Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Dear Professor, I have a question on early termination of marriage. In the attached chart I am not sure how to read the event. The chart is of a person, who unfortunately lost her husband in middle July, 2008. She was in the middle of her pregnancy at that time. Feb 7,1984 Time: 6:32PM Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 Longitude: 86E56 Latitude: 21N30 In this chart, - Saturn, 7th house lord is exalted in the 3rd house, but debilitated in the Navamsa - It is under the benefic influence of the 9th house lord - The ascendant and the 2nd house lord are in the 6th house - Sun is under the mild wide influence of Ra - 12th lord is in the 8th house, but not afflicting it - Venus is strong and well placed in the 5th house - Jupiter is strong and well placed in own house The primary significator of marriage is weak and unafflicted. The secondary significators are also weak and unafflicted although Venus and Jupiter and strong, well placed and unafflicted. The native was running Ve/Ju during July 2008 - both strong benefics. Based on all these points, I am not sure how to see widowhood in this chart. I would be grateful if you could provide your advice. In transit, I can see the natal moon under severe affliction from transit Ketu. However, it is not clear how this transit could supercede the dasa/bhukti and cause such a horrific event. thanks, Rama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Hello dear Rama, Both primary and secondary determinants are weak in the chart. The placement of the twelfth lord in the eighth house also indicates loss of span of marital life. At the time of the death there was strong exact stationary affliction of Ketu from the 12th house on the lord of the 12th house placed in the eighth house. Transit can supercede the sub period results when it is strongly unfavorable as in this case. If you read the book, How to Identify Significant Events, it is clearly mentioned there. That is why the continuous performance of propitiatory remedies is suggested for the functional malefics. Best wishes. - Rama Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:19 PM Question on widowhood? Dear Professor, I have a question on early termination of marriage. In the attached chart I am not sure how to read the event. The chart is of a person, who unfortunately lost her husband in middle July, 2008. She was in the middle of her pregnancy at that time. Feb 7,1984 Time: 6:32PM Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 Longitude: 86E56 Latitude: 21N30 In this chart, - Saturn, 7th house lord is exalted in the 3rd house, but debilitated in the Navamsa - It is under the benefic influence of the 9th house lord - The ascendant and the 2nd house lord are in the 6th house - Sun is under the mild wide influence of Ra - 12th lord is in the 8th house, but not afflicting it - Venus is strong and well placed in the 5th house - Jupiter is strong and well placed in own house The primary significator of marriage is weak and unafflicted. The secondary significators are also weak and unafflicted although Venus and Jupiter and strong, well placed and unafflicted. The native was running Ve/Ju during July 2008 - both strong benefics. Based on all these points, I am not sure how to see widowhood in this chart. I would be grateful if you could provide your advice. In transit, I can see the natal moon under severe affliction from transit Ketu. However, it is not clear how this transit could supercede the dasa/bhukti and cause such a horrific event. thanks, Rama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Respected Professor , As we dont know the exact date of termination , but if we look at transits on 17th July , we observe that 1. Moon(MMP) is in exact conjunction with Jupiter . 2. Saturn(7L) is turning more weak due to its Transit-Dispositer Sun is in deep infancy while travelling through 12H.Resulting into Saturn (primary determinator) and Sun (Asc Lord) weaker in transit also . Do these 2 points add to the query raised ,If the date is same as above . Best Regards sachin SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote: Hello dear Rama, Both primary and secondary determinants are weak in the chart. The placement of the twelfth lord in the eighth house also indicates loss of span of marital life. At the time of the death there was strong exact stationary affliction of Ketu from the 12th house on the lord of the 12th house placed in the eighth house. Transit can supercede the sub period results when it is strongly unfavorable as in this case. If you read the book, How to Identify Significant Events, it is clearly mentioned there. That is why the continuous performance of propitiatory remedies is suggested for the functional malefics. Best wishes. - Rama Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:19 PM Question on widowhood? Dear Professor, I have a question on early termination of marriage. In the attached chart I am not sure how to read the event. The chart is of a person, who unfortunately lost her husband in middle July, 2008. She was in the middle of her pregnancy at that time. Feb 7,1984 Time: 6:32PM Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 Longitude: 86E56 Latitude: 21N30 In this chart, - Saturn, 7th house lord is exalted in the 3rd house, but debilitated in the Navamsa - It is under the benefic influence of the 9th house lord - The ascendant and the 2nd house lord are in the 6th house - Sun is under the mild wide influence of Ra - 12th lord is in the 8th house, but not afflicting it - Venus is strong and well placed in the 5th house - Jupiter is strong and well placed in own house The primary significator of marriage is weak and unafflicted. The secondary significators are also weak and unafflicted although Venus and Jupiter and strong, well placed and unafflicted. The native was running Ve/Ju during July 2008 - both strong benefics. Based on all these points, I am not sure how to see widowhood in this chart. I would be grateful if you could provide your advice. In transit, I can see the natal moon under severe affliction from transit Ketu. However, it is not clear how this transit could supercede the dasa/bhukti and cause such a horrific event. thanks, Rama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Thank you, dear Professor, for elucidating so clearly. Thank you for also showing that there was an indication of shortened span of marital life because of the presence of the 12th lord in the 8th house. I had again assumed that since there was no affliction, there was no significance of this placement. Is there any generic rule for cases like this where the FM does not have any influence on the MEP (through the 5 degree orb) but still has an impact? Given the weakness of the determinants and the location of the Moon in the 8th house, does this also mean that chances for remarriage are very slim? Does this also mean that the strong Jupiter and Venus in this chart have no influence on marital matters? thank you for your continued guidance, thanks, Rama 2008/10/30 SIHA <vkchoudhry > Hello dear Rama, > > Both primary and secondary determinants are weak in the chart. The > placement of the twelfth lord in the eighth house also indicates loss of > span of marital life. At the time of the death there was strong exact > stationary affliction of Ketu from the 12th house on the lord of the 12th > house placed in the eighth house. Transit can supercede the sub period > results when it is strongly unfavorable as in this case. If you read the > book, How to Identify Significant Events, it is clearly mentioned there. > That is why the continuous performance of propitiatory remedies is suggested > for the functional malefics. > > Best wishes. > > > > > - > Rama > <%40> > Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:19 PM > Question on widowhood? > > Dear Professor, > > I have a question on early termination of marriage. In the attached > chart I am not sure how to read the event. The chart is of a person, who > unfortunately lost her husband in middle July, 2008. She was in the middle > of her pregnancy at that time. > > Feb 7,1984 > Time: 6:32PM Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 > Longitude: 86E56 Latitude: 21N30 > > In this chart, > > - Saturn, 7th house lord is exalted in the 3rd house, but debilitated in > the Navamsa > - It is under the benefic influence of the 9th house lord > - The ascendant and the 2nd house lord are in the 6th house > - Sun is under the mild wide influence of Ra > - 12th lord is in the 8th house, but not afflicting it > - Venus is strong and well placed in the 5th house > - Jupiter is strong and well placed in own house > > The primary significator of marriage is weak and unafflicted. The > secondary significators are also weak and unafflicted although Venus and > Jupiter and strong, well placed and unafflicted. The native was running > Ve/Ju during July 2008 - both strong benefics. > > Based on all these points, I am not sure how to see widowhood in > this chart. I would be grateful if you could provide your advice. > > In transit, I can see the natal moon under severe affliction from > transit Ketu. However, it is not clear how this transit could supercede the > dasa/bhukti and cause such a horrific event. > > thanks, > Rama > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Hello dear Rama, Instead of raising questions, first you complete reading and comprehension of principles. Best wishes. - Rama Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:13 PM Re: Question on widowhood? Thank you, dear Professor, for elucidating so clearly. Thank you for also showing that there was an indication of shortened span of marital life because of the presence of the 12th lord in the 8th house. I had again assumed that since there was no affliction, there was no significance of this placement. Is there any generic rule for cases like this where the FM does not have any influence on the MEP (through the 5 degree orb) but still has an impact? Given the weakness of the determinants and the location of the Moon in the 8th house, does this also mean that chances for remarriage are very slim? Does this also mean that the strong Jupiter and Venus in this chart have no influence on marital matters? thank you for your continued guidance, thanks, Rama 2008/10/30 SIHA <vkchoudhry > Hello dear Rama, > > Both primary and secondary determinants are weak in the chart. The > placement of the twelfth lord in the eighth house also indicates loss of > span of marital life. At the time of the death there was strong exact > stationary affliction of Ketu from the 12th house on the lord of the 12th > house placed in the eighth house. Transit can supercede the sub period > results when it is strongly unfavorable as in this case. If you read the > book, How to Identify Significant Events, it is clearly mentioned there. > That is why the continuous performance of propitiatory remedies is suggested > for the functional malefics. > > Best wishes. > > > > > - > Rama > <%40> > Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:19 PM > Question on widowhood? > > Dear Professor, > > I have a question on early termination of marriage. In the attached > chart I am not sure how to read the event. The chart is of a person, who > unfortunately lost her husband in middle July, 2008. She was in the middle > of her pregnancy at that time. > > Feb 7,1984 > Time: 6:32PM Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 > Longitude: 86E56 Latitude: 21N30 > > In this chart, > > - Saturn, 7th house lord is exalted in the 3rd house, but debilitated in > the Navamsa > - It is under the benefic influence of the 9th house lord > - The ascendant and the 2nd house lord are in the 6th house > - Sun is under the mild wide influence of Ra > - 12th lord is in the 8th house, but not afflicting it > - Venus is strong and well placed in the 5th house > - Jupiter is strong and well placed in own house > > The primary significator of marriage is weak and unafflicted. The > secondary significators are also weak and unafflicted although Venus and > Jupiter and strong, well placed and unafflicted. The native was running > Ve/Ju during July 2008 - both strong benefics. > > Based on all these points, I am not sure how to see widowhood in > this chart. I would be grateful if you could provide your advice. > > In transit, I can see the natal moon under severe affliction from > transit Ketu. However, it is not clear how this transit could supercede the > dasa/bhukti and cause such a horrific event. > > thanks, > Rama > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Thank you, dear Professor. In this case, the sister of the provided chart wished to know if there was a chance of remarriage and I did not want to provide an incorrect answer to her. thanks, Rama 2008/10/30 SIHA <vkchoudhry > > Hello dear Rama, > > Instead of raising questions, first you complete reading and comprehension > of principles. > > > Best wishes. > > > > - > Rama > <%40> > Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:13 PM > Re: Question on widowhood? > > Thank you, dear Professor, for elucidating so clearly. Thank you for also > showing that there was an indication of shortened span of marital life > because of the presence of the 12th lord in the 8th house. I had again > assumed that since there was no affliction, there was no significance of > this placement. Is there any generic rule for cases like this where the FM > does not have any influence on the MEP (through the 5 degree orb) but still > has an impact? > > Given the weakness of the determinants and the location of the Moon in the > 8th house, does this also mean that chances for remarriage are very slim? > > Does this also mean that the strong Jupiter and Venus in this chart have no > influence on marital matters? > > thank you for your continued guidance, > > thanks, > Rama > > 2008/10/30 SIHA <vkchoudhry <vkchoudhry%40gmail.com>> > > > Hello dear Rama, > > > > Both primary and secondary determinants are weak in the chart. The > > placement of the twelfth lord in the eighth house also indicates loss of > > span of marital life. At the time of the death there was strong exact > > stationary affliction of Ketu from the 12th house on the lord of the 12th > > house placed in the eighth house. Transit can supercede the sub period > > results when it is strongly unfavorable as in this case. If you read the > > book, How to Identify Significant Events, it is clearly mentioned there. > > That is why the continuous performance of propitiatory remedies is > suggested > > for the functional malefics. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > - > > Rama > > <%40> <% > 40> > > Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:19 PM > > Question on widowhood? > > > > Dear Professor, > > > > I have a question on early termination of marriage. In the attached > > chart I am not sure how to read the event. The chart is of a person, who > > unfortunately lost her husband in middle July, 2008. She was in the > middle > > of her pregnancy at that time. > > > > Feb 7,1984 > > Time: 6:32PM Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 > > Longitude: 86E56 Latitude: 21N30 > > > > In this chart, > > > > - Saturn, 7th house lord is exalted in the 3rd house, but debilitated in > > the Navamsa > > - It is under the benefic influence of the 9th house lord > > - The ascendant and the 2nd house lord are in the 6th house > > - Sun is under the mild wide influence of Ra > > - 12th lord is in the 8th house, but not afflicting it > > - Venus is strong and well placed in the 5th house > > - Jupiter is strong and well placed in own house > > > > The primary significator of marriage is weak and unafflicted. The > > secondary significators are also weak and unafflicted although Venus and > > Jupiter and strong, well placed and unafflicted. The native was running > > Ve/Ju during July 2008 - both strong benefics. > > > > Based on all these points, I am not sure how to see widowhood in > > this chart. I would be grateful if you could provide your advice. > > > > In transit, I can see the natal moon under severe affliction from > > transit Ketu. However, it is not clear how this transit could supercede > the > > dasa/bhukti and cause such a horrific event. > > > > thanks, > > Rama > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Hello Sachin, Yes. Best wishes. - sachin verma Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:12 PM Re: Question on widowhood? Respected Professor , As we dont know the exact date of termination , but if we look at transits on 17th July , we observe that 1. Moon(MMP) is in exact conjunction with Jupiter . 2. Saturn(7L) is turning more weak due to its Transit-Dispositer Sun is in deep infancy while travelling through 12H.Resulting into Saturn (primary determinator) and Sun (Asc Lord) weaker in transit also . Do these 2 points add to the query raised ,If the date is same as above . Best Regards sachin SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote: Hello dear Rama, Both primary and secondary determinants are weak in the chart. The placement of the twelfth lord in the eighth house also indicates loss of span of marital life. At the time of the death there was strong exact stationary affliction of Ketu from the 12th house on the lord of the 12th house placed in the eighth house. Transit can supercede the sub period results when it is strongly unfavorable as in this case. If you read the book, How to Identify Significant Events, it is clearly mentioned there. That is why the continuous performance of propitiatory remedies is suggested for the functional malefics. Best wishes. - Rama Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:19 PM Question on widowhood? Dear Professor, I have a question on early termination of marriage. In the attached chart I am not sure how to read the event. The chart is of a person, who unfortunately lost her husband in middle July, 2008. She was in the middle of her pregnancy at that time. Feb 7,1984 Time: 6:32PM Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 Longitude: 86E56 Latitude: 21N30 In this chart, - Saturn, 7th house lord is exalted in the 3rd house, but debilitated in the Navamsa - It is under the benefic influence of the 9th house lord - The ascendant and the 2nd house lord are in the 6th house - Sun is under the mild wide influence of Ra - 12th lord is in the 8th house, but not afflicting it - Venus is strong and well placed in the 5th house - Jupiter is strong and well placed in own house The primary significator of marriage is weak and unafflicted. The secondary significators are also weak and unafflicted although Venus and Jupiter and strong, well placed and unafflicted. The native was running Ve/Ju during July 2008 - both strong benefics. Based on all these points, I am not sure how to see widowhood in this chart. I would be grateful if you could provide your advice. In transit, I can see the natal moon under severe affliction from transit Ketu. However, it is not clear how this transit could supercede the dasa/bhukti and cause such a horrific event. thanks, Rama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Hello Rama, With the help of strengthening and propitiatory remedies there can be a stable remarriage. Best wishes. - Rama Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:33 PM Re: Question on widowhood? Thank you, dear Professor. In this case, the sister of the provided chart wished to know if there was a chance of remarriage and I did not want to provide an incorrect answer to her. thanks, Rama 2008/10/30 SIHA <vkchoudhry > > Hello dear Rama, > > Instead of raising questions, first you complete reading and comprehension > of principles. > > > Best wishes. > > > > - > Rama > <%40> > Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:13 PM > Re: Question on widowhood? > > Thank you, dear Professor, for elucidating so clearly. Thank you for also > showing that there was an indication of shortened span of marital life > because of the presence of the 12th lord in the 8th house. I had again > assumed that since there was no affliction, there was no significance of > this placement. Is there any generic rule for cases like this where the FM > does not have any influence on the MEP (through the 5 degree orb) but still > has an impact? > > Given the weakness of the determinants and the location of the Moon in the > 8th house, does this also mean that chances for remarriage are very slim? > > Does this also mean that the strong Jupiter and Venus in this chart have no > influence on marital matters? > > thank you for your continued guidance, > > thanks, > Rama > > 2008/10/30 SIHA <vkchoudhry <vkchoudhry%40gmail.com>> > > > Hello dear Rama, > > > > Both primary and secondary determinants are weak in the chart. The > > placement of the twelfth lord in the eighth house also indicates loss of > > span of marital life. At the time of the death there was strong exact > > stationary affliction of Ketu from the 12th house on the lord of the 12th > > house placed in the eighth house. Transit can supercede the sub period > > results when it is strongly unfavorable as in this case. If you read the > > book, How to Identify Significant Events, it is clearly mentioned there. > > That is why the continuous performance of propitiatory remedies is > suggested > > for the functional malefics. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > - > > Rama > > <%40> <% > 40> > > Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:19 PM > > Question on widowhood? > > > > Dear Professor, > > > > I have a question on early termination of marriage. In the attached > > chart I am not sure how to read the event. The chart is of a person, who > > unfortunately lost her husband in middle July, 2008. She was in the > middle > > of her pregnancy at that time. > > > > Feb 7,1984 > > Time: 6:32PM Zone: 5:30 DST: 0 > > Longitude: 86E56 Latitude: 21N30 > > > > In this chart, > > > > - Saturn, 7th house lord is exalted in the 3rd house, but debilitated in > > the Navamsa > > - It is under the benefic influence of the 9th house lord > > - The ascendant and the 2nd house lord are in the 6th house > > - Sun is under the mild wide influence of Ra > > - 12th lord is in the 8th house, but not afflicting it > > - Venus is strong and well placed in the 5th house > > - Jupiter is strong and well placed in own house > > > > The primary significator of marriage is weak and unafflicted. The > > secondary significators are also weak and unafflicted although Venus and > > Jupiter and strong, well placed and unafflicted. The native was running > > Ve/Ju during July 2008 - both strong benefics. > > > > Based on all these points, I am not sure how to see widowhood in > > this chart. I would be grateful if you could provide your advice. > > > > In transit, I can see the natal moon under severe affliction from > > transit Ketu. However, it is not clear how this transit could supercede > the > > dasa/bhukti and cause such a horrific event. > > > > thanks, > > Rama > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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