Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Dear Prof, I have a chart of my close associate who was shot dead at point blank range on 23th Saturday August 2008. His birth particulars are as follows: 29th July 1966 Time: 8.10am Zone: GMT 7.30 Batang Melaka 101E41 2N45 He is a Leo as his Lagna. The MEP is 2.54 degrees. Please give me your valuable insight into the person's death. I have done a detailed analysis but cannot seem to get this event. Thank you. Francis Decruz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Dear Mr. Francis, His longevity is ruled by the Sun and the Moon. The Sun is weak due to placement in the twelfth house and the Moon is weak due to infancy and placement in an afflicted house. The placement of Venus, Mars and Jupiter in an afflicted house and of Mercury, Sun and Saturn in malefic houses does indicate curtailed longevity for the person. He was in the sub period of Rahu which causes close affliction to the tenth, second, fourth and sixth houses. The sub period of Rahu which is afflicting the sixth house, as well, is appeared to have caused the death due to some enemity. May God bless the departed soul with peace. - Francis de Cruz Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:54 AM Reason for His Death Dear Prof, I have a chart of my close associate who was shot dead at point blank range on 23th Saturday August 2008. His birth particulars are as follows: 29th July 1966 Time: 8.10am Zone: GMT 7.30 Batang Melaka 101E41 2N45 He is a Leo as his Lagna. The MEP is 2.54 degrees. Please give me your valuable insight into the person's death. I have done a detailed analysis but cannot seem to get this event. Thank you. Francis Decruz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Dear Prof, As you have rightly pointed out, his death was attributed to enemity of the worst kind. But transit wise, when the incident took place, save for the fact that Rahu was in the 6th house (enemies, violence) and that it was stationary, it was away from the MEP. What I can't understand is the transit of planets don't show the triggering of the event, if we were to focus on the rule that proximity of planets to the MEP within the 5 degree range is a prerequisite before some event occurs. In this case, the transits seem to be quite neutral insofar as the 'trigger factor' is concerned. Can you please elaborate on the trigger factor. Thank you Francis Decruz --- On Tue, 8/26/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry Re: Reason for His Death Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:21 PM Dear Mr. Francis, His longevity is ruled by the Sun and the Moon. The Sun is weak due to placement in the twelfth house and the Moon is weak due to infancy and placement in an afflicted house. The placement of Venus, Mars and Jupiter in an afflicted house and of Mercury, Sun and Saturn in malefic houses does indicate curtailed longevity for the person. He was in the sub period of Rahu which causes close affliction to the tenth, second, fourth and sixth houses. The sub period of Rahu which is afflicting the sixth house, as well, is appeared to have caused the death due to some enemity. May God bless the departed soul with peace. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:54 AM Reason for His Death Dear Prof, I have a chart of my close associate who was shot dead at point blank range on 23th Saturday August 2008. His birth particulars are as follows: 29th July 1966 Time: 8.10am Zone: GMT 7.30 Batang Melaka 101E41 2N45 He is a Leo as his Lagna. The MEP is 2.54 degrees. Please give me your valuable insight into the person's death. I have done a detailed analysis but cannot seem to get this event. Thank you. Francis Decruz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Hello dear Mr. Francis, For precise applicaton of transit influences you are right that there is no indication. May be the birth chart required some rectification. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:15 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, As you have rightly pointed out, his death was attributed to enemity of the worst kind. But transit wise, when the incident took place, save for the fact that Rahu was in the 6th house (enemies, violence) and that it was stationary, it was away from the MEP. What I can't understand is the transit of planets don't show the triggering of the event, if we were to focus on the rule that proximity of planets to the MEP within the 5 degree range is a prerequisite before some event occurs. In this case, the transits seem to be quite neutral insofar as the 'trigger factor' is concerned. Can you please elaborate on the trigger factor. Thank you Francis Decruz --- On Tue, 8/26/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry Re: Reason for His Death Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:21 PM Dear Mr. Francis, His longevity is ruled by the Sun and the Moon. The Sun is weak due to placement in the twelfth house and the Moon is weak due to infancy and placement in an afflicted house. The placement of Venus, Mars and Jupiter in an afflicted house and of Mercury, Sun and Saturn in malefic houses does indicate curtailed longevity for the person. He was in the sub period of Rahu which causes close affliction to the tenth, second, fourth and sixth houses. The sub period of Rahu which is afflicting the sixth house, as well, is appeared to have caused the death due to some enemity. May God bless the departed soul with peace. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:54 AM Reason for His Death Dear Prof, I have a chart of my close associate who was shot dead at point blank range on 23th Saturday August 2008. His birth particulars are as follows: 29th July 1966 Time: 8.10am Zone: GMT 7.30 Batang Melaka 101E41 2N45 He is a Leo as his Lagna. The MEP is 2.54 degrees. Please give me your valuable insight into the person's death. I have done a detailed analysis but cannot seem to get this event. Thank you. Francis Decruz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Dear Prof, On the point of rectification, I have my doubts as the birth information have been extracted from the General Hospital Birth Certificate. Even if there had been an error, it may be marginal but certainly not to the extent of several hours, if we are to pull in the Rahu-Ketu factor (presently stationary at 24 degrees), to make it the immediate causative factor (bearing in mind that, based on the current birth records his MEP is 2 degrees plus.) This person has consulted me on numerous times in the past and I had been fortunate in getting things right with him. But not his death. Regards, Francis De Cruz --- On Wed, 8/27/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry Re: Reason for His Death Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 9:36 AM Hello dear Mr. Francis, For precise applicaton of transit influences you are right that there is no indication. May be the birth chart required some rectification. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:15 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, As you have rightly pointed out, his death was attributed to enemity of the worst kind. But transit wise, when the incident took place, save for the fact that Rahu was in the 6th house (enemies, violence) and that it was stationary, it was away from the MEP. What I can't understand is the transit of planets don't show the triggering of the event, if we were to focus on the rule that proximity of planets to the MEP within the 5 degree range is a prerequisite before some event occurs. In this case, the transits seem to be quite neutral insofar as the 'trigger factor' is concerned. Can you please elaborate on the trigger factor. Thank you Francis Decruz --- On Tue, 8/26/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Reason for His Death @ s.com Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:21 PM Dear Mr. Francis, His longevity is ruled by the Sun and the Moon. The Sun is weak due to placement in the twelfth house and the Moon is weak due to infancy and placement in an afflicted house. The placement of Venus, Mars and Jupiter in an afflicted house and of Mercury, Sun and Saturn in malefic houses does indicate curtailed longevity for the person. He was in the sub period of Rahu which causes close affliction to the tenth, second, fourth and sixth houses. The sub period of Rahu which is afflicting the sixth house, as well, is appeared to have caused the death due to some enemity. May God bless the departed soul with peace. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:54 AM Reason for His Death Dear Prof, I have a chart of my close associate who was shot dead at point blank range on 23th Saturday August 2008. His birth particulars are as follows: 29th July 1966 Time: 8.10am Zone: GMT 7.30 Batang Melaka 101E41 2N45 He is a Leo as his Lagna. The MEP is 2.54 degrees. Please give me your valuable insight into the person's death. I have done a detailed analysis but cannot seem to get this event. Thank you. Francis Decruz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Hello dear Mr. Francis, OK. The only other transit trigger is the affliction by natal Rahu to transit Mercury and Venus. What was the time when he was shot dead?. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:37 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, On the point of rectification, I have my doubts as the birth information have been extracted from the General Hospital Birth Certificate. Even if there had been an error, it may be marginal but certainly not to the extent of several hours, if we are to pull in the Rahu-Ketu factor (presently stationary at 24 degrees), to make it the immediate causative factor (bearing in mind that, based on the current birth records his MEP is 2 degrees plus.) This person has consulted me on numerous times in the past and I had been fortunate in getting things right with him. But not his death. Regards, Francis De Cruz --- On Wed, 8/27/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry Re: Reason for His Death Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 9:36 AM Hello dear Mr. Francis, For precise applicaton of transit influences you are right that there is no indication. May be the birth chart required some rectification. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:15 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, As you have rightly pointed out, his death was attributed to enemity of the worst kind. But transit wise, when the incident took place, save for the fact that Rahu was in the 6th house (enemies, violence) and that it was stationary, it was away from the MEP. What I can't understand is the transit of planets don't show the triggering of the event, if we were to focus on the rule that proximity of planets to the MEP within the 5 degree range is a prerequisite before some event occurs. In this case, the transits seem to be quite neutral insofar as the 'trigger factor' is concerned. Can you please elaborate on the trigger factor. Thank you Francis Decruz --- On Tue, 8/26/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Reason for His Death @ s.com Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:21 PM Dear Mr. Francis, His longevity is ruled by the Sun and the Moon. The Sun is weak due to placement in the twelfth house and the Moon is weak due to infancy and placement in an afflicted house. The placement of Venus, Mars and Jupiter in an afflicted house and of Mercury, Sun and Saturn in malefic houses does indicate curtailed longevity for the person. He was in the sub period of Rahu which causes close affliction to the tenth, second, fourth and sixth houses. The sub period of Rahu which is afflicting the sixth house, as well, is appeared to have caused the death due to some enemity. May God bless the departed soul with peace. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:54 AM Reason for His Death Dear Prof, I have a chart of my close associate who was shot dead at point blank range on 23th Saturday August 2008. His birth particulars are as follows: 29th July 1966 Time: 8.10am Zone: GMT 7.30 Batang Melaka 101E41 2N45 He is a Leo as his Lagna. The MEP is 2.54 degrees. Please give me your valuable insight into the person's death. I have done a detailed analysis but cannot seem to get this event. Thank you. Francis Decruz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Dear Prof, He was shot point blank in the left eye. It happened at 1.45pm (local time). As to Mercury and Venus being fast moving planets, would Rahu's affliction cause such a earth moving event? Regards, Francis De Cruz --- On Wed, 8/27/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry Re: Reason for His Death Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 10:28 AM Hello dear Mr. Francis, OK. The only other transit trigger is the affliction by natal Rahu to transit Mercury and Venus. What was the time when he was shot dead?. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:37 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, On the point of rectification, I have my doubts as the birth information have been extracted from the General Hospital Birth Certificate. Even if there had been an error, it may be marginal but certainly not to the extent of several hours, if we are to pull in the Rahu-Ketu factor (presently stationary at 24 degrees), to make it the immediate causative factor (bearing in mind that, based on the current birth records his MEP is 2 degrees plus.) This person has consulted me on numerous times in the past and I had been fortunate in getting things right with him. But not his death. Regards, Francis De Cruz --- On Wed, 8/27/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Reason for His Death @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 9:36 AM Hello dear Mr. Francis, For precise applicaton of transit influences you are right that there is no indication. May be the birth chart required some rectification. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:15 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, As you have rightly pointed out, his death was attributed to enemity of the worst kind. But transit wise, when the incident took place, save for the fact that Rahu was in the 6th house (enemies, violence) and that it was stationary, it was away from the MEP. What I can't understand is the transit of planets don't show the triggering of the event, if we were to focus on the rule that proximity of planets to the MEP within the 5 degree range is a prerequisite before some event occurs. In this case, the transits seem to be quite neutral insofar as the 'trigger factor' is concerned. Can you please elaborate on the trigger factor. Thank you Francis Decruz --- On Tue, 8/26/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry@ gmail. com> wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry@ gmail. com> Re: Reason for His Death @ s.com Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:21 PM Dear Mr. Francis, His longevity is ruled by the Sun and the Moon. The Sun is weak due to placement in the twelfth house and the Moon is weak due to infancy and placement in an afflicted house. The placement of Venus, Mars and Jupiter in an afflicted house and of Mercury, Sun and Saturn in malefic houses does indicate curtailed longevity for the person. He was in the sub period of Rahu which causes close affliction to the tenth, second, fourth and sixth houses. The sub period of Rahu which is afflicting the sixth house, as well, is appeared to have caused the death due to some enemity. May God bless the departed soul with peace. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:54 AM Reason for His Death Dear Prof, I have a chart of my close associate who was shot dead at point blank range on 23th Saturday August 2008. His birth particulars are as follows: 29th July 1966 Time: 8.10am Zone: GMT 7.30 Batang Melaka 101E41 2N45 He is a Leo as his Lagna. The MEP is 2.54 degrees. Please give me your valuable insight into the person's death. I have done a detailed analysis but cannot seem to get this event. Thank you. Francis Decruz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Hello dear Mr. Francis, The sub period lords'presence in the sixth houses for a long time can be triggered by some other short term transit affliction. Now if this person would have come for a consultation prior to his death, this transit affliction would be brought to his notice for caution. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:36 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, He was shot point blank in the left eye. It happened at 1.45pm (local time). As to Mercury and Venus being fast moving planets, would Rahu's affliction cause such a earth moving event? Regards, Francis De Cruz --- On Wed, 8/27/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry Re: Reason for His Death Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 10:28 AM Hello dear Mr. Francis, OK. The only other transit trigger is the affliction by natal Rahu to transit Mercury and Venus. What was the time when he was shot dead?. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:37 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, On the point of rectification, I have my doubts as the birth information have been extracted from the General Hospital Birth Certificate. Even if there had been an error, it may be marginal but certainly not to the extent of several hours, if we are to pull in the Rahu-Ketu factor (presently stationary at 24 degrees), to make it the immediate causative factor (bearing in mind that, based on the current birth records his MEP is 2 degrees plus.) This person has consulted me on numerous times in the past and I had been fortunate in getting things right with him. But not his death. Regards, Francis De Cruz --- On Wed, 8/27/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Reason for His Death @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 9:36 AM Hello dear Mr. Francis, For precise applicaton of transit influences you are right that there is no indication. May be the birth chart required some rectification. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:15 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, As you have rightly pointed out, his death was attributed to enemity of the worst kind. But transit wise, when the incident took place, save for the fact that Rahu was in the 6th house (enemies, violence) and that it was stationary, it was away from the MEP. What I can't understand is the transit of planets don't show the triggering of the event, if we were to focus on the rule that proximity of planets to the MEP within the 5 degree range is a prerequisite before some event occurs. In this case, the transits seem to be quite neutral insofar as the 'trigger factor' is concerned. Can you please elaborate on the trigger factor. Thank you Francis Decruz --- On Tue, 8/26/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry@ gmail. com> wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry@ gmail. com> Re: Reason for His Death @ s.com Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:21 PM Dear Mr. Francis, His longevity is ruled by the Sun and the Moon. The Sun is weak due to placement in the twelfth house and the Moon is weak due to infancy and placement in an afflicted house. The placement of Venus, Mars and Jupiter in an afflicted house and of Mercury, Sun and Saturn in malefic houses does indicate curtailed longevity for the person. He was in the sub period of Rahu which causes close affliction to the tenth, second, fourth and sixth houses. The sub period of Rahu which is afflicting the sixth house, as well, is appeared to have caused the death due to some enemity. May God bless the departed soul with peace. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:54 AM Reason for His Death Dear Prof, I have a chart of my close associate who was shot dead at point blank range on 23th Saturday August 2008. His birth particulars are as follows: 29th July 1966 Time: 8.10am Zone: GMT 7.30 Batang Melaka 101E41 2N45 He is a Leo as his Lagna. The MEP is 2.54 degrees. Please give me your valuable insight into the person's death. I have done a detailed analysis but cannot seem to get this event. Thank you. Francis Decruz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Dear Prof, What you pointed out in your first paragraph is the key and in fact the answer to what I have been looking for. This sort of analysis can only come about with experience, not knowledge alone. I mean, the stationary effects of malefics are well known for its tragic results. The presence of a malefic in stationary stance and that too in a bad house is already something akin to a bubble waiting to burst, when taken together with some other malefic configuration elsewhere in the chart ( irrespective of its placement away from the MEP). Well said. This is a new dimension to my learning of the divine science. This actually does mean that we need not wait for the malefics to be close to MEP all the time, for the evil results to manifest. The evil planet in a evil house can trigger off its results even when away from the MEP. Thank you, Sir. Regards, Francis decruz --- On Wed, 8/27/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry Re: Reason for His Death Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 12:33 PM Hello dear Mr. Francis, The sub period lords'presence in the sixth houses for a long time can be triggered by some other short term transit affliction. Now if this person would have come for a consultation prior to his death, this transit affliction would be brought to his notice for caution. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:36 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, He was shot point blank in the left eye. It happened at 1.45pm (local time). As to Mercury and Venus being fast moving planets, would Rahu's affliction cause such a earth moving event? Regards, Francis De Cruz --- On Wed, 8/27/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Reason for His Death @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 10:28 AM Hello dear Mr. Francis, OK. The only other transit trigger is the affliction by natal Rahu to transit Mercury and Venus. What was the time when he was shot dead?. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:37 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, On the point of rectification, I have my doubts as the birth information have been extracted from the General Hospital Birth Certificate. Even if there had been an error, it may be marginal but certainly not to the extent of several hours, if we are to pull in the Rahu-Ketu factor (presently stationary at 24 degrees), to make it the immediate causative factor (bearing in mind that, based on the current birth records his MEP is 2 degrees plus.) This person has consulted me on numerous times in the past and I had been fortunate in getting things right with him. But not his death. Regards, Francis De Cruz --- On Wed, 8/27/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry@ gmail. com> wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry@ gmail. com> Re: Reason for His Death @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 9:36 AM Hello dear Mr. Francis, For precise applicaton of transit influences you are right that there is no indication. May be the birth chart required some rectification. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:15 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, As you have rightly pointed out, his death was attributed to enemity of the worst kind. But transit wise, when the incident took place, save for the fact that Rahu was in the 6th house (enemies, violence) and that it was stationary, it was away from the MEP. What I can't understand is the transit of planets don't show the triggering of the event, if we were to focus on the rule that proximity of planets to the MEP within the 5 degree range is a prerequisite before some event occurs. In this case, the transits seem to be quite neutral insofar as the 'trigger factor' is concerned. Can you please elaborate on the trigger factor. Thank you Francis Decruz --- On Tue, 8/26/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry@ gmail. com> wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry@ gmail. com> Re: Reason for His Death @ s.com Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:21 PM Dear Mr. Francis, His longevity is ruled by the Sun and the Moon. The Sun is weak due to placement in the twelfth house and the Moon is weak due to infancy and placement in an afflicted house. The placement of Venus, Mars and Jupiter in an afflicted house and of Mercury, Sun and Saturn in malefic houses does indicate curtailed longevity for the person. He was in the sub period of Rahu which causes close affliction to the tenth, second, fourth and sixth houses. The sub period of Rahu which is afflicting the sixth house, as well, is appeared to have caused the death due to some enemity. May God bless the departed soul with peace. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:54 AM Reason for His Death Dear Prof, I have a chart of my close associate who was shot dead at point blank range on 23th Saturday August 2008. His birth particulars are as follows: 29th July 1966 Time: 8.10am Zone: GMT 7.30 Batang Melaka 101E41 2N45 He is a Leo as his Lagna. The MEP is 2.54 degrees. Please give me your valuable insight into the person's death. I have done a detailed analysis but cannot seem to get this event. Thank you. Francis Decruz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 Hello dear Mr. Francis, Your understanding is right. At the same time, the propitiatory remedies for the afflicting planets help a lot. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:34 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, What you pointed out in your first paragraph is the key and in fact the answer to what I have been looking for. This sort of analysis can only come about with experience, not knowledge alone. I mean, the stationary effects of malefics are well known for its tragic results. The presence of a malefic in stationary stance and that too in a bad house is already something akin to a bubble waiting to burst, when taken together with some other malefic configuration elsewhere in the chart ( irrespective of its placement away from the MEP). Well said. This is a new dimension to my learning of the divine science. This actually does mean that we need not wait for the malefics to be close to MEP all the time, for the evil results to manifest. The evil planet in a evil house can trigger off its results even when away from the MEP. Thank you, Sir. Regards, Francis decruz --- On Wed, 8/27/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry Re: Reason for His Death Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 12:33 PM Hello dear Mr. Francis, The sub period lords'presence in the sixth houses for a long time can be triggered by some other short term transit affliction. Now if this person would have come for a consultation prior to his death, this transit affliction would be brought to his notice for caution. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:36 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, He was shot point blank in the left eye. It happened at 1.45pm (local time). As to Mercury and Venus being fast moving planets, would Rahu's affliction cause such a earth moving event? Regards, Francis De Cruz --- On Wed, 8/27/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: Reason for His Death @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 10:28 AM Hello dear Mr. Francis, OK. The only other transit trigger is the affliction by natal Rahu to transit Mercury and Venus. What was the time when he was shot dead?. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:37 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, On the point of rectification, I have my doubts as the birth information have been extracted from the General Hospital Birth Certificate. Even if there had been an error, it may be marginal but certainly not to the extent of several hours, if we are to pull in the Rahu-Ketu factor (presently stationary at 24 degrees), to make it the immediate causative factor (bearing in mind that, based on the current birth records his MEP is 2 degrees plus.) This person has consulted me on numerous times in the past and I had been fortunate in getting things right with him. But not his death. Regards, Francis De Cruz --- On Wed, 8/27/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry@ gmail. com> wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry@ gmail. com> Re: Reason for His Death @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 9:36 AM Hello dear Mr. Francis, For precise applicaton of transit influences you are right that there is no indication. May be the birth chart required some rectification. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:15 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, As you have rightly pointed out, his death was attributed to enemity of the worst kind. But transit wise, when the incident took place, save for the fact that Rahu was in the 6th house (enemies, violence) and that it was stationary, it was away from the MEP. What I can't understand is the transit of planets don't show the triggering of the event, if we were to focus on the rule that proximity of planets to the MEP within the 5 degree range is a prerequisite before some event occurs. In this case, the transits seem to be quite neutral insofar as the 'trigger factor' is concerned. Can you please elaborate on the trigger factor. Thank you Francis Decruz --- On Tue, 8/26/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry@ gmail. com> wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry@ gmail. com> Re: Reason for His Death @ s.com Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:21 PM Dear Mr. Francis, His longevity is ruled by the Sun and the Moon. The Sun is weak due to placement in the twelfth house and the Moon is weak due to infancy and placement in an afflicted house. The placement of Venus, Mars and Jupiter in an afflicted house and of Mercury, Sun and Saturn in malefic houses does indicate curtailed longevity for the person. He was in the sub period of Rahu which causes close affliction to the tenth, second, fourth and sixth houses. The sub period of Rahu which is afflicting the sixth house, as well, is appeared to have caused the death due to some enemity. May God bless the departed soul with peace. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:54 AM Reason for His Death Dear Prof, I have a chart of my close associate who was shot dead at point blank range on 23th Saturday August 2008. His birth particulars are as follows: 29th July 1966 Time: 8.10am Zone: GMT 7.30 Batang Melaka 101E41 2N45 He is a Leo as his Lagna. The MEP is 2.54 degrees. Please give me your valuable insight into the person's death. I have done a detailed analysis but cannot seem to get this event. Thank you. Francis Decruz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Hello Francis Thank you for posting this interisting case study. Our dear has given the key factors to take into consideration to explain the reasons for his death. Let me add some additional remarks. In this chart, even houses are under nodes' affliction and 5H/11H under narrow affliction of the Most Malefic Planet, Moon. Longevity analysis according to SA principles gives 'alpayu', i.e short span of life : - Sun, prime determinant is badly placed and debilited in navamsa. It has afflicted house of placement and weak Moon as dispositor. - Moon and Saturn (ayushkaraka) become supplementary determinants. Infant Moon afflicts narrowly its house of placement whose dispositor, Jupiter, is afflicted by Ketu besides affliction of its house of placement. Saturn aspects the MMP Moon from the 8H of death and obstructions. Its house of placement is also under nodes'affliction. Two more points : - in Navamsa : Mars, lord of D9 is located in 12H. This means Mars period or subperiods can trigger severe setbacks. - in Ashtamsa : Jupiter, lord of ascendant has its second dispositor Mercury in 8H. Rahu and Ketu are located in 12H. Rahu is debilitated. This means that life span is not protected during the Rahu periods/subperiods. The tragic happening occured on 23th august 2008 at 13H45 local time. The operating subperiod is Rahu, endangering life, and the main period lord is Mars, associated with setbacks. In Rasi, Mars is weak du to narrow affliction of its house of placement by the MMP. Mars being dispositor of Rahu in Rasi becomes activated during this Rahu subperiod. If we look at transit situation, here are additional remarks. Of course, Rahu and Ketu stationary in the 6H/12H play a key role as they give stonger malefic caracter to the Moon (Ketu in Cancer). Consider also that : - transit Mars aspects natal MMP Mo and natal Saturn. Its dispositor in transit, Mercury, in conjunction with Venus, is under affliction from natal Rahu in the 9H. The transit Mars is connected with sudden and tragic happenings. - transit Moon at the moment of death enters the 2° orb of affliction of natal Rahu and becomes the death inflincting planet. I note also that Mars is significator for the head and Moon for the left eye. As professor already said, if this person would have come for consultation prior to his death, the running of Rahu subperiod was enough indicative of sudden and severe setbacks to advise her caution and remedial measures. May God bless the departed soul with peace. Hope this helps Best Wishes Jo Cohen - Francis de Cruz Wednesday, August 27, 2008 2:45 AM Re: Reason for His Death Dear Prof, As you have rightly pointed out, his death was attributed to enemity of the worst kind. But transit wise, when the incident took place, save for the fact that Rahu was in the 6th house (enemies, violence) and that it was stationary, it was away from the MEP. What I can't understand is the transit of planets don't show the triggering of the event, if we were to focus on the rule that proximity of planets to the MEP within the 5 degree range is a prerequisite before some event occurs. In this case, the transits seem to be quite neutral insofar as the 'trigger factor' is concerned. Can you please elaborate on the trigger factor. Thank you Francis Decruz --- On Tue, 8/26/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry Re: Reason for His Death Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 3:21 PM Dear Mr. Francis, His longevity is ruled by the Sun and the Moon. The Sun is weak due to placement in the twelfth house and the Moon is weak due to infancy and placement in an afflicted house. The placement of Venus, Mars and Jupiter in an afflicted house and of Mercury, Sun and Saturn in malefic houses does indicate curtailed longevity for the person. He was in the sub period of Rahu which causes close affliction to the tenth, second, fourth and sixth houses. The sub period of Rahu which is afflicting the sixth house, as well, is appeared to have caused the death due to some enemity. May God bless the departed soul with peace. - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:54 AM Reason for His Death Dear Prof, I have a chart of my close associate who was shot dead at point blank range on 23th Saturday August 2008. His birth particulars are as follows: 29th July 1966 Time: 8.10am Zone: GMT 7.30 Batang Melaka 101E41 2N45 He is a Leo as his Lagna. The MEP is 2.54 degrees. Please give me your valuable insight into the person's death. I have done a detailed analysis but cannot seem to get this event. Thank you. Francis Decruz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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