Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Yash ji, Numbers are mostly used to narrow-down the results similar to ruling planets. For example if we are calculating something related to marriage/wife, we can take the sum of date of marriage and the planet representing that number can be used as ruling planet. I have seen some people doing that and they say that it proved quite useful to them. It can be used if someone wants to answer something quickly (otherwise you will have to remember the ruling planets). It is a proved fact that more sciences you will mix with astrology, you will be able to get better results. For example in Lal Kitab, one can use a mix of astrology, palmistry, phrenology, and Vastu etc. for ascertaining something. There are few books available on Indian numerology (my friend was not using Chero's or Sepherial's numerology) but in none of them I found explanation of relation between astrology and numerology. Hope it will be helpful. Regards, Punit Pandey - Ice man <yashokumar Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:04:58 -0000 Re: horary for property I had also posted this same question in another site and a chap called Ravi Kumar was using numerology along with astrology. Does anyone here combine techniques and to what degree of success? I have found a system for working up the lost property location and success in finding it, it's not mine in idea but one that i have adopted. I will write it up and upload it here this week. Good wishes to all. Yash , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > Yash ji, > > What is the relation between querent and person wanted to buy the > property? In my opnion, this question can not be answered without > knowing the relation. Who has given the number? > > It seems that you want to know on your relative's behalf. I have found > that accuracy improves manyfolds if the person, closely involved with > the query, gives the number. As the eagerness may not be profound for > non-involvers(or may be some other reason that I don't know). Is it > possible to get the number directly from the person involved in the > bidding? It can be the test of avobe belief too. > > Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > - > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> > Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:02:55 +0530 > horary for property..ice man > > Cc: l > > Dear Members > My analysis of horary number 5 , worked out on 16th August 2004 at 13:49:57 > at Chennai is as follows : > > Moon,representing mind, is in the sign and sub of sun and in the star of > ketu > ketu in in the sign of libra hence representing venus. > ketu in 7,moon in 5,ven in 3 ownes 2 and 7 cusps. > > for property we should consider cusps no.4 ( prime cusp fpr property ) ,11 > fulfillment of desire ) ,and 12 ( expences i.e. payments made ) . > > moon is not connected to either 4 or 11 or 12. may be at the time of > question ,person was not seriously thinking of property but matters related > to cusps no.2,3,5,7 ( bank balance,spouse,entertainment,short journey etc. > ....how to get the money,property in the name of spouse etc ) > > 4th cusp sublord is venus ( posited in 3 and owner of 2 and 7 ) in the star > of Rahu ( rahu in sign of aries hence represents Mars ) > > mars owner of 1 and 8, posited in 5. > > 4th cusp sublord also not indicating 4,11 or 12. > > My judgement----the person will not be able to buy the property in question. > > I request all other members also to participate and practice.we all are > equal here and we are here to learn. > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > - > Ice man <yashokumar> > > Sunday, August 15, 2004 2:04 PM > Re: horary for property > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > Here is a case that you can try your hand on. A close relation is > > trying to purchase a property here. > > A brief background: In Scotland property is usually sold by means of > > a blind auction. The seller puts their house for sale and sets the > > minimum they expect. People then put in offers in a auction style. > > The seller then selects the person they wan to sell to, usually the > > highest bidder. > > An offer has been made on 14th August and a formal one is being > > submitted on 16th August. > > The horary number chosen was 5. > > Question: will my relative be succesful in buying this property? > > I have cast a horary chart and uploaded it in the files section of > > this group site. I have indicated the significators and RP's at the > > time I considered it as well as what I was starting to do. I have > > not put forward my conclusions as I did not wish to unduly influence > > anyone. You are welcome to discuss this case. results will normally > > be known within 2 weeks thus we can use this case and see how we can > > go about predicting property purchases usin horary. If we are right > > great if we get it incorrect we can do a postmortem and see what we > > should have done. > > Yash > > PS: Rajeevji I have been busy at work last week and have not been > > able to compile the cases yet. I will try and do so and send it > > directly to you soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Dear Punit Ji IMHO,when we are in rome,we should do the way the romans do. we must not mix two different astro-sciences. for example, in astrology moon and ketu are not friends but in numerology no.2 ( moon ) and no.7 ( ketu ) are best friends. sun and rahu are not friends in astrology but in numerology no.1 ( sun ) and no.4 ( rahu ) are best friends. in vastu , west of north-west opening is good but in lalkitab closing of west is good. Sh. KSK has written in his books that KP has nothing to do with umerology.( see page 100 of horary astrology--reader 6 ) This is not to offend anybody and i believe that there is always a scope for improvement. Regards Rajeev K Khattar - Punit Pandey <punitp Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:25 AM Astro-Numerology > Yash ji, > > Numbers are mostly used to narrow-down the results similar to ruling > planets. For example if we are calculating something related to > marriage/wife, we can take the sum of date of marriage and the planet > representing that number can be used as ruling planet. > > I have seen some people doing that and they say that it proved quite > useful to them. It can be used if someone wants to answer something > quickly (otherwise you will have to remember the ruling planets). It > is a proved fact that more sciences you will mix with astrology, you > will be able to get better results. For example in Lal Kitab, one can > use a mix of astrology, palmistry, phrenology, and Vastu etc. for > ascertaining something. > > There are few books available on Indian numerology (my friend was not > using Chero's or Sepherial's numerology) but in none of them I found > explanation of relation between astrology and numerology. > > Hope it will be helpful. > > Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > > - > Ice man <yashokumar > Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:04:58 -0000 > Re: horary for property > > > > I had also posted this same question in another site and a chap > called Ravi Kumar was using numerology along with astrology. Does > anyone here combine techniques and to what degree of success? > I have found a system for working up the lost property location and > success in finding it, it's not mine in idea but one that i have > adopted. I will write it up and upload it here this week. > Good wishes to all. > Yash > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > Yash ji, > > > > What is the relation between querent and person wanted to buy the > > property? In my opnion, this question can not be answered without > > knowing the relation. Who has given the number? > > > > It seems that you want to know on your relative's behalf. I have > found > > that accuracy improves manyfolds if the person, closely involved > with > > the query, gives the number. As the eagerness may not be profound > for > > non-involvers(or may be some other reason that I don't know). Is it > > possible to get the number directly from the person involved in the > > bidding? It can be the test of avobe belief too. > > > > Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > - > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> > > Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:02:55 +0530 > > horary for property..ice man > > > > Cc: l > > > > Dear Members > > My analysis of horary number 5 , worked out on 16th August 2004 at > 13:49:57 > > at Chennai is as follows : > > > > Moon,representing mind, is in the sign and sub of sun and in the > star of > > ketu > > ketu in in the sign of libra hence representing venus. > > ketu in 7,moon in 5,ven in 3 ownes 2 and 7 cusps. > > > > for property we should consider cusps no.4 ( prime cusp fpr > property ) ,11 > > fulfillment of desire ) ,and 12 ( expences i.e. payments made ) . > > > > moon is not connected to either 4 or 11 or 12. may be at the time > of > > question ,person was not seriously thinking of property but > matters related > > to cusps no.2,3,5,7 ( bank balance,spouse,entertainment,short > journey etc. > > ....how to get the money,property in the name of spouse etc ) > > > > 4th cusp sublord is venus ( posited in 3 and owner of 2 and 7 ) in > the star > > of Rahu ( rahu in sign of aries hence represents Mars ) > > > > mars owner of 1 and 8, posited in 5. > > > > 4th cusp sublord also not indicating 4,11 or 12. > > > > My judgement----the person will not be able to buy the property in > question. > > > > I request all other members also to participate and practice.we > all are > > equal here and we are here to learn. > > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Ice man <yashokumar> > > > > Sunday, August 15, 2004 2:04 PM > > Re: horary for property > > > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > Here is a case that you can try your hand on. A close relation is > > > trying to purchase a property here. > > > A brief background: In Scotland property is usually sold by > means of > > > a blind auction. The seller puts their house for sale and sets > the > > > minimum they expect. People then put in offers in a auction > style. > > > The seller then selects the person they wan to sell to, usually > the > > > highest bidder. > > > An offer has been made on 14th August and a formal one is being > > > submitted on 16th August. > > > The horary number chosen was 5. > > > Question: will my relative be succesful in buying this property? > > > I have cast a horary chart and uploaded it in the files section > of > > > this group site. I have indicated the significators and RP's at > the > > > time I considered it as well as what I was starting to do. I have > > > not put forward my conclusions as I did not wish to unduly > influence > > > anyone. You are welcome to discuss this case. results will > normally > > > be known within 2 weeks thus we can use this case and see how we > can > > > go about predicting property purchases usin horary. If we are > right > > > great if we get it incorrect we can do a postmortem and see what > we > > > should have done. > > > Yash > > > PS: Rajeevji I have been busy at work last week and have not been > > > able to compile the cases yet. I will try and do so and send it > > > directly to you soon. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 Khattar ji, Even I believe the same. Mixing different predictive sciences can hinder the learning process. I was not suggesting Yash ji to use numerology. Yash ji just wanted to ask about astro-numerology and fortunately one of my astrologer friend is using it with sufficient success. Though it is not good to mix different branches with learning, I believe, that all branches are same at the foundation. Can you imagine lal kitab without vastu and palmistry? Lal Kitab is one book that extended astrology to vastu and palmistry and even to phrenology. Similarly, IMHO, astrology can be extended to numerology too. Even Shri KSK was using totally unrelated science like omen with his predictions (see fundamental principles of astrology). Rather, I must say, he has strongly recommended it. What is your opinion? Regards, Punit Pandey - Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:50:26 +0530 Re: Astro-Numerology Dear Punit Ji IMHO,when we are in rome,we should do the way the romans do. we must not mix two different astro-sciences. for example, in astrology moon and ketu are not friends but in numerology no.2 ( moon ) and no.7 ( ketu ) are best friends. sun and rahu are not friends in astrology but in numerology no.1 ( sun ) and no.4 ( rahu ) are best friends. in vastu , west of north-west opening is good but in lalkitab closing of west is good. Sh. KSK has written in his books that KP has nothing to do with umerology.( see page 100 of horary astrology--reader 6 ) This is not to offend anybody and i believe that there is always a scope for improvement. Regards Rajeev K Khattar - Punit Pandey <punitp Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:25 AM Astro-Numerology > Yash ji, > > Numbers are mostly used to narrow-down the results similar to ruling > planets. For example if we are calculating something related to > marriage/wife, we can take the sum of date of marriage and the planet > representing that number can be used as ruling planet. > > I have seen some people doing that and they say that it proved quite > useful to them. It can be used if someone wants to answer something > quickly (otherwise you will have to remember the ruling planets). It > is a proved fact that more sciences you will mix with astrology, you > will be able to get better results. For example in Lal Kitab, one can > use a mix of astrology, palmistry, phrenology, and Vastu etc. for > ascertaining something. > > There are few books available on Indian numerology (my friend was not > using Chero's or Sepherial's numerology) but in none of them I found > explanation of relation between astrology and numerology. > > Hope it will be helpful. > > Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > > - > Ice man <yashokumar > Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:04:58 -0000 > Re: horary for property > > > > I had also posted this same question in another site and a chap > called Ravi Kumar was using numerology along with astrology. Does > anyone here combine techniques and to what degree of success? > I have found a system for working up the lost property location and > success in finding it, it's not mine in idea but one that i have > adopted. I will write it up and upload it here this week. > Good wishes to all. > Yash > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > Yash ji, > > > > What is the relation between querent and person wanted to buy the > > property? In my opnion, this question can not be answered without > > knowing the relation. Who has given the number? > > > > It seems that you want to know on your relative's behalf. I have > found > > that accuracy improves manyfolds if the person, closely involved > with > > the query, gives the number. As the eagerness may not be profound > for > > non-involvers(or may be some other reason that I don't know). Is it > > possible to get the number directly from the person involved in the > > bidding? It can be the test of avobe belief too. > > > > Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > - > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> > > Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:02:55 +0530 > > horary for property..ice man > > > > Cc: l > > > > Dear Members > > My analysis of horary number 5 , worked out on 16th August 2004 at > 13:49:57 > > at Chennai is as follows : > > > > Moon,representing mind, is in the sign and sub of sun and in the > star of > > ketu > > ketu in in the sign of libra hence representing venus. > > ketu in 7,moon in 5,ven in 3 ownes 2 and 7 cusps. > > > > for property we should consider cusps no.4 ( prime cusp fpr > property ) ,11 > > fulfillment of desire ) ,and 12 ( expences i.e. payments made ) . > > > > moon is not connected to either 4 or 11 or 12. may be at the time > of > > question ,person was not seriously thinking of property but > matters related > > to cusps no.2,3,5,7 ( bank balance,spouse,entertainment,short > journey etc. > > ....how to get the money,property in the name of spouse etc ) > > > > 4th cusp sublord is venus ( posited in 3 and owner of 2 and 7 ) in > the star > > of Rahu ( rahu in sign of aries hence represents Mars ) > > > > mars owner of 1 and 8, posited in 5. > > > > 4th cusp sublord also not indicating 4,11 or 12. > > > > My judgement----the person will not be able to buy the property in > question. > > > > I request all other members also to participate and practice.we > all are > > equal here and we are here to learn. > > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Ice man <yashokumar> > > > > Sunday, August 15, 2004 2:04 PM > > Re: horary for property > > > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > Here is a case that you can try your hand on. A close relation is > > > trying to purchase a property here. > > > A brief background: In Scotland property is usually sold by > means of > > > a blind auction. The seller puts their house for sale and sets > the > > > minimum they expect. People then put in offers in a auction > style. > > > The seller then selects the person they wan to sell to, usually > the > > > highest bidder. > > > An offer has been made on 14th August and a formal one is being > > > submitted on 16th August. > > > The horary number chosen was 5. > > > Question: will my relative be succesful in buying this property? > > > I have cast a horary chart and uploaded it in the files section > of > > > this group site. I have indicated the significators and RP's at > the > > > time I considered it as well as what I was starting to do. I have > > > not put forward my conclusions as I did not wish to unduly > influence > > > anyone. You are welcome to discuss this case. results will > normally > > > be known within 2 weeks thus we can use this case and see how we > can > > > go about predicting property purchases usin horary. If we are > right > > > great if we get it incorrect we can do a postmortem and see what > we > > > should have done. > > > Yash > > > PS: Rajeevji I have been busy at work last week and have not been > > > able to compile the cases yet. I will try and do so and send it > > > directly to you soon. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Punitji and Rajeevji and all other colleagues At the risk of going off the track let me explain with an analogy. I am a physician by training with interest in internal medicine and a field known as clinical pharmacology a speciality which works with other specialities to introduce new medicines to patients and comparing it to current treatments. This is collected over a period of time and then our reports are submitted to a dept which will then deal with informing all doctors through bulletins publications etc. My area of research also includes drug discovery for some types of cancers and new antibiotic drugs. In almost all successful cases that I have seen and read about a number of disciplines contributed. I will relate the life story of a current drug for treatment of prostate cancer. First the receptors on the prostate were identified then the ones that were going wrong found and then the genes resposible for the cancer were mapped out and this allowed the formation of these cells to be done on a petri dish in the lab. Then a series of compounds were tested on these cells until a few hundred with the best potential selected and then structure of compound was related to activity using modelling and synthetic chemistry until there were a couple with the right structure that had the best effect found this was then tested for toxicity in normal humans before being passed on to synthetic chemists to synthesise it in large enough quantities for mass testing. Then after clinical trials it was finally put forward as a drug to treat cancer of prostate. As you can see the number of disciplines that had to be combined meant that a bit of knowledge of chemistry,genetics, toxicology etc allowed one to form a balanced picture of the whole process. If we are to predict an event say that person X is to win lottery on day z. if it means that we need to use a number of disciplines we should do so. A lot of science has completely changed and is constantly changing and WE ( all of us) are the driving force for astrology/numerology/palmistry etc. If the numerology is contradicting something in astrology then one of them is wrong as both cannot be correct and if the specialists in their fields help combine forces I feel we can all benefit as a end result KSK did a marvellous job and changed the way we look at astrology a change that was in contrast to what older pundits said but we all have seen the results of it. However not all the old is wrong and as long as we can an open mind and try and incorporate what is best from all the disciplines we can be able tto improve the accuracy and thus respect for astrology as the science it is. Sorry for a long winded explanation... but I do hope you can see where I am coming from. , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > Khattar ji, > > Even I believe the same. Mixing different predictive sciences can > hinder the learning process. I was not suggesting Yash ji to use > numerology. Yash ji just wanted to ask about astro-numerology and > fortunately one of my astrologer friend is using it with sufficient > success. > > Though it is not good to mix different branches with learning, I > believe, that all branches are same at the foundation. Can you imagine > lal kitab without vastu and palmistry? Lal Kitab is one book that > extended astrology to vastu and palmistry and even to phrenology. > Similarly, IMHO, astrology can be extended to numerology too. Even > Shri KSK was using totally unrelated science like omen with his > predictions (see fundamental principles of astrology). Rather, I must > say, he has strongly recommended it. What is your opinion? > > Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > - > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> > Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:50:26 +0530 > Re: Astro-Numerology > > > Dear Punit Ji > IMHO,when we are in rome,we should do the way the romans do. > we must not mix two different astro-sciences. > > for example, in astrology moon and ketu are not friends but in numerology > no.2 ( moon ) and no.7 ( ketu ) are best friends. > sun and rahu are not friends in astrology but in numerology no.1 ( sun ) and > no.4 ( rahu ) are best friends. > > in vastu , west of north-west opening is good but in lalkitab closing of > west is good. > > Sh. KSK has written in his books that KP has nothing to do with > umerology.( see page 100 of horary astrology--reader 6 ) > > This is not to offend anybody and i believe that there is always a scope for > improvement. > > Regards > Rajeev K Khattar > - > Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> > > Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:25 AM > Astro-Numerology > > > > Yash ji, > > > > Numbers are mostly used to narrow-down the results similar to ruling > > planets. For example if we are calculating something related to > > marriage/wife, we can take the sum of date of marriage and the planet > > representing that number can be used as ruling planet. > > > > I have seen some people doing that and they say that it proved quite > > useful to them. It can be used if someone wants to answer something > > quickly (otherwise you will have to remember the ruling planets). It > > is a proved fact that more sciences you will mix with astrology, you > > will be able to get better results. For example in Lal Kitab, one can > > use a mix of astrology, palmistry, phrenology, and Vastu etc. for > > ascertaining something. > > > > There are few books available on Indian numerology (my friend was not > > using Chero's or Sepherial's numerology) but in none of them I found > > explanation of relation between astrology and numerology. > > > > Hope it will be helpful. > > > > Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > - > > Ice man <yashokumar> > > Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:04:58 -0000 > > Re: horary for property > > > > > > > > I had also posted this same question in another site and a chap > > called Ravi Kumar was using numerology along with astrology. Does > > anyone here combine techniques and to what degree of success? > > I have found a system for working up the lost property location and > > success in finding it, it's not mine in idea but one that i have > > adopted. I will write it up and upload it here this week. > > Good wishes to all. > > Yash > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > Yash ji, > > > > > > What is the relation between querent and person wanted to buy the > > > property? In my opnion, this question can not be answered without > > > knowing the relation. Who has given the number? > > > > > > It seems that you want to know on your relative's behalf. I have > > found > > > that accuracy improves manyfolds if the person, closely involved > > with > > > the query, gives the number. As the eagerness may not be profound > > for > > > non-involvers(or may be some other reason that I don't know). Is it > > > possible to get the number directly from the person involved in the > > > bidding? It can be the test of avobe belief too. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > - > > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> > > > Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:02:55 +0530 > > > horary for property..ice man > > > > > > Cc: l > > > > > > Dear Members > > > My analysis of horary number 5 , worked out on 16th August 2004 at > > 13:49:57 > > > at Chennai is as follows : > > > > > > Moon,representing mind, is in the sign and sub of sun and in the > > star of > > > ketu > > > ketu in in the sign of libra hence representing venus. > > > ketu in 7,moon in 5,ven in 3 ownes 2 and 7 cusps. > > > > > > for property we should consider cusps no.4 ( prime cusp fpr > > property ) ,11 > > > fulfillment of desire ) ,and 12 ( expences i.e. payments made ) . > > > > > > moon is not connected to either 4 or 11 or 12. may be at the time > > of > > > question ,person was not seriously thinking of property but > > matters related > > > to cusps no.2,3,5,7 ( bank balance,spouse,entertainment,short > > journey etc. > > > ....how to get the money,property in the name of spouse etc ) > > > > > > 4th cusp sublord is venus ( posited in 3 and owner of 2 and 7 ) in > > the star > > > of Rahu ( rahu in sign of aries hence represents Mars ) > > > > > > mars owner of 1 and 8, posited in 5. > > > > > > 4th cusp sublord also not indicating 4,11 or 12. > > > > > > My judgement----the person will not be able to buy the property in > > question. > > > > > > I request all other members also to participate and practice.we > > all are > > > equal here and we are here to learn. > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Ice man <yashokumar> > > > > > > Sunday, August 15, 2004 2:04 PM > > > Re: horary for property > > > > > > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > Here is a case that you can try your hand on. A close relation is > > > > trying to purchase a property here. > > > > A brief background: In Scotland property is usually sold by > > means of > > > > a blind auction. The seller puts their house for sale and sets > > the > > > > minimum they expect. People then put in offers in a auction > > style. > > > > The seller then selects the person they wan to sell to, usually > > the > > > > highest bidder. > > > > An offer has been made on 14th August and a formal one is being > > > > submitted on 16th August. > > > > The horary number chosen was 5. > > > > Question: will my relative be succesful in buying this property? > > > > I have cast a horary chart and uploaded it in the files section > > of > > > > this group site. I have indicated the significators and RP's at > > the > > > > time I considered it as well as what I was starting to do. I have > > > > not put forward my conclusions as I did not wish to unduly > > influence > > > > anyone. You are welcome to discuss this case. results will > > normally > > > > be known within 2 weeks thus we can use this case and see how we > > can > > > > go about predicting property purchases usin horary. If we are > > right > > > > great if we get it incorrect we can do a postmortem and see what > > we > > > > should have done. > > > > Yash > > > > PS: Rajeevji I have been busy at work last week and have not been > > > > able to compile the cases yet. I will try and do so and send it > > > > directly to you soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Dear Punit Ji yes, i have also read Shri KSK using omens.i was already convinced about it before reading him. I also agree lalkitab using phrenology. somehow i am skeptical about mixing numerology and astrology.These are my personal views..not meant to offend anybody. can u give some examples how to use combination of numerology n astrology ? this will clear my doubts. thanks Rajeev K Khattar - Punit Pandey <punitp Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:17 PM Re: Astro-Numerology > Khattar ji, > > Even I believe the same. Mixing different predictive sciences can > hinder the learning process. I was not suggesting Yash ji to use > numerology. Yash ji just wanted to ask about astro-numerology and > fortunately one of my astrologer friend is using it with sufficient > success. > > Though it is not good to mix different branches with learning, I > believe, that all branches are same at the foundation. Can you imagine > lal kitab without vastu and palmistry? Lal Kitab is one book that > extended astrology to vastu and palmistry and even to phrenology. > Similarly, IMHO, astrology can be extended to numerology too. Even > Shri KSK was using totally unrelated science like omen with his > predictions (see fundamental principles of astrology). Rather, I must > say, he has strongly recommended it. What is your opinion? > > Regards, > > Punit Pandey > > > - > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab > Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:50:26 +0530 > Re: Astro-Numerology > > > Dear Punit Ji > IMHO,when we are in rome,we should do the way the romans do. > we must not mix two different astro-sciences. > > for example, in astrology moon and ketu are not friends but in numerology > no.2 ( moon ) and no.7 ( ketu ) are best friends. > sun and rahu are not friends in astrology but in numerology no.1 ( sun ) and > no.4 ( rahu ) are best friends. > > in vastu , west of north-west opening is good but in lalkitab closing of > west is good. > > Sh. KSK has written in his books that KP has nothing to do with > umerology.( see page 100 of horary astrology--reader 6 ) > > This is not to offend anybody and i believe that there is always a scope for > improvement. > > Regards > Rajeev K Khattar > - > Punit Pandey <punitp > > Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:25 AM > Astro-Numerology > > > > Yash ji, > > > > Numbers are mostly used to narrow-down the results similar to ruling > > planets. For example if we are calculating something related to > > marriage/wife, we can take the sum of date of marriage and the planet > > representing that number can be used as ruling planet. > > > > I have seen some people doing that and they say that it proved quite > > useful to them. It can be used if someone wants to answer something > > quickly (otherwise you will have to remember the ruling planets). It > > is a proved fact that more sciences you will mix with astrology, you > > will be able to get better results. For example in Lal Kitab, one can > > use a mix of astrology, palmistry, phrenology, and Vastu etc. for > > ascertaining something. > > > > There are few books available on Indian numerology (my friend was not > > using Chero's or Sepherial's numerology) but in none of them I found > > explanation of relation between astrology and numerology. > > > > Hope it will be helpful. > > > > Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > - > > Ice man <yashokumar > > Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:04:58 -0000 > > Re: horary for property > > > > > > > > I had also posted this same question in another site and a chap > > called Ravi Kumar was using numerology along with astrology. Does > > anyone here combine techniques and to what degree of success? > > I have found a system for working up the lost property location and > > success in finding it, it's not mine in idea but one that i have > > adopted. I will write it up and upload it here this week. > > Good wishes to all. > > Yash > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > Yash ji, > > > > > > What is the relation between querent and person wanted to buy the > > > property? In my opnion, this question can not be answered without > > > knowing the relation. Who has given the number? > > > > > > It seems that you want to know on your relative's behalf. I have > > found > > > that accuracy improves manyfolds if the person, closely involved > > with > > > the query, gives the number. As the eagerness may not be profound > > for > > > non-involvers(or may be some other reason that I don't know). Is it > > > possible to get the number directly from the person involved in the > > > bidding? It can be the test of avobe belief too. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > - > > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> > > > Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:02:55 +0530 > > > horary for property..ice man > > > > > > Cc: l > > > > > > Dear Members > > > My analysis of horary number 5 , worked out on 16th August 2004 at > > 13:49:57 > > > at Chennai is as follows : > > > > > > Moon,representing mind, is in the sign and sub of sun and in the > > star of > > > ketu > > > ketu in in the sign of libra hence representing venus. > > > ketu in 7,moon in 5,ven in 3 ownes 2 and 7 cusps. > > > > > > for property we should consider cusps no.4 ( prime cusp fpr > > property ) ,11 > > > fulfillment of desire ) ,and 12 ( expences i.e. payments made ) . > > > > > > moon is not connected to either 4 or 11 or 12. may be at the time > > of > > > question ,person was not seriously thinking of property but > > matters related > > > to cusps no.2,3,5,7 ( bank balance,spouse,entertainment,short > > journey etc. > > > ....how to get the money,property in the name of spouse etc ) > > > > > > 4th cusp sublord is venus ( posited in 3 and owner of 2 and 7 ) in > > the star > > > of Rahu ( rahu in sign of aries hence represents Mars ) > > > > > > mars owner of 1 and 8, posited in 5. > > > > > > 4th cusp sublord also not indicating 4,11 or 12. > > > > > > My judgement----the person will not be able to buy the property in > > question. > > > > > > I request all other members also to participate and practice.we > > all are > > > equal here and we are here to learn. > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Ice man <yashokumar> > > > > > > Sunday, August 15, 2004 2:04 PM > > > Re: horary for property > > > > > > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > Here is a case that you can try your hand on. A close relation is > > > > trying to purchase a property here. > > > > A brief background: In Scotland property is usually sold by > > means of > > > > a blind auction. The seller puts their house for sale and sets > > the > > > > minimum they expect. People then put in offers in a auction > > style. > > > > The seller then selects the person they wan to sell to, usually > > the > > > > highest bidder. > > > > An offer has been made on 14th August and a formal one is being > > > > submitted on 16th August. > > > > The horary number chosen was 5. > > > > Question: will my relative be succesful in buying this property? > > > > I have cast a horary chart and uploaded it in the files section > > of > > > > this group site. I have indicated the significators and RP's at > > the > > > > time I considered it as well as what I was starting to do. I have > > > > not put forward my conclusions as I did not wish to unduly > > influence > > > > anyone. You are welcome to discuss this case. results will > > normally > > > > be known within 2 weeks thus we can use this case and see how we > > can > > > > go about predicting property purchases usin horary. If we are > > right > > > > great if we get it incorrect we can do a postmortem and see what > > we > > > > should have done. > > > > Yash > > > > PS: Rajeevji I have been busy at work last week and have not been > > > > able to compile the cases yet. I will try and do so and send it > > > > directly to you soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Dear Yash Ji Thanks for your explainations. I agree with you and believe that most of open minded members will also agree. we need to have many examples to come to a conclusion.I request members to think and contribute some cases. I will try to do so. Regards Rajeev K Khattar - Ice man <yashokumar Wednesday, August 18, 2004 4:30 AM Re: Astro-Numerology > > Punitji and Rajeevji and all other colleagues > At the risk of going off the track let me explain with an analogy. > I am a physician by training with interest in internal medicine and > a field known as clinical pharmacology a speciality which works with > other specialities to introduce new medicines to patients and > comparing it to current treatments. This is collected over a period > of time and then our reports are submitted to a dept which will then > deal with informing all doctors through bulletins publications etc. > My area of research also includes drug discovery for some types of > cancers and new antibiotic drugs. In almost all successful cases > that I have seen and read about a number of disciplines contributed. > I will relate the life story of a current drug for treatment of > prostate cancer. First the receptors on the prostate were identified > then the ones that were going wrong found and then the genes > resposible for the cancer were mapped out and this allowed the > formation of these cells to be done on a petri dish in the lab. Then > a series of compounds were tested on these cells until a few hundred > with the best potential selected and then structure of compound was > related to activity using modelling and synthetic chemistry until > there were a couple with the right structure that had the best > effect found this was then tested for toxicity in normal humans > before being passed on to synthetic chemists to synthesise it in > large enough quantities for mass testing. Then after clinical trials > it was finally put forward as a drug to treat cancer of prostate. As > you can see the number of disciplines that had to be combined meant > that a bit of knowledge of chemistry,genetics, toxicology etc > allowed one to form a balanced picture of the whole process. If we > are to predict an event say that person X is to win lottery on day > z. if it means that we need to use a number of disciplines we should > do so. A lot of science has completely changed and is constantly > changing and WE ( all of us) are the driving force for > astrology/numerology/palmistry etc. If the numerology is > contradicting something in astrology then one of them is wrong as > both cannot be correct and if the specialists in their fields help > combine forces I feel we can all benefit as a end result KSK did a > marvellous job and changed the way we look at astrology a change > that was in contrast to what older pundits said but we all have seen > the results of it. However not all the old is wrong and as long as > we can an open mind and try and incorporate what is best from all > the disciplines we can be able tto improve the accuracy and thus > respect for astrology as the science it is. > Sorry for a long winded explanation... but I do hope you can see > where I am coming from. > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > Khattar ji, > > > > Even I believe the same. Mixing different predictive sciences can > > hinder the learning process. I was not suggesting Yash ji to use > > numerology. Yash ji just wanted to ask about astro-numerology and > > fortunately one of my astrologer friend is using it with sufficient > > success. > > > > Though it is not good to mix different branches with learning, I > > believe, that all branches are same at the foundation. Can you > imagine > > lal kitab without vastu and palmistry? Lal Kitab is one book that > > extended astrology to vastu and palmistry and even to phrenology. > > Similarly, IMHO, astrology can be extended to numerology too. Even > > Shri KSK was using totally unrelated science like omen with his > > predictions (see fundamental principles of astrology). Rather, I > must > > say, he has strongly recommended it. What is your opinion? > > > > Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > - > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> > > Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:50:26 +0530 > > Re: Astro-Numerology > > > > > > Dear Punit Ji > > IMHO,when we are in rome,we should do the way the romans do. > > we must not mix two different astro-sciences. > > > > for example, in astrology moon and ketu are not friends but in > numerology > > no.2 ( moon ) and no.7 ( ketu ) are best friends. > > sun and rahu are not friends in astrology but in numerology no.1 > sun ) and > > no.4 ( rahu ) are best friends. > > > > in vastu , west of north-west opening is good but in lalkitab > closing of > > west is good. > > > > Sh. KSK has written in his books that KP has nothing to do with > > umerology.( see page 100 of horary astrology--reader 6 ) > > > > This is not to offend anybody and i believe that there is always a > scope for > > improvement. > > > > Regards > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> > > > > Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:25 AM > > Astro-Numerology > > > > > > > Yash ji, > > > > > > Numbers are mostly used to narrow-down the results similar to > ruling > > > planets. For example if we are calculating something related to > > > marriage/wife, we can take the sum of date of marriage and the > planet > > > representing that number can be used as ruling planet. > > > > > > I have seen some people doing that and they say that it proved > quite > > > useful to them. It can be used if someone wants to answer > something > > > quickly (otherwise you will have to remember the ruling > planets). It > > > is a proved fact that more sciences you will mix with astrology, > you > > > will be able to get better results. For example in Lal Kitab, > one can > > > use a mix of astrology, palmistry, phrenology, and Vastu etc. for > > > ascertaining something. > > > > > > There are few books available on Indian numerology (my friend > was not > > > using Chero's or Sepherial's numerology) but in none of them I > found > > > explanation of relation between astrology and numerology. > > > > > > Hope it will be helpful. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Ice man <yashokumar> > > > Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:04:58 -0000 > > > Re: horary for property > > > > > > > > > > > > I had also posted this same question in another site and a chap > > > called Ravi Kumar was using numerology along with astrology. Does > > > anyone here combine techniques and to what degree of success? > > > I have found a system for working up the lost property location > and > > > success in finding it, it's not mine in idea but one that i have > > > adopted. I will write it up and upload it here this week. > > > Good wishes to all. > > > Yash > > > > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> > wrote: > > > > Yash ji, > > > > > > > > What is the relation between querent and person wanted to buy > the > > > > property? In my opnion, this question can not be answered > without > > > > knowing the relation. Who has given the number? > > > > > > > > It seems that you want to know on your relative's behalf. I > have > > > found > > > > that accuracy improves manyfolds if the person, closely > involved > > > with > > > > the query, gives the number. As the eagerness may not be > profound > > > for > > > > non-involvers(or may be some other reason that I don't know). > Is it > > > > possible to get the number directly from the person involved > in the > > > > bidding? It can be the test of avobe belief too. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> > > > > Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:02:55 +0530 > > > > horary for property..ice man > > > > > > > > Cc: l > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > > My analysis of horary number 5 , worked out on 16th August > 2004 at > > > 13:49:57 > > > > at Chennai is as follows : > > > > > > > > Moon,representing mind, is in the sign and sub of sun and in > the > > > star of > > > > ketu > > > > ketu in in the sign of libra hence representing venus. > > > > ketu in 7,moon in 5,ven in 3 ownes 2 and 7 cusps. > > > > > > > > for property we should consider cusps no.4 ( prime cusp fpr > > > property ) ,11 > > > > fulfillment of desire ) ,and 12 ( expences i.e. payments > made ) . > > > > > > > > moon is not connected to either 4 or 11 or 12. may be at the > time > > > of > > > > question ,person was not seriously thinking of property but > > > matters related > > > > to cusps no.2,3,5,7 ( bank balance,spouse,entertainment,short > > > journey etc. > > > > ....how to get the money,property in the name of spouse etc ) > > > > > > > > 4th cusp sublord is venus ( posited in 3 and owner of 2 and > 7 ) in > > > the star > > > > of Rahu ( rahu in sign of aries hence represents Mars ) > > > > > > > > mars owner of 1 and 8, posited in 5. > > > > > > > > 4th cusp sublord also not indicating 4,11 or 12. > > > > > > > > My judgement----the person will not be able to buy the > property in > > > question. > > > > > > > > I request all other members also to participate and practice.we > > > all are > > > > equal here and we are here to learn. > > > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Ice man <yashokumar> > > > > > > > > Sunday, August 15, 2004 2:04 PM > > > > Re: horary for property > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > > Here is a case that you can try your hand on. A close > relation is > > > > > trying to purchase a property here. > > > > > A brief background: In Scotland property is usually sold by > > > means of > > > > > a blind auction. The seller puts their house for sale and > sets > > > the > > > > > minimum they expect. People then put in offers in a auction > > > style. > > > > > The seller then selects the person they wan to sell to, > usually > > > the > > > > > highest bidder. > > > > > An offer has been made on 14th August and a formal one is > being > > > > > submitted on 16th August. > > > > > The horary number chosen was 5. > > > > > Question: will my relative be succesful in buying this > property? > > > > > I have cast a horary chart and uploaded it in the files > section > > > of > > > > > this group site. I have indicated the significators and RP's > at > > > the > > > > > time I considered it as well as what I was starting to do. I > have > > > > > not put forward my conclusions as I did not wish to unduly > > > influence > > > > > anyone. You are welcome to discuss this case. results will > > > normally > > > > > be known within 2 weeks thus we can use this case and see > how we > > > can > > > > > go about predicting property purchases usin horary. If we are > > > right > > > > > great if we get it incorrect we can do a postmortem and see > what > > > we > > > > > should have done. > > > > > Yash > > > > > PS: Rajeevji I have been busy at work last week and have not > been > > > > > able to compile the cases yet. I will try and do so and send > it > > > > > directly to you soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Rajeev ji, No question of offending. In fact, discussions always add something to one's knowledge. Regards, Punit Pandey On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 11:46:18 +0530, Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab wrote: > Dear Punit Ji > yes, i have also read Shri KSK using omens.i was already convinced about it > before reading him. I also agree lalkitab using phrenology. > somehow i am skeptical about mixing numerology and astrology.These are my > personal views..not meant to offend anybody. > can u give some examples how to use combination of numerology n astrology ? > this will clear my doubts. > thanks > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > - > Punit Pandey <punitp > > Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:17 PM > Re: Astro-Numerology > > > > Khattar ji, > > > > Even I believe the same. Mixing different predictive sciences can > > hinder the learning process. I was not suggesting Yash ji to use > > numerology. Yash ji just wanted to ask about astro-numerology and > > fortunately one of my astrologer friend is using it with sufficient > > success. > > > > Though it is not good to mix different branches with learning, I > > believe, that all branches are same at the foundation. Can you imagine > > lal kitab without vastu and palmistry? Lal Kitab is one book that > > extended astrology to vastu and palmistry and even to phrenology. > > Similarly, IMHO, astrology can be extended to numerology too. Even > > Shri KSK was using totally unrelated science like omen with his > > predictions (see fundamental principles of astrology). Rather, I must > > say, he has strongly recommended it. What is your opinion? > > > > Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > - > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab > > Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:50:26 +0530 > > Re: Astro-Numerology > > > > > > Dear Punit Ji > > IMHO,when we are in rome,we should do the way the romans do. > > we must not mix two different astro-sciences. > > > > for example, in astrology moon and ketu are not friends but in numerology > > no.2 ( moon ) and no.7 ( ketu ) are best friends. > > sun and rahu are not friends in astrology but in numerology no.1 ( sun ) > and > > no.4 ( rahu ) are best friends. > > > > in vastu , west of north-west opening is good but in lalkitab closing of > > west is good. > > > > Sh. KSK has written in his books that KP has nothing to do with > > umerology.( see page 100 of horary astrology--reader 6 ) > > > > This is not to offend anybody and i believe that there is always a scope > for > > improvement. > > > > Regards > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Punit Pandey <punitp > > > > Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:25 AM > > Astro-Numerology > > > > > > > Yash ji, > > > > > > Numbers are mostly used to narrow-down the results similar to ruling > > > planets. For example if we are calculating something related to > > > marriage/wife, we can take the sum of date of marriage and the planet > > > representing that number can be used as ruling planet. > > > > > > I have seen some people doing that and they say that it proved quite > > > useful to them. It can be used if someone wants to answer something > > > quickly (otherwise you will have to remember the ruling planets). It > > > is a proved fact that more sciences you will mix with astrology, you > > > will be able to get better results. For example in Lal Kitab, one can > > > use a mix of astrology, palmistry, phrenology, and Vastu etc. for > > > ascertaining something. > > > > > > There are few books available on Indian numerology (my friend was not > > > using Chero's or Sepherial's numerology) but in none of them I found > > > explanation of relation between astrology and numerology. > > > > > > Hope it will be helpful. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Ice man <yashokumar > > > Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:04:58 -0000 > > > Re: horary for property > > > > > > > > > > > > I had also posted this same question in another site and a chap > > > called Ravi Kumar was using numerology along with astrology. Does > > > anyone here combine techniques and to what degree of success? > > > I have found a system for working up the lost property location and > > > success in finding it, it's not mine in idea but one that i have > > > adopted. I will write it up and upload it here this week. > > > Good wishes to all. > > > Yash > > > > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > > > Yash ji, > > > > > > > > What is the relation between querent and person wanted to buy the > > > > property? In my opnion, this question can not be answered without > > > > knowing the relation. Who has given the number? > > > > > > > > It seems that you want to know on your relative's behalf. I have > > > found > > > > that accuracy improves manyfolds if the person, closely involved > > > with > > > > the query, gives the number. As the eagerness may not be profound > > > for > > > > non-involvers(or may be some other reason that I don't know). Is it > > > > possible to get the number directly from the person involved in the > > > > bidding? It can be the test of avobe belief too. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> > > > > Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:02:55 +0530 > > > > horary for property..ice man > > > > > > > > Cc: l > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > > My analysis of horary number 5 , worked out on 16th August 2004 at > > > 13:49:57 > > > > at Chennai is as follows : > > > > > > > > Moon,representing mind, is in the sign and sub of sun and in the > > > star of > > > > ketu > > > > ketu in in the sign of libra hence representing venus. > > > > ketu in 7,moon in 5,ven in 3 ownes 2 and 7 cusps. > > > > > > > > for property we should consider cusps no.4 ( prime cusp fpr > > > property ) ,11 > > > > fulfillment of desire ) ,and 12 ( expences i.e. payments made ) . > > > > > > > > moon is not connected to either 4 or 11 or 12. may be at the time > > > of > > > > question ,person was not seriously thinking of property but > > > matters related > > > > to cusps no.2,3,5,7 ( bank balance,spouse,entertainment,short > > > journey etc. > > > > ....how to get the money,property in the name of spouse etc ) > > > > > > > > 4th cusp sublord is venus ( posited in 3 and owner of 2 and 7 ) in > > > the star > > > > of Rahu ( rahu in sign of aries hence represents Mars ) > > > > > > > > mars owner of 1 and 8, posited in 5. > > > > > > > > 4th cusp sublord also not indicating 4,11 or 12. > > > > > > > > My judgement----the person will not be able to buy the property in > > > question. > > > > > > > > I request all other members also to participate and practice.we > > > all are > > > > equal here and we are here to learn. > > > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Ice man <yashokumar> > > > > > > > > Sunday, August 15, 2004 2:04 PM > > > > Re: horary for property > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > > Here is a case that you can try your hand on. A close relation is > > > > > trying to purchase a property here. > > > > > A brief background: In Scotland property is usually sold by > > > means of > > > > > a blind auction. The seller puts their house for sale and sets > > > the > > > > > minimum they expect. People then put in offers in a auction > > > style. > > > > > The seller then selects the person they wan to sell to, usually > > > the > > > > > highest bidder. > > > > > An offer has been made on 14th August and a formal one is being > > > > > submitted on 16th August. > > > > > The horary number chosen was 5. > > > > > Question: will my relative be succesful in buying this property? > > > > > I have cast a horary chart and uploaded it in the files section > > > of > > > > > this group site. I have indicated the significators and RP's at > > > the > > > > > time I considered it as well as what I was starting to do. I have > > > > > not put forward my conclusions as I did not wish to unduly > > > influence > > > > > anyone. You are welcome to discuss this case. results will > > > normally > > > > > be known within 2 weeks thus we can use this case and see how we > > > can > > > > > go about predicting property purchases usin horary. If we are > > > right > > > > > great if we get it incorrect we can do a postmortem and see what > > > we > > > > > should have done. > > > > > Yash > > > > > PS: Rajeevji I have been busy at work last week and have not been > > > > > able to compile the cases yet. I will try and do so and send it > > > > > directly to you soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 Friends, I have found the use of astro-numerology in Mr. Sheshadri Aiyyar's Book " New Techniques of Predictions. " Sheshadri Aiyyar is the person who invented the concept of Yogi-Avayogi planets and also explained usage of divisional charts. People who have used his methodologies, please comment. Regards, Punit Pandey - Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab Wed, 18 Aug 2004 12:53:37 +0530 Re: Re: Astro-Numerology Dear Yash Ji Thanks for your explainations. I agree with you and believe that most of open minded members will also agree. we need to have many examples to come to a conclusion.I request members to think and contribute some cases. I will try to do so. Regards Rajeev K Khattar - Ice man <yashokumar Wednesday, August 18, 2004 4:30 AM Re: Astro-Numerology > > Punitji and Rajeevji and all other colleagues > At the risk of going off the track let me explain with an analogy. > I am a physician by training with interest in internal medicine and > a field known as clinical pharmacology a speciality which works with > other specialities to introduce new medicines to patients and > comparing it to current treatments. This is collected over a period > of time and then our reports are submitted to a dept which will then > deal with informing all doctors through bulletins publications etc. > My area of research also includes drug discovery for some types of > cancers and new antibiotic drugs. In almost all successful cases > that I have seen and read about a number of disciplines contributed. > I will relate the life story of a current drug for treatment of > prostate cancer. First the receptors on the prostate were identified > then the ones that were going wrong found and then the genes > resposible for the cancer were mapped out and this allowed the > formation of these cells to be done on a petri dish in the lab. Then > a series of compounds were tested on these cells until a few hundred > with the best potential selected and then structure of compound was > related to activity using modelling and synthetic chemistry until > there were a couple with the right structure that had the best > effect found this was then tested for toxicity in normal humans > before being passed on to synthetic chemists to synthesise it in > large enough quantities for mass testing. Then after clinical trials > it was finally put forward as a drug to treat cancer of prostate. As > you can see the number of disciplines that had to be combined meant > that a bit of knowledge of chemistry,genetics, toxicology etc > allowed one to form a balanced picture of the whole process. If we > are to predict an event say that person X is to win lottery on day > z. if it means that we need to use a number of disciplines we should > do so. A lot of science has completely changed and is constantly > changing and WE ( all of us) are the driving force for > astrology/numerology/palmistry etc. If the numerology is > contradicting something in astrology then one of them is wrong as > both cannot be correct and if the specialists in their fields help > combine forces I feel we can all benefit as a end result KSK did a > marvellous job and changed the way we look at astrology a change > that was in contrast to what older pundits said but we all have seen > the results of it. However not all the old is wrong and as long as > we can an open mind and try and incorporate what is best from all > the disciplines we can be able tto improve the accuracy and thus > respect for astrology as the science it is. > Sorry for a long winded explanation... but I do hope you can see > where I am coming from. > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> wrote: > > Khattar ji, > > > > Even I believe the same. Mixing different predictive sciences can > > hinder the learning process. I was not suggesting Yash ji to use > > numerology. Yash ji just wanted to ask about astro-numerology and > > fortunately one of my astrologer friend is using it with sufficient > > success. > > > > Though it is not good to mix different branches with learning, I > > believe, that all branches are same at the foundation. Can you > imagine > > lal kitab without vastu and palmistry? Lal Kitab is one book that > > extended astrology to vastu and palmistry and even to phrenology. > > Similarly, IMHO, astrology can be extended to numerology too. Even > > Shri KSK was using totally unrelated science like omen with his > > predictions (see fundamental principles of astrology). Rather, I > must > > say, he has strongly recommended it. What is your opinion? > > > > Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > - > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> > > Tue, 17 Aug 2004 12:50:26 +0530 > > Re: Astro-Numerology > > > > > > Dear Punit Ji > > IMHO,when we are in rome,we should do the way the romans do. > > we must not mix two different astro-sciences. > > > > for example, in astrology moon and ketu are not friends but in > numerology > > no.2 ( moon ) and no.7 ( ketu ) are best friends. > > sun and rahu are not friends in astrology but in numerology no.1 > sun ) and > > no.4 ( rahu ) are best friends. > > > > in vastu , west of north-west opening is good but in lalkitab > closing of > > west is good. > > > > Sh. KSK has written in his books that KP has nothing to do with > > umerology.( see page 100 of horary astrology--reader 6 ) > > > > This is not to offend anybody and i believe that there is always a > scope for > > improvement. > > > > Regards > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> > > > > Tuesday, August 17, 2004 11:25 AM > > Astro-Numerology > > > > > > > Yash ji, > > > > > > Numbers are mostly used to narrow-down the results similar to > ruling > > > planets. For example if we are calculating something related to > > > marriage/wife, we can take the sum of date of marriage and the > planet > > > representing that number can be used as ruling planet. > > > > > > I have seen some people doing that and they say that it proved > quite > > > useful to them. It can be used if someone wants to answer > something > > > quickly (otherwise you will have to remember the ruling > planets). It > > > is a proved fact that more sciences you will mix with astrology, > you > > > will be able to get better results. For example in Lal Kitab, > one can > > > use a mix of astrology, palmistry, phrenology, and Vastu etc. for > > > ascertaining something. > > > > > > There are few books available on Indian numerology (my friend > was not > > > using Chero's or Sepherial's numerology) but in none of them I > found > > > explanation of relation between astrology and numerology. > > > > > > Hope it will be helpful. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Ice man <yashokumar> > > > Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:04:58 -0000 > > > Re: horary for property > > > > > > > > > > > > I had also posted this same question in another site and a chap > > > called Ravi Kumar was using numerology along with astrology. Does > > > anyone here combine techniques and to what degree of success? > > > I have found a system for working up the lost property location > and > > > success in finding it, it's not mine in idea but one that i have > > > adopted. I will write it up and upload it here this week. > > > Good wishes to all. > > > Yash > > > > > > > > > , Punit Pandey <punitp@g...> > wrote: > > > > Yash ji, > > > > > > > > What is the relation between querent and person wanted to buy > the > > > > property? In my opnion, this question can not be answered > without > > > > knowing the relation. Who has given the number? > > > > > > > > It seems that you want to know on your relative's behalf. I > have > > > found > > > > that accuracy improves manyfolds if the person, closely > involved > > > with > > > > the query, gives the number. As the eagerness may not be > profound > > > for > > > > non-involvers(or may be some other reason that I don't know). > Is it > > > > possible to get the number directly from the person involved > in the > > > > bidding? It can be the test of avobe belief too. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> > > > > Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:02:55 +0530 > > > > horary for property..ice man > > > > > > > > Cc: l > > > > > > > > Dear Members > > > > My analysis of horary number 5 , worked out on 16th August > 2004 at > > > 13:49:57 > > > > at Chennai is as follows : > > > > > > > > Moon,representing mind, is in the sign and sub of sun and in > the > > > star of > > > > ketu > > > > ketu in in the sign of libra hence representing venus. > > > > ketu in 7,moon in 5,ven in 3 ownes 2 and 7 cusps. > > > > > > > > for property we should consider cusps no.4 ( prime cusp fpr > > > property ) ,11 > > > > fulfillment of desire ) ,and 12 ( expences i.e. payments > made ) . > > > > > > > > moon is not connected to either 4 or 11 or 12. may be at the > time > > > of > > > > question ,person was not seriously thinking of property but > > > matters related > > > > to cusps no.2,3,5,7 ( bank balance,spouse,entertainment,short > > > journey etc. > > > > ....how to get the money,property in the name of spouse etc ) > > > > > > > > 4th cusp sublord is venus ( posited in 3 and owner of 2 and > 7 ) in > > > the star > > > > of Rahu ( rahu in sign of aries hence represents Mars ) > > > > > > > > mars owner of 1 and 8, posited in 5. > > > > > > > > 4th cusp sublord also not indicating 4,11 or 12. > > > > > > > > My judgement----the person will not be able to buy the > property in > > > question. > > > > > > > > I request all other members also to participate and practice.we > > > all are > > > > equal here and we are here to learn. > > > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Ice man <yashokumar> > > > > > > > > Sunday, August 15, 2004 2:04 PM > > > > Re: horary for property > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Colleagues, > > > > > Here is a case that you can try your hand on. A close > relation is > > > > > trying to purchase a property here. > > > > > A brief background: In Scotland property is usually sold by > > > means of > > > > > a blind auction. The seller puts their house for sale and > sets > > > the > > > > > minimum they expect. People then put in offers in a auction > > > style. > > > > > The seller then selects the person they wan to sell to, > usually > > > the > > > > > highest bidder. > > > > > An offer has been made on 14th August and a formal one is > being > > > > > submitted on 16th August. > > > > > The horary number chosen was 5. > > > > > Question: will my relative be succesful in buying this > property? > > > > > I have cast a horary chart and uploaded it in the files > section > > > of > > > > > this group site. I have indicated the significators and RP's > at > > > the > > > > > time I considered it as well as what I was starting to do. I > have > > > > > not put forward my conclusions as I did not wish to unduly > > > influence > > > > > anyone. You are welcome to discuss this case. results will > > > normally > > > > > be known within 2 weeks thus we can use this case and see > how we > > > can > > > > > go about predicting property purchases usin horary. If we are > > > right > > > > > great if we get it incorrect we can do a postmortem and see > what > > > we > > > > > should have done. > > > > > Yash > > > > > PS: Rajeevji I have been busy at work last week and have not > been > > > > > able to compile the cases yet. I will try and do so and send > it > > > > > directly to you soon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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