KP astrology, where some, like me, come to learn, and others come to teach what they know, in whatever capacity they can.

If someone has 35 years of experience doing KP then that person certainly is an authority to me, even if you do not consider yourself to be one. On the other hand, I , as a good student, will question everything that is taught to me. It is my obligation as a student and as a scientist to do this. However, this attitude seems to offend you. I have questioned you on several counts and, unfortunately, your responses have not been satisfactory. They have all been observations on my learning and or attitude, but not on the subject at hand.

In your message you say that Mr. Raichur "exposed" my ignorance. I want to say two things about this: First, if you check that message, you will see that he agreed with me. Second, there is nothing to "expose"; I have a TOTAL ignorance on this subject. I make no secret about it.

You also accuse me of being arrogant and patronizing. This may be true, but your message below is not wanting in these either.

I am sorry we could not have a more productive discussion and confrontation.

Best regards,

Alexandro

Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:

Dear Alex, I seriously object to yourinsinuations...you seem to "read" imaginarythings...perhaps you need to visit a well-qualifiedpsychiatrist(?),you seem to be a victim of a diseasecalled "persecution complex"... ? ! I have not implied any such thing,you seemto be obsessed with only one idea...althoughMr.Raichur has replied to this query fairlycomprehensively,and, I am certainly not an authorityon K.P., but I can assure you I am adequately familiarwith K.P.,and have over 35 years experience in theapplication of K.P...Also,perhaps you have NOT READ myreplies in this column CAREFULLY,(I have admitted Ihave very little experience in handling twinbirths),but,sadly, as is your wont, you always seemnot to,and dash

off a reply,perhaps,because of yourobssession...? ? ! Even in an earlier case you stubbornly KEPTON INSISTING even when your ignorance was exposed,byMr. Raichur, you chose to adopt a "patronising"posture...! ( ..." now it is clear..etc") Pl. read K.P., properly and thoroughly,ONLYthen discuss the finer pouints of K.P.,not afterr justreading the one of "Readers for beginners",andattempting pontificate on K.P... First gain adequate experience,understandthe principles of K.P.,properly...Alex... Don't try to do one better than the veryfamous/notorious Don Quixote...! ! A little humility will help you

greatly... Arrogance and pride,(a clear sign of littleknowledge),will not help you learn any subject,be itastrology or anthing else... With best wishes, lyrastro1 BEST OF LUCK ! > Very well. Since you are an authority (as you imply> in your response) on the subject, I kindly ask you> to please teach us this method of rectification by> applying it to the twins before mentioned. I and> others will be most greatful.> > Alexandro> > > Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:> Dear Alex,(and ALL

members)> There seems to be a need for most members,> to> first of all,thoroughly familiarise themselves with> K.P.,instead of dashing off "opinions",and "doubts"> and asking for "page number","name of book" etc...> Pl/ Read Astrosecrets Part II,by Jyotida> Mannan K.Subramaniam,s/o KSK...pp 237-244...and> satisfy yourself...(for the specific answer sought).> As per K.P.,a birth can take place "every> moment" of time...and the point of Lagna can be> posited in a certain sign,in that,a certain star,in> which a certain sub,in which a certain sub-sub,and> certain sub-sub,and sub-sub-sub...sub-sub-sub-sub> and> so on...> Such a fine division of a degree,in>

proportion to the Vimshottari Dasa Periods of each> planet into subs,sub-subs etc.,was the discovery of> the late,Jyotish Marthand Shri Krishnamurthiji,which> crowned him with great success...> Therefore,firstly, a thorough study is> recommended,to begin with...Earlier also,in these> columns I had urged members to read this> book,available in three parts...thoroughly,as they> are> likely to find almost all their queries> answered,most> scientifically...> These kind of questions are generally> raised> by persons who have first studied Vedic Astrology of> the Traditional variety...and have switched over to> K.P., but continue to keep comparing> unconsciously,perhaps,with what they had studied> earlier...I do understand...I face this problem>

while> handling most queries from "new converts to> K.P.,"...> I therefore recommend that a thorough> study> be made first,the (unconscious?) needless comparison> of K.P., with the traditional system,"at the drop of> a> hat"...could be avoided...> Possibly,in my considered opinion,such> kinds of hasty "conclusions or opinions",bordering> on> questioning/challenging outright,the rationale of> K.P.,based only on "half-baked knowledge" should be> avoided...> Yours sincerely,> lyrastro1> GOOD LUCK

!> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pervezji,> > Such an accurate method of> > verification of TOB,is NOT descibed or even> > attempted> > by any other astrological system.> > > > That is correct. This method of verification is> not> > even used in KP! I requested that you give this> > group the name of the KP Reader and page where> this> > method is given, but you have failed to do so. I> am> > sure that other members will agree that this is> NOT> > the method given by Shri

Krishnamurti. > > Pl. note that the ascendant> itself> > moves 1 degree every 4 minutes,approx,hence the> sub> > of> > the ascendant will move much much faster,changing> > the> > sub & therefore the sublord very quickly> > indeed...and> > each sub will last for a few minutes only...> > > > Exactly. Which is why it seems irrational that> > babies only get born every 50 minutes or so...You> > tried to apply this to the twins but it did not> > work, and so, you retracted what you said. Is this> > not so?> > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> > protection around >

> > >______________________> India Matrimony: Find your life partner> online> Go to: http://.shaadi.com/india-matrimony> >

October 27, 2004

Dear Friends

PLEASE avoid personal references, and restrict your postings only to the subject matter.

If you do not agree with some opinion, please use polite language and say " I am afraid I cannot agree with your opininon.... for the following reasons.." Do not bring in your personal experience/ practice/ reading etc.

If you are upset, emotionally, type out your reactions, read it yourself, then DO NOT POST IT. Just cancel the reply.

Good luck

Alexandro de Montemayor <alexandrodem wrote: