Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Dear List Members, Here are some dates for the rectification work on the precise degree of Mr. Obama´s Capricorn lagna: *Intervalo: (19:10: /19:40: )* *Eventos**â*** *Date* 1. Father died, car accident *24.11.82* 2. Admited as Lawyer by IL *17.12.91* 3. Marries Michele *03.10.92* 4. Dreams From My Father published *18.07.95* 5. Mother died, ovarian cancer *07.11.95* 6. Driving License *19.08.96* 7. Elected to Illinois State Senate *03.01.97* 8. First daughter is born *04.07.98* 9. Chalenges Bobby Rush, is defeated *21.03.00* 10. Wins US Senate primary *16.03.04* 11. Delivers keynote address, Democratic Party *27.07.04* 12. Wins US Senate seat *02.11.04* 13. US Senate *04.01.05* 14. Audacity of Hope published *17.10.06* 15. Enters race for White House *16.01.07* 16. Formal announcement of race for WH *10.02.07* *17. Quits his church* *31.03.08* Best wishes, Jorge On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelinowrote: > Capricorn lagna > > - Jorge > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Branka Bjelajac <brahmankawrote: > >> Dear Jorge, hi! >> >> Did you find the Lagna for mr. Obama. >> -Branca! >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Jorge Angelino < >> jorge.angelino wrote: >> >>> The reason is that there is more than one time of birth...but I think >>> he may be Capricorn lagna. >>> >>> - Jorge >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Branka Bjelajac <brahmanka >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Ooo! >>>> >>>> But Rashi chart will hardly change! >>>> Any way, I didn't know for rectification! >>>> Regards, Branca! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Jorge Angelino < >>>> jorge.angelino wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Branca, >>>>> >>>>> First it has to be rectified. >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Jorge >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Branka Bjelajac < >>>>> brahmanka wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jorge, hi! >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't you see any denger in Obamas chart! >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, Branca! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Jorge Angelino < >>>>>> jorge.angelino wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> My dear Branca, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Keep with your good work! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let us see what we can learn together... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Warmly, Jorge >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Branka Bjelajac < >>>>>>> brahmanka wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nice! >>>>>>>> You just did it on time! I'm translating divisional charts! >>>>>>>> thaks! >>>>>>>> Please bring the light on internet! >>>>>>>> Branca >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Jorge Angelino < >>>>>>>> jorge.angelino wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well done my dear Branca! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Warm Regards, >>>>>>>>> Jorge >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Branka Bjelajac < >>>>>>>>> brahmanka wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OK! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards! Branca! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Dear Jorge, Thanks for sharing this information. Interestingly, Ron Day proposed a Capricorn lagna for Barack Obama already on March 3, 2008 in SAMVA message # 14862, months before a copy of his birth certificate came to light (see below). Best wishes, Thor Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelinosatvargas ; samva ; Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 8:54:51 AM Re: [satvargas] proba Dear List Members, Here are some dates for the rectification work on the precise degree of Mr. Obama´s Capricorn lagna: Intervalo: (19:10: /19:40: ) Eventosâ Date 1. Father died, car accident 24.11.82 2. Admited as Lawyer by IL 17.12.91 3. Marries Michele 03.10.92 4. Dreams From My Father published 18.07.95 5. Mother died, ovarian cancer 07.11.95 6. Driving License 19.08.96 7. Elected to Illinois State Senate 03.01.97 8. First daughter is born 04.07.98 9. Chalenges Bobby Rush, is defeated 21.03.00 10. Wins US Senate primary 16.03.04 11. Delivers keynote address, Democratic Party 27.07.04 12. Wins US Senate seat 02.11.04 13. US Senate 04.01.05 14. Audacity of Hope published 17.10.06 15. Enters race for White House 16.01.07 16. Formal announcement of race for WH 10.02.07 17. Quits his church 31.03.08 Best wishes, Jorge On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: Capricorn lagna - Jorge On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Branka Bjelajac <brahmanka wrote: Message #14862 of 15502 < Prev | Next > Re: Barack Hussein Obama Dear Thor,Thanks for the summary on Obama.When there is questionable and conflicting birth data it is often betterto start from scratch using the available biographical data to determinea possible ascendant.In the case of Barack Obama there is a key event in his life whichshould be seen in the natal chart. This is the family disruption heexperienced at age of 2 yrs. His parents separated and his father movedoverseas. Obama was also in a foreign country between ages 6-10. Helived with his maternal grandparents from age 10 to 18.A birth time giving a Libra ascendant does not show this significantevent . It is an event which shaped the course of his life.The following points suggest that his ascendant should be Capricorn. Ihave started with 14 deg Cp.1. A possible nodal affliction to the 2H(family)2. A weak 4H. Mars Lord of 4H(home and happiness) is in a late degree inthe 8H. This is a placement for addictions and separation from the placeof birth.As a young adult he had to reconcile social perceptions of hismultiracial heritage He wrote that he used alcohol, marijuana, andcocaine during his teenage years to "push questions of who I was out ofmy mind".3. Early loss of father. 12L Ju aspects 9L Me. Parents’ separationhappened in Mo dasa. Mo is afflicted by Ju natally and by Ra in D4.4. The 10L(Ve) placement in 6H is favourable for doctors and lawyers.Obama went to law school and worked as an associate attorney and statelegislator.5. The chart should show prowess at sport. Obama has played competitivebasketball and he described this as one of the constants of his lifebefore the election campaign. He also has a talent at playing the cardgame poker. Venus in 6H gives a love of competition. There are no MTsigns in 3H, 5H or 6H so we need to see where sporting ability is shown.6. Capricorn ascendant can show a strongly ambitious nature since Saturnis exalted in 10H of career. Capricorn natives often desire leadership,political power and practice law and business.RonCosmologer wrote:> Dear friends,>> For those of you may like to check the life events of Barack Obama against hischart, I attach some information from mostly Wikipedia.>> Best wishes,>> Thor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Dear Thor, Ron Day was right. Mr. Obama is really a Capricorn lagna and his birthcertificate seems to be authentic even regarding his TOB. More details will come soon after rectification work. Best wishes, Jorge On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Cosmologer <cosmologer wrote: Dear Jorge, Thanks for sharing this information. Interestingly, Ron Day proposed a Capricorn lagna for Barack Obama already on March 3, 2008 in SAMVA message # 14862, months before a copy of his birth certificate came to light (see below). Best wishes, Thor Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelinosatvargas ; samva ; Saturday, August 2, 2008 8:54:51 AM Re: [satvargas] proba Dear List Members, Here are some dates for the rectification work on the precise degree of Mr. Obama´s Capricorn lagna: Intervalo: (19:10: /19:40: ) Eventosâ Date 1. Father died, car accident 24.11.82 2. Admited as Lawyer by IL 17.12.91 3. Marries Michele 03.10.92 4. Dreams From My Father published 18.07.95 5. Mother died, ovarian cancer 07.11.95 6. Driving License 19.08.96 7. Elected to Illinois State Senate 03.01.97 8. First daughter is born 04.07.98 9. Chalenges Bobby Rush, is defeated 21.03.00 10. Wins US Senate primary 16.03.04 11. Delivers keynote address, Democratic Party 27.07.04 12. Wins US Senate seat 02.11.04 13. US Senate 04.01.05 14. Audacity of Hope published 17.10.06 15. Enters race for White House 16.01.07 16. Formal announcement of race for WH 10.02.07 17. Quits his church 31.03.08 Best wishes, Jorge On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: Capricorn lagna - Jorge On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Branka Bjelajac <brahmanka wrote: Message #14862 of 15502 < Prev | Next > Re: Barack Hussein Obama Dear Thor,Thanks for the summary on Obama.When there is questionable and conflicting birth data it is often betterto start from scratch using the available biographical data to determinea possible ascendant. In the case of Barack Obama there is a key event in his life whichshould be seen in the natal chart. This is the family disruption heexperienced at age of 2 yrs. His parents separated and his father movedoverseas. Obama was also in a foreign country between ages 6-10. He lived with his maternal grandparents from age 10 to 18.A birth time giving a Libra ascendant does not show this significantevent . It is an event which shaped the course of his life.The following points suggest that his ascendant should be Capricorn. I have started with 14 deg Cp.1. A possible nodal affliction to the 2H(family)2. A weak 4H. Mars Lord of 4H(home and happiness) is in a late degree inthe 8H. This is a placement for addictions and separation from the place of birth.As a young adult he had to reconcile social perceptions of hismultiracial heritage He wrote that he used alcohol, marijuana, andcocaine during his teenage years to " push questions of who I was out of my mind " .3. Early loss of father. 12L Ju aspects 9L Me. Parents' separationhappened in Mo dasa. Mo is afflicted by Ju natally and by Ra in D4.4. The 10L(Ve) placement in 6H is favourable for doctors and lawyers. Obama went to law school and worked as an associate attorney and statelegislator.5. The chart should show prowess at sport. Obama has played competitivebasketball and he described this as one of the constants of his life before the election campaign. He also has a talent at playing the cardgame poker. Venus in 6H gives a love of competition. There are no MTsigns in 3H, 5H or 6H so we need to see where sporting ability is shown. 6. Capricorn ascendant can show a strongly ambitious nature since Saturnis exalted in 10H of career. Capricorn natives often desire leadership,political power and practice law and business.Ron Cosmologer wrote:> Dear friends,>> For those of you may like to check the life events of Barack Obama against hischart, I attach some information from mostly Wikipedia.>> Best wishes, >> Thor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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