Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Dear David, Mew, facncoise, Atul and other members, Thank you very much for your interest in this blind chart, since there is a conflict in Time Zone problem, I think we'd better discuss about it after obtaining the correct Time Zone info. However, I am now going to disclose what happen to him on that date: His name was Rolim Amaro and he was a pilot, flight commander and entrepreneur who lost his life while teaching one of his employee how to fly the helicopter. The helicopter crashed and people believed that the trainee is piloting the craft. So, both of them died. I would like to say sorry to our member because of this conflicting Time Zone and I will try to post the other charts without hiccup like this. With Best wishes, Khin. Mary Ellen Wright <avz.9271r wrote: Excuse me please ... I meant to type " Pereira " ... :-) mew , " Mary Ellen Wright " <avz.9271r wrote: > > Dear Khin, David and list members: > > I'm a bit confused on which time zone is correct ... the Astrodienst > website gives a +3:00 W time zone for Pereria Barreto, Brazil which > would result in the Capricorn rising sign, but the time zone +4:00 > would give the Aquarius rising sign assigned to this blind chart > reading ... perhaps I am using the Astrodienst incorrectly? Any help > in understanding this situation would be most appreciated. > > Thank you, > > Mew > > , " David Hawthorne " <david@> wrote: > > > > Dear Khin... > > > > I think the TZ 4 is correct. > > > > David Hawthorne > > > > > > > > On > Behalf > > Of Khin Maung Soe (Numan) > > Sunday, January 06, 2008 7:28 PM > > > > RE: Blind Chart (4) What happen to him on Jul - > 08-2001, > > > > Dear David, > > Thanks, I'm also trying to find out which one is correct. Do you > have any > > information on this? > > Regards, > > > > Khin. > > > > David Hawthorne <david@> wrote: > > Dear Khin.. > > > > I get Timezone 4... > > > > Aquarius rising sign, 11:49 degrees. > > > > David Hawthorne > > > > > > > > On > Behalf > > Of Khin Maung Soe (Numan) > > Sunday, January 06, 2008 10:09 AM > > > > Re: Blind Chart (4) What happen to him on Jul - > 08-2001, > > > > Dear Sujit, Atul and other member, > > My software give the Time zone +4.00. But some software give the > Time Zone > > +3.00. > > There must be some mistake . So, I think we need to confirm on this. > > I am not sure which one is correct. > > Khin. > > > > Sujit <sujit68@> wrote: > > Dear Khin, > > > > are you sure time zone is +4.0 > > > > I am also getting as Atul. > > > > Regards > > Sujit > > ------------------------- > > > > - > > Khin Maung Soe (Numan) > > > > Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:24 PM > > Re: Blind Chart (4) What happen to him on Jul - > 08-2001, > > > > Dear Aul > > I think there might be problem with your latitude, it is South > latitude. > > (most of us are calculating the North Latitude) > > Latitude: 20S38 > > Longitude:51W07 > > Time Zone: +4.0 > > NO DST. > > With Regards, > > > > Khin. > > > > Atul Gupta <atul63f@> wrote: > > Dear Khin > > > > I am getting Capricon Asc rising at 28.06 > > > > rgds > > > > Atul > > On 1/6/08, Khin Maung Soe <kmsoe2001@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear list, > > > This is the another blind chart for who are interested. > > > Please find out what happend to him on 8/7/2001 > > > > > > Birthdate 15/09/1942 > > > Hour 4:00 PM > > > Birth Place Pereira Barreto, Brazil > > > > > > Asc. Aquarius 11.49 > > > > > > Thank you for your participation. > > > > > > Khin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Khin... Timezone four was correct in this case. Rahu and Ketu were on the MEP at the time of the accident, and they were afflicting their natal positions. It was clear there was some tragedy. Transit Rahu was afflicting the first house, indicating the problem was with the native, and transit Ketu was afflicting the seventh house, indicating problems for someone else as well. David Hawthorne On Behalf Of Khin Maung Soe (Numan) Monday, January 07, 2008 9:07 AM Re: Re: Blind Chart (4) What happen to him on Jul -08-2001, (Disclose) Dear David, Mew, facncoise, Atul and other members, Thank you very much for your interest in this blind chart, since there is a conflict in Time Zone problem, I think we'd better discuss about it after obtaining the correct Time Zone info. However, I am now going to disclose what happen to him on that date: His name was Rolim Amaro and he was a pilot, flight commander and entrepreneur who lost his life while teaching one of his employee how to fly the helicopter. The helicopter crashed and people believed that the trainee is piloting the craft. So, both of them died. I would like to say sorry to our member because of this conflicting Time Zone and I will try to post the other charts without hiccup like this. With Best wishes, Khin. Mary Ellen Wright <avz.9271r wrote: Excuse me please ... I meant to type " Pereira " ... :-) mew , " Mary Ellen Wright " <avz.9271r wrote: > > Dear Khin, David and list members: > > I'm a bit confused on which time zone is correct ... the Astrodienst > website gives a +3:00 W time zone for Pereria Barreto, Brazil which > would result in the Capricorn rising sign, but the time zone +4:00 > would give the Aquarius rising sign assigned to this blind chart > reading ... perhaps I am using the Astrodienst incorrectly? Any help > in understanding this situation would be most appreciated. > > Thank you, > > Mew > > , " David Hawthorne " <david@> wrote: > > > > Dear Khin... > > > > I think the TZ 4 is correct. > > > > David Hawthorne > > > > > > > > On > Behalf > > Of Khin Maung Soe (Numan) > > Sunday, January 06, 2008 7:28 PM > > > > RE: Blind Chart (4) What happen to him on Jul - > 08-2001, > > > > Dear David, > > Thanks, I'm also trying to find out which one is correct. Do you > have any > > information on this? > > Regards, > > > > Khin. > > > > David Hawthorne <david@> wrote: > > Dear Khin.. > > > > I get Timezone 4... > > > > Aquarius rising sign, 11:49 degrees. > > > > David Hawthorne > > > > > > > > On > Behalf > > Of Khin Maung Soe (Numan) > > Sunday, January 06, 2008 10:09 AM > > > > Re: Blind Chart (4) What happen to him on Jul - > 08-2001, > > > > Dear Sujit, Atul and other member, > > My software give the Time zone +4.00. But some software give the > Time Zone > > +3.00. > > There must be some mistake . So, I think we need to confirm on this. > > I am not sure which one is correct. > > Khin. > > > > Sujit <sujit68@> wrote: > > Dear Khin, > > > > are you sure time zone is +4.0 > > > > I am also getting as Atul. > > > > Regards > > Sujit > > ------------------------- > > > > - > > Khin Maung Soe (Numan) > > > > Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:24 PM > > Re: Blind Chart (4) What happen to him on Jul - > 08-2001, > > > > Dear Aul > > I think there might be problem with your latitude, it is South > latitude. > > (most of us are calculating the North Latitude) > > Latitude: 20S38 > > Longitude:51W07 > > Time Zone: +4.0 > > NO DST. > > With Regards, > > > > Khin. > > > > Atul Gupta <atul63f@> wrote: > > Dear Khin > > > > I am getting Capricon Asc rising at 28.06 > > > > rgds > > > > Atul > > On 1/6/08, Khin Maung Soe <kmsoe2001@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear list, > > > This is the another blind chart for who are interested. > > > Please find out what happend to him on 8/7/2001 > > > > > > Birthdate 15/09/1942 > > > Hour 4:00 PM > > > Birth Place Pereira Barreto, Brazil > > > > > > Asc. Aquarius 11.49 > > > > > > Thank you for your participation. > > > > > > Khin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear David, I agree with you. I also find that the event is reflecting the Timezone 4. With Regards, Khin. David Hawthorne <david wrote: Dear Khin... Timezone four was correct in this case. Rahu and Ketu were on the MEP at the time of the accident, and they were afflicting their natal positions. It was clear there was some tragedy. Transit Rahu was afflicting the first house, indicating the problem was with the native, and transit Ketu was afflicting the seventh house, indicating problems for someone else as well. David Hawthorne On Behalf Of Khin Maung Soe (Numan) Monday, January 07, 2008 9:07 AM Re: Re: Blind Chart (4) What happen to him on Jul -08-2001, (Disclose) Dear David, Mew, facncoise, Atul and other members, Thank you very much for your interest in this blind chart, since there is a conflict in Time Zone problem, I think we'd better discuss about it after obtaining the correct Time Zone info. However, I am now going to disclose what happen to him on that date: His name was Rolim Amaro and he was a pilot, flight commander and entrepreneur who lost his life while teaching one of his employee how to fly the helicopter. The helicopter crashed and people believed that the trainee is piloting the craft. So, both of them died. I would like to say sorry to our member because of this conflicting Time Zone and I will try to post the other charts without hiccup like this. With Best wishes, Khin. Mary Ellen Wright <avz.9271r wrote: Excuse me please ... I meant to type " Pereira " ... :-) mew , " Mary Ellen Wright " <avz.9271r wrote: > > Dear Khin, David and list members: > > I'm a bit confused on which time zone is correct ... the Astrodienst > website gives a +3:00 W time zone for Pereria Barreto, Brazil which > would result in the Capricorn rising sign, but the time zone +4:00 > would give the Aquarius rising sign assigned to this blind chart > reading ... perhaps I am using the Astrodienst incorrectly? Any help > in understanding this situation would be most appreciated. > > Thank you, > > Mew > > , " David Hawthorne " <david@> wrote: > > > > Dear Khin... > > > > I think the TZ 4 is correct. > > > > David Hawthorne > > > > > > > > On > Behalf > > Of Khin Maung Soe (Numan) > > Sunday, January 06, 2008 7:28 PM > > > > RE: Blind Chart (4) What happen to him on Jul - > 08-2001, > > > > Dear David, > > Thanks, I'm also trying to find out which one is correct. Do you > have any > > information on this? > > Regards, > > > > Khin. > > > > David Hawthorne <david@> wrote: > > Dear Khin.. > > > > I get Timezone 4... > > > > Aquarius rising sign, 11:49 degrees. > > > > David Hawthorne > > > > > > > > On > Behalf > > Of Khin Maung Soe (Numan) > > Sunday, January 06, 2008 10:09 AM > > > > Re: Blind Chart (4) What happen to him on Jul - > 08-2001, > > > > Dear Sujit, Atul and other member, > > My software give the Time zone +4.00. But some software give the > Time Zone > > +3.00. > > There must be some mistake . So, I think we need to confirm on this. > > I am not sure which one is correct. > > Khin. > > > > Sujit <sujit68@> wrote: > > Dear Khin, > > > > are you sure time zone is +4.0 > > > > I am also getting as Atul. > > > > Regards > > Sujit > > ------------------------- > > > > - > > Khin Maung Soe (Numan) > > > > Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:24 PM > > Re: Blind Chart (4) What happen to him on Jul - > 08-2001, > > > > Dear Aul > > I think there might be problem with your latitude, it is South > latitude. > > (most of us are calculating the North Latitude) > > Latitude: 20S38 > > Longitude:51W07 > > Time Zone: +4.0 > > NO DST. > > With Regards, > > > > Khin. > > > > Atul Gupta <atul63f@> wrote: > > Dear Khin > > > > I am getting Capricon Asc rising at 28.06 > > > > rgds > > > > Atul > > On 1/6/08, Khin Maung Soe <kmsoe2001@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear list, > > > This is the another blind chart for who are interested. > > > Please find out what happend to him on 8/7/2001 > > > > > > Birthdate 15/09/1942 > > > Hour 4:00 PM > > > Birth Place Pereira Barreto, Brazil > > > > > > Asc. Aquarius 11.49 > > > > > > Thank you for your participation. > > > > > > Khin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Dear Friends, Timezone is UTC-3 (and it has DST, which means UTC-2DT ) as you can see in http://www.fallingrain.com/world/BR/27/Pereira_Barreto.html Ascendant in 28:07 Capricorn, supposing TOB is correct. At the time of the accident he was in Ve/Me/Ve. Venus signifies air transport (accidents, if afflicted), it is badly placed and afflicted in D1 and D9, it is MMP in D8 and D6 and it is square its natal position and square the natal nodes in transit. Mercury is badly placed and afflicted by Jupiter in transit. Transit retrograde Mars (very close to Earth) is exactly aspecting transit badly placed Sun. Please note that Mars is FMP in D8and MMP in D9. Best wishes, Jorge On 1/8/08, Khin Maung Soe (Numan) <kmsoe2001 wrote: > > Dear David, > I agree with you. I also find that the event is reflecting the Timezone 4. > With Regards, > Khin. > > David Hawthorne <david wrote: > Dear Khin... > > Timezone four was correct in this case. > > Rahu and Ketu were on the MEP at the time of the accident, and they were > afflicting their natal positions. > > It was clear there was some tragedy. > > Transit Rahu was afflicting the first house, indicating the problem was > with > the native, and transit Ketu was afflicting the seventh house, indicating > problems for someone else as well. > > David Hawthorne > > > On Behalf > Of Khin Maung Soe (Numan) > Monday, January 07, 2008 9:07 AM > > Re: Re: Blind Chart (4) What happen to him on Jul > -08-2001, (Disclose) > > Dear David, Mew, facncoise, Atul and other members, > Thank you very much for your interest in this blind chart, since there is > a conflict in Time Zone problem, I think we'd better discuss about it > after > obtaining the correct Time Zone info. > However, I am now going to disclose what happen to him on that date: > His name was Rolim Amaro and he was a pilot, flight commander and > entrepreneur who lost his life while teaching one of his employee how to > fly > the helicopter. The helicopter crashed and people believed that the > trainee > is piloting the craft. So, both of them died. > I would like to say sorry to our member because of this conflicting Time > Zone and I will try to post the other charts without hiccup like this. > With Best wishes, > Khin. > > Mary Ellen Wright <avz.9271r wrote: > Excuse me please ... I meant to type " Pereira " ... :-) mew > > , " Mary Ellen Wright " <avz.9271r > wrote: > > > > Dear Khin, David and list members: > > > > I'm a bit confused on which time zone is correct ... the > Astrodienst > > website gives a +3:00 W time zone for Pereria Barreto, Brazil which > > would result in the Capricorn rising sign, but the time zone +4:00 > > would give the Aquarius rising sign assigned to this blind chart > > reading ... perhaps I am using the Astrodienst incorrectly? Any > help > > in understanding this situation would be most appreciated. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Mew > > > > , " David Hawthorne " <david@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Khin... > > > > > > I think the TZ 4 is correct. > > > > > > David Hawthorne > > > > > > > > > > > > > On > > Behalf > > > Of Khin Maung Soe (Numan) > > > Sunday, January 06, 2008 7:28 PM > > > > > > RE: Blind Chart (4) What happen to him on > Jul - > > 08-2001, > > > > > > Dear David, > > > Thanks, I'm also trying to find out which one is correct. Do > you > > have any > > > information on this? > > > Regards, > > > > > > Khin. > > > > > > David Hawthorne <david@> wrote: > > > Dear Khin.. > > > > > > I get Timezone 4... > > > > > > Aquarius rising sign, 11:49 degrees. > > > > > > David Hawthorne > > > > > > > > > > > > > On > > Behalf > > > Of Khin Maung Soe (Numan) > > > Sunday, January 06, 2008 10:09 AM > > > > > > Re: Blind Chart (4) What happen to him on > Jul - > > 08-2001, > > > > > > Dear Sujit, Atul and other member, > > > My software give the Time zone +4.00. But some software give the > > Time Zone > > > +3.00. > > > There must be some mistake . So, I think we need to confirm on > this. > > > I am not sure which one is correct. > > > Khin. > > > > > > Sujit <sujit68@> wrote: > > > Dear Khin, > > > > > > are you sure time zone is +4.0 > > > > > > I am also getting as Atul. > > > > > > Regards > > > Sujit > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > - > > > Khin Maung Soe (Numan) > > > > > > Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:24 PM > > > Re: Blind Chart (4) What happen to him on > Jul - > > 08-2001, > > > > > > Dear Aul > > > I think there might be problem with your latitude, it is South > > latitude. > > > (most of us are calculating the North Latitude) > > > Latitude: 20S38 > > > Longitude:51W07 > > > Time Zone: +4.0 > > > NO DST. > > > With Regards, > > > > > > Khin. > > > > > > Atul Gupta <atul63f@> wrote: > > > Dear Khin > > > > > > I am getting Capricon Asc rising at 28.06 > > > > > > rgds > > > > > > Atul > > > On 1/6/08, Khin Maung Soe <kmsoe2001@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear list, > > > > This is the another blind chart for who are interested. > > > > Please find out what happend to him on 8/7/2001 > > > > > > > > Birthdate 15/09/1942 > > > > Hour 4:00 PM > > > > Birth Place Pereira Barreto, Brazil > > > > > > > > Asc. Aquarius 11.49 > > > > > > > > Thank you for your participation. > > > > > > > > Khin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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