Guest guest Posted December 23, 2000 Report Share Posted December 23, 2000 Dear Sylvia, The sight is counted as counterclockwise, for north indian style chart, and clockwise for south Indian style chart. Most problebly you are refering north Indian style, so it should be counter clockwise. krushna >sylvia linzner <sylvia261 > > > aspects >Sat, 23 Dec 2000 09:10:10 -0800 > >Dear Krushna, >When we count the aspects between planets do we count clockwise and >counterclockwise? if we count counterclockwise Mars is aspecting the 7th >house in Ron's marriage house B >Thank You, >Sylvia >______________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2001 Report Share Posted September 27, 2001 Dear Sanjay, Welcome to the group again. The points in 11 gives the overall condition in life. It can not indicate in terms of quantity. It is relative with other houses. The significator will give the results as per their points in their sub. The overall life will be happy, and the person with 31 points in 11th will get good return of the work he do. krushna , " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > I have some time these days so I come again with some questions. I hope you > will forgive my absence from the list and indulge me with some answers. > > For an Aquarius ascendant, we have 31 points for the 11th house. The DBCE > points for this are in increasing order. This generally indicates that the > person has good income and that the income will rise in life. > > However, we also have Jupiter with 5 points in the 7th house and Venus with > 6 points in the 5th house. Jupiter is lord of 11 but aspects 11 with malefic > sight. Venus also aspects 11th with malefic sight. There is no other sight > on the 11th house. > > How would one interpret it? Both Jupiter and Venus are natural benefics so I > think these will not affect the income. However, it might be that the income > would get used up by the activities related to the significations of Jupiter > and Venus. > > Woul dthis be the right way to interpret such an influence? If not, could > you please point to the right interpretation? > > kind regards > Sanjay Jaggia > > > > _______ > > Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2001 Report Share Posted September 28, 2001 Respected Krushnaji, Thank you for your replies. You were being missed. Can you also interpret the aspects of Venus and Jupiter on 11th house? Kind regards Sanjay - <krushanain Friday, September 28, 2001 2:47 AM Re: aspects Dear Sanjay, Welcome to the group again. The points in 11 gives the overall condition in life. It can not indicate in terms of quantity. It is relative with other houses. The significator will give the results as per their points in their sub. The overall life will be happy, and the person with 31 points in 11th will get good return of the work he do. krushna , " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > I have some time these days so I come again with some questions. I hope you > will forgive my absence from the list and indulge me with some answers. > > For an Aquarius ascendant, we have 31 points for the 11th house. The DBCE > points for this are in increasing order. This generally indicates that the > person has good income and that the income will rise in life. > > However, we also have Jupiter with 5 points in the 7th house and Venus with > 6 points in the 5th house. Jupiter is lord of 11 but aspects 11 with malefic > sight. Venus also aspects 11th with malefic sight. There is no other sight > on the 11th house. > > How would one interpret it? Both Jupiter and Venus are natural benefics so I > think these will not affect the income. However, it might be that the income > would get used up by the activities related to the significations of Jupiter > and Venus. > > Woul dthis be the right way to interpret such an influence? If not, could > you please point to the right interpretation? > > kind regards > Sanjay Jaggia > > > > _______ > > Get your free @ address at _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Dear Kaimal, Any planet that has more points and by more points it means more than 4 bindus (5,6,7,8 bindus) then they cast malefic dristi or equal strength. So say if Sun had 5 bindus in 12th house then it would aspect 6th house with -5 bindus. If Shani had 3 bindus then it would aspect 3 houses it aspects with 5 bindus. Similarly Guru when its with 5 bindus as an example, it will aspect 5,7th and 9th house with -5 bindus. For any planets exaltation sign the 7th sign from that is where it debilitates. Similarly any planet that is with more points (we call it uncha or exalted if it has more points) then the places it aspects it will send malefic dristi. Here we are being very precice as we are judging this aspect with numerical value. Another analogy that was given was that when one person has a lot of support (more points) then that person looks down (dristi) upon others (malefic aspect). At the same time, planets with low points send dristi with high points and this is applicable to all planets too. For example if Mars has 3 bindus then it will cast dristi of +5 to 4th, 8th and 7th house from itself. Similarly for all other planets. Hope that clarifies. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , SRCKaimal <srckaimal@a...> wrote: > Dear List, > While reading the lesson 2 I came across this statement. > " An aspect of Jupiter with more points is always malefic. The same rule applies to all planets " > > > > It is not clear to me.Can the learned memberes help? > > Regards > > Kaimal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 Hello Ash, Here is the chart from Lesson1 and I am a bit confused by the concept of aspects.Here as you can see Sun is in the 12 house and he gives 5 benefic points and since he aspects the 6th house should he not give 3 points to the 6th house instead of the 4 given in the chart?Same is the case with all other planets too.Moon is in 7th where he gives 5 points and aspects the 1st house and there also he gives 5 points. Can you please clarify and clear my lack of understanding? Thank you for your patience. Regards Kaimal House ® Planet ¯ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 tot. SUN 4 1 4 5 3 4 3 4 5 6 4 5 48 MOON 5 5 4 3 5 4 5 3 6 5 1 3 49 MARS 4 3 3 3 3 4 1 1 5 6 2 4 39 MERCURY 5 5 3 5 3 4 2 6 4 7 5 5 54 JUPITER 6 3 6 4 5 4 5 5 6 5 2 5 56 VENUS 4 5 3 3 5 3 5 5 3 6 7 3 52 SATURN 4 2 2 3 4 2 4 3 5 5 3 2 39 TOTAL 32 24 25 26 28 25 25 27 34 40 24 27 337 m still a bit confused by these aspects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 Hi ash I getting confuesed here... I will ask question below in comment in CAPS.. , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Kaimal, > > Any planet that has more points and by more points it means more than > 4 bindus (5,6,7,8 bindus) then they cast malefic dristi or equal > strength. > > So say if Sun had 5 bindus in 12th house then it would aspect 6th > house with -5 bindus. > IF THIS IS TRUE THEN > If Shani had 3 bindus then it would aspect 3 houses it aspects with 5 > bindus. WHY SAT ASPECTS WITH 5 BINDUS AND NOT 3. EITHER SAT SHOULD ASPECT -3 POINTS FOR 3 HOUSES WHICH IT ASPECTS OR IN ABOVE SUN SHOULD ASPECT + 3 POINTS TO HOUSE WHICH ASPECTS.. WHY FOR SUN -5 AND SAT WITH +5. THIS PART IS CONFUSING? SAT IF HAS 3 POINTS HE CAN HAVE 5 BENIFIC POINTS AND -3 MALEFIC POINTS FOR HOUSE WHICH ASPECTS... SO WHAT IS CORRECT? CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN.. REGARDS KPK > > Similarly Guru when its with 5 bindus as an example, it will aspect > 5,7th and 9th house with -5 bindus. > > For any planets exaltation sign the 7th sign from that is where it > debilitates. Similarly any planet that is with more points (we call > it uncha or exalted if it has more points) then the places it aspects > it will send malefic dristi. Here we are being very precice as we > are judging this aspect with numerical value. > > Another analogy that was given was that when one person has a lot of > support (more points) then that person looks down (dristi) upon > others (malefic aspect). > > At the same time, planets with low points send dristi with high > points and this is applicable to all planets too. For example if > Mars has 3 bindus then it will cast dristi of +5 to 4th, 8th and 7th > house from itself. Similarly for all other planets. > > > Hope that clarifies. > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , SRCKaimal > <srckaimal@a...> wrote: > > Dear List, > > While reading the lesson 2 I came across this statement. > > " An aspect of Jupiter with more points is always malefic. The same > rule applies to all planets " > > > > > > > > It is not clear to me.Can the learned memberes help? > > > > Regards > > > > Kaimal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 Dear KP, Q) Your question on why Sat with 3 bindus aspects with 5 bindus and not 3 bindus. A) If you study keenly a chart and planets you will find that sign of exaltation of a planet and in its 7th from it lies its debilitaition. So in our system we consider planets with low points i.e. < 4 as " debilitated " and planets with more points > 4 points as exalted. If a planet is " exalted " then it will make the 7th sign " debilitated " . In our system think if a planet has 8 bindus then it will cast -8 bindus to the house it aspects. Similarly lets study the contra. 7th sign from a planets debilitation sign is its exaltation. So here in our system it means planets with less than 4 bindus we consider it as debilitated but at the same time its debilitated for the house it is in but at same time it will send its beneficance to the 7th from it. So if say Saturn has 3 bindus (debiliteted) then it will cast (8 - 3 = 5 bindus) to 7th, 3rd and 10th from it. Another analogy would be 1) A planet who has a lot of support will look down upon (dristi) with equal strength. 2) Similarly a planet who is fallen or has less than 4 bindus means it has (8 - fallen bindus) and he will look up and try to up the house it aspects with those many bindus. I hope its clear now... Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " kpkanitkar " <kpkanitkar> wrote: > > Hi ash > > I getting confuesed here... I will ask question below in comment in > CAPS.. > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Kaimal, > > > > Any planet that has more points and by more points it means more > than > > 4 bindus (5,6,7,8 bindus) then they cast malefic dristi or equal > > strength. > > > > So say if Sun had 5 bindus in 12th house then it would aspect 6th > > house with -5 bindus. > > > > IF THIS IS TRUE THEN > > > If Shani had 3 bindus then it would aspect 3 houses it aspects > with 5 > > bindus. > > WHY SAT ASPECTS WITH 5 BINDUS AND NOT 3. EITHER SAT SHOULD ASPECT - 3 > POINTS FOR 3 HOUSES WHICH IT ASPECTS OR IN ABOVE SUN SHOULD ASPECT + > 3 POINTS TO HOUSE WHICH ASPECTS.. WHY FOR SUN -5 AND SAT WITH +5. > THIS PART IS CONFUSING? > > > SAT IF HAS 3 POINTS HE CAN HAVE 5 BENIFIC POINTS AND -3 MALEFIC > POINTS FOR HOUSE WHICH ASPECTS... SO WHAT IS CORRECT? > CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN.. > > > > REGARDS > KPK > > > > Similarly Guru when its with 5 bindus as an example, it will > aspect > > 5,7th and 9th house with -5 bindus. > > > > For any planets exaltation sign the 7th sign from that is where it > > debilitates. Similarly any planet that is with more points (we > call > > it uncha or exalted if it has more points) then the places it > aspects > > it will send malefic dristi. Here we are being very precice as we > > are judging this aspect with numerical value. > > > > Another analogy that was given was that when one person has a lot > of > > support (more points) then that person looks down (dristi) upon > > others (malefic aspect). > > > > At the same time, planets with low points send dristi with high > > points and this is applicable to all planets too. For example if > > Mars has 3 bindus then it will cast dristi of +5 to 4th, 8th and > 7th > > house from itself. Similarly for all other planets. > > > > > > Hope that clarifies. > > > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , SRCKaimal > > <srckaimal@a...> wrote: > > > Dear List, > > > While reading the lesson 2 I came across this statement. > > > " An aspect of Jupiter with more points is always malefic. The > same > > rule applies to all planets " > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not clear to me.Can the learned memberes help? > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Kaimal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 Dear Ash, Thanks for the detailed mail.I have read upto lesson 7 and going over them again and it is fascinating.But it is tough from lesson 4 and the progress is slow as you can see from my mail. Regards Kaimal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Dear Kaimal, I wrote a detailed message to you and again acted up and lost the whole mail. This chart that you see here is Sarvashtakvarga Chart. This chart gives the total strength of planets viewed from 8 different angles i.e. lagna and 7 other planets. In order to come to the SarvaAshtakvarg chart you have to go through the following steps. 1) Cast the chart. 2) Study the placements. 3) Then distribute the points as per BAV given by Sage Varharamira for lagna and 7 grahas. upto here what have you done. You have taken each planet and have studeied it from 8 different view points as you get 8 diffedrent BAV tables. What is the meaning of that distributing these poitns. It means that you have considered relative positioning of planets from each other and looking at it from 8 different view points. In that way you have considered all Yogs that planets make w.r.t. relative positioning. I think you have convered all kinds of Yogs along with their contras that each planet makes with the other. 4) Now moving forward next step is to total each column for each of the 7 planets and grahs. You should get 12 columns, 1 for each house. and 1 row for each planet and lagna in total 8. 5) Then you organize and put it all to gether in to the table you have given below and its called the Sarvashatakvarga table. 6) After doing that highlight the house each planet is in. The correspoinding bindus is the bindu stregth of the planet for the house it is placed in. Like here Sun in 12th house is getting 5 bindus. 7) Here what does it mean for Sun to have 5 bindus. Here in Suns BAV lagna and 7 planets have distributed its 48 points based on relative positioning of Sun w.r.t. lagna, sun, moon, mars, mercury, jupiter, venus, saturn so here its telling us that Sun is making Good Yog with 5 of the 8. So it means that Sun is quite well placed. In standard books you can see statements like If Sun is placed in 12th from such and such planet or in 12th from lagna it means such and such of Moon in kenrdra from Guru then its called Gaj kesari yog planets in 12th from Moon or 2nd from moon anapha and sunapaha yog etc etc.... here planet placement yogs are given or from a sign such things are considered automatically and not only from lagna or moon or any 1 planet but from all 8. I found that so cool. Atleast it saved me the trouble of learning each yog with names and some yogs dont even have names like for example Guru and moon in tries (atleast I do not know if there is a name for this yog). But its a favourable yog. That is automaitically considered if u study the BAV of Guru. So when you actually arrive that that number or bindu of 5 for sun in 12th house basically you have done a lot of things unknowingly. 8) Upto here we are just finding strength of planets for each house from 8 angles. We total them up into the Table that you gave. i.e. The Sarvashtakavarga table. 9) Now that is the base from which we start to build on. 10) What I mean in point 9 is that you still have to cover 4:10 relationships, make adjustment for 12th lord from B, 6th lord, aspects, give special status to lords of D and E by adding bindus etc etc for each house. That part is the Worksheet. 11) It is in Worksheet that you start to consider dristis etc which is the next step after SAV. 12) In the worksheet is when you get the final strength of each planet for each and every house. Very good questions. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , SRCKaimal <srckaimal@a...> wrote: > Hello Ash, > Here is the chart from Lesson1 and I am a bit confused by the concept of aspects.Here as you can see Sun is in the 12 house and he gives 5 benefic points and since he aspects the 6th house should he not give 3 points to the 6th house instead of the 4 given in the chart?Same is the case with all other planets too.Moon is in 7th where he gives 5 points and aspects the 1st house and there also he gives 5 points. > Can you please clarify and clear my lack of understanding? > Thank you for your patience. > Regards > Kaimal > > > > > > House ® > > Planet ¯ > 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 6 > 7 > 8 > 9 > 10 > 11 > 12 > tot. > > SUN > 4 > 1 > 4 > 5 > 3 > 4 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 6 > 4 > 5 > 48 > > MOON > 5 > 5 > 4 > 3 > 5 > 4 > 5 > 3 > 6 > 5 > 1 > 3 > 49 > > MARS > 4 > 3 > 3 > 3 > 3 > 4 > 1 > 1 > 5 > 6 > 2 > 4 > 39 > > MERCURY > 5 > 5 > 3 > 5 > 3 > 4 > 2 > 6 > 4 > 7 > 5 > 5 > 54 > > JUPITER > 6 > 3 > 6 > 4 > 5 > 4 > 5 > 5 > 6 > 5 > 2 > 5 > 56 > > VENUS > 4 > 5 > 3 > 3 > 5 > 3 > 5 > 5 > 3 > 6 > 7 > 3 > 52 > > SATURN > 4 > 2 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 2 > 4 > 3 > 5 > 5 > 3 > 2 > 39 > > TOTAL > 32 > 24 > 25 > 26 > 28 > 25 > 25 > 27 > 34 > 40 > 24 > 27 > 337 > > > m still a bit confused by these aspects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Hello ash I got it what u said. Thanks for clarification Regards KPK , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear KP, > > Q) Your question on why Sat with 3 bindus aspects with 5 bindus and > not 3 bindus. > > A) If you study keenly a chart and planets you will find that sign of > exaltation of a planet and in its 7th from it lies its debilitaition. > > So in our system we consider planets with low points i.e. < 4 > as " debilitated " and planets with more points > 4 points as exalted. > > If a planet is " exalted " then it will make the 7th > sign " debilitated " . > > In our system think if a planet has 8 bindus then it will cast -8 > bindus to the house it aspects. > > Similarly lets study the contra. 7th sign from a planets > debilitation sign is its exaltation. > > So here in our system it means planets with less than 4 bindus we > consider it as debilitated but at the same time its debilitated for > the house it is in but at same time it will send its beneficance to > the 7th from it. > > So if say Saturn has 3 bindus (debiliteted) then it will cast (8 - 3 > = 5 bindus) to 7th, 3rd and 10th from it. > > Another analogy would be > > 1) A planet who has a lot of support will look down upon (dristi) > with equal strength. > > 2) Similarly a planet who is fallen or has less than 4 bindus means > it has (8 - fallen bindus) and he will look up and try to up the > house it aspects with those many bindus. > > I hope its clear now... > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > , " kpkanitkar " > <kpkanitkar> wrote: > > > > Hi ash > > > > I getting confuesed here... I will ask question below in comment in > > CAPS.. > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > Dear Kaimal, > > > > > > Any planet that has more points and by more points it means more > > than > > > 4 bindus (5,6,7,8 bindus) then they cast malefic dristi or equal > > > strength. > > > > > > So say if Sun had 5 bindus in 12th house then it would aspect 6th > > > house with -5 bindus. > > > > > > > IF THIS IS TRUE THEN > > > > > If Shani had 3 bindus then it would aspect 3 houses it aspects > > with 5 > > > bindus. > > > > WHY SAT ASPECTS WITH 5 BINDUS AND NOT 3. EITHER SAT SHOULD ASPECT - > 3 > > POINTS FOR 3 HOUSES WHICH IT ASPECTS OR IN ABOVE SUN SHOULD ASPECT > + > > 3 POINTS TO HOUSE WHICH ASPECTS.. WHY FOR SUN -5 AND SAT WITH +5. > > THIS PART IS CONFUSING? > > > > > > SAT IF HAS 3 POINTS HE CAN HAVE 5 BENIFIC POINTS AND -3 MALEFIC > > POINTS FOR HOUSE WHICH ASPECTS... SO WHAT IS CORRECT? > > CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN.. > > > > > > > > REGARDS > > KPK > > > > > > Similarly Guru when its with 5 bindus as an example, it will > > aspect > > > 5,7th and 9th house with -5 bindus. > > > > > > For any planets exaltation sign the 7th sign from that is where > it > > > debilitates. Similarly any planet that is with more points (we > > call > > > it uncha or exalted if it has more points) then the places it > > aspects > > > it will send malefic dristi. Here we are being very precice as > we > > > are judging this aspect with numerical value. > > > > > > Another analogy that was given was that when one person has a lot > > of > > > support (more points) then that person looks down (dristi) upon > > > others (malefic aspect). > > > > > > At the same time, planets with low points send dristi with high > > > points and this is applicable to all planets too. For example if > > > Mars has 3 bindus then it will cast dristi of +5 to 4th, 8th and > > 7th > > > house from itself. Similarly for all other planets. > > > > > > > > > Hope that clarifies. > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , SRCKaimal > > > <srckaimal@a...> wrote: > > > > Dear List, > > > > While reading the lesson 2 I came across this statement. > > > > " An aspect of Jupiter with more points is always malefic. The > > same > > > rule applies to all planets " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not clear to me.Can the learned memberes help? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Kaimal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Dear Rangarajan, 1. In p 113 of KP Reader I, Guruji KSK says " The Western system of aspects must be studied and used so as to arrive at accurate predictions. There is no shame in including the Western system where they have advanced and are correct. " 2. However, Hindu System aspect and conjunction are common in example charts of KP Readers as some are mentioned below; KP Reader III, 1984, part 2 --- p 7 --- Mars aspecting Lagna and Venus conjunct Ketu; p 133 Mercury afflicted by Saturn; p 135 Jupiter aspecting Rahu; p 136 Mars conjunct Ketu; p 139 Conjunction of Sun & Rahu and Jupiter & Moon; p 142 Moon being afflicted by Saturn within relative postion of 22 ½ degree even though not in the same sign; p 171 Jupiter & Mars aspecting Moon; p 173 Saturn & Jupiter aspecting Rahu; p 205 Saturn aspecting Ketu and Moon, Mercury & Rahu conjunction; Reader V --- p 210 Mercury conjunct Rahu; p 233 Mars comjunct Ketu Reader VI ---p p 165 Rahu conjunct Venus; p 186 Rahu conjunct Venus; p 188 Moon & Mercuryaspecting Rahu; p 200 Moon conjunct Saturn; 3. Any example chart in KP Readers using Western aspect or conjunction is highly appreciated. Thanks and best regards, tw , " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy " <ranga@m...> wrote: > > Kanak, > Isn't sign-to-sign aspect less common in KP? I have read that KSK does > consider sign-based aspects (as in Traditional system) in some places, > (e.g. to consider the influence of Saturn in the context of delay in > marriage, and the nodes being agents of planets they are conjoined > with in the same sign), but I thought this wasn't the norm. He > appeared to stress western aspects. > > In my conversation with some senior KP astrologers, I have heard that > we should consider both sign-to-sign and western aspects. One majority > opinion is to use the rule " Planets A and B are conjoined if they are > in the same sign " . > > I am not clear about the aspects part of KP. Is this a topic worthy of > greater focus in this group? Stalwarts, please help. > > Regards, > Rangarajan > > , " Kanakkumar Bosmia " > <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Could you please let me know where I can buy KP Readers 1 to 6 from? --- tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Rangarajan, > > 1. In p 113 of KP Reader I, Guruji KSK says > " The Western > system of aspects must be studied and used so as to > arrive at > accurate predictions. There is no shame in including > the Western > system where they have advanced and are correct. " > > 2. However, Hindu System aspect and > conjunction are common in > example charts of KP Readers as some are mentioned > below; > > KP Reader III, 1984, part 2 --- > p 7 --- Mars aspecting Lagna and Venus conjunct > Ketu; > p 133 Mercury afflicted by Saturn; > p 135 Jupiter aspecting Rahu; > p 136 Mars conjunct Ketu; > p 139 Conjunction of Sun & Rahu and Jupiter & Moon; > p 142 Moon being afflicted by Saturn within relative > postion of 22 ½ > degree even though not in the same sign; > p 171 Jupiter & Mars aspecting Moon; > p 173 Saturn & Jupiter aspecting Rahu; > p 205 Saturn aspecting Ketu and Moon, Mercury & Rahu > conjunction; > > > Reader V --- > p 210 Mercury conjunct Rahu; > p 233 Mars comjunct Ketu > > > Reader VI ---p > p 165 Rahu conjunct Venus; > p 186 Rahu conjunct Venus; > p 188 Moon & Mercuryaspecting Rahu; > p 200 Moon conjunct Saturn; > > > 3. Any example chart in KP Readers using Western > aspect or > conjunction is highly appreciated. > > Thanks and best regards, > > tw > > > , " Rangarajan > Krishnamoorthy " > <ranga@m...> wrote: > > > > Kanak, > > Isn't sign-to-sign aspect less common in KP? I > have read that KSK > does > > consider sign-based aspects (as in Traditional > system) in some > places, > > (e.g. to consider the influence of Saturn in the > context of delay in > > marriage, and the nodes being agents of planets > they are conjoined > > with in the same sign), but I thought this wasn't > the norm. He > > appeared to stress western aspects. > > > > In my conversation with some senior KP > astrologers, I have heard > that > > we should consider both sign-to-sign and western > aspects. One > majority > > opinion is to use the rule " Planets A and B are > conjoined if they > are > > in the same sign " . > > > > I am not clear about the aspects part of KP. Is > this a topic worthy > of > > greater focus in this group? Stalwarts, please > help. > > > > Regards, > > Rangarajan > > > > , " Kanakkumar > Bosmia " > > <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 It is worth discussion, if Members study KSK Books, and also the Examples solved by HIM in the books or articles and find out what he really used. In order of Signification, aspects are the last and many do not take this into consideration . I rarely use aspects as one of the significators good luck --- Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga wrote: > > > Kanak, > Isn't sign-to-sign aspect less common in KP? I have read that KSK does > consider sign-based aspects (as in Traditional system) in some places, > (e.g. to consider the influence of Saturn in the context of delay in > marriage, and the nodes being agents of planets they are conjoined > with in the same sign), but I thought this wasn't the norm. He > appeared to stress western aspects. > > In my conversation with some senior KP astrologers, I have heard that > we should consider both sign-to-sign and western aspects. One majority > opinion is to use the rule " Planets A and B are conjoined if they are > in the same sign " . > > I am not clear about the aspects part of KP. Is this a topic worthy of > greater focus in this group? Stalwarts, please help. > > Regards, > Rangarajan > > , " Kanakkumar Bosmia " > <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Dear tw853 Thanks for the posting, you have given it, before I suggested it. Mr K.Kuppuganapathy insists on Westernern Aspects, and limited to 180 deg only, i.e in zodiac order only. I had to specifically programme this for him good luck --- tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > Dear Rangarajan, > > 1. In p 113 of KP Reader I, Guruji KSK says " The Western > system of aspects must be studied and used so as to arrive at > accurate predictions. There is no shame in including the Western > system where they have advanced and are correct. " > > 2. However, Hindu System aspect and conjunction are common in > example charts of KP Readers as some are mentioned below; > > KP Reader III, 1984, part 2 --- > p 7 --- Mars aspecting Lagna and Venus conjunct Ketu; > p 133 Mercury afflicted by Saturn; > p 135 Jupiter aspecting Rahu; > p 136 Mars conjunct Ketu; > p 139 Conjunction of Sun & Rahu and Jupiter & Moon; > p 142 Moon being afflicted by Saturn within relative postion of 22 ½ > degree even though not in the same sign; > p 171 Jupiter & Mars aspecting Moon; > p 173 Saturn & Jupiter aspecting Rahu; > p 205 Saturn aspecting Ketu and Moon, Mercury & Rahu conjunction; > > > Reader V --- > p 210 Mercury conjunct Rahu; > p 233 Mars comjunct Ketu > > > Reader VI ---p > p 165 Rahu conjunct Venus; > p 186 Rahu conjunct Venus; > p 188 Moon & Mercuryaspecting Rahu; > p 200 Moon conjunct Saturn; > > > 3. Any example chart in KP Readers using Western aspect or > conjunction is highly appreciated. > > Thanks and best regards, > > tw > > > , " Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy " > <ranga@m...> wrote: > > > > Kanak, > > Isn't sign-to-sign aspect less common in KP? I have read that KSK > does > > consider sign-based aspects (as in Traditional system) in some > places, > > (e.g. to consider the influence of Saturn in the context of delay in > > marriage, and the nodes being agents of planets they are conjoined > > with in the same sign), but I thought this wasn't the norm. He > > appeared to stress western aspects. > > > > In my conversation with some senior KP astrologers, I have heard > that > > we should consider both sign-to-sign and western aspects. One > majority > > opinion is to use the rule " Planets A and B are conjoined if they > are > > in the same sign " . > > > > I am not clear about the aspects part of KP. Is this a topic worthy > of > > greater focus in this group? Stalwarts, please help. > > > > Regards, > > Rangarajan > > > > , " Kanakkumar Bosmia " > > <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 http://www.vedicweb.com/c55.html All the Best, Sandy Crowther http://www.jupitersweb.com Sunil Joshi [suniljoshi80] Sunday, February 13, 2005 11:38 PM Re: Re: Aspects Could you please let me know where I can buy KP Readers 1 to 6 from? --- tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > Dear Rangarajan, > > 1. In p 113 of KP Reader I, Guruji KSK says > " The Western > system of aspects must be studied and used so as to > arrive at > accurate predictions. There is no shame in including > the Western > system where they have advanced and are correct. " > > 2. However, Hindu System aspect and > conjunction are common in > example charts of KP Readers as some are mentioned > below; > > KP Reader III, 1984, part 2 --- > p 7 --- Mars aspecting Lagna and Venus conjunct > Ketu; > p 133 Mercury afflicted by Saturn; > p 135 Jupiter aspecting Rahu; > p 136 Mars conjunct Ketu; > p 139 Conjunction of Sun & Rahu and Jupiter & Moon; > p 142 Moon being afflicted by Saturn within relative > postion of 22 ½ > degree even though not in the same sign; > p 171 Jupiter & Mars aspecting Moon; > p 173 Saturn & Jupiter aspecting Rahu; > p 205 Saturn aspecting Ketu and Moon, Mercury & Rahu > conjunction; > > > Reader V --- > p 210 Mercury conjunct Rahu; > p 233 Mars comjunct Ketu > > > Reader VI ---p > p 165 Rahu conjunct Venus; > p 186 Rahu conjunct Venus; > p 188 Moon & Mercuryaspecting Rahu; > p 200 Moon conjunct Saturn; > > > 3. Any example chart in KP Readers using Western > aspect or > conjunction is highly appreciated. > > Thanks and best regards, > > tw > > > , " Rangarajan > Krishnamoorthy " > <ranga@m...> wrote: > > > > Kanak, > > Isn't sign-to-sign aspect less common in KP? I > have read that KSK > does > > consider sign-based aspects (as in Traditional > system) in some > places, > > (e.g. to consider the influence of Saturn in the > context of delay in > > marriage, and the nodes being agents of planets > they are conjoined > > with in the same sign), but I thought this wasn't > the norm. He > > appeared to stress western aspects. > > > > In my conversation with some senior KP > astrologers, I have heard > that > > we should consider both sign-to-sign and western > aspects. One > majority > > opinion is to use the rule " Planets A and B are > conjoined if they > are > > in the same sign " . > > > > I am not clear about the aspects part of KP. Is > this a topic worthy > of > > greater focus in this group? Stalwarts, please > help. > > > > Regards, > > Rangarajan > > > > , " Kanakkumar > Bosmia " > > <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Same supplier as given by Sandy Crowther. http://vedicweb.com/c4.html http://www.vedicweb.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv? Screen=CTGY & Category_Code=VWBO manoramaoccult (direct to owner Shiv Chadha) Manorama Occult Publications Manorama Bhawan, 170B, Bank Enclave, Delhi, India 110092 Phone 91-11-22468683, 91-11-9810386902. AKri583 Reader I - Casting The Horoscope by Prof. K. S. Krishnamurty - $9.00 MAKri584 Reader II - Fundamental Principles of Astrology by Prof. K. S. Krishnamurty - $15.00 MAKri585 Reader III - Predictive Stellar astrology by Prof. K. S. Krishnamurty - $23.00 MAKri586 Reader IV - Marriage, Married Life & Children by Prof. K. S. Krishnamurty - $10.00 MAKri587 Reader V - Transits by Prof. K. S. Krishnamurty - $15.00 MAKri588 Reader VI - Horary Astrology by Prof. K. S. Krishnamurty - $15.00 MASub577 Astro Secrets and Krishnamurty Paddhati Part-I by K. Subramainiam - $15.00 MASub578 Astro Secrets and Krishnamurty Paddhati Part-II by K. Subramainiam - $15.00 MASub1074 Astro Secrets and Krishnamurty Paddhati Part-III by K. Subramaniam - $15.00 MAVar386 K. P. & Astrology Annual Issue 2002 - $8.00 MAVar1314 K. P. & Astrology Annual Issue 2003 - $8.00 MAVar1162 K. P. & Astrology Annual Issue 2004 - $8.00 MAVar1319 K. P. & Astrology Annual Issue 2005 - $8.00 © VedicWeb - Rev 10-feb-2005 Note: Prices include registered airmail postage. , " Sandy Crowther " <sandycrowther@a...> wrote: > > http://www.vedicweb.com/c55.html > > > All the Best, > Sandy Crowther > http://www.jupitersweb.com > > > > > Sunil Joshi [suniljoshi80] > Sunday, February 13, 2005 11:38 PM > > Re: Re: Aspects > > > > Could you please let me know where I can buy KP > Readers 1 to 6 from? > --- tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > > Dear Rangarajan, > > > > 1. In p 113 of KP Reader I, Guruji KSK says > > " The Western > > system of aspects must be studied and used so as to > > arrive at > > accurate predictions. There is no shame in including > > the Western > > system where they have advanced and are correct. " > > > > 2. However, Hindu System aspect and > > conjunction are common in > > example charts of KP Readers as some are mentioned > > below; > > > > KP Reader III, 1984, part 2 --- > > p 7 --- Mars aspecting Lagna and Venus conjunct > > Ketu; > > p 133 Mercury afflicted by Saturn; > > p 135 Jupiter aspecting Rahu; > > p 136 Mars conjunct Ketu; > > p 139 Conjunction of Sun & Rahu and Jupiter & Moon; > > p 142 Moon being afflicted by Saturn within relative > > postion of 22 ½ > > degree even though not in the same sign; > > p 171 Jupiter & Mars aspecting Moon; > > p 173 Saturn & Jupiter aspecting Rahu; > > p 205 Saturn aspecting Ketu and Moon, Mercury & Rahu > > conjunction; > > > > > > Reader V --- > > p 210 Mercury conjunct Rahu; > > p 233 Mars comjunct Ketu > > > > > > Reader VI ---p > > p 165 Rahu conjunct Venus; > > p 186 Rahu conjunct Venus; > > p 188 Moon & Mercuryaspecting Rahu; > > p 200 Moon conjunct Saturn; > > > > > > 3. Any example chart in KP Readers using Western > > aspect or > > conjunction is highly appreciated. > > > > Thanks and best regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > , " Rangarajan > > Krishnamoorthy " > > <ranga@m...> wrote: > > > > > > Kanak, > > > Isn't sign-to-sign aspect less common in KP? I > > have read that KSK > > does > > > consider sign-based aspects (as in Traditional > > system) in some > > places, > > > (e.g. to consider the influence of Saturn in the > > context of delay in > > > marriage, and the nodes being agents of planets > > they are conjoined > > > with in the same sign), but I thought this wasn't > > the norm. He > > > appeared to stress western aspects. > > > > > > In my conversation with some senior KP > > astrologers, I have heard > > that > > > we should consider both sign-to-sign and western > > aspects. One > > majority > > > opinion is to use the rule " Planets A and B are > > conjoined if they > > are > > > in the same sign " . > > > > > > I am not clear about the aspects part of KP. Is > > this a topic worthy > > of > > > greater focus in this group? Stalwarts, please > > help. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rangarajan > > > > > > , " Kanakkumar > > Bosmia " > > > <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Dear Shri Anant Raichur, Let me quote Guruji KSK's saying in p 149, KP Reader V, regarding 5th order of signification " VERY WEAK but those connected with a bhava are those planets conjoined with or aspected by the significators found out already " (in first 4 orders of importance). Best regards, tw , anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > It is worth discussion, if Members study KSK Books, and also the Examples > solved by HIM in the books or articles and find out what he really used. > > In order of Signification, aspects are the last and many do not take this into > consideration . > I rarely use aspects as one of the significators > good luck > > --- Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga@m...> wrote: > > > > > > > Kanak, > > Isn't sign-to-sign aspect less common in KP? I have read that KSK does > > consider sign-based aspects (as in Traditional system) in some places, > > (e.g. to consider the influence of Saturn in the context of delay in > > marriage, and the nodes being agents of planets they are conjoined > > with in the same sign), but I thought this wasn't the norm. He > > appeared to stress western aspects. > > > > In my conversation with some senior KP astrologers, I have heard that > > we should consider both sign-to-sign and western aspects. One majority > > opinion is to use the rule " Planets A and B are conjoined if they are > > in the same sign " . > > > > I am not clear about the aspects part of KP. Is this a topic worthy of > > greater focus in this group? Stalwarts, please help. > > > > Regards, > > Rangarajan > > > > , " Kanakkumar Bosmia " > > <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 You can order KP books online at http://www.astroclinica.com Sunil Joshi <suniljoshi80 wrote: Could you please let me know where I can buy KPReaders 1 to 6 from?--- tw853 wrote:> > Dear Rangarajan,> > 1. In p 113 of KP Reader I, Guruji KSK says> "The Western > system of aspects must be studied and used so as to> arrive at > accurate predictions. There is no shame in including> the Western > system where they have advanced and are correct."> > 2. However, Hindu System aspect and> conjunction are common in > example charts of KP Readers as some are mentioned> below; > > KP Reader III, 1984, part 2 ---> p 7 --- Mars aspecting Lagna and Venus conjunct> Ketu;> p 133 Mercury afflicted by Saturn;> p 135 Jupiter aspecting Rahu;> p 136 Mars conjunct Ketu;> p 139 Conjunction of Sun & Rahu and Jupiter & Moon;> p 142 Moon being afflicted by Saturn within relative> postion of 22 ½ > degree even though not in the same sign;> p 171 Jupiter & Mars aspecting Moon;> p 173 Saturn & Jupiter aspecting Rahu;> p 205 Saturn aspecting Ketu and Moon, Mercury & Rahu> conjunction;> > > Reader V ---> p 210 Mercury conjunct Rahu;> p 233 Mars comjunct Ketu> > > Reader VI ---p> p 165 Rahu conjunct Venus;> p 186 Rahu conjunct Venus;> p 188 Moon & Mercuryaspecting Rahu;> p 200 Moon conjunct Saturn;> > > 3. Any example chart in KP Readers using Western> aspect or > conjunction is highly appreciated.> > Thanks and best regards,> > tw> > > , "Rangarajan> Krishnamoorthy" > wrote:> > > > Kanak,> > Isn't sign-to-sign aspect less common in KP? I> have read that KSK > does> > consider sign-based aspects (as in Traditional> system) in some > places,> > (e.g. to consider the influence of Saturn in the> context of delay in> > marriage, and the nodes being agents of planets> they are conjoined> > with in the same sign), but I thought this wasn't> the norm. He> > appeared to stress western aspects.> > > > In my conversation with some senior KP> astrologers, I have heard > that> > we should consider both sign-to-sign and western> aspects. One > majority> > opinion is to use the rule "Planets A and B are> conjoined if they > are> > in the same sign".> > > > I am not clear about the aspects part of KP. Is> this a topic worthy > of> > greater focus in this group? Stalwarts, please> help.> > > > Regards,> > Rangarajan> > > > , "Kanakkumar> Bosmia"> > wrote:> > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2005 Report Share Posted February 14, 2005 Other on-line suppliers in US --- http://www.astroamerica.com http://www.natarajbooks.com , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > Same supplier as given by Sandy Crowther. > > http://vedicweb.com/c4.html > > http://www.vedicweb.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv? > Screen=CTGY & Category_Code=VWBO > > manoramaoccult@h... (direct to owner Shiv Chadha) > > Manorama Occult Publications > Manorama Bhawan, 170B, Bank Enclave, Delhi, India 110092 > Phone 91-11-22468683, 91-11-9810386902. > > > AKri583 Reader I - Casting The Horoscope by Prof. K. S. > Krishnamurty - $9.00 > > MAKri584 Reader II - Fundamental Principles of Astrology by Prof. K. > S. Krishnamurty - $15.00 > > MAKri585 Reader III - Predictive Stellar astrology by Prof. K. S. > Krishnamurty - $23.00 > > MAKri586 Reader IV - Marriage, Married Life & Children by Prof. K. S. > Krishnamurty - $10.00 > > MAKri587 Reader V - Transits by Prof. K. S. Krishnamurty - $15.00 > > MAKri588 Reader VI - Horary Astrology by Prof. K. S. Krishnamurty - > $15.00 > > MASub577 Astro Secrets and Krishnamurty Paddhati Part-I by K. > Subramainiam - $15.00 > > MASub578 Astro Secrets and Krishnamurty Paddhati Part-II by K. > Subramainiam - $15.00 > > MASub1074 Astro Secrets and Krishnamurty Paddhati Part-III by K. > Subramaniam - $15.00 > > > MAVar386 K. P. & Astrology Annual Issue 2002 - $8.00 > > MAVar1314 K. P. & Astrology Annual Issue 2003 - $8.00 > > MAVar1162 K. P. & Astrology Annual Issue 2004 - $8.00 > > MAVar1319 K. P. & Astrology Annual Issue 2005 - $8.00 > © VedicWeb - Rev 10-feb-2005 > > Note: Prices include registered airmail postage. > > > , " Sandy Crowther " > <sandycrowther@a...> wrote: > > > > http://www.vedicweb.com/c55.html > > > > > > All the Best, > > Sandy Crowther > > http://www.jupitersweb.com > > > > > > > > > > Sunil Joshi [suniljoshi80] > > Sunday, February 13, 2005 11:38 PM > > > > Re: Re: Aspects > > > > > > > > Could you please let me know where I can buy KP > > Readers 1 to 6 from? > > --- tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rangarajan, > > > > > > 1. In p 113 of KP Reader I, Guruji KSK says > > > " The Western > > > system of aspects must be studied and used so as to > > > arrive at > > > accurate predictions. There is no shame in including > > > the Western > > > system where they have advanced and are correct. " > > > > > > 2. However, Hindu System aspect and > > > conjunction are common in > > > example charts of KP Readers as some are mentioned > > > below; > > > > > > KP Reader III, 1984, part 2 --- > > > p 7 --- Mars aspecting Lagna and Venus conjunct > > > Ketu; > > > p 133 Mercury afflicted by Saturn; > > > p 135 Jupiter aspecting Rahu; > > > p 136 Mars conjunct Ketu; > > > p 139 Conjunction of Sun & Rahu and Jupiter & Moon; > > > p 142 Moon being afflicted by Saturn within relative > > > postion of 22 ½ > > > degree even though not in the same sign; > > > p 171 Jupiter & Mars aspecting Moon; > > > p 173 Saturn & Jupiter aspecting Rahu; > > > p 205 Saturn aspecting Ketu and Moon, Mercury & Rahu > > > conjunction; > > > > > > > > > Reader V --- > > > p 210 Mercury conjunct Rahu; > > > p 233 Mars comjunct Ketu > > > > > > > > > Reader VI ---p > > > p 165 Rahu conjunct Venus; > > > p 186 Rahu conjunct Venus; > > > p 188 Moon & Mercuryaspecting Rahu; > > > p 200 Moon conjunct Saturn; > > > > > > > > > 3. Any example chart in KP Readers using Western > > > aspect or > > > conjunction is highly appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks and best regards, > > > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > , " Rangarajan > > > Krishnamoorthy " > > > <ranga@m...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Kanak, > > > > Isn't sign-to-sign aspect less common in KP? I > > > have read that KSK > > > does > > > > consider sign-based aspects (as in Traditional > > > system) in some > > > places, > > > > (e.g. to consider the influence of Saturn in the > > > context of delay in > > > > marriage, and the nodes being agents of planets > > > they are conjoined > > > > with in the same sign), but I thought this wasn't > > > the norm. He > > > > appeared to stress western aspects. > > > > > > > > In my conversation with some senior KP > > > astrologers, I have heard > > > that > > > > we should consider both sign-to-sign and western > > > aspects. One > > > majority > > > > opinion is to use the rule " Planets A and B are > > > conjoined if they > > > are > > > > in the same sign " . > > > > > > > > I am not clear about the aspects part of KP. Is > > > this a topic worthy > > > of > > > > greater focus in this group? Stalwarts, please > > > help. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rangarajan > > > > > > > > , " Kanakkumar > > > Bosmia " > > > > <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 Dear Friends, On the subjects of aspects and conjunctions,I was taught that they are 5th and6th items for consideration.The orderof importance being 1-Planets in star of occupant 2 Occupants 3 Planets in star of cuspal lords/sign lords 4 Cuspal/sign lords. 5 Conjunctions 6 Aspects. For items 5/6 the traditional rules apply, orbs of influence etc.asif the affected planets were in the same rasi though on ocassions be in different cusps. In sofar as Rahu/ Ketu I was taught only conjunctions should be considered and that to 1or2deg separation. 5th/7th/9thaspects donot find place for Rahu/Ketu May I request clarification from experienced KP astrologers. Thanks, Satish -- In , " tw853 " <tw853> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Anant Raichur, > > Let me quote Guruji KSK's saying in p 149, KP Reader V, regarding 5th > order of signification " VERY WEAK but those connected with a bhava > are those planets conjoined with or aspected by the significators > found out already " (in first 4 orders of importance). > > Best regards, > > tw > > > , anant raichur <anant_1608> > wrote: > > It is worth discussion, if Members study KSK Books, and also the > Examples > > solved by HIM in the books or articles and find out what he really > used. > > > > In order of Signification, aspects are the last and many do not > take this into > > consideration . > > I rarely use aspects as one of the significators > > good luck > > > > --- Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga@m...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Kanak, > > > Isn't sign-to-sign aspect less common in KP? I have read that KSK > does > > > consider sign-based aspects (as in Traditional system) in some > places, > > > (e.g. to consider the influence of Saturn in the context of delay > in > > > marriage, and the nodes being agents of planets they are conjoined > > > with in the same sign), but I thought this wasn't the norm. He > > > appeared to stress western aspects. > > > > > > In my conversation with some senior KP astrologers, I have heard > that > > > we should consider both sign-to-sign and western aspects. One > majority > > > opinion is to use the rule " Planets A and B are conjoined if they > are > > > in the same sign " . > > > > > > I am not clear about the aspects part of KP. Is this a topic > worthy of > > > greater focus in this group? Stalwarts, please help. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rangarajan > > > > > > , " Kanakkumar Bosmia " > > > <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2005 Report Share Posted February 15, 2005 DEAR TW853 I AGREE. DISCUSSION IS WETHER ONE TAKES THE WESTERN/ OR HINDU ASPECTS, FOR FIND THIESE 5TH ORDER SIGNIFICATORS. MY SW TAKES THIS RULE, BUT TAKES HINDU ASPECTS. --- tw853 <tw853 wrote: > > > > > Dear Shri Anant Raichur, > > Let me quote Guruji KSK's saying in p 149, KP Reader V, regarding 5th > order of signification " VERY WEAK but those connected with a bhava > are those planets conjoined with or aspected by the significators > found out already " (in first 4 orders of importance). > > Best regards, > > tw > > > , anant raichur <anant_1608> > wrote: > > It is worth discussion, if Members study KSK Books, and also the > Examples > > solved by HIM in the books or articles and find out what he really > used. > > > > In order of Signification, aspects are the last and many do not > take this into > > consideration . > > I rarely use aspects as one of the significators > > good luck > > > > --- Rangarajan Krishnamoorthy <ranga@m...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Kanak, > > > Isn't sign-to-sign aspect less common in KP? I have read that KSK > does > > > consider sign-based aspects (as in Traditional system) in some > places, > > > (e.g. to consider the influence of Saturn in the context of delay > in > > > marriage, and the nodes being agents of planets they are conjoined > > > with in the same sign), but I thought this wasn't the norm. He > > > appeared to stress western aspects. > > > > > > In my conversation with some senior KP astrologers, I have heard > that > > > we should consider both sign-to-sign and western aspects. One > majority > > > opinion is to use the rule " Planets A and B are conjoined if they > are > > > in the same sign " . > > > > > > I am not clear about the aspects part of KP. Is this a topic > worthy of > > > greater focus in this group? Stalwarts, please help. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rangarajan > > > > > > , " Kanakkumar Bosmia " > > > <kanbosastro@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 Hindu aspects applied in KP but Guruji KSK encouraged Western aspects for their accuracy. Shri KP Kuppu Ganapathi has applied Western aspects. , " hansraj_vyas " <hansraj_vyas wrote: > > Learned members may advise as to which system of aspects viz.Hindu > system- rashi to rashi or Western system of exact angular distance, to > be followed in KP system ? Hansraj. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2006 Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 Although KSK has advised using Western Aspects, with ords, in all the examples in the books, it is seen, that Indian Aspects have been used. In KP the aspect as a significator is the least important. In the 4 Step Theory, based on KP the Indian Aspects are used, but with an orb of 3.333 degrees only. And this is taken as an important significator. Choice upto you. Some one may attempt to analyse this on say 50 charts,(with known results), and see which method gives more consistant results. good luckhansraj_vyas <hansraj_vyas wrote: Learned members may advise as to which system of aspects viz.Hindu system- rashi to rashi or Western system of exact angular distance, to be followed in KP system ? Hansraj. Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Dear all, In my opinion Hindu aspect is usefull and i allways use Hindu aspect.without orb. But please note that aspected is usefull only in analysis of NODE. we have to check Node and apsecting planet to node bcoz node give first result of aspecting planet. and this is the use of ASpect in KP.in my opinion. regards kanakRaichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Although KSK has advised using Western Aspects, with ords, in all the examples in the books, it is seen, that Indian Aspects have been used. In KP the aspect as a significator is the least important. In the 4 Step Theory, based on KP the Indian Aspects are used, but with an orb of 3.333 degrees only. And this is taken as an important significator. Choice upto you. Some one may attempt to analyse this on say 50 charts,(with known results), and see which method gives more consistant results. good luckhansraj_vyas <hansraj_vyas > wrote: Learned members may advise as to which system of aspects viz.Hindu system- rashi to rashi or Western system of exact angular distance, to be followed in KP system ? Hansraj. Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2006 Report Share Posted September 3, 2006 Dear Kanak, Thanks for the information. Hansraj. --- Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: > Dear all, > In my opinion Hindu aspect is usefull and i > allways use Hindu aspect.without orb. > > But please note that aspected is usefull only in > analysis of NODE. we have to check Node and > apsecting planet to node bcoz node give first result > of aspecting planet. and this is the use of ASpect > in KP.in my opinion. > > regards > kanak > > Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: > Although KSK has advised using Western > Aspects, with ords, in all the examples in the > books, it is seen, that Indian Aspects have been > used. In KP the aspect as a significator is the > least important. > > In the 4 Step Theory, based on KP the Indian > Aspects are used, but with an orb of 3.333 degrees > only. And this is taken as an important > significator. > > Choice upto you. > > Some one may attempt to analyse this on say 50 > charts,(with known results), and see which method > gives more consistant results. > > good luck > > hansraj_vyas <hansraj_vyas wrote: > Learned members may advise as to which system > of aspects viz.Hindu > system- rashi to rashi or Western system of exact > angular distance, to > be followed in KP system ? Hansraj. > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone > Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or > less. > > > > > >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me > Crying << > > > > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check > it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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