Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Dear List, Does somebody know if Day light savings time was observed in Charleston, West Virginia, USA in 1957 or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Hello dear Rajeev, As per Astro.com it was not applicable. Best wishes. - Rajeev Bharol satva ; ; samva Tuesday, March 24, 2009 8:46 AM DST question. Dear List, Does somebody know if Day light savings time was observed in Charleston, West Virginia, USA in 1957 or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Dear Rajeev, Try: http://www.timeanddate.com/ Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , Rajeev Bharol <rajeev.bharol wrote: > > Dear List, > Does somebody know if Day light savings time was observed in Charleston, > West Virginia, USA in 1957 or not? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Rajeev Bharol wrote: > Dear List, > Does somebody know if Day light savings time was observed in Charleston, > West Virginia, USA in 1957 or not? > > Charleston observed DST from April 28th through September 29th in 1957. DST in the US until it became standardized is a mess. For questions like these it is often good to have the ACS Atlas books since they will give you tables for the start and end dates. They are available in paperback too. Online sites generally do not have historical data just the current zone. And be careful there as the zones are figuring out the time at a location from GMT not GMT from a location which is what we use in astrology. For most locations in the US from 1968 DST was standardized. There is an open source SDK for time zones which I've downloaded but haven't looked into its implementation (has more data than we need) and is good for dates beyond 1970. Too bad all birth data was not reported in UTC which would have simplified the situation. In so many areas such as West Virginia one city might be on DST and another decided not to (there are a number of tables for WV). What a mess! That's why it took a lot of research for ACS to come up with the books and software. And research shows that DST does not save any energy. In fact it may waste more especially when the moved the start in the US up to the first weekend of March. People get up in the morning when its colder and run an extra hour of heat to warm the house. You have to watch out for drivers the first week as many have a case of jet lag due to the DST change. People tell me they love DST for the extra hour of sunlight and I ask them why not go to work an hour earlier if they want that? Many jobs in the US have flextime where you can set your own hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Thanks Dear Brian, Thor and for your quick replies.On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Brian Conrad <brianjtools wrote: Rajeev Bharol wrote: > Dear List, > Does somebody know if Day light savings time was observed in Charleston, > West Virginia, USA in 1957 or not? > > Charleston observed DST from April 28th through September 29th in 1957. DST in the US until it became standardized is a mess. For questions like these it is often good to have the ACS Atlas books since they will give you tables for the start and end dates. They are available in paperback too. Online sites generally do not have historical data just the current zone. And be careful there as the zones are figuring out the time at a location from GMT not GMT from a location which is what we use in astrology. For most locations in the US from 1968 DST was standardized. There is an open source SDK for time zones which I've downloaded but haven't looked into its implementation (has more data than we need) and is good for dates beyond 1970. Too bad all birth data was not reported in UTC which would have simplified the situation. In so many areas such as West Virginia one city might be on DST and another decided not to (there are a number of tables for WV). What a mess! That's why it took a lot of research for ACS to come up with the books and software. And research shows that DST does not save any energy. In fact it may waste more especially when the moved the start in the US up to the first weekend of March. People get up in the morning when its colder and run an extra hour of heat to warm the house. You have to watch out for drivers the first week as many have a case of jet lag due to the DST change. People tell me they love DST for the extra hour of sunlight and I ask them why not go to work an hour earlier if they want that? Many jobs in the US have flextime where you can set your own hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Let me further comment that astrologers have become a little lazy since they've been using computers. Astrologers, when they had to do charts by hand learned about atlases, time zones and even some astronomy. Nowadays people don't want to even learn astrology and even have the programs give out readings that they can make appear to be giving on their own. At one time people would even know that a town was near a major city (they might have to ask the client) and could figure out the proper ascendant from that information by applying a little math. Rajeev Bharol wrote: > Thanks Dear Brian, Thor and for your quick replies. > > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Brian Conrad <brianjtoolswrote: > > >> Rajeev Bharol wrote: >> >>> Dear List, >>> Does somebody know if Day light savings time was observed in Charleston, >>> West Virginia, USA in 1957 or not? >>> >>> >>> >> Charleston observed DST from April 28th through September 29th in 1957. >> DST in the US until it became standardized is a mess. For questions >> like these it is often good to have the ACS Atlas books since they will >> give you tables for the start and end dates. They are available in >> paperback too. Online sites generally do not have historical data just >> the current zone. And be careful there as the zones are figuring out >> the time at a location from GMT not GMT from a location which is what we >> use in astrology. For most locations in the US from 1968 DST was >> standardized. There is an open source SDK for time zones which I've >> downloaded but haven't looked into its implementation (has more data >> than we need) and is good for dates beyond 1970. Too bad all birth data >> was not reported in UTC which would have simplified the situation. >> >> In so many areas such as West Virginia one city might be on DST and >> another decided not to (there are a number of tables for WV). What a >> mess! That's why it took a lot of research for ACS to come up with the >> books and software. >> >> And research shows that DST does not save any energy. In fact it may >> waste more especially when the moved the start in the US up to the first >> weekend of March. People get up in the morning when its colder and run >> an extra hour of heat to warm the house. You have to watch out for >> drivers the first week as many have a case of jet lag due to the DST >> change. People tell me they love DST for the extra hour of sunlight and >> I ask them why not go to work an hour earlier if they want that? Many >> jobs in the US have flextime where you can set your own hours. >> >> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 I don't know whether to call them 'Good old days'.I remember doing full chart by hand for my friend few years ago. It took me several hours to make that chart.I remember days using 'Panchang' to make a chart. In fact most astrologers in rural India do it manually.(And I have found incorrect/approximate calculations in some charts).Good thing about using software is that it saves time.I agree that depending upon software should not mean we should not know how to do it manually. On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Brian Conrad <brianjtools wrote: Let me further comment that astrologers have become a little lazy since they've been using computers. Astrologers, when they had to do charts by hand learned about atlases, time zones and even some astronomy. Nowadays people don't want to even learn astrology and even have the programs give out readings that they can make appear to be giving on their own. At one time people would even know that a town was near a major city (they might have to ask the client) and could figure out the proper ascendant from that information by applying a little math. Rajeev Bharol wrote: > Thanks Dear Brian, Thor and for your quick replies. > > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Brian Conrad <brianjtoolswrote: > > >> Rajeev Bharol wrote: >> >>> Dear List, >>> Does somebody know if Day light savings time was observed in Charleston, >>> West Virginia, USA in 1957 or not? >>> >>> >>> >> Charleston observed DST from April 28th through September 29th in 1957. >> DST in the US until it became standardized is a mess. For questions >> like these it is often good to have the ACS Atlas books since they will >> give you tables for the start and end dates. They are available in >> paperback too. Online sites generally do not have historical data just >> the current zone. And be careful there as the zones are figuring out >> the time at a location from GMT not GMT from a location which is what we >> use in astrology. For most locations in the US from 1968 DST was >> standardized. There is an open source SDK for time zones which I've >> downloaded but haven't looked into its implementation (has more data >> than we need) and is good for dates beyond 1970. Too bad all birth data >> was not reported in UTC which would have simplified the situation. >> >> In so many areas such as West Virginia one city might be on DST and >> another decided not to (there are a number of tables for WV). What a >> mess! That's why it took a lot of research for ACS to come up with the >> books and software. >> >> And research shows that DST does not save any energy. In fact it may >> waste more especially when the moved the start in the US up to the first >> weekend of March. People get up in the morning when its colder and run >> an extra hour of heat to warm the house. You have to watch out for >> drivers the first week as many have a case of jet lag due to the DST >> change. People tell me they love DST for the extra hour of sunlight and >> I ask them why not go to work an hour earlier if they want that? Many >> jobs in the US have flextime where you can set your own hours. >> >> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 in my book "Time Changes In The USA" by Doris Chase Doane, the city of Charleston, West Virginia was indeed on Daylight Saving Time in 1957. from April 28 thru September 29 of 1957. in Ms. Doane's time changes book, she also accurately mentioned that I was born during Daylight Saving Time. when I did my chart on www.astro.com, I had to manually change the time because it did not recognize that I was born during daylight saving time. once I did change the time, astro chart did agree with my other charts. if you don't have her time change books, I would recommend an investment in them. they are an amazing body of work. also, since we are blessed to be living in the age of the internet, it is very easy to get ahold of local libraries and confirm, for your own peace of mind, that you have the real time. I know I look in the time change book first, astro second, but if it is a state like Indiana, I make the phone call or send the e-mail. there is just way too much confusion in the state of Indiana for me not to do some further investigative work. good luck with your charts, I would be interested in hearing other investigative techniques and others' investigative adventures with time. certainly there is nothing more frustrating or annoying than to put a lot of time, energy and effort into a chart and find out you were working with the wrong one--much better to put the work effort in the beginning of the endeavor. bright blessings to all, kimmer at kimmertom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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