Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Excuse me for saying so, but if RPs fail sometimes miserably, then what about the claims of Sri KSK and others that RPs never fail to guide? How can then we use RPs with confidence if we do not know whether for a particular analysis they will guide correctly or not? About the question of strong urge..how do we measure the strength of our own urge? I think whenever we sit for an analysis we do have strong urge otherwise we would not be ready to spare the time required for analysis. Moreover, we should also remember that Sri KSK used to say that the analysis would only be completed if the RPs match correctly, otherwise there would be disturbances and the astrologer would not be able to complete the analysis. One thought keeps recurring in my mind. I think the astrologer should take into account some factors about himself. He must first find out whether the time when he is sitting for analysis is favourable to him or not. If it is then he will be able to predict correctly otherwise his predictions will fail. Now, the question is how to judge whether the time one is taking up some question for analysis is favourable to him or not. I think that if we can find out this then probably most of our predictions will be correct. Please post your opinions on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Dear Amit, Astrology is the secret of secrets of God. Kp-ji often says God will guide you. From this I must say please pray at least one hour Lord Shiva & Mother Kali. You must be guided by their mercy. Regarding RPs, cast a horary chart see the related houses for which you are eager to know by Sub-sub lord through 1-249 numbers. If either Ascendant or Moon passes through the related houses or aspected by the Strong RP by the horary chart or the RPs of the chart you are searching then you may conirm that this will ensure your results. Next see D-A-P-S lords must be passed by the RPs. Any time at any place you may cast horary but before doing this you must pray at least 5 minutes. What I told you today is the secret of secrets I never told it to anybody. Do practise - experience will prove this fully. Astrologically yours SIDDHARTHA KP RESEARCHER --- amit1201 <ashok_12_66 wrote: > Excuse me for saying so, but if RPs fail sometimes > miserably, then > what about the claims of Sri KSK and others that RPs > never fail to > guide? How can then we use RPs with confidence if we > do not know > whether for a particular analysis they will guide > correctly or not? > > About the question of strong urge..how do we measure > the strength of > our own urge? I think whenever we sit for an > analysis we do have > strong urge otherwise we would not be ready to spare > the time > required for analysis. Moreover, we should also > remember that Sri KSK > used to say that the analysis would only be > completed if the RPs > match correctly, otherwise there would be > disturbances and the > astrologer would not be able to complete the > analysis. > > One thought keeps recurring in my mind. I think the > astrologer should > take into account some factors about himself. He > must first find out > whether the time when he is sitting for analysis is > favourable to him > or not. If it is then he will be able to predict > correctly otherwise > his predictions will fail. Now, the question is how > to judge whether > the time one is taking up some question for analysis > is favourable to > him or not. > > I think that if we can find out this then probably > most of our > predictions will be correct. > > Please post your opinions on this. > > > The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Dear Amit, Astrology is the secret of secrets of God. Kp-ji often says God will guide you. From this I must say please pray at least one hour Lord Shiva & Mother Kali. You must be guided by their mercy. Regarding RPs, cast a horary chart see the related houses for which you are eager to know by Sub-sub lord through 1-249 numbers. If either Ascendant or Moon passes through the related houses or aspected by the Strong RP by the horary chart or the RPs of the chart you are searching then you may conirm that this will ensure your results. Next see D-A-P-S lords must be passed by the RPs. Any time at any place you may cast horary but before doing this you must pray at least 5 minutes. What I told you today is the secret of secrets I never told it to anybody. Do practise - experience will prove this fully. Astrologically yours SIDDHARTHA KP RESEARCHER --- amit1201 <ashok_12_66 wrote: > Excuse me for saying so, but if RPs fail sometimes > miserably, then > what about the claims of Sri KSK and others that RPs > never fail to > guide? How can then we use RPs with confidence if we > do not know > whether for a particular analysis they will guide > correctly or not? > > About the question of strong urge..how do we measure > the strength of > our own urge? I think whenever we sit for an > analysis we do have > strong urge otherwise we would not be ready to spare > the time > required for analysis. Moreover, we should also > remember that Sri KSK > used to say that the analysis would only be > completed if the RPs > match correctly, otherwise there would be > disturbances and the > astrologer would not be able to complete the > analysis. > > One thought keeps recurring in my mind. I think the > astrologer should > take into account some factors about himself. He > must first find out > whether the time when he is sitting for analysis is > favourable to him > or not. If it is then he will be able to predict > correctly otherwise > his predictions will fail. Now, the question is how > to judge whether > the time one is taking up some question for analysis > is favourable to > him or not. > > I think that if we can find out this then probably > most of our > predictions will be correct. > > Please post your opinions on this. > > > The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 Ashok ji, You have made some great points. I think these are some must-discuss points in KP System. I am trying to put my views on all your points one by one. Find my opinion as follows - You might be knowing that Sri KSK was expert of many astrological systems other than KP System. He was expert of Progression, Aspects, Western System, Traditional (Parashara, Kalidasa, Varahamihira etc.), 108 based Kalidasa Horary etc. etc. etc. You will find that he has himself mentioned/used all these systems in his readers here and there. What I meant to say is, Sri KSK internally used to use all these systems for making successful predictions. You will see that he has used those systems very accurately. He used to say that all systems must yield the same result, if the system is accurate (in probably III reader). It is also written (again probably in III reader) that he was going to write some book on progression. As I told you before, I guess, he was mixing theory of Varahamihira with his own theory of RP internally; and to try to make everything simple, he didn't mention it right there. Regarding urge, I was telling about the urge of person asking question and not of the astrologer. I have seen without the strong urge of horary native, predictions fail. For all predictions, neither we (the astrologers) have the same level of urge nor native. Sometimes the urge is more and sometimes less, sometimes we are making predictions very casually. What I meant to say, on times even the urge of astrologer varies. Regarding your third point, when someone say (read Sri KSK) that some branch of Astrology is 100% correct, he didn't mean that one should check his/her own horoscope. So I cannot say that how/much impact one's horoscope has on his predictions???? It is always a point of great discussion, but I don't want to discuss it, it will be unending and shift our focus on something less useful. I have discussed it a lot on some other group. Regards, Punit Pandey amit1201 <ashok_12_66 wrote: Excuse me for saying so, but if RPs fail sometimes miserably, then what about the claims of Sri KSK and others that RPs never fail to guide? How can then we use RPs with confidence if we do not know whether for a particular analysis they will guide correctly or not? About the question of strong urge..how do we measure the strength of our own urge? I think whenever we sit for an analysis we do have strong urge otherwise we would not be ready to spare the time required for analysis. Moreover, we should also remember that Sri KSK used to say that the analysis would only be completed if the RPs match correctly, otherwise there would be disturbances and the astrologer would not be able to complete the analysis. One thought keeps recurring in my mind. I think the astrologer should take into account some factors about himself. He must first find out whether the time when he is sitting for analysis is favourable to him or not. If it is then he will be able to predict correctly otherwise his predictions will fail. Now, the question is how to judge whether the time one is taking up some question for analysis is favourable to him or not.I think that if we can find out this then probably most of our predictions will be correct. Please post your opinions on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 Dear Punit ji and Ashok ji, Hope that both of you are quite cheerful and good sprits. I would like to quote one line which was written by Mr. Siddharth in one of the post to me in this group. He said after getting basics from the kpreaders, one should do his own resarch. Well, upto some extent I agree with him. I do agree with Punit ji that all systems should give the same readings. I have read quite a few books and every book has shown different way. Few writters are using the western aspects, few are not, even in 6th reader also the use of aspect is not there but in reader " married life and children " aspects to cusps have been considered. In astrosecrets II , chapters on Rps are there which tell something different than in the book " kp and rp ". In nutshell, the consistancy in the application of rules are not there. This shows that some link is missing which is not there in the books. But, as a student one has to explore more on this topic and share with each other. And it is also expected that an open unbaised feedback should come from all of us for better understanding. with regards, Anurodh. The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Dear Anurodh ji and friends, When I first started learning Parashari astrology, I was analyzing everything using Parashari astrology i.e. lagna chart, moon chart, sudershan chakra, bhava madhya chakra, different dasha systems and ashtakvarga etc. Then I started learning KP system and my why of analysis changed drastically; I stopped answering "what" and started answering "when" every-time. Instead of predicting exact nature of events, I tried to predict timings (which, as we know, is very easy using KP.) Then I learnt few other methods/systems and always new method become more impactful and old one somewhat less impactful. I automatically used to start using new system more and old system less. I am sure it happens with every astrologers. The point I want to make here is that an astrologer has different approach of judgment on different times. KP readers are written over a period of time and at some time Sri KSK were researching one method and other-time other. I don't know when exactly he had written those readers but it shows his research over a period of time. Sometimes he was using traditional aspects, sometimes western aspects, sometimes progression, sometimes kalidasa and parashari methods etc. And it reflects in readers Regards, Punit Pandey Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote: Dear Punit ji and Ashok ji, Hope that both of you are quite cheerful and good sprits. I would like to quote one line which was written by Mr. Siddharth in one of the post to me in this group. He said after getting basics from the kpreaders, one should do his own resarch. Well, upto some extent I agree with him. I do agree with Punit ji that all systems should give the same readings. I have read quite a few books and every book has shown different way. Few writters are using the western aspects, few are not, even in 6th reader also the use of aspect is not there but in reader " married life and children " aspects to cusps have been considered. In astrosecrets II , chapters on Rps are there which tell something different than in the book " kp and rp ". In nutshell, the consistancy in the application of rules are not there. This shows that some link is missing which is not there in the books. But, as a student one has to explore more on this topic and share with each other. And it is also expected that an open unbaised feedback should come from all of us for better understanding. with regards, Anurodh. The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Dear Punit ji, I agree with you. Before learning kp I was reading SA . Now, I am more in kp. As far as the principles are concern I am practicing them and finding rasons for every sucessful and failed predictions. Now a days I am more on divorce cases and have found many things. I will surly share with the group about my findings. These findings are just a way to understand the basics of kp much better especially the students like we are. regards, Anurodh.Punit Pandey <pandeypunit wrote: Dear Anurodh ji and friends, When I first started learning Parashari astrology, I was analyzing everything using Parashari astrology i.e. lagna chart, moon chart, sudershan chakra, bhava madhya chakra, different dasha systems and ashtakvarga etc. Then I started learning KP system and my why of analysis changed drastically; I stopped answering "what" and started answering "when" every-time. Instead of predicting exact nature of events, I tried to predict timings (which, as we know, is very easy using KP.) Then I learnt few other methods/systems and always new method become more impactful and old one somewhat less impactful. I automatically used to start using new system more and old system less. I am sure it happens with every astrologers. The point I want to make here is that an astrologer has different approach of judgment on different times. KP readers are written over a period of time and at some time Sri KSK were researching one method and other-time other. I don't know when exactly he had written those readers but it shows his research over a period of time. Sometimes he was using traditional aspects, sometimes western aspects, sometimes progression, sometimes kalidasa and parashari methods etc. And it reflects in readers Regards, Punit Pandey Anurodh Kumar <anurodh1 wrote: Dear Punit ji and Ashok ji, Hope that both of you are quite cheerful and good sprits. I would like to quote one line which was written by Mr. Siddharth in one of the post to me in this group. He said after getting basics from the kpreaders, one should do his own resarch. Well, upto some extent I agree with him. I do agree with Punit ji that all systems should give the same readings. I have read quite a few books and every book has shown different way. Few writters are using the western aspects, few are not, even in 6th reader also the use of aspect is not there but in reader " married life and children " aspects to cusps have been considered. In astrosecrets II , chapters on Rps are there which tell something different than in the book " kp and rp ". In nutshell, the consistancy in the application of rules are not there. This shows that some link is missing which is not there in the books. But, as a student one has to explore more on this topic and share with each other. And it is also expected that an open unbaised feedback should come from all of us for better understanding. with regards, Anurodh. The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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