Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Hello Devibhakt, There is some information about Sarah Palin on Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin. Best wishes, Thor SAMVA , " devibhakt " <devibhakt wrote: > > as his VP. Anybody here from Alaska or Idaho who can get her birth > details? > > DB > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin --- On Fri, 8/29/08, devibhakt <devibhakt wrote:devibhakt <devibhakt McCain picks Sarah PalinSAMVA Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 10:44 AM as his VP. Anybody here from Alaska or Idaho who can get her birth details? DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 No time is given but the date/place is Feb. 11, 1964 in Sandpoint, Idaho. Without knowing FM/FB, houses, and MEPs, we see no afflictions to planets from the nodes. We also see a possible Mercury/Moon conjunction and a Sun/Mars/Saturn (all weak because of old age/infancy) conjunction. Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn are in good signs for them. Warm regards,Shayn devibhakt <devibhaktSAMVA Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 8:44:13 AM McCain picks Sarah Palin as his VP. Anybody here from Alaska or Idaho who can get her birth details?DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Transiting Ketu currently aspects natal Jupiter in her chart which could cause some political challenges... Warm regards,Shayn Shayn Smith <mactunesmithSAMVA Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 10:15:43 AMRe: McCain picks Sarah Palin No time is given but the date/place is Feb. 11, 1964 in Sandpoint, Idaho. Without knowing FM/FB, houses, and MEPs, we see no afflictions to planets from the nodes. We also see a possible Mercury/Moon conjunction and a Sun/Mars/Saturn (all weak because of old age/infancy) conjunction. Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn are in good signs for them. Warm regards,Shayn devibhakt <devibhakt >SAMVA Friday, August 29, 2008 8:44:13 AM McCain picks Sarah Palin as his VP. Anybody here from Alaska or Idaho who can get her birth details?DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Dear Shayn and list members, I find 6° 22' Sagittarius as a plausible ascendant for her. She is active and outdoors oriented. She took after her father in sports and activities. She is an environmentalist, an ethical person and outspoken. Jupiter-KETU period is operating. - 8th lord MOON on 2nd house MEP. She has one child with Downs syndrome. -10th lord MERCURY on 2nd house MEP. She is governor of a state. -11th lord VENUS at 7° 23' Pisces is exalted on 4th house MEP. -1st lord JUPITER at 23° 15' Pisces is well placed and strong in 4th house of mental peace. -3rd lord SATURN at 1° 46' Aquarius and in MEP of 3rd house. She likes to speak out on issues, is well spoken and likes to rule. -9th lord SUN is at 28° 26' Capricorn and 2nd house in conjunction with 5th lord MARS at 29° 41' Capricorn. This gives luck with children, but there may also be setbacks. -KETU at 17° 20 Sagittarius and 1st house, may give some strange "vibe" to the self. -RAHU at 17° 20' Gemini and 7th house may give a worldly spouse or some disturbance for spouse. Today the following transits may be noted - transit 1st lord JUPITER at 18°41' Sagittarius is conjunct natal KETU. Her "self" has been thrust suddenly into the glare of the global media and into the scrutiny of the global political punditry. Something that is bound to be difficult. - transit KETU at 23° 34' Cancer and 8th house aspects natal JUPITER in the 4th house, while natal KETU aspects transit 9th lord SUN in the 9th house. This would be a challenging time for her husband. Natal Ketu also aspects her 3rd lord SATURN in the 9th house. This would be a time when she is suddenly thrust into the spotlight and the world is waiting to hear what she has to say. - debilitated transit 11th lord VENUS and exalted transit 10th lord MERCURY are conjunct in Virgo and on her 10th house MEP in aspect to her natal exalted VENUS. Transit 5th lord MARS is also in the 10th house, in aspect to her natal KETU. - Transit 8th lord MOON had just passed over her transit KETU. -transit RAHU is in her 2nd house. Her rise in life came during Jupiter-MERCURY period. Her Jupiter KETU period began earlier in August 2008. So, the unexpected has now taken front seat in her life. Her Jupiter-VENUS period begins in July 2009, when her life would be expected take a more pleasant turn for her. Given the many natal strengths, it is hard to see her not advancing very much in her life. Best wishes, Thor Shayn Smith <mactunesmithSAMVA Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 4:18:28 PMRe: McCain picks Sarah Palin Transiting Ketu currently aspects natal Jupiter in her chart which could cause some political challenges... Warm regards,Shayn Shayn Smith <mactunesmithSAMVA Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 10:15:43 AMRe: McCain picks Sarah Palin No time is given but the date/place is Feb. 11, 1964 in Sandpoint, Idaho. Without knowing FM/FB, houses, and MEPs, we see no afflictions to planets from the nodes. We also see a possible Mercury/Moon conjunction and a Sun/Mars/Saturn (all weak because of old age/infancy) conjunction. Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn are in good signs for them. Warm regards,Shayn devibhakt <devibhakt >SAMVA Friday, August 29, 2008 8:44:13 AM McCain picks Sarah Palin as his VP. Anybody here from Alaska or Idaho who can get her birth details?DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Hello Thor, Thanks for taking the time to look at her life and a potential rising sign for her. I guess it is hard for me to see in this chart the many natal strengths to which you refer. Venus and Jupiter are debilitated in navamsha, Saturn is in extreme infancy and combust. Sun and Mars are in old age with Mars combust. And Mercury is debilitated in navamsha conjunct MMP, Moon. Could you please clarify? Thanks! Warm regards,Shayn Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 2:57:57 PMRe: McCain picks Sarah Palin Dear Shayn and list members, I find 6° 22' Sagittarius as a plausible ascendant for her. She is active and outdoors oriented. She took after her father in sports and activities. She is an environmentalist, an ethical person and outspoken. Jupiter-KETU period is operating. - 8th lord MOON on 2nd house MEP. She has one child with Downs syndrome. -10th lord MERCURY on 2nd house MEP. She is governor of a state. -11th lord VENUS at 7° 23' Pisces is exalted on 4th house MEP. -1st lord JUPITER at 23° 15' Pisces is well placed and strong in 4th house of mental peace. -3rd lord SATURN at 1° 46' Aquarius and in MEP of 3rd house. She likes to speak out on issues, is well spoken and likes to rule. -9th lord SUN is at 28° 26' Capricorn and 2nd house in conjunction with 5th lord MARS at 29° 41' Capricorn. This gives luck with children, but there may also be setbacks. -KETU at 17° 20 Sagittarius and 1st house, may give some strange "vibe" to the self. -RAHU at 17° 20' Gemini and 7th house may give a worldly spouse or some disturbance for spouse. Today the following transits may be noted - transit 1st lord JUPITER at 18°41' Sagittarius is conjunct natal KETU. Her "self" has been thrust suddenly into the glare of the global media and into the scrutiny of the global political punditry. Something that is bound to be difficult. - transit KETU at 23° 34' Cancer and 8th house aspects natal JUPITER in the 4th house, while natal KETU aspects transit 9th lord SUN in the 9th house. This would be a challenging time for her husband. Natal Ketu also aspects her 3rd lord SATURN in the 9th house. This would be a time when she is suddenly thrust into the spotlight and the world is waiting to hear what she has to say. - debilitated transit 11th lord VENUS and exalted transit 10th lord MERCURY are conjunct in Virgo and on her 10th house MEP in aspect to her natal exalted VENUS. Transit 5th lord MARS is also in the 10th house, in aspect to her natal KETU. - Transit 8th lord MOON had just passed over her transit KETU. -transit RAHU is in her 2nd house. Her rise in life came during Jupiter-MERCURY period. Her Jupiter KETU period began earlier in August 2008. So, the unexpected has now taken front seat in her life. Her Jupiter-VENUS period begins in July 2009, when her life would be expected take a more pleasant turn for her. Given the many natal strengths, it is hard to see her not advancing very much in her life. Best wishes, Thor Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >SAMVA Friday, August 29, 2008 4:18:28 PMRe: McCain picks Sarah Palin Transiting Ketu currently aspects natal Jupiter in her chart which could cause some political challenges.. . Warm regards,Shayn Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >SAMVA Friday, August 29, 2008 10:15:43 AMRe: McCain picks Sarah Palin No time is given but the date/place is Feb. 11, 1964 in Sandpoint, Idaho. Without knowing FM/FB, houses, and MEPs, we see no afflictions to planets from the nodes. We also see a possible Mercury/Moon conjunction and a Sun/Mars/Saturn (all weak because of old age/infancy) conjunction. Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn are in good signs for them. Warm regards,Shayn devibhakt <devibhakt >SAMVA Friday, August 29, 2008 8:44:13 AM McCain picks Sarah Palin as his VP. Anybody here from Alaska or Idaho who can get her birth details?DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Her birth time is being mentioned as 9:43pm. Some more validations in process as we speak. Stay tuned. This makes her Virgo lagna. Mars and Saturn conjunct in 6th house. DB SAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: > > Hello Thor, > Thanks for taking the time to look at her life and a potential rising sign for her. I guess it is hard for me to see in this chart the many natal strengths to which you refer. Venus and Jupiter are debilitated in navamsha, Saturn is in extreme infancy and combust. Sun and Mars are in old age with Mars combust. And Mercury is debilitated in navamsha conjunct MMP, Moon. Could you please clarify? > > Thanks! > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer > SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 2:57:57 PM > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > Dear Shayn and list members, > > I find 6° 22' Sagittarius as a plausible ascendant for her. She is active and outdoors oriented. She took after her father in sports and activities. She is an environmentalist, an ethical person and outspoken. > > Jupiter-KETU period is operating. > - 8th lord MOON on 2nd house MEP. She has one child with Downs syndrome. > -10th lord MERCURY on 2nd house MEP. She is governor of a state. > -11th lord VENUS at 7° 23' Pisces is exalted on 4th house MEP. > -1st lord JUPITER at 23° 15' Pisces is well placed and strong in 4th house of mental peace. > -3rd lord SATURN at 1° 46' Aquarius and in MEP of 3rd house. She likes to speak out on issues, is well spoken and likes to rule. > -9th lord SUN is at 28° 26' Capricorn and 2nd house in conjunction with 5th lord MARS at 29° 41' Capricorn. This gives luck with children, but there may also be setbacks. > -KETU at 17° 20 Sagittarius and 1st house, may give some strange " vibe " to the self. > -RAHU at 17° 20' Gemini and 7th house may give a worldly spouse or some disturbance for spouse. > > Today the following transits may be noted > - transit 1st lord JUPITER at 18°41' Sagittarius is conjunct natal KETU. Her " self " has been thrust suddenly into the glare of the global media and into the scrutiny of the global political punditry. Something that is bound to be difficult. > - transit KETU at 23° 34' Cancer and 8th house aspects natal JUPITER in the 4th house, while natal KETU aspects transit 9th lord SUN in the 9th house. This would be a challenging time for her husband. Natal Ketu also aspects her 3rd lord SATURN in the 9th house. This would be a time when she is suddenly thrust into the spotlight and the world is waiting to hear what she has to say. > - debilitated transit 11th lord VENUS and exalted transit 10th lord MERCURY are conjunct in Virgo and on her 10th house MEP in aspect to her natal exalted VENUS. Transit 5th lord MARS is also in the 10th house, in aspect to her natal KETU. > - Transit 8th lord MOON had just passed over her transit KETU. > -transit RAHU is in her 2nd house. > > Her rise in life came during Jupiter-MERCURY period. Her Jupiter KETU period began earlier in August 2008. So, the unexpected has now taken front seat in her life. Her Jupiter-VENUS period begins in July 2009, when her life would be expected take a more pleasant turn for her. > > Given the many natal strengths, it is hard to see her not advancing very much in her life. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > > > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ > > SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 4:18:28 PM > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > Transiting Ketu currently aspects natal Jupiter in her chart which could cause some political challenges.. . > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ > > SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 10:15:43 AM > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > No time is given but the date/place is Feb. 11, 1964 in Sandpoint, Idaho. Without knowing FM/FB, houses, and MEPs, we see no afflictions to planets from the nodes. We also see a possible Mercury/Moon conjunction and a Sun/Mars/Saturn (all weak because of old age/infancy) conjunction. Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn are in good signs for them. > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > > > > devibhakt <devibhakt > > SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 8:44:13 AM > McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > as his VP. Anybody here from Alaska or Idaho who can get her birth > details? > > DB > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Share Posted August 29, 2008 Her birth time is being mentioned as 9:43pm. Stay tuned as some more validations are being done right now. This makes her Virgo lagna. Saturn and Mars conjunct in 6th house. Very interesting choice, nonetheless! DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Her birth time is being mentioned as 9:43pm. Mars and Saturn are conjunct in 6th house. Jupiter in own house in 7th. Venus exalted in rashi but debilitated in navamsa. Mercury exalted in Rashi but debilitated in navamsa. Currently running Jupiter/Moon. Both planets strong in the chart. Moon is exalted in navamsa. DB , " devibhakt " <devibhakt wrote: > > On her birthday (11th Feb 1964, Sandpoint ID), all planets were between > Rahu and Ketu. > > Many successful politicians are known to have this yoga. > > DB > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Confirmed. The birth time for Sarah Palin is 9:43pm. She was born in Sandpoint in Idaho on Feb 11th, 1964. DB , " devibhakt " <devibhakt wrote: > > Her birth time is being mentioned as 9:43pm. Stay tuned as some more > validations are being done right now. > > This makes her Virgo lagna. Saturn and Mars conjunct in 6th house. > > Very interesting choice, nonetheless! > > DB > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Confirmed. Her birth time is 9:43pm. Sandpoint in Idaho on Feb 11th, 1964. DB SAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: > > Hello Thor, > Thanks for taking the time to look at her life and a potential rising sign for her. I guess it is hard for me to see in this chart the many natal strengths to which you refer. Venus and Jupiter are debilitated in navamsha, Saturn is in extreme infancy and combust. Sun and Mars are in old age with Mars combust. And Mercury is debilitated in navamsha conjunct MMP, Moon. Could you please clarify? > > Thanks! > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer > SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 2:57:57 PM > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > Dear Shayn and list members, > > I find 6° 22' Sagittarius as a plausible ascendant for her. She is active and outdoors oriented. She took after her father in sports and activities. She is an environmentalist, an ethical person and outspoken. > > Jupiter-KETU period is operating. > - 8th lord MOON on 2nd house MEP. She has one child with Downs syndrome. > -10th lord MERCURY on 2nd house MEP. She is governor of a state. > -11th lord VENUS at 7° 23' Pisces is exalted on 4th house MEP. > -1st lord JUPITER at 23° 15' Pisces is well placed and strong in 4th house of mental peace. > -3rd lord SATURN at 1° 46' Aquarius and in MEP of 3rd house. She likes to speak out on issues, is well spoken and likes to rule. > -9th lord SUN is at 28° 26' Capricorn and 2nd house in conjunction with 5th lord MARS at 29° 41' Capricorn. This gives luck with children, but there may also be setbacks. > -KETU at 17° 20 Sagittarius and 1st house, may give some strange " vibe " to the self. > -RAHU at 17° 20' Gemini and 7th house may give a worldly spouse or some disturbance for spouse. > > Today the following transits may be noted > - transit 1st lord JUPITER at 18°41' Sagittarius is conjunct natal KETU. Her " self " has been thrust suddenly into the glare of the global media and into the scrutiny of the global political punditry. Something that is bound to be difficult. > - transit KETU at 23° 34' Cancer and 8th house aspects natal JUPITER in the 4th house, while natal KETU aspects transit 9th lord SUN in the 9th house. This would be a challenging time for her husband. Natal Ketu also aspects her 3rd lord SATURN in the 9th house. This would be a time when she is suddenly thrust into the spotlight and the world is waiting to hear what she has to say. > - debilitated transit 11th lord VENUS and exalted transit 10th lord MERCURY are conjunct in Virgo and on her 10th house MEP in aspect to her natal exalted VENUS. Transit 5th lord MARS is also in the 10th house, in aspect to her natal KETU. > - Transit 8th lord MOON had just passed over her transit KETU. > -transit RAHU is in her 2nd house. > > Her rise in life came during Jupiter-MERCURY period. Her Jupiter KETU period began earlier in August 2008. So, the unexpected has now taken front seat in her life. Her Jupiter-VENUS period begins in July 2009, when her life would be expected take a more pleasant turn for her. > > Given the many natal strengths, it is hard to see her not advancing very much in her life. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > > > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ > > SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 4:18:28 PM > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > Transiting Ketu currently aspects natal Jupiter in her chart which could cause some political challenges.. . > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ > > SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 10:15:43 AM > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > No time is given but the date/place is Feb. 11, 1964 in Sandpoint, Idaho. Without knowing FM/FB, houses, and MEPs, we see no afflictions to planets from the nodes. We also see a possible Mercury/Moon conjunction and a Sun/Mars/Saturn (all weak because of old age/infancy) conjunction. Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn are in good signs for them. > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > > > > devibhakt <devibhakt > > SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 8:44:13 AM > McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > as his VP. Anybody here from Alaska or Idaho who can get her birth > details? > > DB > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 I found 9:43 p.m. for her. don't know if it's accurate… but it's plausible. David Hawthorne SAMVA [sAMVA ] On Behalf Of Shayn Smith Friday, August 29, 2008 11:18 AM SAMVA Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin Transiting Ketu currently aspects natal Jupiter in her chart which could cause some political challenges... Warm regards, Shayn ----- Original Message ---- Shayn Smith <mactunesmith SAMVA Friday, August 29, 2008 10:15:43 AM Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin No time is given but the date/place is Feb. 11, 1964 in Sandpoint, Idaho. Without knowing FM/FB, houses, and MEPs, we see no afflictions to planets from the nodes. We also see a possible Mercury/Moon conjunction and a Sun/Mars/Saturn (all weak because of old age/infancy) conjunction. Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn are in good signs for them. Warm regards, Shayn ----- Original Message ---- devibhakt <devibhakt > SAMVA Friday, August 29, 2008 8:44:13 AM McCain picks Sarah Palin as his VP. Anybody here from Alaska or Idaho who can get her birth details? DB No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1641 - Release 8/29/2008 7:07 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Confirmed. Her birth time is 9:43pm. DB , " devibhakt " <devibhakt wrote: > > Her birth time is being mentioned as 9:43pm. Mars and Saturn are > conjunct in 6th house. Jupiter in own house in 7th. Venus exalted > in rashi but debilitated in navamsa. Mercury exalted in Rashi but > debilitated in navamsa. > > Currently running Jupiter/Moon. Both planets strong in the chart. > Moon is exalted in navamsa. > > DB > > , " devibhakt " <devibhakt@> > wrote: > > > > On her birthday (11th Feb 1964, Sandpoint ID), all planets were > between > > Rahu and Ketu. > > > > Many successful politicians are known to have this yoga. > > > > DB > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Hello Devibhakt, Thanks, but what is the source for the birth time? The 21° 40' Virgo rising chart (attached) has the 4 FBs well placed and 4th lord JUPITER on the 7th house MEP, aspecting also 11th, 1st and 3rd houses. Several planets are debilitated as Shayn has pointed out. The nodes afflict the even numbered houses, with 5 of them ruled by MT lords. Moreover, the 12th lord SUN in old age in the 5th house is conjunct the 8th lord MARS and 6th lord SATURN in infancy in the 6th house. That is a major affliction. The conjunction of transit Sun and transit Saturn next week at 17° Leo in the 12th house will be under the affliction of the natal KETU in the 4th house, which will also be afflicting transit 4th lord Jupiter. There could be a setback in her life at that time. This chart also suggests significant problems from early 2009 when the Ju/Ma period begins. This chart is not good at all, if it is correct. Best wishes, Thor devibhakt <devibhaktSAMVA Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 10:45:45 PM Re: McCain picks Sarah PalinConfirmed. Her birth time is 9:43pm. Sandpoint in Idaho on Feb 11th, 1964.DBSAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote:>> Hello Thor,> Thanks for taking the time to look at her life and a potential rising sign for her. I guess it is hard for me to see in this chart the many natal strengths to which you refer. Venus and Jupiter are debilitated in navamsha, Saturn is in extreme infancy and combust. Sun and Mars are in old age with Mars combust. And Mercury is debilitated in navamsha conjunct MMP, Moon. Could you please clarify?> > Thanks!> > Warm regards,> Shayn> > > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer> SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 2:57:57 PM> Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin> > > Dear Shayn and list members,> > I find 6° 22' Sagittarius as a plausible ascendant for her. She is active and outdoors oriented. She took after her father in sports and activities. She is an environmentalist, an ethical person and outspoken.> > Jupiter-KETU period is operating.> - 8th lord MOON on 2nd house MEP. She has one child with Downs syndrome.> -10th lord MERCURY on 2nd house MEP. She is governor of a state.> -11th lord VENUS at 7° 23' Pisces is exalted on 4th house MEP. > -1st lord JUPITER at 23° 15' Pisces is well placed and strong in 4th house of mental peace.> -3rd lord SATURN at 1° 46' Aquarius and in MEP of 3rd house. She likes to speak out on issues, is well spoken and likes to rule.> -9th lord SUN is at 28° 26' Capricorn and 2nd house in conjunction with 5th lord MARS at 29° 41' Capricorn. This gives luck with children, but there may also be setbacks. > -KETU at 17° 20 Sagittarius and 1st house, may give some strange "vibe" to the self.> -RAHU at 17° 20' Gemini and 7th house may give a worldly spouse or some disturbance for spouse.> > Today the following transits may be noted> - transit 1st lord JUPITER at 18°41' Sagittarius is conjunct natal KETU. Her "self" has been thrust suddenly into the glare of the global media and into the scrutiny of the global political punditry. Something that is bound to be difficult.> - transit KETU at 23° 34' Cancer and 8th house aspects natal JUPITER in the 4th house, while natal KETU aspects transit 9th lord SUN in the 9th house. This would be a challenging time for her husband. Natal Ketu also aspects her 3rd lord SATURN in the 9th house. This would be a time when she is suddenly thrust into the spotlight and the world is waiting to hear what she has to say.> - debilitated transit 11th lord VENUS and exalted transit 10th lord MERCURY are conjunct in Virgo and on her 10th house MEP in aspect to her natal exalted VENUS. Transit 5th lord MARS is also in the 10th house, in aspect to her natal KETU.> - Transit 8th lord MOON had just passed over her transit KETU.> -transit RAHU is in her 2nd house.> > Her rise in life came during Jupiter-MERCURY period. Her Jupiter KETU period began earlier in August 2008. So, the unexpected has now taken front seat in her life. Her Jupiter-VENUS period begins in July 2009, when her life would be expected take a more pleasant turn for her. > > Given the many natal strengths, it is hard to see her not advancing very much in her life.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > > > > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >> SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 4:18:28 PM> Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin> > > Transiting Ketu currently aspects natal Jupiter in her chart which could cause some political challenges.. .> > Warm regards,> Shayn> > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >> SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 10:15:43 AM> Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin> > > No time is given but the date/place is Feb. 11, 1964 in Sandpoint, Idaho. Without knowing FM/FB, houses, and MEPs, we see no afflictions to planets from the nodes. We also see a possible Mercury/Moon conjunction and a Sun/Mars/Saturn (all weak because of old age/infancy) conjunction. Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn are in good signs for them.> > Warm regards,> Shayn> > > > > devibhakt <devibhakt >> SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 8:44:13 AM> Subject: McCain picks Sarah Palin> > > as his VP. Anybody here from Alaska or Idaho who can get her birth > details?> > DB>--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Dear Thor, Devibhakt, and List, I'd like to comment on just a few things in Palin's chart. Her strong Jupiter on the 7th house MEP supports the fact that she has high approval ratings in her role as Governor from the public. It's aspect to the 3rd house makes her competitive and she has participated in sports and majored in journalism (3rd house). Also Jupiter has a role in her strong ethical stands against key state officials and her strong ethical beliefs regarding abortion. There are similarities to McCain's 9:00am chart which explains why he may have been attracted to her as a running mate. Both have Virgo ascendants with Jupiter aspecting the 3rd house. Remember McCain's "Straight Talk Express"? But I think he sees the maverick in her that he also claims in going against the grain at the risk of inviting debate and dispute. Yes, both share 6th house activity where Saturn, L6, aspects the Sun's (government, officials) house in McCain's chart and the Sun directly (conjunct in Palin's chart). Warm regards,Shayn Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 7:11:56 PMRe: Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin Hello Devibhakt, Thanks, but what is the source for the birth time? The 21° 40' Virgo rising chart (attached) has the 4 FBs well placed and 4th lord JUPITER on the 7th house MEP, aspecting also 11th, 1st and 3rd houses. Several planets are debilitated as Shayn has pointed out. The nodes afflict the even numbered houses, with 5 of them ruled by MT lords. Moreover, the 12th lord SUN in old age in the 5th house is conjunct the 8th lord MARS and 6th lord SATURN in infancy in the 6th house. That is a major affliction. The conjunction of transit Sun and transit Saturn next week at 17° Leo in the 12th house will be under the affliction of the natal KETU in the 4th house, which will also be afflicting transit 4th lord Jupiter. There could be a setback in her life at that time. This chart also suggests significant problems from early 2009 when the Ju/Ma period begins. This chart is not good at all, if it is correct. Best wishes, Thor devibhakt <devibhakt >SAMVA Friday, August 29, 2008 10:45:45 PM Re: McCain picks Sarah PalinConfirmed. Her birth time is 9:43pm. Sandpoint in Idaho on Feb 11th, 1964.DBSAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ ...> wrote:>> Hello Thor,> Thanks for taking the time to look at her life and a potential rising sign for her. I guess it is hard for me to see in this chart the many natal strengths to which you refer. Venus and Jupiter are debilitated in navamsha, Saturn is in extreme infancy and combust. Sun and Mars are in old age with Mars combust. And Mercury is debilitated in navamsha conjunct MMP, Moon. Could you please clarify?> > Thanks!> > Warm regards,> Shayn> > > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@. ..>> SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 2:57:57 PM> Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin> > > Dear Shayn and list members,> > I find 6° 22' Sagittarius as a plausible ascendant for her. She is active and outdoors oriented. She took after her father in sports and activities. She is an environmentalist, an ethical person and outspoken.> > Jupiter-KETU period is operating.> - 8th lord MOON on 2nd house MEP. She has one child with Downs syndrome.> -10th lord MERCURY on 2nd house MEP. She is governor of a state.> -11th lord VENUS at 7° 23' Pisces is exalted on 4th house MEP. > -1st lord JUPITER at 23° 15' Pisces is well placed and strong in 4th house of mental peace.> -3rd lord SATURN at 1° 46' Aquarius and in MEP of 3rd house. She likes to speak out on issues, is well spoken and likes to rule.> -9th lord SUN is at 28° 26' Capricorn and 2nd house in conjunction with 5th lord MARS at 29° 41' Capricorn. This gives luck with children, but there may also be setbacks. > -KETU at 17° 20 Sagittarius and 1st house, may give some strange "vibe" to the self.> -RAHU at 17° 20' Gemini and 7th house may give a worldly spouse or some disturbance for spouse.> > Today the following transits may be noted> - transit 1st lord JUPITER at 18°41' Sagittarius is conjunct natal KETU. Her "self" has been thrust suddenly into the glare of the global media and into the scrutiny of the global political punditry. Something that is bound to be difficult.> - transit KETU at 23° 34' Cancer and 8th house aspects natal JUPITER in the 4th house, while natal KETU aspects transit 9th lord SUN in the 9th house. This would be a challenging time for her husband. Natal Ketu also aspects her 3rd lord SATURN in the 9th house. This would be a time when she is suddenly thrust into the spotlight and the world is waiting to hear what she has to say.> - debilitated transit 11th lord VENUS and exalted transit 10th lord MERCURY are conjunct in Virgo and on her 10th house MEP in aspect to her natal exalted VENUS. Transit 5th lord MARS is also in the 10th house, in aspect to her natal KETU.> - Transit 8th lord MOON had just passed over her transit KETU.> -transit RAHU is in her 2nd house.> > Her rise in life came during Jupiter-MERCURY period. Her Jupiter KETU period began earlier in August 2008. So, the unexpected has now taken front seat in her life. Her Jupiter-VENUS period begins in July 2009, when her life would be expected take a more pleasant turn for her. > > Given the many natal strengths, it is hard to see her not advancing very much in her life.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > > > > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >> SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 4:18:28 PM> Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin> > > Transiting Ketu currently aspects natal Jupiter in her chart which could cause some political challenges.. .> > Warm regards,> Shayn> > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >> SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 10:15:43 AM> Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin> > > No time is given but the date/place is Feb. 11, 1964 in Sandpoint, Idaho. Without knowing FM/FB, houses, and MEPs, we see no afflictions to planets from the nodes. We also see a possible Mercury/Moon conjunction and a Sun/Mars/Saturn (all weak because of old age/infancy) conjunction. Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn are in good signs for them.> > Warm regards,> Shayn> > > > > devibhakt <devibhakt >> SAMVA (AT) (DOT) com> Friday, August 29, 2008 8:44:13 AM> McCain picks Sarah Palin> > > as his VP. Anybody here from Alaska or Idaho who can get her birth > details?> > DB>------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Namaste DBji, Please quote the source of this birth time. --Radha -- In , " sgupta2269 " <sgupta2269 wrote: > > Confirmed. Her birth time is 9:43pm. > > DB > > , " devibhakt " <devibhakt@> > wrote: > > > > Her birth time is being mentioned as 9:43pm. Mars and Saturn are > > conjunct in 6th house. Jupiter in own house in 7th. Venus exalted > > in rashi but debilitated in navamsa. Mercury exalted in Rashi but > > debilitated in navamsa. > > > > Currently running Jupiter/Moon. Both planets strong in the chart. > > Moon is exalted in navamsa. > > > > DB > > > > , " devibhakt " <devibhakt@> > > wrote: > > > > > > On her birthday (11th Feb 1964, Sandpoint ID), all planets were > > between > > > Rahu and Ketu. > > > > > > Many successful politicians are known to have this yoga. > > > > > > DB > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Dear friends, I noted in my message of yesterday that the Virgo rising chart of Governor Palin suggested: "The conjunction of transit Sun and transit Saturn next week at 17° Leo in the 12th house will be under the affliction of the natal KETU in the 4th house, which will also be afflicting transit 4th lord Jupiter. There could be a setback in her life at that time." Well, some problem has now cropped up in her home state, as reported by CNN today: August 29, 2008 -- Updated 2042 GMT (0442 HKT) Alaska investigating governor's office (CNN) -- While Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin basked Friday in the prospect that she might become the nation's first female vice president, an investigation into her was under way at home. Gov. Sarah Palin's office is being investigated over the firing of her brother-in-law. Republican John McCain introduced Palin in Dayton, Ohio, as his running mate for the November election. She described herself as a bipartisan reformer and a fighter against corruption. In Alaska, meanwhile, questions over whether she or an aide broke ethical or personnel rules in firing the state's public safety commissioner have led to an investigation that is expected to last several months. The state Legislative Council voted in July to spend $100,000 on the investigation, and hired Steve Branchflower, a retired assistant district attorney, as special counsel to lead it. http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/29/palin.investigation/index.html I guess, with the conjunction of 12th lord SUN and 6th lord SATURN already within 4° in the 12th house, is sufficent for such a problem to be felt a bit sooner. The problem should then intensify into early September as this aspect becomes exact. Along with the further reading Shayn has offered of the notable placement of Jupiter in her chart, this information for her seems to corroborate the claim that she is born at 9.43 pm with 22° Virgo in the ascendant. Best wishes, Thor PS the source for the information about John McCain's birth time in my last message should be included, it is http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/McCainJohn.htm There is not yet any information about Sarah Palin on the Astrodatabank website. Shayn Smith <mactunesmithSAMVA Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:08:52 AMRe: Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin Dear Thor, Devibhakt, and List, I'd like to comment on just a few things in Palin's chart. Her strong Jupiter on the 7th house MEP supports the fact that she has high approval ratings in her role as Governor from the public. It's aspect to the 3rd house makes her competitive and she has participated in sports and majored in journalism (3rd house). Also Jupiter has a role in her strong ethical stands against key state officials and her strong ethical beliefs regarding abortion. There are similarities to McCain's 9:00am chart which explains why he may have been attracted to her as a running mate. Both have Virgo ascendants with Jupiter aspecting the 3rd house. Remember McCain's "Straight Talk Express"? But I think he sees the maverick in her that he also claims in going against the grain at the risk of inviting debate and dispute. Yes, both share 6th house activity where Saturn, L6, aspects the Sun's (government, officials) house in McCain's chart and the Sun directly (conjunct in Palin's chart). Warm regards,Shayn Cosmologer <cosmologerSAMVA Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 7:11:56 PMRe: Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin Hello Devibhakt, Thanks, but what is the source for the birth time? The 21° 40' Virgo rising chart (attached) has the 4 FBs well placed and 4th lord JUPITER on the 7th house MEP, aspecting also 11th, 1st and 3rd houses. Several planets are debilitated as Shayn has pointed out. The nodes afflict the even numbered houses, with 5 of them ruled by MT lords. Moreover, the 12th lord SUN in old age in the 5th house is conjunct the 8th lord MARS and 6th lord SATURN in infancy in the 6th house. That is a major affliction. The conjunction of transit Sun and transit Saturn next week at 17° Leo in the 12th house will be under the affliction of the natal KETU in the 4th house, which will also be afflicting transit 4th lord Jupiter. There could be a setback in her life at that time. This chart also suggests significant problems from early 2009 when the Ju/Ma period begins. This chart is not good at all, if it is correct. Best wishes, Thor devibhakt <devibhakt >SAMVA Friday, August 29, 2008 10:45:45 PM Re: McCain picks Sarah PalinConfirmed. Her birth time is 9:43pm. Sandpoint in Idaho on Feb 11th, 1964.DBSAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ ...> wrote:>> Hello Thor,> Thanks for taking the time to look at her life and a potential rising sign for her. I guess it is hard for me to see in this chart the many natal strengths to which you refer. Venus and Jupiter are debilitated in navamsha, Saturn is in extreme infancy and combust. Sun and Mars are in old age with Mars combust. And Mercury is debilitated in navamsha conjunct MMP, Moon. Could you please clarify?> > Thanks!> > Warm regards,> Shayn> > > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@. ..>> SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 2:57:57 PM> Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin> > > Dear Shayn and list members,> > I find 6° 22' Sagittarius as a plausible ascendant for her. She is active and outdoors oriented. She took after her father in sports and activities. She is an environmentalist, an ethical person and outspoken.> > Jupiter-KETU period is operating.> - 8th lord MOON on 2nd house MEP. She has one child with Downs syndrome.> -10th lord MERCURY on 2nd house MEP. She is governor of a state.> -11th lord VENUS at 7° 23' Pisces is exalted on 4th house MEP. > -1st lord JUPITER at 23° 15' Pisces is well placed and strong in 4th house of mental peace.> -3rd lord SATURN at 1° 46' Aquarius and in MEP of 3rd house. She likes to speak out on issues, is well spoken and likes to rule.> -9th lord SUN is at 28° 26' Capricorn and 2nd house in conjunction with 5th lord MARS at 29° 41' Capricorn. This gives luck with children, but there may also be setbacks. > -KETU at 17° 20 Sagittarius and 1st house, may give some strange "vibe" to the self.> -RAHU at 17° 20' Gemini and 7th house may give a worldly spouse or some disturbance for spouse.> > Today the following transits may be noted> - transit 1st lord JUPITER at 18°41' Sagittarius is conjunct natal KETU. Her "self" has been thrust suddenly into the glare of the global media and into the scrutiny of the global political punditry. Something that is bound to be difficult.> - transit KETU at 23° 34' Cancer and 8th house aspects natal JUPITER in the 4th house, while natal KETU aspects transit 9th lord SUN in the 9th house. This would be a challenging time for her husband. Natal Ketu also aspects her 3rd lord SATURN in the 9th house. This would be a time when she is suddenly thrust into the spotlight and the world is waiting to hear what she has to say.> - debilitated transit 11th lord VENUS and exalted transit 10th lord MERCURY are conjunct in Virgo and on her 10th house MEP in aspect to her natal exalted VENUS. Transit 5th lord MARS is also in the 10th house, in aspect to her natal KETU.> - Transit 8th lord MOON had just passed over her transit KETU.> -transit RAHU is in her 2nd house.> > Her rise in life came during Jupiter-MERCURY period. Her Jupiter KETU period began earlier in August 2008. So, the unexpected has now taken front seat in her life. Her Jupiter-VENUS period begins in July 2009, when her life would be expected take a more pleasant turn for her. > > Given the many natal strengths, it is hard to see her not advancing very much in her life.> > Best wishes,> > Thor> > > > > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >> SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 4:18:28 PM> Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin> > > Transiting Ketu currently aspects natal Jupiter in her chart which could cause some political challenges.. .> > Warm regards,> Shayn> > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ >> SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 10:15:43 AM> Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin> > > No time is given but the date/place is Feb. 11, 1964 in Sandpoint, Idaho. Without knowing FM/FB, houses, and MEPs, we see no afflictions to planets from the nodes. We also see a possible Mercury/Moon conjunction and a Sun/Mars/Saturn (all weak because of old age/infancy) conjunction. Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn are in good signs for them.> > Warm regards,> Shayn> > > > > devibhakt <devibhakt >> SAMVA (AT) (DOT) com> Friday, August 29, 2008 8:44:13 AM> McCain picks Sarah Palin> > > as his VP. Anybody here from Alaska or Idaho who can get her birth > details?> > DB>------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Namaste DB, Thanks for the information. The chart shows Palin has a conjunction of Mars/Saturn in the 6th house which persists in the navamsha. This may cause problems for her in the future. According to present news coverage, this conjunction has manifested in her life through a questionable dismissal of a state official in Alaska. She has a Kala Sarpa Yoga which is traditionally considered not good for the person. On the positive side, she is running the mahadasha of Jupiter in swakshetra in the rashi chart. So, she is benefitting from the good placement of Jupiter and has put her into the national political arena out of the relative anonymity as governor of Alaska. During the mahadasha of Jupiter, it appears that she will do well and help McCain during the election. However, I have not seen McCain's chart. So, I cannot determine if he will win the presidency or not. Regards, JR , " devibhakt " <devibhakt wrote: > > Her birth time is being mentioned as 9:43pm. Mars and Saturn are > conjunct in 6th house. Jupiter in own house in 7th. Venus exalted > in rashi but debilitated in navamsa. Mercury exalted in Rashi but > debilitated in navamsa. > > Currently running Jupiter/Moon. Both planets strong in the chart. > Moon is exalted in navamsa. > > DB > > , " devibhakt " <devibhakt@> > wrote: > > > > On her birthday (11th Feb 1964, Sandpoint ID), all planets were > between > > Rahu and Ketu. > > > > Many successful politicians are known to have this yoga. > > > > DB > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 The source is Bonner county records. I am trying to get a copy of her birth certificate. DB , " devibhakt " <devibhakt wrote: > > Confirmed. The birth time for Sarah Palin is 9:43pm. She was born in > Sandpoint in Idaho on Feb 11th, 1964. > > DB > > , " devibhakt " <devibhakt@> wrote: > > > > Her birth time is being mentioned as 9:43pm. Stay tuned as some more > > validations are being done right now. > > > > This makes her Virgo lagna. Saturn and Mars conjunct in 6th house. > > > > Very interesting choice, nonetheless! > > > > DB > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Bonner county office. I am trying to get a copy of her birth certificate. DB SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > Hello Devibhakt, > Thanks, but what is the source for the birth time? > The 21° 40' Virgo rising chart (attached) has the 4 FBs well placed and 4th lord JUPITER on the 7th house MEP, aspecting also 11th, 1st and 3rd houses. Several planets are debilitated as Shayn has pointed out. The nodes afflict the even numbered houses, with 5 of them ruled by MT lords. Moreover, the 12th lord SUN in old age in the 5th house is conjunct the 8th lord MARS and 6th lord SATURN in infancy in the 6th house. That is a major affliction. The conjunction of transit Sun and transit Saturn next week at 17° Leo in the 12th house will be under the affliction of the natal KETU in the 4th house, which will also be afflicting transit 4th lord Jupiter. There could be a setback in her life at that time. This chart also suggests significant problems from early 2009 when the Ju/Ma period begins. > This chart is not good at all, if it is correct. > Best wishes, > Thor > > > > > > devibhakt <devibhakt > SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 10:45:45 PM > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > Confirmed. Her birth time is 9:43pm. Sandpoint in Idaho on Feb > 11th, 1964. > > DB > > SAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@> wrote: > > > > Hello Thor, > > Thanks for taking the time to look at her life and a potential > rising sign for her. I guess it is hard for me to see in this chart > the many natal strengths to which you refer. Venus and Jupiter are > debilitated in navamsha, Saturn is in extreme infancy and combust. > Sun and Mars are in old age with Mars combust. And Mercury is > debilitated in navamsha conjunct MMP, Moon. Could you please clarify? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Warm regards, > > Shayn > > > > > > > > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@> > > SAMVA > > Friday, August 29, 2008 2:57:57 PM > > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > > > > Dear Shayn and list members, > > > > I find 6° 22' Sagittarius as a plausible ascendant for her. She is > active and outdoors oriented. She took after her father in sports and > activities. She is an environmentalist, an ethical person and > outspoken. > > > > Jupiter-KETU period is operating. > > - 8th lord MOON on 2nd house MEP. She has one child with Downs > syndrome. > > -10th lord MERCURY on 2nd house MEP. She is governor of a state. > > -11th lord VENUS at 7° 23' Pisces is exalted on 4th house MEP. > > -1st lord JUPITER at 23° 15' Pisces is well placed and strong in > 4th house of mental peace. > > -3rd lord SATURN at 1° 46' Aquarius and in MEP of 3rd house. She > likes to speak out on issues, is well spoken and likes to rule. > > -9th lord SUN is at 28° 26' Capricorn and 2nd house in conjunction > with 5th lord MARS at 29° 41' Capricorn. This gives luck with > children, but there may also be setbacks. > > -KETU at 17° 20 Sagittarius and 1st house, may give > some strange " vibe " to the self. > > -RAHU at 17° 20' Gemini and 7th house may give a worldly spouse or > some disturbance for spouse. > > > > Today the following transits may be noted > > - transit 1st lord JUPITER at 18°41' Sagittarius is conjunct natal > KETU. Her " self " has been thrust suddenly into the glare of the > global media and into the scrutiny of the global political punditry. > Something that is bound to be difficult. > > - transit KETU at 23° 34' Cancer and 8th house aspects natal > JUPITER in the 4th house, while natal KETU aspects transit 9th lord > SUN in the 9th house. This would be a challenging time for her > husband. Natal Ketu also aspects her 3rd lord SATURN in the 9th > house. This would be a time when she is suddenly thrust into the > spotlight and the world is waiting to hear what she has to say. > > - debilitated transit 11th lord VENUS and exalted transit 10th > lord MERCURY are conjunct in Virgo and on her 10th house MEP in > aspect to her natal exalted VENUS. Transit 5th lord MARS is also in > the 10th house, in aspect to her natal KETU. > > - Transit 8th lord MOON had just passed over her transit KETU. > > -transit RAHU is in her 2nd house. > > > > Her rise in life came during Jupiter-MERCURY period. Her Jupiter > KETU period began earlier in August 2008. So, the unexpected has now > taken front seat in her life. Her Jupiter-VENUS period begins in July > 2009, when her life would be expected take a more pleasant turn for > her. > > > > Given the many natal strengths, it is hard to see her not advancing > very much in her life. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ > > > SAMVA > > Friday, August 29, 2008 4:18:28 PM > > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > > > > Transiting Ketu currently aspects natal Jupiter in her chart which > could cause some political challenges.. . > > > > Warm regards, > > Shayn > > > > > > > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ > > > SAMVA > > Friday, August 29, 2008 10:15:43 AM > > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > > > > No time is given but the date/place is Feb. 11, 1964 in Sandpoint, > Idaho. Without knowing FM/FB, houses, and MEPs, we see no afflictions > to planets from the nodes. We also see a possible Mercury/Moon > conjunction and a Sun/Mars/Saturn (all weak because of old > age/infancy) conjunction. Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn are in good > signs for them. > > > > Warm regards, > > Shayn > > > > > > > > > > devibhakt <devibhakt > > > SAMVA > > Friday, August 29, 2008 8:44:13 AM > > McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > > > > as his VP. Anybody here from Alaska or Idaho who can get her birth > > details? > > > > DB > > > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 From 2009, Jup/Mars period starts - yes. It could mean the tough job of the executive branch in the US. Whether or not we agree with the politics and policies of any administration, it is true that the President and the VP and other cabinet members live tough lives. The stress they must go through can not be underestimated. In her chart, Mars and Saturn conjunction in 6th house may mean arguments, tough life etc... DB SAMVA , Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: > > Hello Devibhakt, > Thanks, but what is the source for the birth time? > The 21° 40' Virgo rising chart (attached) has the 4 FBs well placed and 4th lord JUPITER on the 7th house MEP, aspecting also 11th, 1st and 3rd houses. Several planets are debilitated as Shayn has pointed out. The nodes afflict the even numbered houses, with 5 of them ruled by MT lords. Moreover, the 12th lord SUN in old age in the 5th house is conjunct the 8th lord MARS and 6th lord SATURN in infancy in the 6th house. That is a major affliction. The conjunction of transit Sun and transit Saturn next week at 17° Leo in the 12th house will be under the affliction of the natal KETU in the 4th house, which will also be afflicting transit 4th lord Jupiter. There could be a setback in her life at that time. This chart also suggests significant problems from early 2009 when the Ju/Ma period begins. > This chart is not good at all, if it is correct. > Best wishes, > Thor > > > > > > devibhakt <devibhakt > SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 10:45:45 PM > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > Confirmed. Her birth time is 9:43pm. Sandpoint in Idaho on Feb > 11th, 1964. > > DB > > SAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@> wrote: > > > > Hello Thor, > > Thanks for taking the time to look at her life and a potential > rising sign for her. I guess it is hard for me to see in this chart > the many natal strengths to which you refer. Venus and Jupiter are > debilitated in navamsha, Saturn is in extreme infancy and combust. > Sun and Mars are in old age with Mars combust. And Mercury is > debilitated in navamsha conjunct MMP, Moon. Could you please clarify? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Warm regards, > > Shayn > > > > > > > > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@> > > SAMVA > > Friday, August 29, 2008 2:57:57 PM > > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > > > > Dear Shayn and list members, > > > > I find 6° 22' Sagittarius as a plausible ascendant for her. She is > active and outdoors oriented. She took after her father in sports and > activities. She is an environmentalist, an ethical person and > outspoken. > > > > Jupiter-KETU period is operating. > > - 8th lord MOON on 2nd house MEP. She has one child with Downs > syndrome. > > -10th lord MERCURY on 2nd house MEP. She is governor of a state. > > -11th lord VENUS at 7° 23' Pisces is exalted on 4th house MEP. > > -1st lord JUPITER at 23° 15' Pisces is well placed and strong in > 4th house of mental peace. > > -3rd lord SATURN at 1° 46' Aquarius and in MEP of 3rd house. She > likes to speak out on issues, is well spoken and likes to rule. > > -9th lord SUN is at 28° 26' Capricorn and 2nd house in conjunction > with 5th lord MARS at 29° 41' Capricorn. This gives luck with > children, but there may also be setbacks. > > -KETU at 17° 20 Sagittarius and 1st house, may give > some strange " vibe " to the self. > > -RAHU at 17° 20' Gemini and 7th house may give a worldly spouse or > some disturbance for spouse. > > > > Today the following transits may be noted > > - transit 1st lord JUPITER at 18°41' Sagittarius is conjunct natal > KETU. Her " self " has been thrust suddenly into the glare of the > global media and into the scrutiny of the global political punditry. > Something that is bound to be difficult. > > - transit KETU at 23° 34' Cancer and 8th house aspects natal > JUPITER in the 4th house, while natal KETU aspects transit 9th lord > SUN in the 9th house. This would be a challenging time for her > husband. Natal Ketu also aspects her 3rd lord SATURN in the 9th > house. This would be a time when she is suddenly thrust into the > spotlight and the world is waiting to hear what she has to say. > > - debilitated transit 11th lord VENUS and exalted transit 10th > lord MERCURY are conjunct in Virgo and on her 10th house MEP in > aspect to her natal exalted VENUS. Transit 5th lord MARS is also in > the 10th house, in aspect to her natal KETU. > > - Transit 8th lord MOON had just passed over her transit KETU. > > -transit RAHU is in her 2nd house. > > > > Her rise in life came during Jupiter-MERCURY period. Her Jupiter > KETU period began earlier in August 2008. So, the unexpected has now > taken front seat in her life. Her Jupiter-VENUS period begins in July > 2009, when her life would be expected take a more pleasant turn for > her. > > > > Given the many natal strengths, it is hard to see her not advancing > very much in her life. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ > > > SAMVA > > Friday, August 29, 2008 4:18:28 PM > > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > > > > Transiting Ketu currently aspects natal Jupiter in her chart which > could cause some political challenges.. . > > > > Warm regards, > > Shayn > > > > > > > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ > > > SAMVA > > Friday, August 29, 2008 10:15:43 AM > > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > > > > No time is given but the date/place is Feb. 11, 1964 in Sandpoint, > Idaho. Without knowing FM/FB, houses, and MEPs, we see no afflictions > to planets from the nodes. We also see a possible Mercury/Moon > conjunction and a Sun/Mars/Saturn (all weak because of old > age/infancy) conjunction. Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn are in good > signs for them. > > > > Warm regards, > > Shayn > > > > > > > > > > devibhakt <devibhakt > > > SAMVA > > Friday, August 29, 2008 8:44:13 AM > > McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > > > > as his VP. Anybody here from Alaska or Idaho who can get her birth > > details? > > > > DB > > > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Would you agree that this chart shows great promise in politics? DB SAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: > > Dear Thor, Devibhakt, and List, > I'd like to comment on just a few things in Palin's chart. Her strong Jupiter on the 7th house MEP supports the fact that she has high approval ratings in her role as Governor from the public. It's aspect to the 3rd house makes her competitive and she has participated in sports and majored in journalism (3rd house). Also Jupiter has a role in her strong ethical stands against key state officials and her strong ethical beliefs regarding abortion. > > There are similarities to McCain's 9:00am chart which explains why he may have been attracted to her as a running mate. Both have Virgo ascendants with Jupiter aspecting the 3rd house. Remember McCain's " Straight Talk Express " ? But I think he sees the maverick in her that he also claims in going against the grain at the risk of inviting debate and dispute. Yes, both share 6th house activity where Saturn, L6, aspects the Sun's (government, officials) house in McCain's chart and the Sun directly (conjunct in Palin's chart). > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer > SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 7:11:56 PM > Re: Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > Hello Devibhakt, > > Thanks, but what is the source for the birth time? > > The 21° 40' Virgo rising chart (attached) has the 4 FBs well placed and 4th lord JUPITER on the 7th house MEP, aspecting also 11th, 1st and 3rd houses. Several planets are debilitated as Shayn has pointed out. The nodes afflict the even numbered houses, with 5 of them ruled by MT lords. Moreover, the 12th lord SUN in old age in the 5th house is conjunct the 8th lord MARS and 6th lord SATURN in infancy in the 6th house. That is a major affliction. The conjunction of transit Sun and transit Saturn next week at 17° Leo in the 12th house will be under the affliction of the natal KETU in the 4th house, which will also be afflicting transit 4th lord Jupiter. There could be a setback in her life at that time. This chart also suggests significant problems from early 2009 when the Ju/Ma period begins. > > This chart is not good at all, if it is correct. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > > > > devibhakt <devibhakt > > SAMVA > Friday, August 29, 2008 10:45:45 PM > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > Confirmed. Her birth time is 9:43pm. Sandpoint in Idaho on Feb > 11th, 1964. > > DB > > SAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ ...> wrote: > > > > Hello Thor, > > Thanks for taking the time to look at her life and a potential > rising sign for her. I guess it is hard for me to see in this chart > the many natal strengths to which you refer. Venus and Jupiter are > debilitated in navamsha, Saturn is in extreme infancy and combust. > Sun and Mars are in old age with Mars combust. And Mercury is > debilitated in navamsha conjunct MMP, Moon. Could you please clarify? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Warm regards, > > Shayn > > > > > > > > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@ ..> > > SAMVA > > Friday, August 29, 2008 2:57:57 PM > > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > > > > Dear Shayn and list members, > > > > I find 6° 22' Sagittarius as a plausible ascendant for her. She is > active and outdoors oriented. She took after her father in sports and > activities. She is an environmentalist, an ethical person and > outspoken. > > > > Jupiter-KETU period is operating. > > - 8th lord MOON on 2nd house MEP. She has one child with Downs > syndrome. > > -10th lord MERCURY on 2nd house MEP. She is governor of a state. > > -11th lord VENUS at 7° 23' Pisces is exalted on 4th house MEP. > > -1st lord JUPITER at 23° 15' Pisces is well placed and strong in > 4th house of mental peace. > > -3rd lord SATURN at 1° 46' Aquarius and in MEP of 3rd house. She > likes to speak out on issues, is well spoken and likes to rule. > > -9th lord SUN is at 28° 26' Capricorn and 2nd house in conjunction > with 5th lord MARS at 29° 41' Capricorn. This gives luck with > children, but there may also be setbacks. > > -KETU at 17° 20 Sagittarius and 1st house, may give > some strange " vibe " to the self. > > -RAHU at 17° 20' Gemini and 7th house may give a worldly spouse or > some disturbance for spouse. > > > > Today the following transits may be noted > > - transit 1st lord JUPITER at 18°41' Sagittarius is conjunct natal > KETU. Her " self " has been thrust suddenly into the glare of the > global media and into the scrutiny of the global political punditry. > Something that is bound to be difficult. > > - transit KETU at 23° 34' Cancer and 8th house aspects natal > JUPITER in the 4th house, while natal KETU aspects transit 9th lord > SUN in the 9th house. This would be a challenging time for her > husband. Natal Ketu also aspects her 3rd lord SATURN in the 9th > house. This would be a time when she is suddenly thrust into the > spotlight and the world is waiting to hear what she has to say. > > - debilitated transit 11th lord VENUS and exalted transit 10th > lord MERCURY are conjunct in Virgo and on her 10th house MEP in > aspect to her natal exalted VENUS. Transit 5th lord MARS is also in > the 10th house, in aspect to her natal KETU. > > - Transit 8th lord MOON had just passed over her transit KETU. > > -transit RAHU is in her 2nd house. > > > > Her rise in life came during Jupiter-MERCURY period. Her Jupiter > KETU period began earlier in August 2008. So, the unexpected has now > taken front seat in her life. Her Jupiter-VENUS period begins in July > 2009, when her life would be expected take a more pleasant turn for > her. > > > > Given the many natal strengths, it is hard to see her not advancing > very much in her life. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ > > > SAMVA > > Friday, August 29, 2008 4:18:28 PM > > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > > > > Transiting Ketu currently aspects natal Jupiter in her chart which > could cause some political challenges.. . > > > > Warm regards, > > Shayn > > > > > > > > > > Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ > > > SAMVA > > Friday, August 29, 2008 10:15:43 AM > > Re: McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > > > > No time is given but the date/place is Feb. 11, 1964 in Sandpoint, > Idaho. Without knowing FM/FB, houses, and MEPs, we see no afflictions > to planets from the nodes. We also see a possible Mercury/Moon > conjunction and a Sun/Mars/Saturn (all weak because of old > age/infancy) conjunction. Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn are in good > signs for them. > > > > Warm regards, > > Shayn > > > > > > > > > > devibhakt <devibhakt > > > SAMVA > > Friday, August 29, 2008 8:44:13 AM > > McCain picks Sarah Palin > > > > > > as his VP. Anybody here from Alaska or Idaho who can get her birth > > details? > > > > DB > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2008 Report Share Posted August 30, 2008 Although, in my personal view, there is no such thing as kaal sarpa yoga but eveb with the definition that is given by modern day astrologers, there is a break in the yoga - in this chart, that is. This combination is present in many successful and known politicians on 20th century. Apparently this yoga is good for politicians. DB , " John " <jr_esq wrote: > > Namaste DB, > > Thanks for the information. The chart shows Palin has a conjunction > of Mars/Saturn in the 6th house which persists in the navamsha. This > may cause problems for her in the future. According to present news > coverage, this conjunction has manifested in her life through a > questionable dismissal of a state official in Alaska. > > She has a Kala Sarpa Yoga which is traditionally considered not good > for the person. > > On the positive side, she is running the mahadasha of Jupiter in > swakshetra in the rashi chart. So, she is benefitting from the good > placement of Jupiter and has put her into the national political > arena out of the relative anonymity as governor of Alaska. > > During the mahadasha of Jupiter, it appears that she will do well and > help McCain during the election. However, I have not seen McCain's > chart. So, I cannot determine if he will win the presidency or not. > > Regards, > > JR > > > > > > , " devibhakt " <devibhakt@> > wrote: > > > > Her birth time is being mentioned as 9:43pm. Mars and Saturn are > > conjunct in 6th house. Jupiter in own house in 7th. Venus exalted > > in rashi but debilitated in navamsa. Mercury exalted in Rashi but > > debilitated in navamsa. > > > > Currently running Jupiter/Moon. Both planets strong in the chart. > > Moon is exalted in navamsa. > > > > DB > > > > , " devibhakt " <devibhakt@> > > wrote: > > > > > > On her birthday (11th Feb 1964, Sandpoint ID), all planets were > > between > > > Rahu and Ketu. > > > > > > Many successful politicians are known to have this yoga. > > > > > > DB > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 President Bush has Kala Amrita Yoga which is a variation of the same Kala Sarpa Yoga. He may have been elected to the presidency. But he made a catastrophic mistake, with global effects, by attacking Iraq. If Palin ever becomes president, she would be disastrous for the USA and the world for that matter. JR , " devibhakt " <devibhakt wrote: > > Although, in my personal view, there is no such thing as kaal sarpa > yoga but eveb with the definition that is given by modern day > astrologers, there is a break in the yoga - in this chart, that is. > > This combination is present in many successful and known politicians > on 20th century. Apparently this yoga is good for politicians. > > DB > > > > , " John " <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > Namaste DB, > > > > Thanks for the information. The chart shows Palin has a > conjunction > > of Mars/Saturn in the 6th house which persists in the navamsha. > This > > may cause problems for her in the future. According to present > news > > coverage, this conjunction has manifested in her life through a > > questionable dismissal of a state official in Alaska. > > > > She has a Kala Sarpa Yoga which is traditionally considered not > good > > for the person. > > > > On the positive side, she is running the mahadasha of Jupiter in > > swakshetra in the rashi chart. So, she is benefitting from the > good > > placement of Jupiter and has put her into the national political > > arena out of the relative anonymity as governor of Alaska. > > > > During the mahadasha of Jupiter, it appears that she will do well > and > > help McCain during the election. However, I have not seen McCain's > > chart. So, I cannot determine if he will win the presidency or not. > > > > Regards, > > > > JR > > > > > > > > > > > > , " devibhakt " <devibhakt@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Her birth time is being mentioned as 9:43pm. Mars and Saturn are > > > conjunct in 6th house. Jupiter in own house in 7th. Venus > exalted > > > in rashi but debilitated in navamsa. Mercury exalted in Rashi > but > > > debilitated in navamsa. > > > > > > Currently running Jupiter/Moon. Both planets strong in the > chart. > > > Moon is exalted in navamsa. > > > > > > DB > > > > > > , " devibhakt " <devibhakt@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On her birthday (11th Feb 1964, Sandpoint ID), all planets were > > > between > > > > Rahu and Ketu. > > > > > > > > Many successful politicians are known to have this yoga. > > > > > > > > DB > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2008 Report Share Posted August 31, 2008 Our effort is to find out whether or not a person can attain a big office if this combination exists in his/her chart, and not to judge their policies. Let history judge them. So you seem to agree that a person with this combination in the natal chart can attain big offices? DB , " John " <jr_esq wrote: > > President Bush has Kala Amrita Yoga which is a variation of the same > Kala Sarpa Yoga. He may have been elected to the presidency. But he > made a catastrophic mistake, with global effects, by attacking Iraq. > > If Palin ever becomes president, she would be disastrous for the USA > and the world for that matter. > > JR > > > , " devibhakt " <devibhakt@> > wrote: > > > > Although, in my personal view, there is no such thing as kaal sarpa > > yoga but eveb with the definition that is given by modern day > > astrologers, there is a break in the yoga - in this chart, that is. > > > > This combination is present in many successful and known > politicians > > on 20th century. Apparently this yoga is good for politicians. > > > > DB > > > > > > > > , " John " <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste DB, > > > > > > Thanks for the information. The chart shows Palin has a > > conjunction > > > of Mars/Saturn in the 6th house which persists in the navamsha. > > This > > > may cause problems for her in the future. According to present > > news > > > coverage, this conjunction has manifested in her life through a > > > questionable dismissal of a state official in Alaska. > > > > > > She has a Kala Sarpa Yoga which is traditionally considered not > > good > > > for the person. > > > > > > On the positive side, she is running the mahadasha of Jupiter in > > > swakshetra in the rashi chart. So, she is benefitting from the > > good > > > placement of Jupiter and has put her into the national political > > > arena out of the relative anonymity as governor of Alaska. > > > > > > During the mahadasha of Jupiter, it appears that she will do well > > and > > > help McCain during the election. However, I have not seen > McCain's > > > chart. So, I cannot determine if he will win the presidency or > not. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > JR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " devibhakt " <devibhakt@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Her birth time is being mentioned as 9:43pm. Mars and Saturn > are > > > > conjunct in 6th house. Jupiter in own house in 7th. Venus > > exalted > > > > in rashi but debilitated in navamsa. Mercury exalted in Rashi > > but > > > > debilitated in navamsa. > > > > > > > > Currently running Jupiter/Moon. Both planets strong in the > > chart. > > > > Moon is exalted in navamsa. > > > > > > > > DB > > > > > > > > , " devibhakt " <devibhakt@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On her birthday (11th Feb 1964, Sandpoint ID), all planets > were > > > > between > > > > > Rahu and Ketu. > > > > > > > > > > Many successful politicians are known to have this yoga. > > > > > > > > > > DB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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