Fwd: RE: Sarah Palin Ascendant

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In this chart, 10L (status) is weak and in 8th. She could not have

become a Governer of a state with this chart. Sun (2L) and sun-like

planet Mercury are both weak.

 

I have doubts that this is her chart. I still have full confidence

in 9:43pm chart although I have not been able to get hold of her

birth certificate yet.

 

8L being weak does not always mean short longevity. It could also

mean no inheritance.

 

DB

 

 

 

 

SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david wrote:

 

Dear Thor...

 

I think the 4:40 p.m. time for Sara Palin gives the Cancer, not Leo,

rising

at 26:13 degrees; using Feb. 11, 1964, Sandpoint, ID; 116W33:08;

48N16:36;

TZ: 8; DST 0.

 

This chart can show the prominent rise and conflict over the past two

years

and five months.

 

David Hawthorne

 

SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf

Of

cosmologer

Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:31 AM

SAMVA

Re: Sarah Palin Ascendant

 

Hi Ron,

 

Very good point about 8th lord Mars in the Virgo ascendant being

indicative of curtailed longevity. Indeed, the combination of 12th

lord in end of 5th house, with 8th lord and 6th lord at beginning of

6th house would be quite difficult, to say the least.

 

Shortly after her candidacy was announced, I tentatively introduced a

6° Sagittarius ascendant (4:19 am) for her. Then information about

her " official " but still yet unconfirmed birth times started coming

out. Have you examined the 4:40 pm time, with 26° Leo rising. The

Virgo ascendant was the other such time.

 

Look forward to hear more about your investigations into the Libra

ascendant.

 

Best wishes,

 

Thor

 

SAMVA , RonDay <ronkar@> wrote:

>

> There have been several birth times given for Sarah Palin. None of

them

> give charts which are totally compelling.

>

> A Virgo ascendant was given initially but this does not make sense.

> 8L Mars is extremely weak and afflicted as well as being combust.

There

> would be a longevity issue and she may not have made it to this age.

>

> When there are many birth times to choose from, I think it is best

to

> start from scratch and find an ascendant from the available

biographical

> data.

> I think the key to finding the correct ascendant here is balancing

the

> weakness of combust Mars.

>

> Moving the ascendant to Libra achieves this.

> Combust Mars is now conjunct yogakaraka Saturn boosting it

immensely.

> Libra ascendant fits with her sporting and competitive abilities

and 10L

> Moon is well placed giving her public prominence.

> I am still working on the degree.

>

>

> Ron

>

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello DB,

 

Remember the Moon is with Mercury and the Sun is weak, but it's near the mep

of the first house and seventh. And the state she governs has a low

constituency.

 

Aloha,

 

Sally

 

And if you look at D2, the Sun is in Leo, with the 5th and 7th lords..

 

The significator for statesman, Saturn is close to the 10 Lord Mars. albeit

outside the one degree range by one. This makes her a fighter too, not

afraid of controversy or scandal. Also Moon and Mercury together is what

George Bush has, 3d and first lords strong conjunct. She's been called the

female Bush.

 

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:59 PM, devibhakt <devibhakt wrote:

 

> In this chart, 1

 

 

And

 

> 0L (status) is weak and in 8th. She could not have

> become a Governer of a state with this chart. Sun (2L) and sun-like

> planet Mercury are both weak.

>

> I have doubts that this is her chart. I still have full confidence

> in 9:43pm chart although I have not been able to get hold of her

> birth certificate yet.

>

> 8L being weak does not always mean short longevity. It could also

> mean no inheritance.

>

> DB

>

>

>

>

> SAMVA , " David Hawthorne " <david wrote:

>

> Dear Thor...

>

> I think the 4:40 p.m. time for Sara Palin gives the Cancer, not Leo,

> rising

> at 26:13 degrees; using Feb. 11, 1964, Sandpoint, ID; 116W33:08;

> 48N16:36;

> TZ: 8; DST 0.

>

> This chart can show the prominent rise and conflict over the past two

> years

> and five months.

>

> David Hawthorne

>

> SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf

> Of

> cosmologer

> Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:31 AM

> SAMVA

> Re: Sarah Palin Ascendant

>

> Hi Ron,

>

> Very good point about 8th lord Mars in the Virgo ascendant being

> indicative of curtailed longevity. Indeed, the combination of 12th

> lord in end of 5th house, with 8th lord and 6th lord at beginning of

> 6th house would be quite difficult, to say the least.

>

> Shortly after her candidacy was announced, I tentatively introduced a

> 6° Sagittarius ascendant (4:19 am) for her. Then information about

> her " official " but still yet unconfirmed birth times started coming

> out. Have you examined the 4:40 pm time, with 26° Leo rising. The

> Virgo ascendant was the other such time.

>

> Look forward to hear more about your investigations into the Libra

> ascendant.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Thor

>

> SAMVA , RonDay <ronkar@> wrote:

> >

> > There have been several birth times given for Sarah Palin. None of

> them

> > give charts which are totally compelling.

> >

> > A Virgo ascendant was given initially but this does not make sense.

> > 8L Mars is extremely weak and afflicted as well as being combust.

> There

> > would be a longevity issue and she may not have made it to this age.

> >

> > When there are many birth times to choose from, I think it is best

> to

> > start from scratch and find an ascendant from the available

> biographical

> > data.

> > I think the key to finding the correct ascendant here is balancing

> the

> > weakness of combust Mars.

> >

> > Moving the ascendant to Libra achieves this.

> > Combust Mars is now conjunct yogakaraka Saturn boosting it

> immensely.

> > Libra ascendant fits with her sporting and competitive abilities

> and 10L

> > Moon is well placed giving her public prominence.

> > I am still working on the degree.

> >

> >

> > Ron

> >

>

>

>

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